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Quote from: bots1 on February 05, 2024, 09:36:00 AM

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Meanwhile, Arsenal still has its mainstays such as Saka and Martinelli whose performance is much better.
If Liverpool can't maintain their points in the next few matches, I'm sure they will be moved by MC or Arsenal.

A bad result for Liverpool. In fact, I was hoping for a draw for this match. 2 Liverpool player mistakes made Arsenal look more effective even though I saw Liverpool slightly superior in possession. Alisson and Van Dijk made fatal mistakes resulting in Arsenal goals. Of course this defeat makes Liverpool lose, the distance of points is getting thinner. Two points is not much, if Liverpool make mistakes then their position will not be safe. This moment should have been used by Liverpool to make the distance wider, but they failed.

In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defense. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.

Talking about Ibrahima Konaté getting a red card considered a bad mistake for me it's not a mistake because even if Ibrahima Konaté didn't get a red card Arsenal would still be ahead with a score of 2-1 only after Ibrahima Konaté got a red card after that the defense was very weak and conceded again in the last minute.
I know that Alisson and Van Dijk were in the spotlight which was thought to be the cause of the mistake but it happened accidentally and they tried to secure the goal but it ended very badly.
Currently, Manchester City and Arsenal have the same points and only have a difference of 2 points from Liverpool and it not surprising that the Premier League has become very competitive because several clubs have taken turns being in first place the points table.

If there are no problems that will happen again, it looks like Manchester City will take first place again and Liverpool will only compete to be in second place and compete with Arsenal.

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Pochettino is simply even worst compared to the graham potter. I would like to call that he was a new graham potter or even worst. Graham potter was able getting more point even it was only 1 point more compared to the pochettino. Chelsea is a fuckin clown right now. I think that it's time for todd boehly to sack him.
There is no place for him in the club again. The performance from pochettino was worst compared to the potter which is embarassing result for sure. The quality if club has been relegation a lot and this is the main problem.

I hope chelsea management can hear this caused by the team spent a half of billion for nothing. No improvement happened to the club. It means that chelsea was only stupidly redistributing its money to get garbage and overrated players.
Some clubs were successfully scamming chelsea to get mediocre player. Pochettino deserves to be sacked as soon as possible.

It's so dump to see pochettino has not been sacked yet. It'a very embarassing decision from todd boehly.

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I should also state my opinion on the Onana topic while you are mentioning him.

Yeah, he isn't normally a bad goalkeeper. Do you remember his performance in the Champions League last season? He was just amazing honestly. He was one of the best performing goalkeepers. The only but important problem about Onana is consistency. Since he joined Manchester United you have all seen it clearly. Sad

In fact this isn't the first time Onana is conceding easy goals. There are many examples from even before he joined Inter. But I don't want this to overshadow his talent anyway. He is a player grown from Barcelona youth.

I hope to see him doing better than this next season.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on February 05, 2024, 11:52:37 AM

Onana sometimes was lucky enough when the defensive line of mu was performing so perfect like in the match against westham. Even though manchester united was only making 5 goal attempts but three of these have been converted into the goals. I think that onana has been lowering his standard since he was leaving from intermilan.
No progress, no improvement and no more patience for him. Some people keep delusional waiting for him to perform better but it's never happening. Im still also feeling curious how can people be very patience waiting him to make the progress while he never deliver?

The only best solution for this to kick him out from the club. Onana was just degrading the level of club. he was actually useless goal keeper of manchester united. I strong support MU to put him on the bench then bought the new goal keeper to come in.
Onana was not even making individual improvement. I don't see it till now. There's no need to be patience anymore to trust his process caused by he will never ever make it happen.

Mu can be better once onana will be only sitting on the bench. MU needs someone who can perform like vicario on totenham. At least someone who have fast response to catch the ball.

There's no doubt that Onana is not always bad, he can be reliable when it comes to playing from the build up and he's very good at delivering good passes to attackers, he all saw his potential during the UCL finals against Manchester City, I think that's what triggered United to go for him. However since he came to United he's been having difficulties adapting there, I think he'll need more time to regain his form again, but that's what United need currently. They need quick action, someone that would make a difference upon arrival.

I think United need a good replacement for him by summer, a club like that shouldn't be conceding much goals, and sometimes it's due to Onana's errors and bad positioning that caused them to concede much, especially in the UCL matches. Well too bad for him a new management have arrived and I'm pretty sure Sir Jim and his team won't be patient enough to watch him improve and continue being their 1st choice.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 05, 2024, 02:01:50 PM

Fully expect Man City to take advantage of Liverpool’s slip up yesterday and destroy Brentford tonight. This is the time of every season under Pep where they rattle off 10+ consecutive victories to really swing the title pendulum in their favour.

I’m disappointed in Liverpool yesterday but we hadn’t lost in the league since September and Salah was out. We will regroup and put Burnley to the sword on Saturday.

Manchester City did exactly what you said last night.

Brentford's goal came in a really unexpected moment but it was no problem for Manchester City. There was really a Foden show in this match by a hat-trick. Haaland wasn't very good on one-on-ones but I don't want to blame him for that much. Because Flekken made a really decent effort despite conceding 3 goals.

Liverpool were disappointing indeed. Sad

I thought they would still be close to victory without even Salah. Because their recent performance was really convincing to me.

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Quote from: Docnaster on February 04, 2024, 04:58:56 PM

The English Premier League game between Arsenal and Liverpool was exciting to Arsenal fans and others who also wanted to see Arsenal win and not for everyone because I wasn't happy with the result. I had already predicted that Liverpool were going to win the game but little did I know that Mikel Arteta had already prepared his side by giving them the best available style of football that'll see them defeat the league leaders

The match between Arsenal and Liverpool was exciting only for those who anticipated Arsenal would win. Based on their previous performances, I underestimated them. Arsenal surprised us by defeating Liverpool 3:1; the Arteta guys put on an excellent play. Arsenal joined Manchester City and Liverpool in the Premier League title race. As of right now, Arsenal and Manchester City have the same number of points with the goal differences. If Arsenal wins their remaining games, they have a chance to win the Premier League title this season, if they don't disappoint like they did last season.

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Liverpool manager who's bound to leave the club at the end of the current season is trying to make sure he secured the English Premier League title as one of his farewell gifts to the club"s but with their defeat at Arsenal today, winning the league title this season have become even more difficult

Jurgen Klopp wants to win the Premier League this season, his last title before he can leave the club. I didn't think Liverpool would lose any games because they are strong team that can defeat every top team in the league, but they lost against Arsenal. Liverpool lead the table with two points ahead of Manchester City and Arsenal, I don't think they have enough chance to win the championship this season; if they lose by mistake, Manchester City and Arsenal are going to overtake them.

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Quote from: püsür on February 05, 2024, 06:27:28 AM

The Arsenal team is technically very high level. Odegard, Ben White, Martinelli, Jorginho, Havertz, Saliba all have great skills, just like City, their defence is very involved in the attack. Even Raya plays because he has a better foot than Ramsdale. But instead of tactical play in the match, Arsenal was able to prevail by the big mistakes of the liverpool defence. Arteta analysed liverpool well, they played most of the match without pressing in the third zone, they gave the ball to liverpool but gave very few positions.

After the victory, Arsenal will be fined by the EPL. They got 6 yellow cards in one game. Earlier this season Chelsea and Liverpool have also been fined like this. If I'm not mistaken, they are obliged to pay 25 thousand pounds. Ben White, William Saliba, Gabriel Magalhaes, Declan Rice, and Kai Havertz, and Jakub Kiwior are the 6 players who received yellow cards. But the most favorable condition is that Man City currently still has 1 game less. Currently Arsenal has dropped to 3rd place, Liverpool also has the potential to drop because of the difference of 1 match this.

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In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defence. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.

The Liverpool team that played against Arsenal was a total shadow of what they used to be. The defence was just too sloppy that they failed to check the Arsenal defence. The first goal by Saka was a rebound which means the Liverpool defense failed to clear the ball after a good save from Alisson. The second goal by Martinelli was because of a lack of communication between Van Dijk and Allison and the last goal by Trossard happened because the defence was not proactive in stopping the fast runs from Trossard. Liverpool has about three defenders that failed to challenge the striker which gave him the chance to strike.

Jürgen Klopp has to work on his players if he wants to have a good departure gift at the end of the season. Maybe his announcement that he would be leaving the club at the end of the season has negatively affected the morale of the players.

In my opinion, this is not Liverpool's carelessness because Arsenal are really trying to maximize their performance at home and avenge their previous defeat and it's true that Arsenal really took advantage of opportunities well in that match and made Liverpool lose because they didn't have many shots on goal. I'm happy In the end Arsenal won again so that the competition between the top 3 clubs became increasingly fierce and Arsenal currently has the same points as Manchester City, but Manchester City still has 1 match yet to be played.

Jurgen Kloop has tried his best, but it can't be helped that this match is quite tough for Liverpool because Arsenal is in good form and Arsenal is also a club that is competing strongly in the race for the Premier League title so Liverpool experiencing at away defeat is not a mistake for Kloop, but yes Jurgen Kloop must train his players not to lose again because the competition is still very hot at the moment.

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Quote from: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on February 05, 2024, 12:34:49 PM

Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

The match has ended, manchester city got easy win against brentford. Even though brentford was leading the game but it's not enough for brentford to beat manchester city. Foden was scoring three goals for city which was so amazing to see that. I do like how brentford was doing so hard in defending from manchester city.
The king is back right now. Im sure city will be winning EPL again this season. The gameplay of manchester city is so crazy with haaland and de bruyne in the squad. City had so many greate attackers. It was making its opponent scared. Liverpool and arsenal must be careful caused by manchester city is going back again to lead the competition. Im feeling so confidence to see manchester city to perform better than before. I think that manchester city was the strongest team right now. Im valuing this team in higher tier compared to the liverpool and arsenal.
Im sure that if city will be taking the EPL trophy again this season. The comeback of haaland and de bruyne was also making me feel better with it. City may be getting at least two trophies this season. Im feeling confidence caused by de bruyne and haaland were there.
No reason to put city as unfavored club to win the competition this season.

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Quote from: püsür on February 05, 2024, 06:27:28 AM

The Arsenal team is technically very high level. Odegard, Ben White, Martinelli, Jorginho, Havertz, Saliba all have great skills, just like City, their defence is very involved in the attack. Even Raya plays because he has a better foot than Ramsdale. But instead of tactical play in the match, Arsenal was able to prevail by the big mistakes of the liverpool defence. Arteta analysed liverpool well, they played most of the match without pressing in the third zone, they gave the ball to liverpool but gave very few positions.

It seemed like Arsenal was out of breath before Mancity and Liverpool in the race to win the championship. But they played a very good match against a formidable opponent, Liverpool, directly dealing a strong blow to Liverpool's position. It can be said that the turning point in the match from the mistake of Van Dijk and goalkeeper Alisson Becker helped Arsenal advance. Being behind forced Liverpool to raise their squad to find an equalizer, thus creating more conditions for Arsenal to deploy their sharp counter-attack , and the third goal came as an inevitable thing, Becker continued to get caught error when closing the corner poorly.
Now, the advantage is somewhat in favor of Mancity as they still have a match to play. If they win, they will climb to 2nd place, belong with Arsenal losing 2 points to Liverpool. This year's race is extremely attractive with a continuous rotation of the leading position between Liverpool, Arsenal and Mancity.

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Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

The match will soon be starting. Manchester City are in a position where they are not supposed to lose any matches currently. They will be playing against Brentford, and they will want to do everything possible to win the match. As we can see, Brentford is not really a strong club, and their performance is not really good this season, so they shouldn’t give Manchester City a difficult time in the match.

Manchester City went on a rampage in this second half after the first half they were quite troubled to face Brentford with their total defense scheme and even could only score a goal back in stoppage time but for the second half it seems they don't want to do the same.
Pep is increasingly aggressively giving instructions for his players to be more offensive and that makes Brentford's defense which is actually quite good must experience obstacles where they are troubled in anticipating the wave of attacks that continue to be launched by Manchester City players.
Haaland's movement was a little hampered because he was tightly guarded but instead it became a blessing because other players became a little loose in terms of guarding and Foden really gave his best performance in this match.
The hat trick he scored was perfect and I think this was an absolute victory for Manchester City and a very good comeback.

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Quote from: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on February 05, 2024, 12:34:49 PM

Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

The match will soon be starting. Manchester City are in a position where they are not supposed to lose any matches currently. They will be playing against Brentford, and they will want to do everything possible to win the match. As we can see, Brentford is not really a strong club, and their performance is not really good this season, so they shouldn’t give Manchester City a difficult time in the match.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 05, 2024, 02:01:50 PM

I’m disappointed in Liverpool yesterday but we hadn’t lost in the league since September and Salah was out. We will regroup and put Burnley to the sword on Saturday.

The outcome of yesterday’s match was surprising. I thought the match was going to be tough, but I was surprised that Arsenal was able to score three goals in the match. Liverpool's next match will be against Burnley. I don’t even think Burnley has any chances in the match, they will do everything possible to comfortably win the match.

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Quote from: bots1 on February 05, 2024, 09:36:00 AM

In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defence. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.

The Liverpool team that played against Arsenal was a total shadow of what they used to be. The defence was just too sloppy that they failed to check the Arsenal defence. The first goal by Saka was a rebound which means the Liverpool defense failed to clear the ball after a good save from Alisson. The second goal by Martinelli was because of a lack of communication between Van Dijk and Allison and the last goal by Trossard happened because the defence was not proactive in stopping the fast runs from Trossard. Liverpool has about three defenders that failed to challenge the striker which gave him the chance to strike.

Jürgen Klopp has to work on his players if he wants to have a good departure gift at the end of the season. Maybe his announcement that he would be leaving the club at the end of the season has negatively affected the morale of the players.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 05, 2024, 02:01:50 PM

Fully expect Man City to take advantage of Liverpool’s slip up yesterday and destroy Brentford tonight. This is the time of every season under Pep where they rattle off 10+ consecutive victories to really swing the title pendulum in their favour.

I’m disappointed in Liverpool yesterday but we hadn’t lost in the league since September and Salah was out. We will regroup and put Burnley to the sword on Saturday.

This will definitely be interesting because currently Manchester City are still 5 points behind Liverpool but with the advantage they have where they currently still have 2 matches (including today's match) makes Manchester City have a positive thing because to catch up with Liverpool they only have to maximize these 2 matches well so that their situation in the standings can compete again in the race for the EPL trophy.
Liverpool's defeat yesterday became a blessing in itself in this case because after all, with Liverpool's defeat apart from Arsenal who managed to approach Manchester City also has a great chance to continue to compete in the race for the trophy this season.

Facing Brentford in 1 hour they already look very favorite even though we know that Brentford sometimes always gives extraordinary surprises but still if we talk about conditions and advantages to date Manchester City is an undisputed favorite even though this is an away match for them.
Currently, with the arrival of several players such as KDB and Doku in Manchester City's midfield, their breakout power is getting stronger. In addition, it is likely that Haaland has also prepared in this regard and allows with a complete squad I think there is no doubt for 3 points in today's match.

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Fully expect Man City to take advantage of Liverpool’s slip up yesterday and destroy Brentford tonight. This is the time of every season under Pep where they rattle off 10+ consecutive victories to really swing the title pendulum in their favour.

I’m disappointed in Liverpool yesterday but we hadn’t lost in the league since September and Salah was out. We will regroup and put Burnley to the sword on Saturday.

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Quote from: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on February 05, 2024, 12:34:49 PM

Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

Betting on Manchester City is a wise choice right now considering that Arsenal managed to beat Liverpool yesterday. Manchester City will be in second place if they manage to beat Brentford because their GD will be greater than Arsenal. Apart from that another consideration is that they have a 2 game deficit, which means they should be in first place if they manage to wipe out their deficit.

Bookies themselves give @1.36 for Manchester City to win in the 1X2 bet, while for handicap bookies give @1.93 for Manchester City -1.5. I don't think it's too worrying because I'm sure Manchester City will do that.

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In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defense. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.

The game seemed so tactical with both teams played with careful and slow pace at building attacks. The game took a turn due to unfortunate mistakes by Alisson and Van Dijk, which significantly impacted the outcome. The situation worsened for Liverpool when Ibrahima Konaté received a red card, putting them at a numerical disadvantage. The Premier League competition is undeniably becoming tighter, especially with the thin points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester City.

The fact that Manchester City still has two matches left to play adds an additional layer of suspense. If they manage to secure victories in these two matches, they could potentially move to the top of the standings, just one point ahead of Liverpool. The unpredictability of football and the competitive nature of the Premier League make every match crucial for the title race. Fans can expect an intense battle as the season progresses, with the potential for frequent changes in the standings.

The situation has got very interesting for sure. If we talk about goalkeepers first, I will have to say that a goalkeeper can make mistakes under pressure. And he is also the most important player for a team. It is easy to replace almost any other player unless they are Lionel Messi or Christiano Ronaldo. But it is very hard to replace a goalkeeper. Of course, we can understand that by watching the goalkeeper of Manchester United.

No, Manchester City having two matches left that's definitely made it interesting. What if Liverpool and Arsenal cannot be very consistent? It will be a matter of time before Manchester City gets back on the first position.

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Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

Nothing will stop me not to watch this game to see how many goals Manchester city will achieve from Brentford because, I don't think Brentford will have the strength to withstand Manchester city in this game today but anything can happen that will make the game to change for the favour of Brentford or Manchester city. Brentford is a weak team and it will give Manchester city the opportunity to win 3 points from this game without using too much strength to fight Brentford because, even though the game will going to change, it will be for the favour of Manchester city to remain in 3rd position.

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Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

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In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defense. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.

The game seemed so tactical with both teams played with careful and slow pace at building attacks. The game took a turn due to unfortunate mistakes by Alisson and Van Dijk, which significantly impacted the outcome. The situation worsened for Liverpool when Ibrahima Konaté received a red card, putting them at a numerical disadvantage. The Premier League competition is undeniably becoming tighter, especially with the thin points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester City.

The fact that Manchester City still has two matches left to play adds an additional layer of suspense. If they manage to secure victories in these two matches, they could potentially move to the top of the standings, just one point ahead of Liverpool. The unpredictability of football and the competitive nature of the Premier League make every match crucial for the title race. Fans can expect an intense battle as the season progresses, with the potential for frequent changes in the standings.

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