good project, I believe in this project and in this idea, I am sure with this team their project will run smoothly.
Topic: [PRE-ANN]DarkNano: DAG cryptocurrency with privacy! (Read 2415 times)
NANO is getting traction as payment method in Venezuela. For short-term I would definitely invest but not long-term. I did express my concerns here.
waiting for new update this project. specialy about the whitepaper of this project. every one must know about project purpose.
If you guys want to get to the market faster get in touch with me.. Im very interested in DAG and Blockchain interoperability. Im working a on project for the secure transfer/storage of 3d printing files. We are creating a supercomputing raspberry pi hardware network to store files and a P2P B2B File sharing website similar to Ether Delta Architecture.
Im applying for a subisdy grant at Brightlands Blockchain & AI Accelerator in Netherlands where I hold a corporation to execute these tasks. If you want to change the world get in touch because its changing fast. Meta Hash would be a competitor to us as they use DAG and a side blockchain together.
https://www.facebook.com/topshelf3dp/videos/746094035587327/
https://3dpcoin.com/roadmap/
waiting for new update this project. specialy about the whitepaper of this project. every one must know about project purpose.
Another two weeks have past and no sign of life any more here. I'd rather call this project dead - if it ever has been alive.
I'm challenging you, if your project is real, forget the donations, make a volunteer system that will reward anyone who cooperates with the project
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
This makes a lot of sense - although most ICOs are greedy tbh
ok if they accept This model Ill assume its not a scam.
If they keep taking donations .. it will be like all the others ..
They did not reply to this proposal so far. That doesn't look good. I guess if they won't go this way there can be little doubts on which are their real priorities...
Thank you, you took the time to write about the state of development. Good luck with your work.
Sorry for taking too much for news. We have been passing through some dificulties with our jobs, and didn't have much time to keep DarkNano's work.
-Louis and Joshua
-Louis and Joshua
Road map announces the release of wallets for the current month. Any news?
Ok, guy, if you will be able to produce a whitepaper, I 'll be glad to translate in italian.
When needed, I can also help on telegram
When needed, I can also help on telegram
Hey everyone! We are sorry for taking too long to give you news, soon releasing few drafts of whitepaper. Keep following us!
-DarkNano CM
Ok Dev,-DarkNano CM
I'm reserve for Indonesian translation.
Hey everyone! We are sorry for taking too long to give you news, soon releasing few drafts of whitepaper. Keep following us!
-DarkNano CM
-DarkNano CM
I'm challenging you, if your project is real, forget the donations, make a volunteer system that will reward anyone who cooperates with the project
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
This makes a lot of sense - although most ICOs are greedy tbh
ok if they accept This model Ill assume its not a scam.
If they keep taking donations .. it will be like all the others ..
Is this gonna be an open source project?
i see it would be something similar but connected with some sport stuff. There is starting some trend with sport-blockchain project so it can be good choice. good luck dev
Any news?
@DarkNano
Can you create DISCORD or TWITTER account,
co we can track progress more easily ?
Can you create DISCORD or TWITTER account,
co we can track progress more easily ?
I am watching. I am hoping you guys do not pull a Stone and hope you keep your word on there being a faucet. I am a nano early adopter...that being said, if I see a functioning code/wallet/github I could make you guys really happy earlier than most. Best of luck.
lol the faucet starts in 1 month and half but 15% of the coins goes to early donators? its has only 350 usd donated until now
Left coins will be burned. (initial max supply is 100m)
-DarkNano community manager
lol the faucet starts in 1 month and half but 15% of the coins goes to early donators? its has only 350 usd donated until now
waiting for new update this project. specialy about the whitepaper of this project. every one must know about project purpose.
Dev, are you going to stay anonymous? Sounds like a big task with what you're doing with Dark Nano. I need more info before I donate. 
Hey, we would like to assure you that the work is turning out magnificent. We are considering in perform a few webinar with the future participants of the test net. However, we will officially reveal ourselves after the alpha phase starts, so we will start the work on publicity.
Hi devs, what is the update with this, are you going to do an airdrop to $NANO holders? I like all these $NANO hybrid projects, it just gives more validity to Nano's tech.
We decided we will host faucets, and perform airdrops to those who support us during the test net ( soon), and with other future activities. Thank you for the support 😊
The project is kind of interesting, but what is the site graphics? are you planning a rebranding? I wait for detailed information. white paper, the date of sale of the tokens
We will launch whitepaper's first version during this month, with technical and general information. You will also be able to reserve a few DarkNano by helping our team (translations, website, testnet), or by sending us a donation to one of the addresses in our first post.
If you guys wanna clear up more detailed doubts, feel free to PM us =D
-XDK team
Dev, are you going to stay anonymous? Sounds like a big task with what you're doing with Dark Nano. I need more info before I donate.
Can you please explain how Zksnark will work with the block lattice prococol? You need to know the representative's balance in case of an attack but if you obfuscate this with zero knowledge proof there wont be a way to know. It just doesn't make sense to me and that's why I think this is scam unless you can have technical explications about your implementation of Zksnark on NANO.
In simple words, each wallet has 2 blockchains. The obfuscated one, receives information from main chain (its composition is similar to block-lattice), and interact with other nodes, with encrypted informations (funds and blocks). zk-SNARKs always operates when connecting information between these two, this way, ensuring block sender's address cannot be identified when transfered to final destination. With our best, we've got a 2 second time for each protocol's realization, and now our focus is to work in a stress test (to check if it could turn expensive for a full node, and whether we would need to add low fees or not).
Sonn we will launch a first draft of whitepaper, and solve deeper doubts.
Best regards, DarkNano team =D
waiting for wallet and pool soon
Can you please explain how Zksnark will work with the block lattice prococol? You need to know the representative's balance in case of an attack but if you obfuscate this with zero knowledge proof there wont be a way to know. It just doesn't make sense to me and that's why I think this is scam unless you can have technical explications about your implementation of Zksnark on NANO.
Where is the damn code and github?
Following and looking forward to more updates
Another DAG coin....mmmhhh...let's see if someone will make a piece of code!
We also organized this little outline, representing the functionality of DarkNano’s net and how transactions are obfuscated. Basically, each node possesses a z representative, that is generated randomly in an unique side chain of each wallet (it is impossible to identify the z address of each regular address). The node and the znode communicate amongst themselves when identifying a transaction, and that information is transmitted to all of the side chain taking the form of instantaneous blocks, with the realization of the PoW only in between the swap from the zaddress to main address and transmitting between zaddresses without PoW, to enter a consensus within the entire side chain. To simplify the functionality, in a transaction AB:
1-Address A performs a small PoW, transmits the information to zA, performing the zero-knowledge proof
2-Node Pool is instantaneously communicated, and interacts with its respectives zNodes to vote in side chain on 3
4-With 50%+1 of the votes in side chain, the transaction occurs between zA and zB
5-Reverse process of 1, and after confirmed, B performs a small PoW
*A and B may take a full node as representatives, and perform same process demonstrated, like it works with Nano. *The side chain is 100% obfuscated, and work only with zero knowledge connections with the full nodes
**The transactions may stay as pending in the side chain, and transmitted to the main address when online, because both chains are at all times operating in sintony
***The estimated time of transactions completed from blocks is that of at most 4 seconds, and it is limited by the hardware available in the Nodes ( the space taken ends up being bigger, due to double interaction)
****The 4 seconds time is due to double zero knowledge proof
1-Address A performs a small PoW, transmits the information to zA, performing the zero-knowledge proof
2-Node Pool is instantaneously communicated, and interacts with its respectives zNodes to vote in side chain on 3
4-With 50%+1 of the votes in side chain, the transaction occurs between zA and zB
5-Reverse process of 1, and after confirmed, B performs a small PoW
*A and B may take a full node as representatives, and perform same process demonstrated, like it works with Nano. *The side chain is 100% obfuscated, and work only with zero knowledge connections with the full nodes
**The transactions may stay as pending in the side chain, and transmitted to the main address when online, because both chains are at all times operating in sintony
***The estimated time of transactions completed from blocks is that of at most 4 seconds, and it is limited by the hardware available in the Nodes ( the space taken ends up being bigger, due to double interaction)
****The 4 seconds time is due to double zero knowledge proof
Hello everyone! Firstly, we would like to apologize for the time without any news whatsoever, which actually generated some FUD. We were directing all our attention to the code, and are happy to tell you that we already managed to start the first wallet tests (windows) with transactions utilizing the protocol zk-SNARKs, which were more successful than expected.
This print is from one of the most recent test made, soon we will be able to bring you more news, including a summary version of the whitepaper ( which is being written as you read this ). Pay close attention to the post, we will be updating everyone with amazing news very soon. We also made a few modifications to the distribution, allocating a small % to the future bug bounty, giving you incentive to look for glitches in the obfuscation protocol and in the security area( we assure you that the works is being well done, we are proud of it ourselves)
We would also like to clarify, in regards to the FUD, in relation to the donations. We are working 24/7 in DarkNano, because we believe it is a project that will change the way cryptocurrency is seen in the world market, however, like everyone, we do have your bills to pay ,and we would also like to extend our gratitudes to those whore helping and supporting us from the beginning.
Thank you! Sincerely, the DarkNano team
This print is from one of the most recent test made, soon we will be able to bring you more news, including a summary version of the whitepaper ( which is being written as you read this ). Pay close attention to the post, we will be updating everyone with amazing news very soon. We also made a few modifications to the distribution, allocating a small % to the future bug bounty, giving you incentive to look for glitches in the obfuscation protocol and in the security area( we assure you that the works is being well done, we are proud of it ourselves)
We would also like to clarify, in regards to the FUD, in relation to the donations. We are working 24/7 in DarkNano, because we believe it is a project that will change the way cryptocurrency is seen in the world market, however, like everyone, we do have your bills to pay ,and we would also like to extend our gratitudes to those whore helping and supporting us from the beginning.
Thank you! Sincerely, the DarkNano team
Hi devs, what is the update with this, are you going to do an airdrop to $NANO holders? I like all these $NANO hybrid projects, it just gives more validity to Nano's tech.
There is no update on this project and i think that if this will not continue to be released. But i just feel curious about what makes dark nano was different with nanotech itself. But validity for what? You can try to see the developer's account activity and i guess we will get your answer.
Hi devs, what is the update with this, are you going to do an airdrop to $NANO holders? I like all these $NANO hybrid projects, it just gives more validity to Nano's tech.
Do you have bounty for this? look like this coins is very promising. I love Dag coins just like Nano and Iota. I'll keep following at this thread and thank you for sharing this info anyway so i'm aware that we have the next promising coin here.
The project is kind of interesting, but what is the site graphics? are you planning a rebranding? I wait for detailed information. white paper, the date of sale of the tokens
Any planned airdrop?
please link to any personal profiles of the team ...
Any updates to report Darknano?
Hey! We've been finishing the code, soon we will release it to public, and also started drawing DarkNano lightpaper, very busy atm.
-DarkNano team
Any updates to report Darknano?
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Hey, we will definetely need it. PM us please, so in the next weeks you can help us translating the lightpaper. =DHi,do you need portuguese translation?
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Hey, we will definetely need it. PM us please, so in the next weeks you can help us translating the lightpaper. =D 
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Love that you altered the gameplan to make it more airdrop/faucet centric devs! Gives us trust in you guys 
Is there anywhere we should get in line for this airdrop other than posting to this forum? Thanks!
Is there anywhere we should get in line for this airdrop other than posting to this forum? Thanks!
Hey! If you help us with designs, divulgation, websites, telegram channel or anything, we will evaluate and tell you how much XDK we will distribute for you! Right now, we are 100% focused on testing transfers, so we don't have much time to work on this things. PM us if you have any suggestion =)
Love that you altered the gameplan to make it more airdrop/faucet centric devs! Gives us trust in you guys
Is there anywhere we should get in line for this airdrop other than posting to this forum? Thanks!
Is there anywhere we should get in line for this airdrop other than posting to this forum? Thanks!
I got on the donate list.
thanks dev, I believe you
thanks dev, I believe you
Awesome! Very hyped, this can be a great coin
Hi, I created a discord server for discussing DAG coins. Every DAG is listed and has its own channel.
https://discord.gg/auFsMSD.
Feel free to join us ! See ya.
https://discord.gg/auFsMSD.
Feel free to join us ! See ya.
Nothing is ready..except donation addresses !
I don't why you anyone needs donations ..are you building a physical structure ?
at the max you need a computer,a server and few hours/days of time..all a few hundred dollars to start coding
When you are ready ,just show the code and ask donations to take it to the world !
I don't why you anyone needs donations ..are you building a physical structure ?
at the max you need a computer,a server and few hours/days of time..all a few hundred dollars to start coding
When you are ready ,just show the code and ask donations to take it to the world !
hmm! not sure about this project still but will keep an eye on the development and the available information, might even donate if I am convinced of the progress. good luck!
when moon?
how i mine?
There is no mining, total supply will always be 100m (unless we burn some before official release).
how i mine?
Looking forward to your project and i will follow this. when your are going to release more information about your project and team info will be public or not?
following to see if I can mine these
What makes this diffrent from Manta(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pre-ann-manta-dag-zksnarks-fast-fee-less-private-cryptocurrency-2696095) they seem to have the same ideas as you with privacy and high tps!
Actually, lots of coins in the crypto-world harem released recently which have private feature. It's not strange because privacy seems to be hot trend in the year 2018.
What makes this diffrent from Manta(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pre-ann-manta-dag-zksnarks-fast-fee-less-private-cryptocurrency-2696095) they seem to have the same ideas as you with privacy and high tps!
Anyone deposit money to this project deservs to lose his money. This is the same guy as stone, mantra and f@#k knows what else he tried to scam people with.
I think donation is totally voluntary, and so there are not scam here But anyway we need more information: Road map, Whitepaper and Real info of the team behind this project, before make any decision I'm challenging you, if your project is real, forget the donations, make a volunteer system that will reward anyone who cooperates with the project
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
supported
I'm challenging you, if your project is real, forget the donations, make a volunteer system that will reward anyone who cooperates with the project
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
This makes a lot of sense - although most ICOs are greedy tbh
I hope that is not scam
reserved
All right, guys. I understand that creating a project is not an easy task. I would like more information about the project. I think that in vain you told the project ahead of time. It was necessary to do this when everything was ready. Good luck.
I'm challenging you, if your project is real, forget the donations, make a volunteer system that will reward anyone who cooperates with the project
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
5% devs
10% bounty for volunteer contributors, web designer, translator, programmer etc
85% faucet
You do not need donations to make this project a reality
another privacy DAG coin, how about showing your face to prove from the beginning this is not a scam? i doubt it. Probably the same guy from Stone, hes writting style seems the same as well
Another DAG coin....mmmhhh...let's see if someone will make a piece of code!
We will be constantly updating this thread, and in a few days publish our roadmap with a small scheme of our code working. Thank you for the support, this is gonna be a open and clean work, we don't intend on staying anonymous for much long.
-Joshua, core developer
Anyone deposit money to this project deservs to lose his money. This is the same guy as stone, mantra and f@#k knows what else he tried to scam people with.
I'm sorry some of you may have donated to suspicious promises, we truly got surprise when we discovered other people were working in a similar idea in such a short time, saying it could be ''easily'' done.-Joshua, core developer
Anyone deposit money to this project deservs to lose his money. This is the same guy as stone, mantra and f@#k knows what else he tried to scam people with.
Me too
I am more interested in a project that is not holding an ICO but there is already a good platform, or a roadmap is being implemented I'm sure it will get the community's approval and support, looking forward to more update and of course I want to participate if there is going to be an airdrop.
added your tweet if there is a desire to thank the addresses that you will always find on my page on Twitter https://twitter.com/Bill_Djons/status/964355536652156928
Someone is going to do this. After the nano scam, this could surpass all if distribution is more even and trustworthy to the general public. Anyways, get going on that Github.
..and you have not forgot to add donation addresses !
We don't really need donations right now, but we would definetely appreciate the support! =D
Nothing is ready..except donation addresses !
I don't why you anyone needs donations ..are you building a physical structure ?
at the max you need a computer,a server and few hours/days of time..all a few hundred dollars to start coding
When you are ready ,just show the code and ask donations to take it to the world !
I don't why you anyone needs donations ..are you building a physical structure ?
at the max you need a computer,a server and few hours/days of time..all a few hundred dollars to start coding
When you are ready ,just show the code and ask donations to take it to the world !
pls dev make an airdrop for this
Presenting you DarkNano!
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Fast, fee-less, scalable and privacy. All in one cryptocurrency
Principles:
-Dark Nano is a DAG cryptocurrency, which uses as its basis the same elements as Nano (dPoS), bringing primordial elements for a successful microtransactions coin. We are working hard on testing the main protocols of Raiblocks/Nano with some changes in the block-lattice operation, while also implementing a privacy protocol.
- We aim to convey a solid project, which delivers a strong and secure cryptocurrency to users while maintaining privacy and instant transactions.
How far we’ve come:
-Preliminary tests have already been made with zk-SNARKs that resulted in limited success. However, the dPoS verification speed is significantly slowing down, resulting in a lower than expected Tx/s. On the other hand, we’ve had success restructuring the code with the final goal of having a 2 second time transaction, which is unfortunately bringing difficulties with the PoW step.
Even Though our main focus has been with zk-SNARKs, and our priority is to finish testing all outcomes with our current script, we are still open minded and have not discarded the possibility of testing alternative methods to implement privacy.
About us:
-Our team at the moment consists of 2 core developers, and we are in currently negotiating with a web designer. Me, Louis, and Joshua, will be constantly updating you with our progress, the possible dates for publishing wallets, the coding process, and everything else related to DarkNano.
We have followed Collin's Raiblocks project since it's beginning, and have decided to start slowly building our cryptocurrency last year. Watching Raiblocks/Nano enormous growth, we decided it was time we started working on it full time, make it happen as soon and as effectively as possible and change people's life. At this early stage, we have decided to stay in anonymity until we deliver a finished code as well as the wallets. This way we can also start building up a strong marketing trajectory and move forward to exchange listings.
How will it work:
Roadmap:
Distribution:
It's not our main priority right now, but we are planning on making faucets (like Raiblocks), or maybe airdrops to Nano holders. We will also give DarkNano coins for early donators, and distribute for those who participate actively in testnet.
The distribution method taken will be the one we find fairer
(thoughts and ideas in the comments are appreciated)
Our current percentages are:
-3.5% as a dev fund
-2.5% for bug bounty
-15% to early donators
-79.5% for public distribution
max supply is going to be 100m DarkNano (XDK)
(the left coins will be burned and reduce the max supply)
Alpha version wallet:
*We will randomly choose donators to participate in our testnet
Whitepaper: (soon)
Github DarkNano: (soon)
Github Windows Wallet: (soon)
References: http://zerocash-project.org/paper
https://raiblocks.net/media/RaiBlocks_Whitepaper__English.pdf
https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4419-9863-7_423
Principles:
-Dark Nano is a DAG cryptocurrency, which uses as its basis the same elements as Nano (dPoS), bringing primordial elements for a successful microtransactions coin. We are working hard on testing the main protocols of Raiblocks/Nano with some changes in the block-lattice operation, while also implementing a privacy protocol.
- We aim to convey a solid project, which delivers a strong and secure cryptocurrency to users while maintaining privacy and instant transactions.
How far we’ve come:
-Preliminary tests have already been made with zk-SNARKs that resulted in limited success. However, the dPoS verification speed is significantly slowing down, resulting in a lower than expected Tx/s. On the other hand, we’ve had success restructuring the code with the final goal of having a 2 second time transaction, which is unfortunately bringing difficulties with the PoW step.
Even Though our main focus has been with zk-SNARKs, and our priority is to finish testing all outcomes with our current script, we are still open minded and have not discarded the possibility of testing alternative methods to implement privacy.
About us:
-Our team at the moment consists of 2 core developers, and we are in currently negotiating with a web designer. Me, Louis, and Joshua, will be constantly updating you with our progress, the possible dates for publishing wallets, the coding process, and everything else related to DarkNano.
We have followed Collin's Raiblocks project since it's beginning, and have decided to start slowly building our cryptocurrency last year. Watching Raiblocks/Nano enormous growth, we decided it was time we started working on it full time, make it happen as soon and as effectively as possible and change people's life. At this early stage, we have decided to stay in anonymity until we deliver a finished code as well as the wallets. This way we can also start building up a strong marketing trajectory and move forward to exchange listings.
How will it work:
Quote
We also organized this little outline, representing the functionality of DarkNano’s net and how transactions are obfuscated. Basically, each node possesses a z representative, that is generated randomly in an unique side chain of each wallet (it is impossible to identify the z address of each regular address). The node and the znode communicate amongst themselves when identifying a transaction, and that information is transmitted to all of the side chain taking the form of instantaneous blocks, with the realization of the PoW only in between the swap from the zaddress to main address and transmitting between zaddresses without PoW, to enter a consensus within the entire side chain. To simplify the functionality, in a transaction AB:
1-Address A performs a small PoW, transmits the information to zA, performing the zero-knowledge proof
2-Node Pool is instantaneously communicated, and interacts with its respectives zNodes to vote in side chain on 3
4-With 50%+1 of the votes in side chain, the transaction occurs between zA and zB
5-Reverse process of 1, and after confirmed, B performs a small PoW
*A and B may take a full node as representatives, and perform same process demonstrated, like it works with Nano. *The side chain is 100% obfuscated, and work only with zero knowledge connections with the full nodes
**The transactions may stay as pending in the side chain, and transmitted to the main address when online, because both chains are at all times operating in sintony
***The estimated time of transactions completed from blocks is that of at most 4 seconds, and it is limited by the hardware available in the Nodes ( the space taken ends up being bigger, due to double interaction)
****The 4 seconds time is due to double zero knowledge proof
1-Address A performs a small PoW, transmits the information to zA, performing the zero-knowledge proof
2-Node Pool is instantaneously communicated, and interacts with its respectives zNodes to vote in side chain on 3
4-With 50%+1 of the votes in side chain, the transaction occurs between zA and zB
5-Reverse process of 1, and after confirmed, B performs a small PoW
*A and B may take a full node as representatives, and perform same process demonstrated, like it works with Nano. *The side chain is 100% obfuscated, and work only with zero knowledge connections with the full nodes
**The transactions may stay as pending in the side chain, and transmitted to the main address when online, because both chains are at all times operating in sintony
***The estimated time of transactions completed from blocks is that of at most 4 seconds, and it is limited by the hardware available in the Nodes ( the space taken ends up being bigger, due to double interaction)
****The 4 seconds time is due to double zero knowledge proof
Roadmap:
Distribution:
It's not our main priority right now, but we are planning on making faucets (like Raiblocks), or maybe airdrops to Nano holders. We will also give DarkNano coins for early donators, and distribute for those who participate actively in testnet.
The distribution method taken will be the one we find fairer
(thoughts and ideas in the comments are appreciated)
Our current percentages are:
-3.5% as a dev fund
-2.5% for bug bounty
-15% to early donators
-79.5% for public distribution
max supply is going to be 100m DarkNano (XDK)
(the left coins will be burned and reduce the max supply)
Alpha version wallet:
*We will randomly choose donators to participate in our testnet
Whitepaper: (soon)
Github DarkNano: (soon)
Github Windows Wallet: (soon)
References: http://zerocash-project.org/paper
https://raiblocks.net/media/RaiBlocks_Whitepaper__English.pdf
https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4419-9863-7_423
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