Tiny bump just to make sure people have a chance to read the OP and possibly some Q & A before it gets bumped right off the thread.
Next update will be when the website and buy/sell signaler is ready for users to signup for free.
Happy trading ahead.
Topic: [PRE-ANN] CRYPTOMANAGE.IO - AUTOMATED 'PLUG & TRADE' PLATFORM [EARLY 2019] (Read 159 times)
December 28, 2018, 02:04:09 PM
December 27, 2018, 08:10:16 AM
Hi Bitcointalk 
Long time reader/follower of the forum but first time poster now that we have a valuable product every trader could benefit from.
Quick Introduction - Who are we ? :
- We consist of two software engineers who first got involved in building automated logic for online poker that consists of Poker bots.
- Developed multiple limit and nolimit pokerbots for our own use and covered multiple poker sites from short handed cashgames to MTT's and SNG's from 2006 to 2017.
- Experience in manual/automated trading since 2005 on the regular boring stock and forex markets operating our own EA bots.
- In 2014 we started to dabble in crypto trading on the side with no commitment other than observing it as something interesting and possibly something to venture into over the coming years.
- Fast track to 2016. The poker industry started to really fizzle out and the crypto industry seemingly refuse to die which led us to make the decision to move our finances and focus from poker botting over to crypto trading.
- We shutdown all of our pokerbot farms and EA bots January 1st 2017 in order to focus all of our spare time on figuring out our own approach to Crypto trading with the eventual goal of having a structured profitable low volatility automated system in place.
- Our main goal with our approach to trading from day one were based around how we approached our poker bot logic and it involved being essentially a NIT trader which means we do not gamble for high gains just to inversely get destroyed on a sudden market direction change.
- We set out to build our testing and eventual trading logic primarily focusing on profitable low or zero volatility trading.
- This approach worked great in 2017 with the whole crypto market just peaking to new highs until the end of 2017 but making a profit in a bull market requires no genius and the true test would be during a bear run that soon followed.
- 2018, the year that really tested our approach during a full on bear run and we could not be more impressed with the outcome (results shown below).
- Our approach of minimizing losses and getting out with reasonable profit margins performed great throughout the year.
We are convinced that our trading logic is the safest trading logic anyone would find available to the public that removes the bad habits that various other publicly available services are too commonly guilty of.
We are certain that our approach will allow traders to benefit from real emotionless trading in the crypto market without dealing with up and down swings.
What do we offer ? :
- We are building a fully automated trading platform that will be completely 'Plug & Trade'.
- There will be no strategy selections for the end user. Too many platforms available today is simply offering a trading platform void of any provable trading results and then users need to scramble around wasting money on multiple losing trading strategies.
- Users would simply need to input their exchange api key and our trading engine will apply the same trading logic that we have been using for more than a year. Our testing and results includes a 2017 bull year and a 2018 bear year.
- Unlike other Signal Services or even Auto-trading Platforms available today we will be focusing entirely on coin/USDT and later coin/USD trading pairs on supported exchanges.
- We have no intention of trading coin/BTC pairs, trading coin/USD(T) pairs have much higher potential USD earning power.
We have gone through various scenarios since the start of 2017 and identified that focusing on coin/BTC pairs is a losing battle where you constantly have to focus and overcome 2 conditions to play out unrealistically well in order to show reliable profits.
example :
TraderA with $100 today can buy 5x more BTC than a traderB who stayed in coin/BTC trading since January 1st 2018 which mean for traderB to breakeven with traderA who holds $100 today traderB needed to earn atleast 500% in trading gains since January 1st 2018.
On the inverse traderA with $100 start January 1st 2018 who traded exclusively coin/USDT pairs and made a 500% return would have ended up today with 500% higher gains against TraderB in the same scenario.
coin/BTC pairs in trading is simply not the path of least resistance trading.
Why are we offering this ? :
- Initially we were simply taking action based on our preliminary indicators throughout the day as we worked our regular 9-5 job.
- As the months went by we realized we could turn our hobby into a practical product for everyday traders and by offering it at reasonable lifetime subscription for early subscribers we could end up using 100% of our time developing the Autotrading platform.
- We have noticed a vast majority of Index Funds (Tokens) popping up that we strongly felt where taking advantage of people who were throwing good money into a blackhole that were unlikely to ever show a return on investment.
- Bringing our product to market can provide us a generous trading balance boost for a quality service provided and give the same trading strategy access to users, a complete win-win scenario for us and the users.
All of the currently proposed marketed Index Funds(portfolio rebalancers etc.) simply cannot work or make profit longterm without a guarantee longterm bullrun which is more unlikely than finding a unicorn, markets can move sideways or down for years.
If you have no way to turn a profit during a sustained bear run then you have a broken/losing trading system.
At time of writing the following pairs will be supported on Binance.
ADA/USDT
BNB/USDT
BCHABC/USDT
BCHSV/USDT
BTC/USDT
EOS/USDT
ETC/USDT
ETH/USDT
ICX/USDT
IOTA/USDT
LTC/USDT
NEO/USDT
NULS/USDT
ONT/USDT
QTUM/USDT
TRX/USDT
VET/USDT
XLM/USDT
XRP/USDT
Trading Results - 2018-01 up to mid 2018-12
https://i.ibb.co/k46nSyZ/cryptoresults.png
Development Road map :
Phase 1 - January 2019
- Launch manual trading Signal Service for FREE to use until we hit 2000(hard-cap) Premium Paid Subscribers or 10000 FREE registered active users whichever comes first.
- This service will follow the exact logic for Buy/Sell that our automated platform will be using however user would have to act on our signals by trading manually.
- The only requirement in order to access the Signal Service for FREE is to register under our Binance Affiliate account and then provide us with your Binance account name so that we can verify it.
- This will allow us to earn some revenue for our service while keeping it FREE so that enough users can test our service at no cost to them.
- Our product will sell itself once users experience the trading results so we have no problem offering it for FREE for an extended period of time.
Phase 2 - Expected Between March 2019 to May 2019. We want to dedicate our full time to get it out even earlier but it would depend on how many Premium Subscribers we manage to signup before we can commit full time.
- Launch of Automated trading platform.
- The Automated trading platform will automate everything the Signal Service provided previously.
- Subscribers will be able to track their Trading performance in one dashboard.
- Our approach is to remove any confusing customization thus making it 'Plug & Trade' by providing subscribers the neccessary trading performance information and none of the fluff.
Phase 3 (continuous) - Adding additional exchanges depending on our strategy testing results.
List of exchanges we plan to support.
Binance - First exchange supported from the start. Among the largest and all of our yearly research and trading to this point have been done on Binance.
HitBTC - 0% fee on market makers + 0.01% rebate on each trade. Excellent value for money when utilized with our trading strategies and market maker trading.
BitForex - 0% fee on market makers or 0.05% fee on market takers. Coins targetted on this exchange would not be penalized as much with trading fees using either market maker or market taker .
BitMart - 0.05% fee.
KuCoin - 0.10% fee.
PolonieX - 0.10% fee.
BiBox - 0.10% fee.
BitFinex - 0.10% fee.
Early subscribers *Lifetime license :
Milestone 1 - $200 1 to 400
Milestone 2 - $250 - 401 to 800
Milestone 3 - $300 - 801 to 1200
Milestone 4 - $350 - 1201 to 1600
Milestone 5 - $400 - 1601 to 2000
*Lifetime license include the following at no extra cost, ever. :
Autotrading Platform Access, Additional Exchanges Access and any other features or services we may add to cryptomanage in the future.
Different milestones depend on when a user finalize their Premium Subscription payment. Members who subscribe early will reap the benefit of a big discount.
Premium Subscribers allow us to work on this project full time by financing us via subscription and in return we will announce additional FREE perks as we progress through development.
Questions & Answers :
Question
Why do you offer the manual Signal Service for FREE ?
Answer
We are new on this forum and the marketplace and we believe trust should be earned and not forced upon users by forcing them to pay for a product they are not sure about.
We believe strongly enough in our service so by offering it for free we are confident users will see the performance and end up subscribing for a Premium account.
Keep in mind we will be earning a little bit of commission through the Binance affiliate account system on the FREE Signal Service so we are definitely not entirely a charity service.
Question
What will happen to my FREE account if I do not trade on the referal Binance account ?
Answer
Your FREE Signal account will be deactivated if no trading commission is generated over a running count of 10 trade signals(we might revise this number up or down). We might revise this number but this is to protect ourself from not having users signup and simply not using their referal account.
Question
What will happen to the FREE Signal Service once you reach 2000 Premium subscribers ?
Answer
Our goal from the start during the manual Signal Service is to reach 2000 Premium Subscribers so once we reach this number all FREE accounts will be deactivated. We will work with our Premium Subscribers during the development phase of the final Automated Trading Platform.
Question
When you finish the Automated Trading Platform will you allow new registrations ?
Answer
We will offer our regular registration with Trial accounts so new users can get to know how well the platform performs before they decide to Subscribe to our 6 month or 12 month subscriptions.
Question
What would the final price be for regular subscriptions ?
Answer
It is too early to tell since it would all depend on what the market would be willing to pay at the time of release. We are considering a price point between $15-$30 a month. Keep in mind this is simply a ballpark guess right now.
-~-~-~-~-~-~-
If you have any other questions please ask in the thread and we will make sure to add it to the OP so that the Q & A is easily accessible to everyone.
We are still finalizing the initial website required for registration so do not be surprised if you visit cryptomanage.io and it is inaccessible.
Keep an eye on this thread for our release announcement and remember you have nothing to lose using our FREE Signal Service and if you are not convinced by this post then only put a small amount into your trading account at first.
We want to convince users with real results and not by shady sales tactics.
Please consider supporting us by subscribing for a Lifetime Premium Subscription. You will quickly realize that the benefits far outweigh the cost of the subscription.
Long time reader/follower of the forum but first time poster now that we have a valuable product every trader could benefit from.
Quick Introduction - Who are we ? :
- We consist of two software engineers who first got involved in building automated logic for online poker that consists of Poker bots.
- Developed multiple limit and nolimit pokerbots for our own use and covered multiple poker sites from short handed cashgames to MTT's and SNG's from 2006 to 2017.
- Experience in manual/automated trading since 2005 on the regular boring stock and forex markets operating our own EA bots.
- In 2014 we started to dabble in crypto trading on the side with no commitment other than observing it as something interesting and possibly something to venture into over the coming years.
- Fast track to 2016. The poker industry started to really fizzle out and the crypto industry seemingly refuse to die which led us to make the decision to move our finances and focus from poker botting over to crypto trading.
- We shutdown all of our pokerbot farms and EA bots January 1st 2017 in order to focus all of our spare time on figuring out our own approach to Crypto trading with the eventual goal of having a structured profitable low volatility automated system in place.
- Our main goal with our approach to trading from day one were based around how we approached our poker bot logic and it involved being essentially a NIT trader which means we do not gamble for high gains just to inversely get destroyed on a sudden market direction change.
- We set out to build our testing and eventual trading logic primarily focusing on profitable low or zero volatility trading.
- This approach worked great in 2017 with the whole crypto market just peaking to new highs until the end of 2017 but making a profit in a bull market requires no genius and the true test would be during a bear run that soon followed.
- 2018, the year that really tested our approach during a full on bear run and we could not be more impressed with the outcome (results shown below).
- Our approach of minimizing losses and getting out with reasonable profit margins performed great throughout the year.
We are convinced that our trading logic is the safest trading logic anyone would find available to the public that removes the bad habits that various other publicly available services are too commonly guilty of.
We are certain that our approach will allow traders to benefit from real emotionless trading in the crypto market without dealing with up and down swings.
What do we offer ? :
- We are building a fully automated trading platform that will be completely 'Plug & Trade'.
- There will be no strategy selections for the end user. Too many platforms available today is simply offering a trading platform void of any provable trading results and then users need to scramble around wasting money on multiple losing trading strategies.
- Users would simply need to input their exchange api key and our trading engine will apply the same trading logic that we have been using for more than a year. Our testing and results includes a 2017 bull year and a 2018 bear year.
- Unlike other Signal Services or even Auto-trading Platforms available today we will be focusing entirely on coin/USDT and later coin/USD trading pairs on supported exchanges.
- We have no intention of trading coin/BTC pairs, trading coin/USD(T) pairs have much higher potential USD earning power.
We have gone through various scenarios since the start of 2017 and identified that focusing on coin/BTC pairs is a losing battle where you constantly have to focus and overcome 2 conditions to play out unrealistically well in order to show reliable profits.
example :
TraderA with $100 today can buy 5x more BTC than a traderB who stayed in coin/BTC trading since January 1st 2018 which mean for traderB to breakeven with traderA who holds $100 today traderB needed to earn atleast 500% in trading gains since January 1st 2018.
On the inverse traderA with $100 start January 1st 2018 who traded exclusively coin/USDT pairs and made a 500% return would have ended up today with 500% higher gains against TraderB in the same scenario.
coin/BTC pairs in trading is simply not the path of least resistance trading.
Why are we offering this ? :
- Initially we were simply taking action based on our preliminary indicators throughout the day as we worked our regular 9-5 job.
- As the months went by we realized we could turn our hobby into a practical product for everyday traders and by offering it at reasonable lifetime subscription for early subscribers we could end up using 100% of our time developing the Autotrading platform.
- We have noticed a vast majority of Index Funds (Tokens) popping up that we strongly felt where taking advantage of people who were throwing good money into a blackhole that were unlikely to ever show a return on investment.
- Bringing our product to market can provide us a generous trading balance boost for a quality service provided and give the same trading strategy access to users, a complete win-win scenario for us and the users.
All of the currently proposed marketed Index Funds(portfolio rebalancers etc.) simply cannot work or make profit longterm without a guarantee longterm bullrun which is more unlikely than finding a unicorn, markets can move sideways or down for years.
If you have no way to turn a profit during a sustained bear run then you have a broken/losing trading system.
At time of writing the following pairs will be supported on Binance.
ADA/USDT
BNB/USDT
BCHABC/USDT
BCHSV/USDT
BTC/USDT
EOS/USDT
ETC/USDT
ETH/USDT
ICX/USDT
IOTA/USDT
LTC/USDT
NEO/USDT
NULS/USDT
ONT/USDT
QTUM/USDT
TRX/USDT
VET/USDT
XLM/USDT
XRP/USDT
Trading Results - 2018-01 up to mid 2018-12
https://i.ibb.co/k46nSyZ/cryptoresults.png
Development Road map :
Phase 1 - January 2019
- Launch manual trading Signal Service for FREE to use until we hit 2000(hard-cap) Premium Paid Subscribers or 10000 FREE registered active users whichever comes first.
- This service will follow the exact logic for Buy/Sell that our automated platform will be using however user would have to act on our signals by trading manually.
- The only requirement in order to access the Signal Service for FREE is to register under our Binance Affiliate account and then provide us with your Binance account name so that we can verify it.
- This will allow us to earn some revenue for our service while keeping it FREE so that enough users can test our service at no cost to them.
- Our product will sell itself once users experience the trading results so we have no problem offering it for FREE for an extended period of time.
Phase 2 - Expected Between March 2019 to May 2019. We want to dedicate our full time to get it out even earlier but it would depend on how many Premium Subscribers we manage to signup before we can commit full time.
- Launch of Automated trading platform.
- The Automated trading platform will automate everything the Signal Service provided previously.
- Subscribers will be able to track their Trading performance in one dashboard.
- Our approach is to remove any confusing customization thus making it 'Plug & Trade' by providing subscribers the neccessary trading performance information and none of the fluff.
Phase 3 (continuous) - Adding additional exchanges depending on our strategy testing results.
List of exchanges we plan to support.
Binance - First exchange supported from the start. Among the largest and all of our yearly research and trading to this point have been done on Binance.
HitBTC - 0% fee on market makers + 0.01% rebate on each trade. Excellent value for money when utilized with our trading strategies and market maker trading.
BitForex - 0% fee on market makers or 0.05% fee on market takers. Coins targetted on this exchange would not be penalized as much with trading fees using either market maker or market taker .
BitMart - 0.05% fee.
KuCoin - 0.10% fee.
PolonieX - 0.10% fee.
BiBox - 0.10% fee.
BitFinex - 0.10% fee.
Early subscribers *Lifetime license :
Milestone 1 - $200 1 to 400
Milestone 2 - $250 - 401 to 800
Milestone 3 - $300 - 801 to 1200
Milestone 4 - $350 - 1201 to 1600
Milestone 5 - $400 - 1601 to 2000
*Lifetime license include the following at no extra cost, ever. :
Autotrading Platform Access, Additional Exchanges Access and any other features or services we may add to cryptomanage in the future.
Different milestones depend on when a user finalize their Premium Subscription payment. Members who subscribe early will reap the benefit of a big discount.
Premium Subscribers allow us to work on this project full time by financing us via subscription and in return we will announce additional FREE perks as we progress through development.
Questions & Answers :
Question
Why do you offer the manual Signal Service for FREE ?
Answer
We are new on this forum and the marketplace and we believe trust should be earned and not forced upon users by forcing them to pay for a product they are not sure about.
We believe strongly enough in our service so by offering it for free we are confident users will see the performance and end up subscribing for a Premium account.
Keep in mind we will be earning a little bit of commission through the Binance affiliate account system on the FREE Signal Service so we are definitely not entirely a charity service.
Question
What will happen to my FREE account if I do not trade on the referal Binance account ?
Answer
Your FREE Signal account will be deactivated if no trading commission is generated over a running count of 10 trade signals(we might revise this number up or down). We might revise this number but this is to protect ourself from not having users signup and simply not using their referal account.
Question
What will happen to the FREE Signal Service once you reach 2000 Premium subscribers ?
Answer
Our goal from the start during the manual Signal Service is to reach 2000 Premium Subscribers so once we reach this number all FREE accounts will be deactivated. We will work with our Premium Subscribers during the development phase of the final Automated Trading Platform.
Question
When you finish the Automated Trading Platform will you allow new registrations ?
Answer
We will offer our regular registration with Trial accounts so new users can get to know how well the platform performs before they decide to Subscribe to our 6 month or 12 month subscriptions.
Question
What would the final price be for regular subscriptions ?
Answer
It is too early to tell since it would all depend on what the market would be willing to pay at the time of release. We are considering a price point between $15-$30 a month. Keep in mind this is simply a ballpark guess right now.
-~-~-~-~-~-~-
If you have any other questions please ask in the thread and we will make sure to add it to the OP so that the Q & A is easily accessible to everyone.
We are still finalizing the initial website required for registration so do not be surprised if you visit cryptomanage.io and it is inaccessible.
Keep an eye on this thread for our release announcement and remember you have nothing to lose using our FREE Signal Service and if you are not convinced by this post then only put a small amount into your trading account at first.
We want to convince users with real results and not by shady sales tactics.
Please consider supporting us by subscribing for a Lifetime Premium Subscription. You will quickly realize that the benefits far outweigh the cost of the subscription.
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