Topic: President Trump wears a mask for the first time yesterday! (Read 245 times)

Quote from: akram143 on July 17, 2020, 02:28:01 AM

Did you ever see or hear of a doctor going into surgery without a mask Doctors and nurses wear masks to keep from infecting weak, sick people with germs that they, the medical people, have, and have already built immune system immunity to.

That's all that Trump was doing. He was visiting some sick and elderly service people. And he was protecting them from diseases he might have, just the way doctors and nurses do in the operating room.

Btw, if you don't trade your mask for a new one every two hours or so, your old mask becomes a haven for all kinds of bacteria and viruses that grow in the mask. Trade it in for a new one, or at least wash it, or you will be infecting a whole lot more people (yourself included) than if you hadn't worn the mask in the first place.

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So this year is the heaven for facemask manufacturers. Cheesy

Honestly wearing mask doesn't gives us complete protection then why everyone suggesting to wear one, it better to impose complete PPE rule so there will be no more spreads. Tongue

I have been saving a load of money on breath mints, because all those jokers behind the masks can't smell my breath anyway.

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Quote from: samputin on July 16, 2020, 06:22:11 PM

Quote from: akram143 on July 16, 2020, 09:18:20 AM

Not complete protection, but it does HELP to LIMIT the amount of particles that you're spewing in the air. So that does something in helping the curve come down.

Size of corona virus still less than the pores of masks we are using so definitely it is going to do more hamr than good because wearing mask increases the chance of virus to live in the mask itself so later it will get into any of the holes we have in our body and people keep using the same mask all the time which is definitely lead us to be infected.

Well, if that's the case (using the same mask repeatedly), then there's really a chance that they'll get the virus.

Here in our country, we're told to wear mask every time that we're going out of our home. But upon returning, it is necessary to dispose the mask immediately (if it's a disposable one) and if it's washable, then separate it from other things and wash it as soon as possible.

When people don't even have money to feed themselves how can we expect them to wear the N 95 mask every time and ask them to dispose every 2 or 3 hour usage. Roll Eyes

That's the issue of government and not handing out masks though. I'm assuming that MANY local governments have mask and food drives. I'd assume if you called up your country / town / state government and said that you were having issues getting a mask, someone would have it dropped off for you.

Plus the extension of unemployment benefits, food stamps, and so on and so forth will help you get your hands on these sorts of products. The crazy crazy prices were present in the beginning, but now buying masks really isn't that expensive.

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Quote from: Astargath on July 15, 2020, 02:33:59 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on July 13, 2020, 01:25:41 PM

Quote from: Astargath on July 13, 2020, 12:45:16 PM

Who cares lol. 'Experts' said numerous times that masks were useless.

masks are about containing not protecting from the virus. they are meant to prevent those that are infected to infect others

Yea but, this is what the WHO said initially in March: ''there is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly," Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO

After statements like those, it's hard to really trust anything they say mate.

... Then they walked back the claim when they noticed that it was wrong. It's indicative of being smart in showing that you're able to change your opinion as new evidence pretenses itself. Fauci said the same thing back then, then he altered his opinion when he noticed that he was wrong.

Quote from: samputin on July 16, 2020, 06:22:11 PM

Did you ever see or hear of a doctor going into surgery without a mask Doctors and nurses wear masks to keep from infecting weak, sick people with germs that they, the medical people, have, and have already built immune system immunity to.

That's all that Trump was doing. He was visiting some sick and elderly service people. And he was protecting them from diseases he might have, just the way doctors and nurses do in the operating room.

Btw, if you don't trade your mask for a new one every two hours or so, your old mask becomes a haven for all kinds of bacteria and viruses that grow in the mask. Trade it in for a new one, or at least wash it, or you will be infecting a whole lot more people (yourself included) than if you hadn't worn the mask in the first place.

Cool

So this year is the heaven for facemask manufacturers. Cheesy

Honestly wearing mask doesn't gives us complete protection then why everyone suggesting to wear one, it better to impose complete PPE rule so there will be no more spreads. Tongue

Not complete protection, but it does HELP to LIMIT the amount of particles that you're spewing in the air. So that does something in helping the curve come down.

'Then they walked back the claim when they noticed that it was wrong.' How can it be wrong when it was based on scientific evidence that still says the same thing now in new studies? Where are all those definitive studies showing that masks are effective enough to force people to wear them?

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Quote from: akram143 on July 16, 2020, 09:18:20 AM

Quote from: Astargath on July 13, 2020, 12:45:16 PM

Not complete protection, but it does HELP to LIMIT the amount of particles that you're spewing in the air. So that does something in helping the curve come down.

Size of corona virus still less than the pores of masks we are using so definitely it is going to do more hamr than good because wearing mask increases the chance of virus to live in the mask itself so later it will get into any of the holes we have in our body and people keep using the same mask all the time which is definitely lead us to be infected.

Well, if that's the case (using the same mask repeatedly), then there's really a chance that they'll get the virus.

Here in our country, we're told to wear mask every time that we're going out of our home. But upon returning, it is necessary to dispose the mask immediately (if it's a disposable one) and if it's washable, then separate it from other things and wash it as soon as possible.

When people don't even have money to feed themselves how can we expect them to wear the N 95 mask every time and ask them to dispose every 2 or 3 hour usage. Roll Eyes

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Who cares lol. 'Experts' said numerous times that masks were useless.

Masks were "useless" when there weren't enough to go around and medical professionals were struggling to get them. They lied to keep them for themselves and avoid panic when there was a complete shortage, we didn't have a stockpile prepared in advance for something like this. Evidence always showed masks were useful but professionals will always lie when convenient to protect themselves first.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 16, 2020, 09:18:20 AM

Not complete protection, but it does HELP to LIMIT the amount of particles that you're spewing in the air. So that does something in helping the curve come down.

Size of corona virus still less than the pores of masks we are using so definitely it is going to do more hamr than good because wearing mask increases the chance of virus to live in the mask itself so later it will get into any of the holes we have in our body and people keep using the same mask all the time which is definitely lead us to be infected.

Well, if that's the case (using the same mask repeatedly), then there's really a chance that they'll get the virus.

Here in our country, we're told to wear mask every time that we're going out of our home. But upon returning, it is necessary to dispose the mask immediately (if it's a disposable one) and if it's washable, then separate it from other things and wash it as soon as possible.

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President Trump wears a mask for the first time yesterday!

It is amazing that it took him only 7 months to realise masks are useful. That taught us that he can learn after all. HE is slow at learning, but he can do it. If only USA would allow 4 presidential terms, he might start being good president on his 4th try 12 years from now.

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Quote from: squatz1 on July 14, 2020, 01:43:33 PM

Not complete protection, but it does HELP to LIMIT the amount of particles that you're spewing in the air. So that does something in helping the curve come down.

Size of corona virus still less than the pores of masks we are using so definitely it is going to do more hamr than good because wearing mask increases the chance of virus to live in the mask itself so later it will get into any of the holes we have in our body and people keep using the same mask all the time which is definitely lead us to be infected.

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As we know, one mask can't protect a person from coronavirus. If we want to have full protection, we need to use safety goggles and gloves with the mask. If you look carefully, you will notice that politicians and celebrities do not use protection in complex, and wear only one mask. It is as if they do not care about their health or they know more than we do.

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Quote from: Viper1 on July 13, 2020, 01:44:06 PM

But yesterday Donald Trump wore a mask in public for the first time

People have such short memories despite this obsession with him and the damn mask.

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Damn you're right. Not going to change anything here as this was my messup, but I really did fall into a bit of the media circus that is Trump/ Coronavirus and mask wearing.

Though I think a better headline to use for this would've been something along the lines of 'haven't worn a mask in public for months now' but that doesn't garner as many clicks for news companies.

@squatz1 it’s not your fault as these days Media is all about clickbait titles, as that helps them attract traffic and then they make money by monetising that traffic so don’t be so harsh on yourself.

Quote from: Astargath on July 15, 2020, 02:33:59 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on July 13, 2020, 01:25:41 PM

Quote from: Astargath on July 13, 2020, 12:45:16 PM

Who cares lol. 'Experts' said numerous times that masks were useless.

masks are about containing not protecting from the virus. they are meant to prevent those that are infected to infect others

Yea but, this is what the WHO said initially in March: ''there is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly," Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO

After statements like those, it's hard to really trust anything they say mate.

... Then they walked back the claim when they noticed that it was wrong. It's indicative of being smart in showing that you're able to change your opinion as new evidence pretenses itself. Fauci said the same thing back then, then he altered his opinion when he noticed that he was wrong.

Quote from: Astargath on July 15, 2020, 02:33:59 PM

Did you ever see or hear of a doctor going into surgery without a mask Doctors and nurses wear masks to keep from infecting weak, sick people with germs that they, the medical people, have, and have already built immune system immunity to.

That's all that Trump was doing. He was visiting some sick and elderly service people. And he was protecting them from diseases he might have, just the way doctors and nurses do in the operating room.

Btw, if you don't trade your mask for a new one every two hours or so, your old mask becomes a haven for all kinds of bacteria and viruses that grow in the mask. Trade it in for a new one, or at least wash it, or you will be infecting a whole lot more people (yourself included) than if you hadn't worn the mask in the first place.

Cool

So this year is the heaven for facemask manufacturers. Cheesy

Honestly wearing mask doesn't gives us complete protection then why everyone suggesting to wear one, it better to impose complete PPE rule so there will be no more spreads. Tongue

Not complete protection, but it does HELP to LIMIT the amount of particles that you're spewing in the air. So that does something in helping the curve come down.

Further cotton masks are definitely ineffective against corona and one should avoid wearing them, and till date many experts have different opinions about face masks, hence it’s best to follow Qatar airplanes lead and use face mask along with face shields.

Sources:

https://www.livescience.com/are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronavirus-spread.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tamarathiessen/2020/07/14/air-travel-qatar-airways-face-shield-mask/#cc325fb2110e

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Quote from: KingScorpio on July 13, 2020, 01:25:41 PM

Quote from: Astargath on July 13, 2020, 12:45:16 PM

Who cares lol. 'Experts' said numerous times that masks were useless.

masks are about containing not protecting from the virus. they are meant to prevent those that are infected to infect others

Yea but, this is what the WHO said initially in March: ''there is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly," Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO

After statements like those, it's hard to really trust anything they say mate.

... Then they walked back the claim when they noticed that it was wrong. It's indicative of being smart in showing that you're able to change your opinion as new evidence pretenses itself. Fauci said the same thing back then, then he altered his opinion when he noticed that he was wrong.

Did you ever see or hear of a doctor going into surgery without a mask Doctors and nurses wear masks to keep from infecting weak, sick people with germs that they, the medical people, have, and have already built immune system immunity to.

That's all that Trump was doing. He was visiting some sick and elderly service people. And he was protecting them from diseases he might have, just the way doctors and nurses do in the operating room.

Btw, if you don't trade your mask for a new one every two hours or so, your old mask becomes a haven for all kinds of bacteria and viruses that grow in the mask. Trade it in for a new one, or at least wash it, or you will be infecting a whole lot more people (yourself included) than if you hadn't worn the mask in the first place.

Cool

So this year is the heaven for facemask manufacturers. Cheesy

Honestly wearing mask doesn't gives us complete protection then why everyone suggesting to wear one, it better to impose complete PPE rule so there will be no more spreads. Tongue

Not complete protection, but it does HELP to LIMIT the amount of particles that you're spewing in the air. So that does something in helping the curve come down.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on July 13, 2020, 01:25:41 PM

Did you ever see or hear of a doctor going into surgery without a mask Doctors and nurses wear masks to keep from infecting weak, sick people with germs that they, the medical people, have, and have already built immune system immunity to.

That's all that Trump was doing. He was visiting some sick and elderly service people. And he was protecting them from diseases he might have, just the way doctors and nurses do in the operating room.

Btw, if you don't trade your mask for a new one every two hours or so, your old mask becomes a haven for all kinds of bacteria and viruses that grow in the mask. Trade it in for a new one, or at least wash it, or you will be infecting a whole lot more people (yourself included) than if you hadn't worn the mask in the first place.

Cool

So this year is the heaven for facemask manufacturers. Cheesy

Honestly wearing mask doesn't gives us complete protection then why everyone suggesting to wear one, it better to impose complete PPE rule so there will be no more spreads. Tongue

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Did you ever see or hear of a doctor going into surgery without a mask Doctors and nurses wear masks to keep from infecting weak, sick people with germs that they, the medical people, have, and have already built immune system immunity to.

That's all that Trump was doing. He was visiting some sick and elderly service people. And he was protecting them from diseases he might have, just the way doctors and nurses do in the operating room.

Btw, if you don't trade your mask for a new one every two hours or so, your old mask becomes a haven for all kinds of bacteria and viruses that grow in the mask. Trade it in for a new one, or at least wash it, or you will be infecting a whole lot more people (yourself included) than if you hadn't worn the mask in the first place.

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Quote from: Astargath on July 13, 2020, 12:45:16 PM

Who cares lol. 'Experts' said numerous times that masks were useless.

masks are about containing not protecting from the virus. they are meant to prevent those that are infected to infect others

Yea but, this is what the WHO said initially in March: ''there is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly," Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO

After statements like those, it's hard to really trust anything they say mate.

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That is good for a change but i still see many world leaders without the masks so either they have been assured of not being infected (which is not possible) or they have already got vaccinated. What else could be the reason of their confidence? When every country is implementing SOPs and mask is compulsory?

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Quote from: Viper1 on July 13, 2020, 01:44:06 PM

But yesterday Donald Trump wore a mask in public for the first time

People have such short memories despite this obsession with him and the damn mask.

May 21st at the Ford Plant
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1263654664655994881

Damn you're right. Not going to change anything here as this was my messup, but I really did fall into a bit of the media circus that is Trump/ Coronavirus and mask wearing.

Though I think a better headline to use for this would've been something along the lines of 'haven't worn a mask in public for months now' but that doesn't garner as many clicks for news companies.

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