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October 04, 2023, 10:26:23 PM
#58
I'm very interested in privacy coins. With all the speculation about government involvement in regulation, I believe lots of people will gravitate towards Privacy. What are your thoughts on the different privacy coins available? Obviously Monero is established, Verge seems to be having on the up and up, and I've heard very good things about the tech behind DeepOnion. Any thoughts on these coins or any other privacy coins?
I think there is a good project called Aztec network. It is a layer 2 project. Aztec network is all about privacy. But no token yet. They have funding around 120M. Currently they are developing Aztec network developer tools. After that there will be few Dapps coming to the Aztec ecosystem.
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October 04, 2023, 09:16:24 AM
#57
I am super barish on privacy coins, not because they aren't useful, but because regulations have been killing them. Only a few privacy coins were pumping in last year's bull market, and big exchanges are delisting privacy coins regularly. Even the new generation of privacy coins never saw the hype. These are huge layer-one block chains that enable private smart contracts, but their trading volumes are super low. Privacy coins need to move to decentralized exchanges, or eventually they will all be delisted. There is a public secret that these coins are being used for terrorism and something shady. That's why governments are more cautious about these coins.
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August 26, 2023, 10:16:04 PM
#56
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though.  



XSPEC is now called ALIAS.  Yes it is a great coin, but only if the team had enough money to market it, but it is a great privacy coin with great tech.  Verge is now ICO 20022 compliant, so that is one to diversify with also.


Sincerely,  GlobalProtection - Canadian Citizen living in Belize now
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March 24, 2018, 01:46:28 AM
#55
I'm very interested in privacy coins. With all the speculation about government involvement in regulation, I believe lots of people will gravitate towards Privacy. What are your thoughts on the different privacy coins available? Obviously Monero is established, Verge seems to be having on the up and up, and I've heard very good things about the tech behind DeepOnion. Any thoughts on these coins or any other privacy coins?
Now there is generally no restriction and regulation, and every second coin seeks to make it the most confessional, but as we see sometimes it does not work. Close all the holes will not work, even bitcoin and then you can track your wallet and then everything else. This concept is relative and should not be trusted completely.
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March 24, 2018, 01:04:12 AM
#54
hi guys what is privacy coins? im newbie Smiley
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March 24, 2018, 12:28:52 AM
#53
Monero: King of Privacy
Zcash: Another good privacy coin backed by Russia and uni professors
Verge: Stay far far away from this
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March 23, 2018, 11:39:13 PM
#52
One of the key components for any coin's success is the community, which is why XMR is king in this space at the moment. DeepOnion are trying hard to develop community with their airdrops.
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February 01, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
#51
MOIN is a very low market cap privacy coin.
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February 01, 2018, 08:28:13 AM
#50
Spectrecoin (XSPEC) best privacy coin

totally agree with you
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February 01, 2018, 08:27:01 AM
#49
I'm very interested in privacy coins. With all the speculation about government involvement in regulation, I believe lots of people will gravitate towards Privacy. What are your thoughts on the different privacy coins available? Obviously Monero is established, Verge seems to be having on the up and up, and I've heard very good things about the tech behind DeepOnion. Any thoughts on these coins or any other privacy coins?

This is what I thought too, 2018 is going to be the year of regulation for cryptocurrency. The future is very bright for all the anonymous coins. Monero is my number one pick because the marketcap is very high so I think it's more stable than the other small coins like Deeponion. Also Deeponion's bounty is going to end very soon I expect the price will go down because people will stop talking about this coin. Monero on the other hand doesn't need to pay people to shill it, the price will go up organically.
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February 01, 2018, 08:13:18 AM
#48
zoin is also a good coin.
https://zoinofficial.com
check it out.
Community built, Privacy driven
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February 01, 2018, 06:33:54 AM
#47
when it comes to "Privacy Coin", "ZCOIN" is what I am holding as a privacy coin for long-term, have made masternode too, since I don't plan to sell it any time soon.

feel free to download and install the wallet to experience the tech, mint/zerocoin features.
check it out yourself to understand it further [ https://zcoin.io/tech/ ]

Checked it out, but the only POS Privacy coin with a roadmap implementing fully anonymous staking and transactions is Spectrecoin. Masternodes are centralized and are certainly not private, just saying. 
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January 30, 2018, 08:00:55 PM
#46
I'm very interested in privacy coins. With all the speculation about government involvement in regulation, I believe lots of people will gravitate towards Privacy. What are your thoughts on the different privacy coins available? Obviously Monero is established, Verge seems to be having on the up and up, and I've heard very good things about the tech behind DeepOnion. Any thoughts on these coins or any other privacy coins?
I do not have much experience with personal pennies. I can talk to anyone about this area. To hold a valuable coin and turn it into a personal coin like? I am keeping some valuable coins who I need to buy I will sell. Reasonable price.
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January 30, 2018, 06:06:22 PM
#45
If you are looking for a secure crypto currency, the waves are for you. The team is made up of very professional people
waves are very successful in this regard
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January 27, 2018, 01:52:55 AM
#44
Depends on what risk you want. Go with Monero for low risk and low steady profit, or try Spectrecoin for potential great profit, but higher risk. Just keep away from Verge.

100% this. Hope anyone reading does their own research. Hopefully once XSPEC proves itself we won't have so much FUD spam. Monero is a very good coin, sucks that some outliers in their community have to make them look bad.
XSPEC is a very good altcoin, it has had a fairly strong price increase a few weeks ago and is currently stable at $ 4. I have researched and invested in XSPEC deaths very early and I am still keeping it. I think that XSPEC can definitely increase in the coming time after the market rebound, I quite trust XSPEC strategy despite the recent bad news about it.

and what bad news you refering to?
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January 27, 2018, 01:32:15 AM
#43
Depends on what risk you want. Go with Monero for low risk and low steady profit, or try Spectrecoin for potential great profit, but higher risk. Just keep away from Verge.

100% this. Hope anyone reading does their own research. Hopefully once XSPEC proves itself we won't have so much FUD spam. Monero is a very good coin, sucks that some outliers in their community have to make them look bad.
XSPEC is a very good altcoin, it has had a fairly strong price increase a few weeks ago and is currently stable at $ 4. I have researched and invested in XSPEC deaths very early and I am still keeping it. I think that XSPEC can definitely increase in the coming time after the market rebound, I quite trust XSPEC strategy despite the recent bad news about it.
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January 27, 2018, 01:27:58 AM
#42
Spectrecoin (XSPEC) best privacy coin
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January 27, 2018, 01:04:04 AM
#41
when it comes to "Privacy Coin", "ZCOIN" is what I am holding as a privacy coin for long-term, have made masternode too, since I don't plan to sell it any time soon.

feel free to download and install the wallet to experience the tech, mint/zerocoin features.
check it out yourself to understand it further [ https://zcoin.io/tech/ ]
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January 26, 2018, 04:28:33 PM
#40
if you are interested in a privacy oriented cryptocurrency take a look at navcoin, it could explode in the next weeks, it has a low supply and  a cheap price, i could see a 5x in the next monts. they have just released the roadmap for 2018 and they will launch the ios wallet soon, i'm very optimistic about that
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January 26, 2018, 04:07:06 PM
#39
Depends on what risk you want. Go with Monero for low risk and low steady profit, or try Spectrecoin for potential great profit, but higher risk. Just keep away from Verge.

100% this. Hope anyone reading does their own research. Hopefully once XSPEC proves itself we won't have so much FUD spam. Monero is a very good coin, sucks that some outliers in their community have to make them look bad.
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January 26, 2018, 04:00:41 PM
#38
Depends on what risk you want. Go with Monero for low risk and low steady profit, or try Spectrecoin for potential great profit, but higher risk. Just keep away from Verge.
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January 26, 2018, 03:50:27 PM
#37
You're obviously biased towards Monero. You're not being honest with us. SpectreCoin is not a scam. You have an agenda against it.
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January 26, 2018, 03:42:43 PM
#36
Current   = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

Thanks for the input KimJunkPuke,

Seems like calculating price for you is easier than actually researching real tech behind more than 1 year old project

Once you see shitcoins being spammed on forums, you know in your that the "tech" holds the shitcoin badge before even looking at it.  Then, once you look at it, you see that the tech is also shit.

You asked for predictions, that's my prediction.  Mid-Jan all coins will drop (once kids stop investing their Christmas money) then the coin will fail.  The market will get leaner, and shitcoins will be pushed out.  !remindme 3months.


This is equivalent to penny stocks back in the day, now it's shitcoins trying to scam people into making a quick buck.  My prediction still holds.


Your predictions are already shit, Kim. Shouldn't it have failed right now like you proclaimed? It rose to a high of $6 in the beginning of January when you said it would be $1.20. Its not even close to that right now even with the drop. Man, if you're this bad predicting the price of a so-called "shit-coin", why would anyone trust you on it being a scam? We've got two more months for your "reminder". Can't wait for that too.


Trying to save face after getting proved wrong eh?  I feel bad for you being scammed.

No, I was just showing you that you were wrong since you just LOVE being right. !remindme 3 months  Huh

Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by. Keep spamming the forums, once 2.0 releases you'll have to eat a lot of what you've said. Until then, anyone can go to the XSPEC website and look at the FAQ.


I mean, one of the DEVs basically confirmed what I said so... yeah, you're wrong.  Haha.  You can't say anything now can ya?

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Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by.

And I don't actually own any monero believe it or not and this is my only account.  Message the mods to confirm if ya like that this is the only IP I post from and this is my only account.  Since I can tell you're a conspiracy theorist, I pray to god I don't see you post over at the Flat Earth Society.

Just curious, who was the dev that confirmed what you said? Cause I don't think anyone developer confirmed that the price was going to go down to $1.20 like you said.

So what you're saying is you've just lurked the Monero board for no reason, decided to a respond to a user joking about DPRK with a freshly made account, constantly shit on XSPEC when someone came into the Monero board talking about it... but this is your only account?

Still no news on the x2 spike?  Just more crazy Korean antics?

I think DPRK may have realized that traceable linkable bitcoin is not going to do the trick for them.

Maybe... maybe not.

Call it what you are: a Monero shill. You claim to be a white knight trying to save people from the "scam" that XSPEC is but thats such a lame excuse. You should just post openly about XSPEC on your main account if you really want to have an honest conversation about what is or isn't a scam. Only Sith's deal in absolutes and you're the only one here that won't tell people do research for themselves. I highly suggest anyone compare the aspects of Monero vs Spectrecoin and see which one suits them best for whatever investment they're trying to make. No one here is forcing XSPEC on anyone, but you're forcing scam accusations down people's throats on any thread involving XSPEC.


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just curious, who was the dev that confirmed what you said?

Scroll up bud, I can't hold your hand for everything.  There is a richlist, public blockchain, and the top 1000 holders hold over 99% of the coins.  This isn't a lie, open your eyes.  It's a coin with privacy features, not a privacy coin (confirmed).


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So what you're saying is you've just lurked the Monero board for no reason, decided to a respond to a user joking about DPRK with a freshly made account, constantly shit on XSPEC when someone came into the Monero board talking about it... but this is your only account?

I lurk other threads also and post on other threads also, as I do with most coins.  One out of context post to try and saveface for XSPECS lack of privacy is laughable.  As I said, I don't own any Monero.


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Call it what you are: a Monero shill. You claim to be a white knight trying to save people from the "scam" that XSPEC is but thats such a lame excuse. You should just post openly about XSPEC on your main account if you really want to have an honest conversation about what is or isn't a scam. Only Sith's deal in absolutes and you're the only one here that won't tell people do research for themselves. I highly suggest anyone compare the aspects of Monero vs Spectrecoin and see which one suits them best for whatever investment they're trying to make. No one here is forcing XSPEC on anyone, but you're forcing scam accusations down people's throats on any thread involving XSPEC.


It's a scam to call it a privacy coin.  It's bitcoin with optional privacy featuers.  When the time comes that it has the standards that coins had years back when it comes to privacy, then we can.

Summon a mod let him confirm this is my only account and the only IP I ever post from.  I'm sure everyone would be interested if everyone in this thread have alt accounts! Wink  Jesus man you're really in denial and hurt over people calling out this coin for what it is (SCAM)
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January 26, 2018, 03:32:00 PM
#35
Current   = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

Thanks for the input KimJunkPuke,

Seems like calculating price for you is easier than actually researching real tech behind more than 1 year old project

Once you see shitcoins being spammed on forums, you know in your that the "tech" holds the shitcoin badge before even looking at it.  Then, once you look at it, you see that the tech is also shit.

You asked for predictions, that's my prediction.  Mid-Jan all coins will drop (once kids stop investing their Christmas money) then the coin will fail.  The market will get leaner, and shitcoins will be pushed out.  !remindme 3months.


This is equivalent to penny stocks back in the day, now it's shitcoins trying to scam people into making a quick buck.  My prediction still holds.


Your predictions are already shit, Kim. Shouldn't it have failed right now like you proclaimed? It rose to a high of $6 in the beginning of January when you said it would be $1.20. Its not even close to that right now even with the drop. Man, if you're this bad predicting the price of a so-called "shit-coin", why would anyone trust you on it being a scam? We've got two more months for your "reminder". Can't wait for that too.


Trying to save face after getting proved wrong eh?  I feel bad for you being scammed.

No, I was just showing you that you were wrong since you just LOVE being right. !remindme 3 months  Huh

Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by. Keep spamming the forums, once 2.0 releases you'll have to eat a lot of what you've said. Until then, anyone can go to the XSPEC website and look at the FAQ.


I mean, one of the DEVs basically confirmed what I said so... yeah, you're wrong.  Haha.  You can't say anything now can ya?

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Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by.

And I don't actually own any monero believe it or not and this is my only account.  Message the mods to confirm if ya like that this is the only IP I post from and this is my only account.  Since I can tell you're a conspiracy theorist, I pray to god I don't see you post over at the Flat Earth Society.

You must be using reverse psychology on us, calling XSPEC scam but what you actually want is to promote it so it would grab people's attention.

But if you actually really mean to FUD SpectreCoin, and that as you claim is your only account, judging from your posts, you must really be a sad, lonely person.
No normal human would waste so much time FUDDING a coin like you do.
You're not giving a warning to people, you're actually aggressively attacking a coin. No one has been scammed by SpectreCoin, so you must have some other agenda. Your own actions have made you lose all credibility.
I have reported you for trolling and not contributing to the community.


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You must be using reverse psychology on us, calling XSPEC scam but what you actually want is to promote it so it would grab people's attention.

I didn't do that, the coin is promoted as a privacy coin when in reality it's a bitcoin with privacy features.  No better than Verge lol.


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But if you actually really mean to FUD SpectreCoin, and that as you claim is your only account, judging from your posts, you must really be a sad, lonely person.

I have a bunch of free time, my jobs pretty easy to be honest.  When you have a top education from a top university, there's plenty of money and time.  Let that be a lesson to all you kids.

I hope mods clean up alt accounts for everyone to be honest, hopefully the people spamming this scam coin XSPEC will get banned with their multiple accounts.  And yes, this is my only account as mods can confirm lol.  I joined this forum because I lurk and saw broken English speakers spamming this shitcoin on other coins threads trying to pump up their shitcoin, and I decided to call out this coin for what it is and that it is a scam.  I did it to prevent people from losing money on something they don't understand.  I mean, I had one guy PM me threatening WAR on me because I called out this coin for being a scam (which it is).  Hilarious the kids you come across.

Good times.


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January 26, 2018, 03:29:33 PM
#34
Current   = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

Thanks for the input KimJunkPuke,

Seems like calculating price for you is easier than actually researching real tech behind more than 1 year old project

Once you see shitcoins being spammed on forums, you know in your that the "tech" holds the shitcoin badge before even looking at it.  Then, once you look at it, you see that the tech is also shit.

You asked for predictions, that's my prediction.  Mid-Jan all coins will drop (once kids stop investing their Christmas money) then the coin will fail.  The market will get leaner, and shitcoins will be pushed out.  !remindme 3months.


This is equivalent to penny stocks back in the day, now it's shitcoins trying to scam people into making a quick buck.  My prediction still holds.


Your predictions are already shit, Kim. Shouldn't it have failed right now like you proclaimed? It rose to a high of $6 in the beginning of January when you said it would be $1.20. Its not even close to that right now even with the drop. Man, if you're this bad predicting the price of a so-called "shit-coin", why would anyone trust you on it being a scam? We've got two more months for your "reminder". Can't wait for that too.


Trying to save face after getting proved wrong eh?  I feel bad for you being scammed.

No, I was just showing you that you were wrong since you just LOVE being right. !remindme 3 months  Huh

Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by. Keep spamming the forums, once 2.0 releases you'll have to eat a lot of what you've said. Until then, anyone can go to the XSPEC website and look at the FAQ.


I mean, one of the DEVs basically confirmed what I said so... yeah, you're wrong.  Haha.  You can't say anything now can ya?

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Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by.

And I don't actually own any monero believe it or not and this is my only account.  Message the mods to confirm if ya like that this is the only IP I post from and this is my only account.  Since I can tell you're a conspiracy theorist, I pray to god I don't see you post over at the Flat Earth Society.

Just curious, who was the dev that confirmed what you said? Cause I don't think anyone developer confirmed that the price was going to go down to $1.20 like you said.

So what you're saying is you've just lurked the Monero board for no reason, decided to a respond to a user joking about DPRK with a freshly made account, constantly shit on XSPEC when someone came into the Monero board talking about it... but this is your only account?

Still no news on the x2 spike?  Just more crazy Korean antics?

I think DPRK may have realized that traceable linkable bitcoin is not going to do the trick for them.

Maybe... maybe not.

Call it what you are: a Monero shill. You claim to be a white knight trying to save people from the "scam" that XSPEC is but thats such a lame excuse. You should just post openly about XSPEC on your main account if you really want to have an honest conversation about what is or isn't a scam. Only Sith's deal in absolutes and you're the only one here that won't tell people do research for themselves. I highly suggest anyone compare the aspects of Monero vs Spectrecoin and see which one suits them best for whatever investment they're trying to make. No one here is forcing XSPEC on anyone, but you're forcing scam accusations down people's throats on any thread involving XSPEC.
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January 26, 2018, 03:19:14 PM
#33
Current   = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

Thanks for the input KimJunkPuke,

Seems like calculating price for you is easier than actually researching real tech behind more than 1 year old project

Once you see shitcoins being spammed on forums, you know in your that the "tech" holds the shitcoin badge before even looking at it.  Then, once you look at it, you see that the tech is also shit.

You asked for predictions, that's my prediction.  Mid-Jan all coins will drop (once kids stop investing their Christmas money) then the coin will fail.  The market will get leaner, and shitcoins will be pushed out.  !remindme 3months.


This is equivalent to penny stocks back in the day, now it's shitcoins trying to scam people into making a quick buck.  My prediction still holds.


Your predictions are already shit, Kim. Shouldn't it have failed right now like you proclaimed? It rose to a high of $6 in the beginning of January when you said it would be $1.20. Its not even close to that right now even with the drop. Man, if you're this bad predicting the price of a so-called "shit-coin", why would anyone trust you on it being a scam? We've got two more months for your "reminder". Can't wait for that too.


Trying to save face after getting proved wrong eh?  I feel bad for you being scammed.

No, I was just showing you that you were wrong since you just LOVE being right. !remindme 3 months  Huh

Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by. Keep spamming the forums, once 2.0 releases you'll have to eat a lot of what you've said. Until then, anyone can go to the XSPEC website and look at the FAQ.


I mean, one of the DEVs basically confirmed what I said so... yeah, you're wrong.  Haha.  You can't say anything now can ya?

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Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by.

And I don't actually own any monero believe it or not and this is my only account.  Message the mods to confirm if ya like that this is the only IP I post from and this is my only account.  Since I can tell you're a conspiracy theorist, I pray to god I don't see you post over at the Flat Earth Society.

You must be using reverse psychology on us, calling XSPEC scam but what you actually want is to promote it so it would grab people's attention.

But if you actually really mean to FUD SpectreCoin, and that as you claim is your only account, judging from your posts, you must really be a sad, lonely person.
No normal human would waste so much time FUDDING a coin like you do.
You're not giving a warning to people, you're actually aggressively attacking a coin. No one has been scammed by SpectreCoin, so you must have some other agenda. Your own actions have made you lose all credibility.
I have reported you for trolling and not contributing to the community.
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January 26, 2018, 03:10:50 PM
#32
Privacy coins demand is indeed on the rise.
Monero is leading the way. Verge, Sumokoin, Xspec, Deeponion are developing projects. As others say, do your own research.
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January 26, 2018, 03:09:13 PM
#31
This thread confirms the importance of doing your own research. Some people will be absolutely in love with a coin, and others will call it a scam
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January 26, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
#30
Current   = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

Thanks for the input KimJunkPuke,

Seems like calculating price for you is easier than actually researching real tech behind more than 1 year old project

Once you see shitcoins being spammed on forums, you know in your that the "tech" holds the shitcoin badge before even looking at it.  Then, once you look at it, you see that the tech is also shit.

You asked for predictions, that's my prediction.  Mid-Jan all coins will drop (once kids stop investing their Christmas money) then the coin will fail.  The market will get leaner, and shitcoins will be pushed out.  !remindme 3months.


This is equivalent to penny stocks back in the day, now it's shitcoins trying to scam people into making a quick buck.  My prediction still holds.


Your predictions are already shit, Kim. Shouldn't it have failed right now like you proclaimed? It rose to a high of $6 in the beginning of January when you said it would be $1.20. Its not even close to that right now even with the drop. Man, if you're this bad predicting the price of a so-called "shit-coin", why would anyone trust you on it being a scam? We've got two more months for your "reminder". Can't wait for that too.


Trying to save face after getting proved wrong eh?  I feel bad for you being scammed.

No, I was just showing you that you were wrong since you just LOVE being right. !remindme 3 months  Huh

Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by. Keep spamming the forums, once 2.0 releases you'll have to eat a lot of what you've said. Until then, anyone can go to the XSPEC website and look at the FAQ.


I mean, one of the DEVs basically confirmed what I said so... yeah, you're wrong.  Haha.  You can't say anything now can ya?

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Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by.

And I don't actually own any monero believe it or not and this is my only account.  Message the mods to confirm if ya like that this is the only IP I post from and this is my only account.  Since I can tell you're a conspiracy theorist, I pray to god I don't see you post over at the Flat Earth Society.
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January 26, 2018, 03:01:06 PM
#29
Current   = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

Thanks for the input KimJunkPuke,

Seems like calculating price for you is easier than actually researching real tech behind more than 1 year old project

Once you see shitcoins being spammed on forums, you know in your that the "tech" holds the shitcoin badge before even looking at it.  Then, once you look at it, you see that the tech is also shit.

You asked for predictions, that's my prediction.  Mid-Jan all coins will drop (once kids stop investing their Christmas money) then the coin will fail.  The market will get leaner, and shitcoins will be pushed out.  !remindme 3months.


This is equivalent to penny stocks back in the day, now it's shitcoins trying to scam people into making a quick buck.  My prediction still holds.


Your predictions are already shit, Kim. Shouldn't it have failed right now like you proclaimed? It rose to a high of $6 in the beginning of January when you said it would be $1.20. Its not even close to that right now even with the drop. Man, if you're this bad predicting the price of a so-called "shit-coin", why would anyone trust you on it being a scam? We've got two more months for your "reminder". Can't wait for that too.


Trying to save face after getting proved wrong eh?  I feel bad for you being scammed.

No, I was just showing you that you were wrong since you just LOVE being right. !remindme 3 months  Huh

Need to stop engaging trolls like this that sit on the Monero board all day and then hop on their shill account to troll other coins that they're threatened by. Keep spamming the forums, once 2.0 releases you'll have to eat a lot of what you've said. Until then, anyone can go to the XSPEC website and look at the FAQ.
newbie
Activity: 76
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January 26, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
#28
Current   = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

Thanks for the input KimJunkPuke,

Seems like calculating price for you is easier than actually researching real tech behind more than 1 year old project

Once you see shitcoins being spammed on forums, you know in your that the "tech" holds the shitcoin badge before even looking at it.  Then, once you look at it, you see that the tech is also shit.

You asked for predictions, that's my prediction.  Mid-Jan all coins will drop (once kids stop investing their Christmas money) then the coin will fail.  The market will get leaner, and shitcoins will be pushed out.  !remindme 3months.


This is equivalent to penny stocks back in the day, now it's shitcoins trying to scam people into making a quick buck.  My prediction still holds.


Your predictions are already shit, Kim. Shouldn't it have failed right now like you proclaimed? It rose to a high of $6 in the beginning of January when you said it would be $1.20. Its not even close to that right now even with the drop. Man, if you're this bad predicting the price of a so-called "shit-coin", why would anyone trust you on it being a scam? We've got two more months for your "reminder". Can't wait for that too.


Trying to save face after getting proved wrong eh?  I feel bad for you being scammed.
newbie
Activity: 76
Merit: 0
January 26, 2018, 02:56:11 PM
#27
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No one is saying that XSPEC is by default, a completely private coin in its current state.

Yes, it's not completely private.  Calling it a privacy coin is a MISREPRESENTATION. However, what it does show is the abuse and the huge disproportion of coin holdings in the current state by the address.  The Top 100 holders own 82%, and the Top 1000 own 99%.   So I guess it's a good thing it's not completely private currently to show that it's a scam after all.  It's a coin with PRIVACY FEATURES.  Not a PRIVACY coin.  Two totally different things, and you are marketing it differently than what it really is.

Quote
Looking at the INACCURATE blockchain viewer

You're debating it's INACCURATE. It's not very inaccurate at all.


XSPEC = SCAM

Everyone see how this troll argues? Always goes back to the scam argument with giant red text as if that bolsters his non-existent points.

XSpec is a privacy coin, I don't know why you would call it anything else when it can currently has Tor integrated, OBFS4 to trade in Tor blocked countries, and ring signatures. Thats far more current working features than some other privacy coins. There is no misrepresentation. When 2.0 hits, the only FUD talking point you'll have is the Top 1000 nonsense.

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XSPEC's ICO was more than a year ago. The distribution is now driven by market forces, not initial sales. Having said that, XSPEC's distribution is, indeed, 99% for the top 1000 addresses. This is what happens with every relatively young, relatively unknown project. I think people in the crypto world forget that even in 2018, crypto is not truly mainstream. As a percentage of the world's population, very few people hold BTC, and XSPEC is much, much, much, much less well-known than BTC. For such projects, the normal progression is 1) most coins are held by a small number of people, many of whom are close to the project; 2) coin experiences a pump; 3) some early adopters take profits, leading to a dump; 4) dump leads to redistribution to a larger group of holders; 5) repeat, with the amplitude of the pump and dump cycle dropping as distribution and market awareness improve. The key point here is that centralized distributions aren't great, but they are a fact of life in the earlier stages of most projects. They are NOT evidence for a scam (i.e., a deliberate attempt to steal money from people based on false information). Over time, if a project continues to follow its development roadmap and deliver on its promises, the distribution will improve.

The currently developers picked up the project well after its ICO was finished, and did not take part in it. They are funded only by community donations either directly or by staking donations. Its clear by now that you don't understand the meaning of the word scam.


See how an uneducated person argues?  As an engineer, I find it funny. These are your words:

Quote
No one is saying that XSPEC is by default, a completely private coin in its current state.

 XSPEC is not private by default, or a completely private coin.  In the future, maybe.  Who knows?  Currently VERGE is better than this scam coin.  But currently it's not a privacy coin and you admitted it yourself.  Don't go back on what you said, it makes you look uneducated like you don't know what you are talking about.

/Thread?


Quote
There is no misrepresentation. When 2.0 hits, the only FUD talking point you'll have is the Top 1000 nonsense.


As it's currently lacking privacy features that basic coins have.  I find if laughable that you're defending it so much, it's almost like you have an agenda of trying to market this coin and pump up the price and scam people. If I can help 1 person think rationally, than I did my good deed at preventing people from being scammed.  We however do know that it has a richlist and the Top 1000 is true.  Look at it for yourself it's not inaccurate lol.  I can see who owns what and to call it a privacy coin is a MISREPRESENTATION.  It's a coin with privacy FEATURES (very crude ones).

XSPEC is a SCAM and it's not a PRIVACY coin.

Regardless of the innovations coming forwards with Spectre, the richlist, and the public blockchain. There is still the option to send stealth transactions, which are private. Spectre also has the obfuscation privacy feature in TOR blocked regions already implemented. Spectre, the richlist, and the public blockchain.  you cannot manipulate facts, just like you are not KimJungUn, nor do you know him.

Yes.  It's a coin with privacy features, not a privacy coin, as you confirmed.

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Spectre, the richlist, and the public blockchain.

...

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you cannot manipulate facts

Correct, as confirmed by you.  It feels going being proved right.






jr. member
Activity: 63
Merit: 7
January 26, 2018, 02:46:18 PM
#26
Current   = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

Thanks for the input KimJunkPuke,

Seems like calculating price for you is easier than actually researching real tech behind more than 1 year old project

Once you see shitcoins being spammed on forums, you know in your that the "tech" holds the shitcoin badge before even looking at it.  Then, once you look at it, you see that the tech is also shit.

You asked for predictions, that's my prediction.  Mid-Jan all coins will drop (once kids stop investing their Christmas money) then the coin will fail.  The market will get leaner, and shitcoins will be pushed out.  !remindme 3months.


This is equivalent to penny stocks back in the day, now it's shitcoins trying to scam people into making a quick buck.  My prediction still holds.


Your predictions are already shit, Kim. Shouldn't it have failed right now like you proclaimed? It rose to a high of $6 in the beginning of January when you said it would be $1.20. Its not even close to that right now even with the drop. Man, if you're this bad predicting the price of a so-called "shit-coin", why would anyone trust you on it being a scam? We've got two more months for your "reminder". Can't wait for that too.
full member
Activity: 520
Merit: 123
January 26, 2018, 02:25:48 PM
#25
I've been looking at a project called tokenpay last month. I have reviewed the whitepaper and realized that it is a project that places great emphasis on safety.
Tokenpay can operate in an integrated manner with tor browser. recommend a look Wink

Look at TokenPay's wallet, then Look at Spectrecoins. Then Look at both of their Githubs. Look at the price difference and apply the appropriate financial decision.
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Activity: 1092
Merit: 254
January 26, 2018, 02:21:53 PM
#24
I've been looking at a project called tokenpay last month. I have reviewed the whitepaper and realized that it is a project that places great emphasis on safety.
Tokenpay can operate in an integrated manner with tor browser. recommend a look Wink
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Activity: 520
Merit: 123
January 26, 2018, 02:06:59 PM
#23
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No one is saying that XSPEC is by default, a completely private coin in its current state.

Yes, it's not completely private.  Calling it a privacy coin is a MISREPRESENTATION. However, what it does show is the abuse and the huge disproportion of coin holdings in the current state by the address.  The Top 100 holders own 82%, and the Top 1000 own 99%.   So I guess it's a good thing it's not completely private currently to show that it's a scam after all.  It's a coin with PRIVACY FEATURES.  Not a PRIVACY coin.  Two totally different things, and you are marketing it differently than what it really is.

Quote
Looking at the INACCURATE blockchain viewer

You're debating it's INACCURATE. It's not very inaccurate at all.


XSPEC = SCAM

Everyone see how this troll argues? Always goes back to the scam argument with giant red text as if that bolsters his non-existent points.

XSpec is a privacy coin, I don't know why you would call it anything else when it can currently has Tor integrated, OBFS4 to trade in Tor blocked countries, and ring signatures. Thats far more current working features than some other privacy coins. There is no misrepresentation. When 2.0 hits, the only FUD talking point you'll have is the Top 1000 nonsense.

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XSPEC's ICO was more than a year ago. The distribution is now driven by market forces, not initial sales. Having said that, XSPEC's distribution is, indeed, 99% for the top 1000 addresses. This is what happens with every relatively young, relatively unknown project. I think people in the crypto world forget that even in 2018, crypto is not truly mainstream. As a percentage of the world's population, very few people hold BTC, and XSPEC is much, much, much, much less well-known than BTC. For such projects, the normal progression is 1) most coins are held by a small number of people, many of whom are close to the project; 2) coin experiences a pump; 3) some early adopters take profits, leading to a dump; 4) dump leads to redistribution to a larger group of holders; 5) repeat, with the amplitude of the pump and dump cycle dropping as distribution and market awareness improve. The key point here is that centralized distributions aren't great, but they are a fact of life in the earlier stages of most projects. They are NOT evidence for a scam (i.e., a deliberate attempt to steal money from people based on false information). Over time, if a project continues to follow its development roadmap and deliver on its promises, the distribution will improve.

The currently developers picked up the project well after its ICO was finished, and did not take part in it. They are funded only by community donations either directly or by staking donations. Its clear by now that you don't understand the meaning of the word scam.


See how an uneducated person argues?  As an engineer, I find it funny. These are your words:

Quote
No one is saying that XSPEC is by default, a completely private coin in its current state.

 XSPEC is not private by default, or a completely private coin.  In the future, maybe.  Who knows?  Currently VERGE is better than this scam coin.  But currently it's not a privacy coin and you admitted it yourself.  Don't go back on what you said, it makes you look uneducated like you don't know what you are talking about.

/Thread?


Quote
There is no misrepresentation. When 2.0 hits, the only FUD talking point you'll have is the Top 1000 nonsense.


As it's currently lacking privacy features that basic coins have.  I find if laughable that you're defending it so much, it's almost like you have an agenda of trying to market this coin and pump up the price and scam people. If I can help 1 person think rationally, than I did my good deed at preventing people from being scammed.  We however do know that it has a richlist and the Top 1000 is true.  Look at it for yourself it's not inaccurate lol.  I can see who owns what and to call it a privacy coin is a MISREPRESENTATION.  It's a coin with privacy FEATURES (very crude ones).

XSPEC is a SCAM and it's not a PRIVACY coin.

Regardless of the innovations coming forwards with Spectre, the richlist, and the public blockchain. There is still the option to send stealth transactions, which are private. Spectre also has the obfuscation privacy feature in TOR blocked regions already implemented. These are the facts, you cannot manipulate facts, just like you are not KimJungUn, nor do you know him.
newbie
Activity: 76
Merit: 0
January 26, 2018, 01:20:50 PM
#22
Quote
No one is saying that XSPEC is by default, a completely private coin in its current state.

Yes, it's not completely private.  Calling it a privacy coin is a MISREPRESENTATION. However, what it does show is the abuse and the huge disproportion of coin holdings in the current state by the address.  The Top 100 holders own 82%, and the Top 1000 own 99%.   So I guess it's a good thing it's not completely private currently to show that it's a scam after all.  It's a coin with PRIVACY FEATURES.  Not a PRIVACY coin.  Two totally different things, and you are marketing it differently than what it really is.

Quote
Looking at the INACCURATE blockchain viewer

You're debating it's INACCURATE. It's not very inaccurate at all.


XSPEC = SCAM

Everyone see how this troll argues? Always goes back to the scam argument with giant red text as if that bolsters his non-existent points.

XSpec is a privacy coin, I don't know why you would call it anything else when it can currently has Tor integrated, OBFS4 to trade in Tor blocked countries, and ring signatures. Thats far more current working features than some other privacy coins. There is no misrepresentation. When 2.0 hits, the only FUD talking point you'll have is the Top 1000 nonsense.

Quote
XSPEC's ICO was more than a year ago. The distribution is now driven by market forces, not initial sales. Having said that, XSPEC's distribution is, indeed, 99% for the top 1000 addresses. This is what happens with every relatively young, relatively unknown project. I think people in the crypto world forget that even in 2018, crypto is not truly mainstream. As a percentage of the world's population, very few people hold BTC, and XSPEC is much, much, much, much less well-known than BTC. For such projects, the normal progression is 1) most coins are held by a small number of people, many of whom are close to the project; 2) coin experiences a pump; 3) some early adopters take profits, leading to a dump; 4) dump leads to redistribution to a larger group of holders; 5) repeat, with the amplitude of the pump and dump cycle dropping as distribution and market awareness improve. The key point here is that centralized distributions aren't great, but they are a fact of life in the earlier stages of most projects. They are NOT evidence for a scam (i.e., a deliberate attempt to steal money from people based on false information). Over time, if a project continues to follow its development roadmap and deliver on its promises, the distribution will improve.

The currently developers picked up the project well after its ICO was finished, and did not take part in it. They are funded only by community donations either directly or by staking donations. Its clear by now that you don't understand the meaning of the word scam.


See how an uneducated person argues?  As an engineer, I find it funny. These are your words:

Quote
No one is saying that XSPEC is by default, a completely private coin in its current state.

 XSPEC is not private by default, or a completely private coin.  In the future, maybe.  Who knows?  Currently VERGE is better than this scam coin.  But currently it's not a privacy coin and you admitted it yourself.  Don't go back on what you said, it makes you look uneducated like you don't know what you are talking about.

/Thread?


Quote
There is no misrepresentation. When 2.0 hits, the only FUD talking point you'll have is the Top 1000 nonsense.


As it's currently lacking privacy features that basic coins have.  I find if laughable that you're defending it so much, it's almost like you have an agenda of trying to market this coin and pump up the price and scam people. If I can help 1 person think rationally, than I did my good deed at preventing people from being scammed.  We however do know that it has a richlist and the Top 1000 is true.  Look at it for yourself it's not inaccurate lol.  I can see who owns what and to call it a privacy coin is a MISREPRESENTATION.  It's a coin with privacy FEATURES (very crude ones).

XSPEC is a SCAM and it's not a PRIVACY coin.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
January 26, 2018, 01:16:08 PM
#21
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich


Is that a Dev?  Bahahahahah... Scam.  Good luck with that "privacy" and half-assed coin.  Don't call it a privacy coin, you're misrepresenting it and people will get hurt because of the devs lack of rational thinking.

Are you retarded bro? then I would understand everything


George, quit posting your broken-English comments in every thread.

I have broken english! Sure! You have broken brain bro!
jr. member
Activity: 63
Merit: 7
January 26, 2018, 01:10:08 PM
#20
Quote
No one is saying that XSPEC is by default, a completely private coin in its current state.

Yes, it's not completely private.  Calling it a privacy coin is a MISREPRESENTATION. However, what it does show is the abuse and the huge disproportion of coin holdings in the current state by the address.  The Top 100 holders own 82%, and the Top 1000 own 99%.   So I guess it's a good thing it's not completely private currently to show that it's a scam after all.  It's a coin with PRIVACY FEATURES.  Not a PRIVACY coin.  Two totally different things, and you are marketing it differently than what it really is.

Quote
Looking at the INACCURATE blockchain viewer

You're debating it's INACCURATE. It's not very inaccurate at all.


XSPEC = SCAM

Everyone see how this troll argues? Always goes back to the scam argument with giant red text as if that bolsters his non-existent points.

XSpec is a privacy coin, I don't know why you would call it anything else when it can currently has Tor integrated, OBFS4 to trade in Tor blocked countries, and ring signatures. Thats far more current working features than some other privacy coins. There is no misrepresentation. When 2.0 hits, the only FUD talking point you'll have is the Top 1000 nonsense.

Quote
XSPEC's ICO was more than a year ago. The distribution is now driven by market forces, not initial sales. Having said that, XSPEC's distribution is, indeed, 99% for the top 1000 addresses. This is what happens with every relatively young, relatively unknown project. I think people in the crypto world forget that even in 2018, crypto is not truly mainstream. As a percentage of the world's population, very few people hold BTC, and XSPEC is much, much, much, much less well-known than BTC. For such projects, the normal progression is 1) most coins are held by a small number of people, many of whom are close to the project; 2) coin experiences a pump; 3) some early adopters take profits, leading to a dump; 4) dump leads to redistribution to a larger group of holders; 5) repeat, with the amplitude of the pump and dump cycle dropping as distribution and market awareness improve. The key point here is that centralized distributions aren't great, but they are a fact of life in the earlier stages of most projects. They are NOT evidence for a scam (i.e., a deliberate attempt to steal money from people based on false information). Over time, if a project continues to follow its development roadmap and deliver on its promises, the distribution will improve.

The currently developers picked up the project well after its ICO was finished, and did not take part in it. They are funded only by community donations either directly or by staking donations. Its clear by now that you don't understand the meaning of the word scam.

newbie
Activity: 76
Merit: 0
January 26, 2018, 12:58:25 PM
#19
Quote
No one is saying that XSPEC is by default, a completely private coin in its current state.

Yes, it's not completely private.  Calling it a privacy coin is a MISREPRESENTATION. However, what it does show is the abuse and the huge disproportion of coin holdings in the current state by the address.  The Top 100 holders own 82%, and the Top 1000 own 99%.   So I guess it's a good thing it's not completely private currently to show that it's a scam after all.  It's a coin with PRIVACY FEATURES.  Not a PRIVACY coin.  Two totally different things, and you are marketing it differently than what it really is.

Quote
Looking at the INACCURATE blockchain viewer

You're debating it's INACCURATE. It's not very inaccurate at all.


XSPEC = SCAM
jr. member
Activity: 63
Merit: 7
January 26, 2018, 12:48:09 PM
#18
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though.  

XSPEC is a scam.

The top 1000 holders own 99% of the coins.

It has a richlist, with a public blockchain where everything is visible.  

Notice how this person has nothing of quality to say about the topic at hand, he just follows threads around involving XSPEC and calls it a scam. He's just as bad as people that shill XSPEC saying "WILL 500X MOON I promise no doubt".


Top 1000 holders issue:
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According to the public blockchain, a large amount of coins appear to be held by only a few wallets, is this an issue?

Some people express concern that a large amount of Spectrecoin is concentrated in a few wallets and that the individuals who own the wallets may sell a large quantity of Spectrecoin at once, thus causing the price to drop drastically.

If this were to occur it would simply be a natural process of supply and demand, and under most conditions the price would correct in a reasonable amount of time as buyers purchase the Spectrecoin for a cheaper price. Additionally as the daily traded volume of Spectrecoin increases, the chance of a significant price drop due to a large amount of Spectrecoin for sale on the market decreases.

Furthermore if it were to happen multiple times, the chance of it happening again would exponentially decrease as the Spectrecoins would be distributed more evenly throughout the network, further reducing the risk of a sudden massive sell-off of Spectrecoin by any single individual.

It would also be unwise for any single individual to sell a large amount of Spectrecoins at once because they would not receive a desirable price. It would make sense for the individual to sell them over time.

Similarly, there are large holders of Bitcoin, and although the price has changed dramatically at times due to supply and demand and market corrections, it has increased steadily over time as most large holders know it would be unwise to sell all at once.

Richlist and public blockchain:
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Why does Spectrecoin have a rich list?

With the use of a block explorer it is possible to view the transactions that have occurred on the public blockchain; this data can be used to compile a rich list. However, any such list is inaccurate, as Spectrecoin has both public and stealth addresses, and the stealth addresses are not visible on the public blockchain.

Once stealth addresses and transactions become default with the planned 2.0 update, the already inaccurate rich list information will become obsolete.





Someone on the spectrum responded to me, heh.

So the defense of the top holders owning the majority of the coin, is:

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It would also be unwise for any single individual to sell a large amount of Spectrecoins at once because they would not receive a desirable price. It would make sense for the individual to sell them over time.

So it would be unwise for the top holders to sell, so they are currently selling slow to milk their profits over time.  Heh.  So the top 1000 that own 99% and the top 100 that own 82% are going to slowly scam people.  Got it.  Is this Bitconnect 2.0?  Rhetorical question.



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With the use of a block explorer it is possible to view the transactions that have occurred on the public blockchain; this data can be used to compile a rich list. However, any such list is inaccurate, as Spectrecoin has both public and stealth addresses, and the stealth addresses are not visible on the public blockchain. Once stealth addresses and transactions become default with the planned 2.0 update, the already inaccurate rich list information will become obsolete.


So in defense of the rich list, the current consensus is that they have one because only a few people use the OPTIONAL privacy features...  The rich list is inaccurate?  Currently the Top 1000 people OWN 99% of the coins.  If you want to see a more dramatic change in that, the coins need to be hidden.  But they're not.  It's fucking public because people are too dumb to figure out that XSPEC is not private.  The richlist shows the holders of the largest wallets because they are publically visible and they are MEANT to be visible.  No stealth addresses would change that.  They're public, and people can follow 99% of the transactions on the blockchain thats public.  They're not default currently.  Thus calling it a privacy coin right now is a SCAM.  In the future, once it has the features of other coins then we can have the talk about it being a privacy coin. At its current state it's NOT private.


XSPEC is a SCAM

You use the giant red text to take away from the fact that in your actual response, nothing that you are saying is of substance, otherwise you wouldn't need to do that and follow XSPEC around. No one is saying that XSPEC is by default, a completely private coin in its current state. How can you say that because a project hasn't implemented a feature thats currently on its roadmap, that its a scam? XSPEC has private capability ALREADY, its just not default.

Lets go with your ridiculous argument that the top 1000 people own 99% of the coins. Looking at the INACCURATE blockchain viewer (which by the way, can see wallets from exchanges) to break the Top 500 you would only need 1700 coins! I can't imagine how few coins you would need to break the Top 1000, because on that viewer, there are only 3271 total wallets. Its simply just a newer coin that not a lot of people have invested in yet. Once it gets more popular that spread is going to even out.
newbie
Activity: 76
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January 26, 2018, 12:47:04 PM
#17
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich


Is that a Dev?  Bahahahahah... Scam.  Good luck with that "privacy" and half-assed coin.  Don't call it a privacy coin, you're misrepresenting it and people will get hurt because of the devs lack of rational thinking.

Are you retarded bro? then I would understand everything


George, quit posting your broken-English comments in every thread.
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 122
January 26, 2018, 12:43:06 PM
#16
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though. 

I agree 100% with this post.  I'd like to add that the biggest hindrance for XSPEC is the lack of good exchange listing.  I think once it is listed on a major exchange it will spike.  Sadly, I think without that change, it cant grow too much.

There are other cheap anon coins worth considering like Aeon...who knows, they might pick up eventually.

Over all...Monero is still the safest bet.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
January 26, 2018, 12:41:51 PM
#15
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich


Is that a Dev?  Bahahahahah... Scam.  Good luck with that "privacy" and half-assed coin.  Don't call it a privacy coin, you're misrepresenting it and people will get hurt because of the devs lack of rational thinking.

Are you retarded bro? then I would understand everything
newbie
Activity: 142
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January 26, 2018, 12:41:22 PM
#14
Thanks for the info. I'll look into spectrecoin and some of these others mentioned.
newbie
Activity: 76
Merit: 0
January 26, 2018, 12:36:41 PM
#13
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich


Is that a Dev?  Bahahahahah... Scam.  Good luck with that "privacy" and half-assed coin.  Don't call it a privacy coin, you're misrepresenting it and people will get hurt because of the devs lack of rational thinking.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1087
January 26, 2018, 12:32:03 PM
#12
And what if one does not know code, how are they to decipher through all these coins? I mean most sound good but out of the bunch only a handful are going to make it or be anything by this years end, tough to chose a winner imho. For that reason I go with the already proven coins like DASH and ZEC but I still like to gamble a little and have coins like Onion and Cloak!

you don't have to be a coder to know. developers are open enough about how they implement things like this. stuff like dash private send is nothing more than official mixing. that's completely different to monero which is private through and through.
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January 26, 2018, 12:31:17 PM
#11
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though. 

XSPEC is a scam.

The top 1000 holders own 99% of the coins.

It has a richlist, with a public blockchain where everything is visible. 

Notice how this person has nothing of quality to say about the topic at hand, he just follows threads around involving XSPEC and calls it a scam. He's just as bad as people that shill XSPEC saying "WILL 500X MOON I promise no doubt".


Top 1000 holders issue:
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According to the public blockchain, a large amount of coins appear to be held by only a few wallets, is this an issue?

Some people express concern that a large amount of Spectrecoin is concentrated in a few wallets and that the individuals who own the wallets may sell a large quantity of Spectrecoin at once, thus causing the price to drop drastically.

If this were to occur it would simply be a natural process of supply and demand, and under most conditions the price would correct in a reasonable amount of time as buyers purchase the Spectrecoin for a cheaper price. Additionally as the daily traded volume of Spectrecoin increases, the chance of a significant price drop due to a large amount of Spectrecoin for sale on the market decreases.

Furthermore if it were to happen multiple times, the chance of it happening again would exponentially decrease as the Spectrecoins would be distributed more evenly throughout the network, further reducing the risk of a sudden massive sell-off of Spectrecoin by any single individual.

It would also be unwise for any single individual to sell a large amount of Spectrecoins at once because they would not receive a desirable price. It would make sense for the individual to sell them over time.

Similarly, there are large holders of Bitcoin, and although the price has changed dramatically at times due to supply and demand and market corrections, it has increased steadily over time as most large holders know it would be unwise to sell all at once.

Richlist and public blockchain:
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Why does Spectrecoin have a rich list?

With the use of a block explorer it is possible to view the transactions that have occurred on the public blockchain; this data can be used to compile a rich list. However, any such list is inaccurate, as Spectrecoin has both public and stealth addresses, and the stealth addresses are not visible on the public blockchain.

Once stealth addresses and transactions become default with the planned 2.0 update, the already inaccurate rich list information will become obsolete.





Someone on the spectrum responded to me, heh.

So the defense of the top holders owning the majority of the coin, is:

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It would also be unwise for any single individual to sell a large amount of Spectrecoins at once because they would not receive a desirable price. It would make sense for the individual to sell them over time.

So it would be unwise for the top holders to sell, so they are currently selling slow to milk their profits over time.  Heh.  So the top 1000 that own 99% and the top 100 that own 82% are going to slowly scam people.  Got it.  Is this Bitconnect 2.0?  Rhetorical question.



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With the use of a block explorer it is possible to view the transactions that have occurred on the public blockchain; this data can be used to compile a rich list. However, any such list is inaccurate, as Spectrecoin has both public and stealth addresses, and the stealth addresses are not visible on the public blockchain. Once stealth addresses and transactions become default with the planned 2.0 update, the already inaccurate rich list information will become obsolete.


So in defense of the rich list, the current consensus is that they have one because only a few people use the OPTIONAL privacy features...  The rich list is inaccurate?  Currently the Top 1000 people OWN 99% of the coins.  If you want to see a more dramatic change in that, the coins need to be hidden.  But they're not.  It's fucking public because people are too dumb to figure out that XSPEC is not private.  The richlist shows the holders of the largest wallets because they are publically visible and they are MEANT to be visible.  No stealth addresses would change that.  They're public, and people can follow 99% of the transactions on the blockchain thats public.  They're not default currently.  Thus calling it a privacy coin right now is a SCAM.  In the future, once it has the features of other coins then we can have the talk about it being a privacy coin.  At its current state it's NOT private.





XSPEC is a SCAM
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January 26, 2018, 12:27:23 PM
#10
i would only trust a privacy coin with the privacy as an innate part of the code. there seem to be quite a few with an extra layer glued on top of it and the chances are it'll crack eventually.

And what if one does not know code, how are they to decipher through all these coins? I mean most sound good but out of the bunch only a handful are going to make it or be anything by this years end, tough to chose a winner imho. For that reason I go with the already proven coins like DASH and ZEC but I still like to gamble a little and have coins like Onion and Cloak!
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January 26, 2018, 12:20:49 PM
#9
i would only trust a privacy coin with the privacy as an innate part of the code. there seem to be quite a few with an extra layer glued on top of it and the chances are it'll crack eventually.
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January 26, 2018, 10:51:57 AM
#8
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though. 

XSPEC is a scam.

The top 1000 holders own 99% of the coins.

It has a richlist, with a public blockchain where everything is visible. 

f..ckyourself..
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January 26, 2018, 10:39:50 AM
#7
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though. 

XSPEC is a scam.

The top 1000 holders own 99% of the coins.

It has a richlist, with a public blockchain where everything is visible. 

Notice how this person has nothing of quality to say about the topic at hand, he just follows threads around involving XSPEC and calls it a scam. He's just as bad as people that shill XSPEC saying "WILL 500X MOON I promise no doubt".


Top 1000 holders issue:
Quote
According to the public blockchain, a large amount of coins appear to be held by only a few wallets, is this an issue?

Some people express concern that a large amount of Spectrecoin is concentrated in a few wallets and that the individuals who own the wallets may sell a large quantity of Spectrecoin at once, thus causing the price to drop drastically.

If this were to occur it would simply be a natural process of supply and demand, and under most conditions the price would correct in a reasonable amount of time as buyers purchase the Spectrecoin for a cheaper price. Additionally as the daily traded volume of Spectrecoin increases, the chance of a significant price drop due to a large amount of Spectrecoin for sale on the market decreases.

Furthermore if it were to happen multiple times, the chance of it happening again would exponentially decrease as the Spectrecoins would be distributed more evenly throughout the network, further reducing the risk of a sudden massive sell-off of Spectrecoin by any single individual.

It would also be unwise for any single individual to sell a large amount of Spectrecoins at once because they would not receive a desirable price. It would make sense for the individual to sell them over time.

Similarly, there are large holders of Bitcoin, and although the price has changed dramatically at times due to supply and demand and market corrections, it has increased steadily over time as most large holders know it would be unwise to sell all at once.

Richlist and public blockchain:
Quote
Why does Spectrecoin have a rich list?

With the use of a block explorer it is possible to view the transactions that have occurred on the public blockchain; this data can be used to compile a rich list. However, any such list is inaccurate, as Spectrecoin has both public and stealth addresses, and the stealth addresses are not visible on the public blockchain.

Once stealth addresses and transactions become default with the planned 2.0 update, the already inaccurate rich list information will become obsolete.

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January 26, 2018, 10:24:08 AM
#6
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though. 

XSPEC is a scam.

The top 1000 holders own 99% of the coins.

It has a richlist, with a public blockchain where everything is visible. 

All you do in your post history is call SpectreCoin a scam. Don't you have anything better to do with your life?
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January 26, 2018, 10:22:25 AM
#5
Will name some:
PIVX: so far actitve dev team, with nice community to be around with, POS

DASH: I don't liek the fact that some % from mining goes to devs, its good for marketing and such stuff but why would you mine for somebody else?

ZCASH: is a bit questionable I'd say in terms of real privacy

IntenseCoin: recently heard about it, currently investigating more they are something like private coin + decentralized VPN at least this is their goal, mainly is based on cryptoNight but devs are trying to switch to something a like monero
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January 26, 2018, 10:13:10 AM
#4
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though. 

XSPEC is a scam.

The top 1000 holders own 99% of the coins.

It has a richlist, with a public blockchain where everything is visible. 
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January 26, 2018, 10:10:46 AM
#3
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though.  

Well summarized.

I hold some SpectreCoin because why not, it has a lot of potential. Potential. If they deliver stealth staking it's going to be huge. If not, it's still a decent privacy coin with some of the best privacy tech.
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January 26, 2018, 09:05:52 AM
#2
Monero - You can't go wrong with. King of Privacy and will be for a while.
Verge - Meh, don't trust the developers and they barely just released stealth. I only ever see people investing in Verge to try and make money, not use it for privacy.
DeepOnion - all hype/marketing, no tech. I feel like the only reason they have such a large community was because of the airdrop program. Concerning when it ends.

Another coin to check out would be Spectrecoin (XSPEC). Its got Tor, OBFS4 so it works in Tor blocked places like China & Iran, ring signatures, fast speeds, and its a Proof of Stake coin so you get a 5% yearly return on your coins if you're staking them. The 2.0 release for XSPEC is going to make stealth addresses default (right now they're optional) and introduce Stealth Staking. People don't think Stealth Staking is possible, so it could be a good investment if you get in before its implemented in Q2 2018. Feel free to join the slack and talk to the developers and do your own research.

So basically, I'd go with Monero if you're looking for something that works well RIGHT NOW. Should definitely look into XSPEC though. 
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January 26, 2018, 04:50:21 AM
#1
I'm very interested in privacy coins. With all the speculation about government involvement in regulation, I believe lots of people will gravitate towards Privacy. What are your thoughts on the different privacy coins available? Obviously Monero is established, Verge seems to be having on the up and up, and I've heard very good things about the tech behind DeepOnion. Any thoughts on these coins or any other privacy coins?
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