Topic: Pragmatic Play slots or Stake never surprises me for the bad (Read 291 times)

This provides awareness for everybody here that we shouldn't trust this kind of scheme. We should be vigilant in playing at casino slots, not all of their game play will give you benefit but it's literally draining all the funds that you have. If you spend huge amount without winning in return, then it's about time that you'll realize eventually the reason why this happens. Expecting too much is painful, so let's learn from the experiences of other people same on what you have said.

I just had my best experience ever playing some Pragmatic slots on Stake...  I hit 10 free bonus spins on a $0.20 spin, then got 5 more free bonus spins on the first free spin...  All in all it was a couple hundred dollar win on a $0.20 spin.  Likely my best gambling win ever on a % basis.  I got a couple other good wins buying bonus spins as well.  Sometimes the luck falls your way and sometimes it doesn't.  As long as you felt some excitement, you can't be too upset when playing a game.

We already feels what we get from buy bonus rounds. Some of us get their luck but the other people lost their money and feels wasting their money. If you thinks that you can accept the chance of losing your money, you can still buy bonus and see your luck. That is also happens to the other slot provider so you should think twice before you decide to buy bonus.

When we get the experience, we will rant and maybe there will be a wanting to buy bonus more to recover our losses. But that will not works as we want because playing slot game whether we buy bonus or using normal spins, we really need luck to win. So we should only use the money we can afford to lose.

If you thinks like that and decide not to buy bonus anymore, that will be good for you as you will know how much money you can use to playing slot game. You don't have to spends too much money for allocating your gambling activity because you can control your money properly. Indeed, buy bonus really tempting us to try to wins much money but we must remember that we must have luck to win big money. So rather than spends too much money just to buy bonus, it is better we use normal spins to playing gambling. Besides that, we don't chase the win and only want to spends our spare time from gambling besides using the other activities.

AFAIK Stake even offer an enhance RTP of some pragmatic play slot games which is only exclusive to their casino. Been playing pragmatic from different casino but still same sucks result.

I think the problem is the bad slot game choice probably the cold one that’s why it’s rare to give a win even with a couple spins. You should try to play hot slot or low to medium volatility pragmatic slot games if you want to avoid a series of bust bonus buy.

PP seems like has a lot of extreme volatility slot games tho.

Well, I wouldn't say that I trust any casino 100%, we should learn how these things work and anything that is outside our satisfaction and that has doubt should be avoided, I will always say it is not by force, especially if you believe there's so kind of cheating, you can choose another game.

You may also table this with the support, after all, you have the right to complain about some things, it might help. Could you believe that I complained about huge withdrawal fees with a broker a while ago, I was so bitter with them. They actually reduced it significantly even though I thought it couldn't be possible to do for a client.

He can attach screenshots so we know he has won for real big amounts as a bare minimum. Usually people who win big are the first ones to want to boast about their winnings, anyway still a great thing to happen that someone wins big in Pragmatic slots still. I have opted to self exclude myself from the platform giving me such brutal type of loses that I have never experienced in another platform/casino so I am setting myself free to not experience anymore such things in my life.
I hope everyone wins big but one thing is sure the slots behavior is not the same anymore.

Well Id stop using buy bonus anymore that because I noticed its not making me win, not complaining but this is happened many times. As much those bonus buy are attractive it still rendered me hopeless. What a luck though.

Seeing some able to get some good wins is quite envious. Maybe its not yet my time to win some good multipliers.

And that is the advantage of buy bonus, I mean you don't need to go and struggle on playing regular games to get that bonus round. So many us of have tried buy bonus to see how their luck goes. But to see dead spins? that is going to be very hurtful not just in pragmatic, but all other game slots provider as well.

And if this happens to me? definitely I will have to rant it as well. Although the worst I get using this feature could be just 50% returns from buying that bonus round. So still good and then go and play regular, but having 0 or dead spins, it's going to be frustrating.

We can win with the normal situation without using buy bonus feature because I think some of members here can get it. But they are luckier than most gamblers here so we can not compare them to us.

We can use buy bonus and allocate some money to buy. But we don't have to buy bonus over and over until we spend all of our money. That will be waste for us because we use all of the allocation money for playing gambling and hopes we can win in that day. We have the other days to playing gambling so we can get our luck in the right time.

Yes. It is very strange because this very same provider that is doing such nasty things now is the same that a few years ago used to give the max wins in the mentioned slots by you every 2-3 weeks or 1 month as a maximum. This definitely shows that not only Pragmatic but also other slot providers can give the option to partners (casinos) to mess around and change the RTP (please anyone prove me wrong with valid proofs if you can, of course you cannot) to their liking and all gamblers to suffer the same fate as me.

I guess thats the case. In my perspective on gambling its always based on luck so even with bonus feature even you got a lot of bonuses chances, if youre not lucky then it will still be the same result. I couldnt say we waste, were just attracted to it and since we bet money on that bonus feature thing we though we could win too. Well its a risk anyway.

I don't think I have ever seen a pragmatic bonus pay 0x. I think you get a minimum $.60 when you spin into or buy a bonus on $.20. Least that's what I see when I buy Fruit Party, Sweet Bonanza, Starlight Princess, and many others. Even when in the bonus there is usually some sort of minimum hit for 10-20 cents at worst. Regardless I don't suppose hitting nothing or close to nothing makes you feel good.

I don't think you're only going to encounter that on stake. I've seen bonus buys pay 5-10x on nearly every site I have visited. 1 in every 50 pays huge  (not enough to get you even if you bought 50 buys in a row), and most pay 50x or lower mixed with a couple $2-5 of profit. Buying bonuses are a sure way to drain your money. Spinning isn't much better as sometimes it takes 400-500 spins to get in the bonus.

Try a different provider or try the originals. Just mix it up.

So that still depends on how our luck in that games. No matter how many times we buy bonus feature, if we don't have luck, we will not wins anything. We only waste our money by buy bonus because we expect that we can wins much money.

The reality that happen is many people still thinks that they can wins huge money like other people's. If they can thinks furthermore, they will see that's just gives them more risks because they can lose their money fast. They will see that is unfair situation for them but they don't see that is because they don't have luck.

On the contrary, I have heard so much on other gamblers winning huge in Pragmatic that's why I have been playing this games for a week or two if I'm not mistaken. I only try buy bonus once, but it was not a very big win.

I understand that they can set the RTP to their wanting, but still as what the OP experience, there could be something at Stake that we can't explain, or at least we have, but we don't want to point fingers as we don't have any proved like what the Op says. But I still might want to continue to play and see if I'm one of those lucky guys or s**t really happens on Pragmatic slots.

Pragmatic Play slots is really hit the market here in Indonesia but some of my friend already left this slot provider like couple month ago because simply this provider didnt really give win like it used to, my friend now move to pg gaming to play slot game.

I know that bonus is not always gonna win but since pragmatic is very popular maybe they tweak little bit because too popular

This can be considered as wrong assumption because bonus round in slots game is not a thing that should give something so it is possible to get 0x on bonus round because the meaning of bonus round (at least for me) is that it is a round where I play with extra features but it does not give any guarantee of winning.
They will not change it but we as players are free to choose which slot games to play, because if you dont know, there are some games where there is a guarantee like 10x-20x from the basebet during the bonus round.
If you think that many gamblers are not playing slots anymore, it is also wrong because the number of slots players is increasing from time to time until now.
It is all about preferences on what games to play, every game has its own risk and possibility so as players we should be ready for all the possible results.

I agree. I don't know why they do this but they could at least give something if it's a bonus round. It's called a bonus for a reason and having a 0x win is so frustrating for every gambler out there.
I've experienced this a lot of times in different slot games and that includes slot providers like Red Tiger, PG Soft, and more. They should change this because it's not a fun thing when you are at least expecting a low return or just an ROI of the buy bonus amount but having 0x is unacceptable. This is why I believe many gamblers are not playing slots anymore and just go to sports or other live gambling games. They realize there's no such thing as RTP anymore with those slot providers. They keep on tweaking it for their own profit but I think they went overboard.

I am not get 0x when buying bonus but still, that money is lower than the cost to buy bonus. So I am still lose in the end.

It is very difficult to wins rely on buy bonus because we must have luck to win or even for break even. Only those lucky gamblers who can win much money that will celebrate their winning. But that is the risk that we must accept.

We can try in other days and hopefully, we can have luck so we can win more than the cost of buy bonus.

Yes there are many games that not only based on lucky but on statistics and other expertise.
Likewise blackjack or poker (talking on casino games). If you have a good basis on math you can overperform a newbie player (more you play, better the result).
Of course If you count sportbetting and so on there is no lucky but just experience and ability.

If someone doesn't like the "luck" behind casino game just don't play. This has been my decision since I play just a couple of penny yearly on these games.

It's really frustrating hitting those 0x returns consecutively, especially in the bonus rounds. I haven't played on Stake for a while. But recently, I've gotten hooked on gambling again, though I mostly play on local online casino platforms. I often play slots with a buy feature, and my favorites are Gate of Olympus and Sweet Bonanza by Pragmatic Play. I'm not familiar with the game you played. Yes, sometimes you lose, sometimes you win. High risk, high reward, as they say. It feels like a tough gamble at times. Sometimes, it’s just the thrill that keeps us coming back despite the odds. It’s important to approach these games with caution and manage expectations.

Are there any other gambling games that aren't luck based? You talk as if there are some casino games that are not based on luck, I don't think there is any, correct me if I  wrong, if anyone doesn't like luck based games they shouldn't be gambling at all.

I don't use stake so much because the luck chances keeps getting lower and lower so I stop using the platform, but what can we do about it? Any online casino can turn this cold all of a sudden and you will just keep losing money, it is what it is.

All OP can do is to switch online casino and abandon stake platform, it is not a crime to try other new or old casino.

It is possible to have a streak of bad-luck or good-luck while playing any casino games, this does not mean the game has a low or high RTP respectively, it just means you ran into some luck or ran out of it. RTP is factored in if you are playing for a long period of time, no one can play for infinity, but the longer you play, the more RTP affects your profits and losses.

Is this a situation you run into often while playing on Stake or happened just this time?

- Jay -

this is one of the main reason I dont like lucky based games. everything impossible could always happens (of course the negative...).
I am not happy for that strange outcomes... Defintely I would avoid to spent more time with their games. There is nothing that can be done to change your fate so please just move on, try to find the new game for you.

First, it doesn't only happen on Stake.com, I've experienced the same thing as 0x that you experienced on other sites. Besides, winning or not should depend on your luck. So, never blame the site or anything, because you will get what you should get from your luck. For me, if I get results like this, I think that in the near future I will get a big win hahaha.

Luckily, I have never experienced getting 0x on bonus spin purchases on the site.
I think this must also happen to other casinos, not just Stake. Because back to the basics of slot games, it's just "luck".
We all have our own experiences and when we are unlucky, we will definitely get the same results at any casino and even at different providers.

Thanks for the information @OP, this can help other people to not play Pragmatic Play slots on Stake, remember I'm not saying to avoid Stake at all cost.

Yeah the RTP rate are vary from one to another casino, I think the providers offer a vary RTP rate like 90%-97%, then it's back to the casino which RTP rate they will choose to be in their casino.

I don't think it's difficult, just read the description.

Yeah, now Im aware of how these bonuses work. Maybe better to play a normal one and dont expect anything on the bonus one. On slots there are some bonus free spin when you hit some qualifiers maybe its better to have that one than buying a bonus one which is like a luring method for an extra spin. Didnt win haha literally yet on that front so I guess its just a gimmick.

Actually that is the problem in many casino that has pragmatic games that offers bonuses ,yeah there is no assurance of bringing it to win but as we knew casino is here to take our money but not to give meaning?there is a hidden target from that bonuses and expect this to be favoring the casino and not us so better be aware and ready .

Best to not look for bonuses but to try your luck even without that offer .

I have never had this experience with stake because I have yet to play slot there. But I appreciate you for balancing things up and clearing the air before someone else thinks it is an accusation you are making. As a lover of slots, Pragmatic Play are one of my best slot providers and I have enjoyed their slot on Livecasino. Thier RTP there is great. Honestly, this is my first time to read that RTPs differs from one gambling website to another. And I am thinking if this is an innocent oversight or the casino operators instructs the game providers to make their RTP a little different from other casinos.

Got the same case honestly on other casino sites. Bought a bonus feature but ending up lose when I used that. So in short I lose the funds used in buying that. It seems attractive when they put bonus but in reality its still down whether your lucky or not to win a good pot profit.

For a risk taker gambler they are aware of it but for some well the tendency is too see it as an unfair circumstances.

When you buy bonus feature, you should know that is not guarantee you can win big. The bonus feature have three or more options which you can buy so you need to adjust with the money you have. You don't have to buy bonus with a high cost because there is uncertainty if you can win big or lose big. I often buy bonus but I only buy with something that I can afford so when I lose the money, that is the money I can afford. I experienced buy bonus for two times but 0 result and only waste my money. But that will not be a problem for me because I can accept the lost. I think that also happen in other casinos but we must remember that slot game is based on the luck so when you lose, that means you are not lucky enough to win some money.

I've heard similar stories about Pragmatic Play's RTP, especially in Stake, and it sounds frustrating when the purchase bonus option isn't offered even more so when it doubles to 0x in this case, the RTP at Being different can be a difficult pill to swallow. Especially when it feels inconsistent with many casinos. I think it's helpful to share these activities because it gives a better understanding of what players can achieve with certain designers and bonuses. Personally, I've noticed that RTP can vary greatly from platform to platform and it is often difficult to know why this is so. Has anyone experienced a similar opportunity with Pragmatic or another provider? It would be good to know if this is widespread or if it can change depending on other factors such as the structure of the casino operator.

Well I know that I have said several times that the Pragmatic Play provider in the Stake casino is the worse scam every you will encounter, I have not seen the happenings in that casino in any other casino, this is absolutely not a scam accusation, just sharing my happenings which never seem to happen in another casino so for me the RTP of Pragmatic Play is something that the casino operators can deal with, I know that 0x happens a lot in their buy bonus feature lately in Pragmatic Play but two times in a row 0x in the buy bonus of x100 cost is something horribly new for me  .

No one fault except mine who keeps playing although I don't give a damn as it was the weekly bonus, yet I wanted to share so people know what to expect.