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Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on November 08, 2023, 02:37:22 PM

Well, preev.com is one of the most popular site among the Bitcoin community so why does the owner not care about this cash cow Huh

Also, when the site is down for so many days, people will shift to some other sites (few of them are available these days) and may not know that this site is back again.

Also, this site is not https protected, as it is showing "non-secure", and looks non-professional Sad

If it would be cash cow, I'm sure that we would see different approach from owner. No it doesn't generate much or any profit as there is no ad banners or affiliate links on website. So, most likely aim of this website isn't profit and it's probably just side project of owner which don't requires much work and time.

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Quote from: Husires on November 08, 2023, 02:51:55 PM

Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on November 08, 2023, 02:37:22 PM

Also, this site is not https protected, as it is showing "non-secure", and looks non-professional Sad

There was one of the most famous bots on Twitter, which I thought was managed by someone with technical experience, but it turned out to be someone who bought the bot and was managing it. So I would not be surprised if the person running the site was someone with no technical knowledge and thought of it more as a side project than something that could generate income.

He may have had enough Bitcoin and become too busy.

Again I would not take this argument, as if he was a non-techy person or if he did not need the site anymore, why did he renew the domain and make the site available online? He could have just let the project go but he somehow brought it back online.

I think the owner is more sort of a careless person who does not understand that he has a diamond with him but does not know the worth of it Undecided

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Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on November 08, 2023, 02:37:22 PM

Also, this site is not https protected, as it is showing "non-secure", and looks non-professional Sad

There was one of the most famous bots on Twitter, which I thought was managed by someone with technical experience, but it turned out to be someone who bought the bot and was managing it. So I would not be surprised if the person running the site was someone with no technical knowledge and thought of it more as a side project than something that could generate income.

He may have had enough Bitcoin and become too busy.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 30, 2023, 03:20:41 PM

They could, it's not a problem. But from what we saw in recent years, it seems that owner of Preev.com simply doesn't cares much about his website anymore.

Well, preev.com is one of the most popular site among the Bitcoin community so why does the owner not care about this cash cow Huh

Also, when the site is down for so many days, people will shift to some other sites (few of them are available these days) and may not know that this site is back again.

Also, this site is not https protected, as it is showing "non-secure", and looks non-professional Sad

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Quote from: TravelMug on October 30, 2023, 12:20:22 PM

And it seems that Preev.com is back again guys.

Good, only question for how long this time? It looks that recently they're more time down than online.

Quote from: Biffa on October 23, 2023, 08:19:25 AM

They could move their DNS to buddyns

Free service is 300K query/month
$3 a month for 3mil query/month

They could, it's not a problem. But from what we saw in recent years, it seems that owner of Preev.com simply doesn't cares much about his website anymore.

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And it seems that Preev.com is back again guys.

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Quote from: TravelMug on October 09, 2023, 09:01:17 PM

I've found similar website:

(https://myri.io/)

That seems to be the exact same copy of preev.com but many people may not know about this site. I just checked and it has around 2K monthly visits. (stats by Similiarweb)

Usually, most people know only about preev.com and they don't search for similar sites like preev.

Quote from: alani123 on October 10, 2023, 02:20:25 PM

I'm bookmarking this.

Same here

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They could move their DNS to buddyns

Free service is 300K query/month
$3 a month for 3mil query/month

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Quote from: Yamane_Keto on October 09, 2023, 09:00:09 AM

The lack of a reference price for Bitcoin is what makes this site popular. If you want to trade outside exchange, there is no reference price for bitcoin. I can give you three prices for Bitcoin:

Google 27,511.40 USD
CoinMarketCap 27,499.46 USD
Coingecko: 27,507.41 USD

they simply took a service as a reference which is Preev.com, and people continued to do that, which made it popular.

Coinmarketcap.com and coingecko are not the same as preev. They are good reference prices.

Those services provide a bitcoin price based on the price of list of major exchanges, weighted by their volume.

Preev doesn't do that. It may be getting the price from binance only, or coingecko or whatever.

I understand that people use it as a reference price, but I personally don't understand why ...

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Quote from: TravelMug on October 09, 2023, 09:01:17 PM

I've found similar website:

(https://myri.io/)

Note though that I'm not connected with the developer of this site.

This website has a UI that is a 1 to 1 copy to preev.com. But I think the difference is in the details. The only price source this website has is Bitstamp. Bitstamp is a good and long running exchange but these days doesn't have that big of a share in the market's total volume. Preev was better in providing an average price between more exchanges. Still visually and functionally it's very good and also has no ads. Keeps the original's spirit up. I'm bookmarking this.

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Quote from: TravelMug on October 09, 2023, 09:01:17 PM

I've found similar website:

(https://myri.io/)

UI is similar to https://pnnv.com

Where you found it, it is simple and serves the purpose, the only problem is that they rely on one exchange API which is bitstamp. The price will not represent an average and depends on a single source, which may not give reliable results.

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Quote from: Mitchell on October 09, 2023, 06:19:34 AM

Quote from: PX-Z on October 08, 2023, 06:28:39 PM

No, just the OG members, i don't think the new ones heard about preev other than here. I'm one of those who have been curious why preev is very famous here when cmc, coingecko, coindesk and other cmc-like site is much more better, more accurate for average price, many option to convert, etc.

The reason why we liked Preev is simple, it showed us a price, right away, with no distractions.

I've used BitcoinAverage a lot before as well, but now they don't even have a calculator anymore, so it has also become outdated. CoinGecko is very nice, but can't beat the simplicity. 🤷‍♂️

EDIT: Just noticed that Preev.net uses the CoinGecko API, so it does actually show an average price. Very nice.

Bitcoinaverage normally has a price conversion tool here But it seems like it works through a websocket that is just broken right now and the website probably hasn't been maintained for quite a while.
I also like coinmarketcap's widget, it currently works but isn't as fast or easy to use: https://coinmarketcap.com/converter/
Also not as clear as to what data it uses. 🤷‍♂️

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For a simple website like preev.com, Cloudflare's free plan should be an adequate enough DNS provider. If you don't need a full pro account there are some premium add-ons that are extremely cheap and you can pay as you go. Alternatively, if the admin just doesn't want to put much effort into maintaining the website they could probably sell the domain for a good amount. Anybody wanting to build a website around Bitcoin will get good traffic because it has a very recognizable name.

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I've found similar website:

(https://myri.io/)

Note though that I'm not connected with the developer of this site.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 09, 2023, 03:26:49 PM

After PNNV.com owner decided to remove price checker from main page, I started using your website. Everything is great, I like such simplicity, but there is one thing that I miss here a lot - mBTC conversion.

I know about that shortcoming and a few others. I still have a whole list of additions that are planned to be implemented. Of course, the main focus will be on the Bitcoin price calculator. With the obvious problem that preev.com has, it seems I have to push the whole thing.

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Issues with Preev.com already become continous in last few years. I think it's time to forget aboutthem and move on. Especially when there is few good alternatives. I know, many of us had habbit to check price on this website and it's difficult to change it. But you can't rely on website which is down most of time.

Quote from: examplens on October 08, 2023, 07:32:51 AM

Honestly, I don't have much time to devote to improving the price calculator on preev.net
I had a desire, but in addition to time, I still lacked specific programming knowledge to implement everything I planned here. Nothing spectacular, just a couple of additions that would bring more usefulness than the usual "BTC-live price calc".

After PNNV.com owner decided to remove price checker from main page, I started using your website. Everything is great, I like such simplicity, but there is one thing that I miss here a lot - mBTC conversion.

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Quote from: bitmover on October 09, 2023, 06:23:14 AM

I don't get how preev got só many access. Usually when I need to know btc price I just write BTC USD in Google or any other Google search.

The lack of a reference price for Bitcoin is what makes this site popular. If you want to trade outside exchange, there is no reference price for bitcoin. I can give you three prices for Bitcoin:

Google 27,511.40 USD
CoinMarketCap 27,499.46 USD
Coingecko: 27,507.41 USD

they simply took a service as a reference which is Preev.com, and people continued to do that, which made it popular.

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That site has been my go-to for a quick check on Bitcoin prices and conversions. It's been down for a while now, and honestly, I've lost hope that they'll ever come back. But I'm glad to see that there are some alternatives floating around, so I'm grateful to those who've shared them.

However, if they do happen to make a comeback, I'll probably go right back to using them. You know how it is – you get so used to something after it's been a part of your daily routine for years. Checking prices there has become a daily habit for me.

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Quote from: hugeblack on October 09, 2023, 05:01:11 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on October 08, 2023, 07:46:13 AM

by @bitmover - (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html)
by @agentF - (https://pnnv.com/). This is the thread: (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-im-happy-to-announce-the-official-launch-of-pnnvcom-5410871).

1) bitmover developed a good website with multiple options, but it is not a simple price tracking tool with a short URL and a simple interface just like it was in Preev.com.
2) The site owner talked about updates to the UI, so the site is not currently working as a simple tool for displaying the price of Bitcoin.

Thanks for mentioning

The idea was to have multiple fiat currencies and all bitcoin units, not as simple as preev

I don't get how preev got só many access. Usually when I need to know btc price I just write BTC USD in Google or any other Google search.

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Quote from: PX-Z on October 08, 2023, 06:28:39 PM

No, just the OG members, i don't think the new ones heard about preev other than here. I'm one of those who have been curious why preev is very famous here when cmc, coingecko, coindesk and other cmc-like site is much more better, more accurate for average price, many option to convert, etc.

The reason why we liked Preev is simple, it showed us a price, right away, with no distractions.

I've used BitcoinAverage a lot before as well, but now they don't even have a calculator anymore, so it has also become outdated. CoinGecko is very nice, but can't beat the simplicity. 🤷‍♂️

EDIT: Just noticed that Preev.net uses the CoinGecko API, so it does actually show an average price. Very nice.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on October 08, 2023, 02:14:29 PM

For now, their issue is related to DNS but the DNS provider is only offering monthly and annual subscriptions.
Why the owner of preev.com didn't switch to free Cloudflare isn't that enough? Switching to free Cloudflare could save costs while providing SSL, CDN, and DDoS protection for free and also eliminate DNS expiration.

There are a lot of questions, and I remember that the last time when the site stopped, one of the people contacted the owner and access to the site was restored after several days, so this may happen again. The problem is that this down time has become many and numerous, so it is not a reliable site to rely on.

Quote from: TravelMug on October 08, 2023, 07:46:13 AM

by @bitmover - (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html)
by @agentF - (https://pnnv.com/). This is the thread: (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-im-happy-to-announce-the-official-launch-of-pnnvcom-5410871).

1) bitmover developed a good website with multiple options, but it is not a simple price tracking tool with a short URL and a simple interface just like it was in Preev.com.
2) The site owner talked about updates to the UI, so the site is not currently working as a simple tool for displaying the price of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: TravelMug on October 08, 2023, 07:46:13 AM

Yeah, I guess majority here are used to seeing preev.com as our preferred site to check for the latest price. It's a habit that it's hard to break

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No, just the OG members, i don't think the new ones heard about preev other than here. I'm one of those who have been curious why preev is very famous here when cmc, coingecko, coindesk and other cmc-like site is much more better, more accurate for average price, many option to convert, etc.

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Quote from: TravelMug on October 08, 2023, 07:46:13 AM

[...]
by @agentF - (https://pnnv.com/).
[...]

I no longer recommend pnnv.com, since it moved away from, what I considered, its purpose. I do not want to sell or buy anything.

~~Yes, it can still be used for that~~, but it is nowhere as nice as, for example, preev.net.

EDIT: Nevermind, you can't even use pnnv.com to get the Bitcoin price anymore. Yes, I can enter 0.1BTC and then look at it's rate, but at that point, just use something else.

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For now, their issue is related to DNS but the DNS provider is only offering monthly and annual subscriptions.
Why the owner of preev.com didn't switch to free Cloudflare isn't that enough? Switching to free Cloudflare could save costs while providing SSL, CDN, and DDoS protection for free and also eliminate DNS expiration.

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Quote from: hugeblack on October 08, 2023, 05:06:45 AM

I do not know the reason for preferring Preev.com, but if you search the forum you will find that there is a problem with this domain every 3 to 6 months, so it cannot be relied upon as a reliable source. The problem will be solved, but thinking about alternatives is desirable, especially since we are no longer in the year 2016 and there are many good alternatives.

Yeah, I guess majority here are used to seeing preev.com as our preferred site to check for the latest price. It's a habit that it's hard to break

. But yeah there are a lot of alternatives now.

Quote from: hugeblack on October 08, 2023, 05:06:45 AM

https://preev.net/ is the best alternative.

Yes, and another:

by @bitmover - (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html)

by @agentF - (https://pnnv.com/). This is the thread: (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-im-happy-to-announce-the-official-launch-of-pnnvcom-5410871).

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Quote from: hugeblack on October 08, 2023, 05:06:45 AM

https://preev.net/ is the best alternative.

Honestly, I don't have much time to devote to improving the price calculator on preev.net
I had a desire, but in addition to time, I still lacked specific programming knowledge to implement everything I planned here. Nothing spectacular, just a couple of additions that would bring more usefulness than the usual "BTC-live price calc".

If here a developer is willing to help to make a valuable service, I am open to suggestions. My budget is limited for this, and I certainly would not go into domain monetization by adding other services or advertisements.

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I do not know the reason for preferring Preev.com, but if you search the forum you will find that there is a problem with this domain every 3 to 6 months, so it cannot be relied upon as a reliable source. The problem will be solved, but thinking about alternatives is desirable, especially since we are no longer in the year 2016 and there are many good alternatives.

https://preev.net/ is the best alternative.

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Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on October 07, 2023, 09:00:14 AM

I tried to open Preev.com to check the btc rates but i get the error. If i remember correctly, it was working fine a few days back when i last checked but now the site shows DNS error.

They are having the same issue regularly. Few months ago the site was down for weeks I think. The site created a good brand and receives a lot of traffic. It seems the owner have investment issue which he could resolve easily if he was running a simple ad. Not sure why don't he run any ad or look for investments. A project like this really is a great help to the bitcoin community.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 07, 2023, 10:48:26 AM

Preev.com has been such a odd website. The owner never cared to monetize it through the years and yet it was quietly visited daily by thousands. Hell, not even a donation address...
All I remember was seeing a post about it in r/Bitcoin 10 years ago, and it was an instant success. Still to this day all I know for it's creator is that his username is "turtoise" on Reddit. Most probably it's still owned by the same person. Perhaps he's too busy enjoying his early bitcoiner life to fix it instantly, but it always comes around usually.

If he's too busy he can extend the domain for three or more years and his webhosting as well all through the years that Preev was online the host seldom goes downtime so he has a good host the problem is the owner he should opted to do that.
Preev.com is a valuable domain because its a very old domain and it has a good flow of traffic and backlink its unwise for the owner to just let it go by neglecting to renew both the domain and the host.

I cannot understand if he's too busy or simply doesn't care at this point. Approximately a little over a year ago the website was down again and remained non functioning long enough for alternatives to start popping up. No explanation was ever made, not that he owed us one, but there was never any communication from his behalf, which was quite odd if you ask me. I don't think he has logged in the forum for the past few years either. It's no surprise that it's down again, even though this is likely to be some error from the hosting's end, the domain isn't expiring soon either.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 07, 2023, 10:48:26 AM

Preev.com has been such a odd website. The owner never cared to monetize it through the years and yet it was quietly visited daily by thousands. Hell, not even a donation address...
All I remember was seeing a post about it in r/Bitcoin 10 years ago, and it was an instant success. Still to this day all I know for it's creator is that his username is "turtoise" on Reddit. Most probably it's still owned by the same person. Perhaps he's too busy enjoying his early bitcoiner life to fix it instantly, but it always comes around usually.

If he's too busy he can extend the domain for three or more years and his webhosting as well all through the years that Preev was online the host seldom goes downtime so he has a good host the problem is the owner he should opted to do that.
Preev.com is a valuable domain because its a very old domain and it has a good flow of traffic and backlink its unwise for the owner to just let it go by neglecting to renew both the domain and the host.

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The error is at the end of their hosting server. As said above, this is not the first time this has happened. And the last one (before this one) was the longest down so several alternatives emerged to "seize" the position
However I won't speculate what happens next as there is no official ann. In this thread you can find some alternatives. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/which-one-is-your-most-favorite-alternative-to-preevcom-5411783

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Preev.com has been such a odd website. The owner never cared to monetize it through the years and yet it was quietly visited daily by thousands. Hell, not even a donation address...
All I remember was seeing a post about it in r/Bitcoin 10 years ago, and it was an instant success. Still to this day all I know for it's creator is that his username is "turtoise" on Reddit. Most probably it's still owned by the same person. Perhaps he's too busy enjoying his early bitcoiner life to fix it instantly, but it always comes around usually.

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This is the third time that the site has been down the last time the issue was the domain the admin renewed before the grace period expired and before that, the web host expired just like what's happening here Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired. and this is just July of last year, it looks like the admin is not receiving a notification if the host is expiring even if the domain or he is aware but do not have funds to renew it.
But we have a lot of alternatives that people can use and they are as dependable like Preev.com.

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No, the domain will expire in 2025 it still has over a year the one that expires is the host, the admin of Preev.com should renew the host for the site to be up again

https://www.whois.com/whois/preev.com

Domain:preev.com
Registrar:Name.com, Inc.
Registered On:2011-06-12
Expires On:2025-01-01
Updated On:2021-12-31

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This can be an another alternative https://pnnv.com/btc-price (they changed the url for the price conversion)

I also face same issue, preev.com had suffered this problem many times, so I think the best is to migrate to other alternative.

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Not sure what the issue might be, but here are a couple of alternatives:

- preev.pro (looks identical to the original site, but uses different price sources)
- preev.net made by @examplens: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411037.20

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I tried to open Preev.com to check the btc rates but i get the error. If i remember correctly, it was working fine a few days back when i last checked but now the site shows DNS error.

Does this mean that the site domain is expired and the owners did not renew it ?

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