Topic: Potential Scammer (Read 2477 times)

Botany, if you think the issue is resolved, change the thread title. It gives a misleading impression.

Now those accounts are suspicious good luck to you.

He gave it to me. What are you saying? He should have sold it like others to a scammer?

Look, we know each other, not  in real life, but we have been helping each other for a good time. This linked transactions have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH this. As you can see, it happened EVEN AFTER I got my account.

I am not a scammer. I have a good reputation outside the forum. And that applies to ndnhc too.
All the trust feedback I currently have is earned by me myself..
This was not a secret or anything. I know people who were aware of it, like marco and maybe s1lverbox.

Your kind of behavior is actually unethical. If people start selling accounts for money, soon, there will be nothing called trusted.

What I proved is that ndhc, me or anyone in that list is NOT related to the scammer.
I gave solid proof that his proof is wrong.

I can prove with similar accuracy that everyone who participated in the giveaway are alts of one person. His method IS wrong. Completely.

Check the first post on this page if you have any doubts on it.


You have to understand. When marco asked, he chose to be honest about it. He could simply have lied or just not replied to it. Why did he tell the truth? because there is nothing bad he did.



It is very difficult to prove anything between us. So, I just stepped out of it. It is not my responsibility to choose whether to disclose something that happened months ago, and which is irrevalent (you might think it is, but it is not).

it is difficult to explain. Check this one:

Instead of coming out with the truth right away Watoshi tries to find other reasons besides simply saying that ndhc owned the account first. Very suspicious if you ask me.

Careful with the confessions.
Having alt accounts is considered okay, transferring accounts is frowned upon by some members.

Yeah, I had it way back.
The wallet problem is not exactly because of that. It is because of CLAM.

I gave it to magicbeans, since I knew him, and he isn't a scammer. I don't have any use with it, and I don't want to sell to some scammer.

ndnhc: Were you once in control of Watoshi's account?

PROOF: (my around 5th time of posting this) in max detail.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9935220

Why?
1st page of giveaway:



Rest of the cases are difficult, to prove. I can't give access of my email to anyone to prove anything. The case is solved, since none of the people in this new list are scammers. Life goes on.









Most mistaken assumption of OP:
The addresses posted by anyone belongs to the same person.

I scam someone and use his address, he gets the blame?
I participate in the giveaway, and posts the deposit address which is linked to almost all other deposit address of the site? What, I am 1 million people at once?
I post someone else's address, saying this address is eligible for promotion. The address suddenly becomes my address?
I use a site's address to get a loan, the site reuses the address later?

I don't think you get the idea properly.

Accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9935220

The only people who understand what is happening right now is me and botany.


Non one else is a scammer except for jf guy.

all negative trust was added for being alt of jfguy, WHICH IS PROVED FALSE.

It is difficult to prove the wallet transaction for clam between me and ndhc, because it was done outside and i refuse access to my emaill to anyone.

btcupdown never scammed anyone. it is inactive now. no one lost money. trust feedback was given for being the alt, whcih was disproved, not for scamming anyone.

OP was right except for Watoshi. Good job, but not everything was correct.

This is one major problem with participating in 'giveaways' by gambling sites. They provide very little benefit to the user (you) but expose you to risks similar to this (being linked to scammers in the future).

I would say that it is somewhat suspicious that you both deposited bitcoin to the site at close enough to the same time that they combined balances in all three addresses to send a tx to another of their addresses, I wouldn't say it is enough evidence to say that you are both one and the same. Maybe satoshicircle can advise if there is IP evidence linking the two of you together.

I absolutely don't know who he is.

I happened to be the first person to use the site and got the NO FEE promotion with my address which is mentiones against btcupdown.com. which is actually MINE.
The promotion is I DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEE, IN THE GAME, IF I USE THAT ADDRESS TO SEND.
SOURCE ADDRESS IS USED TO IDENTIFY THE PLAYER.

In the accusation:
the blockchain addresses are right.

Most of the address posted against a user are WRONG.
Most are either mine or some other external site's.

Plz understand that the proof is for the other accusation he made.

Quoting it here:

Watoshi proved that no one is related to Jf person, who is a scammer.




Tomatocage has removed the negative trust.
Thanks to Watoshi-Dibomuto

Read the posts closely of watoshi and btcupdown in the game thread....don't know if they're the same person but they DEF at least know each other in real life...

I am pretty sure you are wrong about this. I don't see anything about satoshicircle in any of the first three threads referenced. Plus one of the referenced posts was from a loan request witch is unlikely going to be made to a website address

It is no use. Botany is playing like a game.

He accused everyone of being a scammers alt. I proved him wrong. He just unlocked this one, then. If you solve this one, he will probably make another accusation.

Now there is no issue.There are no scammers in the list. So no need to worry. I am waiting for Tomatocage to come back online and remove these trusts.

Because your address all connected to the botany's accusation.

If something connected then you're also connected to other one.
Blockchain is chaining many address till the end

maybe you should prove that you're right...just like other suspect / victim

HOW THE HELL DID I COME ON THIS LIST?    I am an alt? Of a fairly trusted guy? That is bad?? But it should be good?
I hate this forum. I am going to quit

Proved 4 wrong.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9286551


It is my address. I won a no fees promotion with that address. OP is stupid. Doesn't read anything in any thread.

Watoshi Investigation.

Facts:

STEP 2) All Players (FREE Bitcoins)

Reply to this post with "Your Personal Deposit Address" provided in the game.
After we verify it's a legit gaming address, within the next 24 hours (most likely sooner). We'll fund your account with 250,000 FREE


Result:
Theses addresses did not belong to either Jefe541 or ndnhc. It was of satoshicircle

Conclusion:
Hence I have nothing to do with jefe or anyone.

Note: the linked transaction was made, because it belonged to satoshicircle.

Alt of an established scammer.
Refer https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beware-user-jefe541-wont-respond-and-may-be-scamming-525975

Has he scammed or are you profiling him as a scammer?

You are crazy.
I know watoshi-dimobuto. I don't know any of the rest.

How can I be 5 active persons.

I was slightly off. He is not a potential scammer; he is a scammer.
A little bit of digging revealed this. Will post additional details.

Good work, you are right to report this. Something similar happened here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beware-of-raveldonisamtseudo-890205
In that case one of the accounts took a 0.3 BTC loan and stop using the account.

In my opinion, running a ponzi scheme, using an alt as an escrow, leaving false feedback, etc indicate that this person is likely to scam given an opportunity. Flagging it for those in the default trust list to take a view.

Of course, if there is any flaw in my logic/views, I am prepared for a deluge of criticism. 

ACCUSATION
1) btcmaze ran a failed ponzi here. The scheme was closed under the threat of negative feedback. No negative feedback was given since nobody invested / lost money in the scheme
2) ndhnc acted as the escrow for the ponzi scheme

Since both accounts are controlled by the same person and posts may be deleted, I am quoting the full conversation here.




3) Based on this, btcmaze has left positive feedback to ndnhc for acting as an escrow. I also notice that Watoshi-Dimobuto has left positive feedback with the comments "Helped me. Straight and honest.".

4) Another post, where you have alts talking to each other and confirming problems can be found here.

The following are alts of the same person

ndnhc: BTC Address 1At8KjNtUyAhWdUuNrZyUsCVQCFqcuY68m used here
Watoshi-Dimobuto: BTC Address 13UytrmhA4FBuELZnXp12TXjj4Y19Hvb57 used here
btcmaze: BTC Address 15mrEs9vmsgGfB1G8PxcVCZS7mwuMBqHam used here
btcupdown.com: BTC Address 13cb4Kr96TXiw59FNAN8vvkK63R38KVGCi used here
spgjack: BTC Address 1nJRJqQUCppsLkyyoHtDwx2LJiF34WfHb used here

The first 3 addresses are linked together in this transaction
https://blockchain.info/tx/31e6d850719f3c05f1dc4985cfba36ee92bc5c6e1d6aebf15205d70287ccd189

Fourth address is linked in https://blockchain.info/tx/c7d2265189ef186eafffb3b3926fa046f1ce3af671e89f7be5939af003c851e2
Fifth address is linked in https://blockchain.info/tx/f6bf6e65ef7dd13c89a191a0ce3461fb2de9df1c1cdf0aaacdf7501a1224308c