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October 11, 2022, 01:58:53 AM
#47
I totally go against teaching bitcoin in the church, a place of service isn't a business or e-commerce trade zone where financial empowerment is taking place, moreover there's a topic already created that talks about this same idea Bitcoin Class in the Church (14TH August, 2022 so I don't know if you're the one having a piracy to the topic to phish for merits or same person indulging under a covering, if you must teach bitcoin, go to the street, neighborhood, market, companies and organizations and introduce bitcoin to them, lastly make use of the search button to check for related topics being already discussed
I Kinda agree. I believe that there was supposed to be a service agenda for that time OP is taking to teach about Bitcoin in the Church which might not allow for enough time for understanding and Q&A, however, I commend your effort but If I were to do this, I would rather organize a seminal in my immediate community, like in my street for a start, this way I would have all the time to drill down of everything that needs to the thought and a follow-up Q&A and subsequent support.
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October 10, 2022, 10:20:59 PM
#46
I admire your commitment to educating everyone in your community about bitcoin, and I believe it is something to be proud of. Of course, there are many interesting things to say about bitcoin. This is a good step to introduce bitcoin to anyone who is not already familiar with it, and I hope one day they will teach people about it in the same way you do.
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October 10, 2022, 09:54:21 PM
#45
I totally go against teaching bitcoin in the church, a place of service isn't a business or e-commerce trade zone where financial empowerment is taking place, moreover there's a topic already created that talks about this same idea Bitcoin Class in the Church (14TH August, 2022 so I don't know if you're the one having a piracy to the topic to phish for merits or same person indulging under a covering, if you must teach bitcoin, go to the street, neighborhood, market, companies and organizations and introduce bitcoin to them, lastly make use of the search button to check for related topics being already discussed
maybe it is not about doing business or trading mate  but also in donation system , maybe it is better to have idea of what is this currency and how this will favor them? imagine a member from another country can directly send their donations or other form of Help by using blockchain?
this will also help crypto increase its users?

anyway there are different aspects we must consider in each , some uses religion for their soul while others for their pocket, but lets respect each others belief and idea because it is theirs to have.
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October 10, 2022, 09:11:49 PM
#44
Teaching an insight whether it's about Bitcoin or other things then I think it doesn't matter where it is. provided that what is taught will bring benefits to everyone who learns it. And knowledge about bitcoin really needs to be taught to the people around us. because we have to make people around it know and feel the benefits of bitcoin itself. But let them decide their own interests. our job is only to convey knowledge and let them decide for themselves what new knowledge they know. Because after all bitcoin is an asset that has high risk and high potential as well.
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October 07, 2022, 06:04:14 AM
#43
I totally go against teaching bitcoin in the church, a place of service isn't a business or e-commerce trade zone where financial empowerment is taking place,

   Apparently you are wrong, the worshipers of God are not meant to grow poor so if empowerment comes to individuals/members in the church, you must not confuse it for buying and selling!! There is no were knowledge can not be gained that's what you must know.

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moreover there's a topic already created that talks about this same idea Bitcoin Class in the Church (14TH August, 2022
 This forum is an open community were people learn from one another, if probably he has seen a thread were Bitcoin is thought in the church and he also decides offers such knowledge to his church members, I don't see anything wrong with that.

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October 06, 2022, 10:01:52 PM
#42
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Good job, OP. At least you spread awareness of Bitcoin, for what it is worth. I think you may have changed their perception of what it is since I am aware that the government in Nigeria has vilified it and wants to force it down the throats of its people. I like to think that your intention was to raise awareness of this revolutionary digital currency rather than to try to get people to acquire bitcoin. Bitcoin is for everyone and the knowledge sharing shouldn't be restricted to only one age group. Well done once again.
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October 06, 2022, 05:35:46 PM
#41
It's been over a decade and 2 years on top of it and still, many are yet to know anything of bitcoin aside to have just heard of it. The most the few whom have heard of it knows is that, its a digital currency and that's it. It makes me wonder what would be the placement of the CBDC in there definition. All around the world, the government and other critics have been constantly sourcing a way to discredit bitcoin and replace it with a system they can control. It becomes of importance for crypto enthusiast to seize the opportunity when it does avails itself to educate. Its why, I acknowledge the noble task you took to bring cryptocurrency into the religious settings.

However, you seem grounded on the notion of privacy and did good in hiding your identity but not so much your congregation. Why is that? Have you no regard for there privacy as well?
It's of importance that you do to others what you wish done to you. The Christinan book states that and it agrees with anonymity in this sense. Try editing the photos as it is possible, it would make a much better thread.
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October 06, 2022, 05:06:28 PM
#40
I really appreciate the efforts of Op in spreading the bitcoin news in his neighbourhood and even in the worship place. If everyone in this forum should be making similar efforts, bitcoin adoption would have been pushed further. I used to make this type of efforts in my newbie and member days, but it seems that many things have overtaken me or probably because I relocated to a distant place .


I do not count the price volatility of bitcoin as a disadvantage, it is actually one of the biggest advantages bitcoin has over other types of assets and currencies, the high price volatility in bitcoin is one of the major advantage that have helped bitcoin has create alot of Billionaires and millionaires in this space in a very short period of time, so I personally count this as an advantage, not disadvantage.

Op, made similar topic where he thought at workplace, I pointed out this exact thing but it seems he didn't read it or he's fixed to his believe.
Volatility can be an advantage and also disadvantage, but I feel it should be emphasised on advantage rather than disadvantage. I believe that if btc was a stable coin, even Op wouldn't have been here.
For those of us that are never religious, we might not know the privilege of teaching about what you do or like doing in a congregation where people are ever ready to follow what you are about to teach whether it's benefiting or not. Op had taken a great step in enlightening people of his religion of what Bitcoin is and I know it would have cost him some funds to put this into play.
We need to spread the good news about Bitcoin so that we can give people the opportunity to invest in a coin and market where they can benefit in a long run.
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October 06, 2022, 04:06:24 PM
#39
In my country churches have made big changes in the society providing education. Maybe here it is little different, but something after the regular service is good. People need to know about everything happening around and the same will create awareness and according to their need one can make use of it.
Even in my own country, churches have become more tight when it comes to teachings not related to church. You can stay in the church as long as it’s for religious education, other than that you can do it outside the church. However, with this scenario, it’s really a privilege that you are given a chance to teach bitcoin in the church. But always focus on the facts and give them assurance that bitcoin is not a big scam. But never fail to inform them that investing in bitcoin has its own risk so one should never start investing if he has not completely understood bitcoin and crypto market in the first place.
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October 06, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
#38
I totally go against teaching bitcoin in the church, a place of service isn't a business or e-commerce trade zone where financial empowerment is taking place,
It is true that the church is a place where the spiritual needs of the people are met and shouldn't be used as a place to carry out economic activities because even Jesus Christ discourages such acts. But in recent times we have seen the church becoming a key player in diverse sectors of the economy of most nations. We have seen some churches establishing universities and investing in other sectors of the economy.


I might say that is a misconception of human thinking. Does the church accept offering? if yes where do you think the members got the money to put offering. Telling the church members about cryptocurrency (bitcoin) is not a bad thing. 348Judah from what you are saying, you are one of those who sees bitcoin as an evil coin or for scammers if not I don't see anything bad of orienting people on bitcoin in the church. Bitcoin is a digital money (currency) which can be used the way fiat money (currency) is used. So what is the bad aspect of bitcoin that is not good teach educate people in the church.

True believers (born again) respect the church, but they have bought one thing or the other in the church, what do you call that one? business or what? My brother or sister, when are inform, you will be educated and aware of the social activities and when are not inform, definitely, you must be deform, that is where ignorance is not a disease statement comes to play.

@Frokolala thanks for your initiative, go ahead and do more. we need the people's adoption before the government adoption so that when the government adopts it, the people are already aware so there will no too much orientation at that time.
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October 06, 2022, 11:03:12 AM
#37
I am not religious, but I like it when religious institutions go beyond the matters of religion and help people learn something new. Church and education have been actually going hand-in-hand for many centuries (churches and monasteries where places where people could read and comment on various texts and churches often organized schools for children), so it isn't anything compeletely out of order or against tradition. If it's indeed focused on providing information, not investment advice (and it seems that it was indeed an educational event), I don't think people should think badly about it at all. It is good that people like the op exist and try to make a difference in their communities.
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October 06, 2022, 03:04:33 AM
#36
The idea of teaching bitcoin in the church should be taught to the younger generation before bringing it to the notice of the elderly ones. Why I said that is because some of our African parents forget things easily, they can make a simple mistake that can cost them their fortunes. The only person they are going to blame is you.

We are in the digital era and some of our African parents have difficulties understanding how it works. Many don't have a big phone or a computer system. How do you think they are understanding what you are teaching them
You make a valid point. Though bitcoin doesn’t know age, gender or society hierarchy I think it’s more effective to teach younger people because there is a greater chance they will explore and put what they have been taught into good use. Digital illiteracy is a major disadvantage to those in age groups 60-85, they do not have much knowledge about the internet, it will be futile to expect them to grasp what is being taught.
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October 05, 2022, 06:05:51 PM
#35
The idea of teaching bitcoin in the church should be taught to the younger generation before bringing it to the notice of the elderly ones. Why I said that is because some of our African parents forget things easily, they can make a simple mistake that can cost them their fortunes. The only person they are going to blame is you.

We are in the digital era and some of our African parents have difficulties understanding how it works. Many don't have a big phone or a computer system. How do you think they are understanding what you are teaching them
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October 04, 2022, 03:21:44 PM
#34
From my understanding bitcoin is not good to fish in the church it is only good to teach in school so that they will understand what bitcoin is all about teaching Bitcoin in George is just to compare it with God so I don't think that teaching Bitcoin in church is a good idea it will make her look as if you are bringing business or investments to church to pass it through the people in the church which is strong from the way I am saying it so the best place to do the Bitcoin in school and also have your own school of cryptocurrency where people come and learn Bitcoin
I know that church seems to be a holy place but I think people who go or work in a church can also talk about random things which aren't totally related to god so I think talking about btc on their spare time or when the mass is over is fine. I don't know if all church have this, but here in ours they have some kind of offering where church workers ask for some amount to the people who attend in mass.

I am thinking that maybe people can use btc for this? I know it sounds silly but it was still a form of donation right? But it's only being done in an innovative way. Not all people can go to school so btc shouldn't be limited to be taught in schools. Btc can be teach to any people anywhere they are but of course btc must be legal on that country so that we won't be in trouble.
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October 04, 2022, 12:14:43 AM
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It was been looking good that there is a growing interest in the community. Well, teaching these people is not hard knowing that they will certainly listen and their minds are wide open to understand how this works. It simply won't be done easily, probably not in a single day but I was sure these people who see the potential of Bitcoin will get what it deserves them. As the discussion continue, they find out that those who say it was scam or ponzi are wrong.
Those who initially said it was a scam and ponzi of course they didn't know what bitcoin was and how bitcoin worked because they didn't get any education about bitcoin. When there is a moment like this, where the young people around give some important education about bitcoin, their minds will open and understand how bitcoin works. This makes them more interested in learning about bitcoin and the technology behind it. this is the first step for them to be more advanced and not left behind by the others.


It's not a scam, but it can be debated that it started as a "Naturally-Occurring Ponzi" because most of its value is market-driven, but not a "Ponzi" as in there's a centralized entity to "scam" you. Bitcoin is just like Gold. It started to be HODLed, and valued, with a market behind it causing its price to surge, and to sell it higher, someone must enter the system with new money. THEN an economy was built around it through the first dark markets, giving it a "circular economy" and real world value. That's when it stopped being a "Ponzi" in my opinion.
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October 03, 2022, 07:05:58 PM
#32
Bitcoin Class in the Church (14TH August, 2022 so I don't know if you're the one having a piracy to the topic to phish for merits or same person indulging under a covering,

Please I am not the one. I can't create one topic twice...that is Spamming. Unless a class that has a theorical and practical classes. I don't have alt-acct. Even though not all at least I know some of the forum rules. I can only update my thread if such idea comes...or make a comment on my thread, please, we are not one.
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October 03, 2022, 06:58:30 PM
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I totally go against teaching bitcoin in the church, a place of service isn't a business or e-commerce trade zone where financial empowerment is taking place,
It is true that the church is a place where the spiritual needs of the people are met and shouldn't be used as a place to carry out economic activities because even Jesus Christ discourages such acts. But in recent times we have seen the church becoming a key player in diverse sectors of the economy of most nations. We have seen some churches establishing universities and investing in other sectors of the economy.

Churches now don't only care about the spiritual needs of their members but also the financial or economic needs. We have seen churches inviting or hiring business or financial experts to conduct seminars on different topics to help members gain some information that would make them profit financially. Churches also organize skill acquisition seminars to empower members with some needed skills that would make them financially stable. Hence, what OP has done in is not against the current happenings in the church.  

 
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moreover there's a topic already created that talks about this same idea Bitcoin Class in the Church (14TH August, 2022 so I don't know if you're the one having a piracy to the topic to phish for merits or same person indulging under a covering, if you must teach bitcoin, go to the street, neighborhood, market, companies and organizations and introduce bitcoin to them, lastly make use of the search button to check for related topics being already discussed
Although I might not be able to perfectly decode the intention of OP for making this effort, but what he did is commendable. Sometimes this forum is the only place where members share their activities or daily encounters with Bitcoin. And most times the commendation and appreciation they receive from members serves as a form of motivation and encouragement to do more. I also feel that the corrections and advice members give to them when they create these threads are very helpful not to only the original poster but to others that read it.

I always encourage people to be unique and original but sometimes another person's experience could also serve as a motivation to do the same thing when such an opportunity arise. If not for Coca-Cola coke, Pepsi wouldn't have existed. But both of them have a unique taste and offers different experiences. Members like Frankolala should be encouraged to share their Bitcoin experience.
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October 03, 2022, 05:19:35 PM
#30
It was been looking good that there is a growing interest in the community. Well, teaching these people is not hard knowing that they will certainly listen and their minds are wide open to understand how this works. It simply won't be done easily, probably not in a single day but I was sure these people who see the potential of Bitcoin will get what it deserves them. As the discussion continue, they find out that those who say it was scam or ponzi are wrong.
Those who initially said it was a scam and ponzi of course they didn't know what bitcoin was and how bitcoin worked because they didn't get any education about bitcoin. When there is a moment like this, where the young people around give some important education about bitcoin, their minds will open and understand how bitcoin works. This makes them more interested in learning about bitcoin and the technology behind it. this is the first step for them to be more advanced and not left behind by the others.
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October 03, 2022, 04:59:09 PM
#29
I'd be kinda fine with this as long as you didn't recommend people to buy bitcoin, and if you made it very clear that bitcoin is a very risky hold(which it looks like you did inform them based on the flyer).

While there's nothing really wrong with doing this in the church, it'd be better if you did it somewhere else as some charlatan might use these photos saying that people are promoting ponzi schemes in your church.
Teaching is not prohibited in any place as long as the place is conducive to learning. However, since the topic is quite controversial, then i agree that you should have done it outside the church. That way, you can avoid some future issues. I'm just glad to know that there are really some of your learners who eventually become interested in bitcoin after you teach them. Just never convince them to buy and hold bitcoin, because it should be their own will so that whatever happens to their investment, you will never be the one to blame.
There is a right place to do this and I agree, this shouldn't be done inside the church as it was a sacred place.

It was been looking good that there is a growing interest in the community. Well, teaching these people is not hard knowing that they will certainly listen and their minds are wide open to understand how this works. It simply won't be done easily, probably not in a single day but I was sure these people who see the potential of Bitcoin will get what it deserves them. As the discussion continue, they find out that those who say it was scam or ponzi are wrong.
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October 03, 2022, 04:37:56 PM
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I'd be kinda fine with this as long as you didn't recommend people to buy bitcoin, and if you made it very clear that bitcoin is a very risky hold(which it looks like you did inform them based on the flyer).

While there's nothing really wrong with doing this in the church, it'd be better if you did it somewhere else as some charlatan might use these photos saying that people are promoting ponzi schemes in your church.
Teaching is not prohibited in any place as long as the place is conducive to learning. However, since the topic is quite controversial, then i agree that you should have done it outside the church. That way, you can avoid some future issues. I'm just glad to know that there are really some of your learners who eventually become interested in bitcoin after you teach them. Just never convince them to buy and hold bitcoin, because it should be their own will so that whatever happens to their investment, you will never be the one to blame.
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October 03, 2022, 04:29:27 PM
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That's a good idea if your purpose is to educate them, we've seen many churches now accepting Bitcoin as a donation and it might be good if they even know basic technical knowledge about Bitcoin and how it'll work.  It's also awareness to them, you can give them as an example that there's a church now accepting Bitcoin as a financial donation or transaction and it might your church will do the same.

I didn't see any wrong if you'll discuss this in your church, Bitcoin is not a curse to be feared, yet, it's an advantageous technology that can be useful to anyone.
Its good to see that you have given the privilege to teach bitcoin  in a church, that way it will bring awareness to the people and will clear out the issues that bitcoin is a scam and a quick rich scheme. Bitcoin is a great innovation so people deserve to know about it since it can be very useful for them when the world is ready for bitcoin global adoption.
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October 03, 2022, 03:18:01 PM
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In my country churches have made big changes in the society providing education. Maybe here it is little different, but something after the regular service is good. People need to know about everything happening around and the same will create awareness and according to their need one can make use of it.
Whether it’s in the church or in any religious gathering, I guess learning should never stop especially for a certain topic that you know will be very useful in the future. And bitcoin is not an exception. As long as you never teach them against their will, that will be very fine. Because in the very first place, you won’t develop learning in them if they don’t have the interest from the start.
As a certain person who do thrive on sharing up the opportunity on where Bitcoin gives or simply with the benefits then you would really be having interest on sharing up this good thing.You would definitely
notice directly if people does have the interest or not, if you do see that there's some interest into their eyes then this is where you do make your discussion to continue.Its true that it doesnt matter
if this one would happen on a church or not, as long you do make yourself on the right timing or appropriate ones  (not have a mass) then it would be considerable.
You do have the freedom on doing so,teaching does really spread out awareness of bitcoins existence and this do help somehow when it comes or do talks about recognition.
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October 03, 2022, 03:17:39 PM
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in my opinion you did well to teach people about bitcoin because bitcoin is equal to money, so people in your church can accept bitcoin donations, but for that to happen they need to learn more about bitcoin, I'm just going to be hard on you on this one. of you posting these people, I think it was a huge exaggeration and you should remove these photos. also be careful, see if the church people really understand the risk of losing money and if they are not confused people, confused people are capable of buying bitcoin and losing money and then blaming you
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October 03, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
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In my country churches have made big changes in the society providing education. Maybe here it is little different, but something after the regular service is good. People need to know about everything happening around and the same will create awareness and according to their need one can make use of it.
Whether it’s in the church or in any religious gathering, I guess learning should never stop especially for a certain topic that you know will be very useful in the future. And bitcoin is not an exception. As long as you never teach them against their will, that will be very fine. Because in the very first place, you won’t develop learning in them if they don’t have the interest from the start.
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October 03, 2022, 02:40:05 PM
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Appreciate the effort there OP. I'm also surprised that this has not brought you any problem of conflict in interest as churches usually don't talk about investment tools. Well, maybe not every religion thinks about what the church I had before as their principles. Most churches thinks money will make someone greedy - so they don't talk about investment that much or not at all.
On the brighter side, as long as you do not encourage them to invest, you're only giving them the basic knowledge about Bitcoin, then I guess you're in a good hand. Because, believe me or not, someone and somehow there will always be your critic, most especially that you're preaching about Bitcoin in a church. Nevertheless, just continue to teach and share your Bitcoin knowledge everywhere when you have the chance.
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October 03, 2022, 12:42:37 PM
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I really appreciate the efforts of Op in spreading the bitcoin news in his neighbourhood and even in the worship place. If everyone in this forum should be making similar efforts, bitcoin adoption would have been pushed further. I used to make this type of efforts in my newbie and member days, but it seems that many things have overtaken me or probably because I relocated to a distant place .


I do not count the price volatility of bitcoin as a disadvantage, it is actually one of the biggest advantages bitcoin has over other types of assets and currencies, the high price volatility in bitcoin is one of the major advantage that have helped bitcoin has create alot of Billionaires and millionaires in this space in a very short period of time, so I personally count this as an advantage, not disadvantage.

Op, made similar topic where he thought at workplace, I pointed out this exact thing but it seems he didn't read it or he's fixed to his believe.
Volatility can be an advantage and also disadvantage, but I feel it should be emphasised on advantage rather than disadvantage. I believe that if btc was a stable coin, even Op wouldn't have been here.
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October 03, 2022, 08:44:04 AM
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OP, I will be the most insensitive person if I fail to acknowledge the fact that you've really put alot of effort into this, and it's really commendable.
First, public speaking isn't that easy, let alone, teaching adults, but to be honest with you, teaching bitcoin in church doesn't sit well with me, church is a place to worship God, and not a place to introduce people into investment ideas or business ideas.. I have my reasons for saying this, and one of this reasons is that, some of this people(church members) can decide to invest and in the process, loss their money, and when this happens, they turn to blame you for their loss, and some of this people might end up leaving that church because they feel a fellow member cheated them and they can't bear seeing you when they come to worship God...

So for this and many other reasons I didn't mention, I prefer the church being a place to worship God, every other stuffs like teaching bitcoin and all that should be done outside the church.


I wish to comment on disadvantages of bitcoin number one....
I do not count the price volatility of bitcoin as a disadvantage, it is actually one of the biggest advantages bitcoin has over other types of assets and currencies, the high price volatility in bitcoin is one of the major advantage that have helped bitcoin has create alot of Billionaires and millionaires in this space in a very short period of time, so I personally count this as an advantage, not disadvantage.
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October 03, 2022, 08:01:12 AM
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Frankolala! It's Good too see how much effort you have put into that, I've been to the Catholic Church once or twice and I know they are always ready and opened to new ideas.
Seeing from the pictures you've shared here, it shows that this are clearly old timers and grown ups, the smile on that pretty ladies face tells me she's shown so much interest, you must be an interesting teacher  Roll Eyes

They're much more difficult to accept Bitcoin and also learn you have to show proof and proof before they would get to see reasons with you. Accepting Bitcoin in Businesses are also rare they find them to difficult to sink in and mostly scam ( Just like the previous M-M-M ).

Although, this doesn't seem unique no more as the likes of Agbe, Crypto headlinews etc has done some stuffs similar to this, some might agree with you and some ? This would be seen as a merit hunting skim. But what's more mandatory is that you're promoting the adoption of Bitcoin in Nigeria. Once again Bravo!

They adults tend to forget lots of things, they can write down them seed phase in a piece of paper, and if possible getting a laminated paper over it against water and damp areas. They all should be Privacy minded at all times for the sake of those coins, if gone, it's not coming back.

Thanks for tirelessly touching live's from what you've learnt here.


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October 03, 2022, 06:10:48 AM
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That's a good idea if your purpose is to educate them, we've seen many churches now accepting Bitcoin as a donation and it might be good if they even know basic technical knowledge about Bitcoin and how it'll work.  It's also awareness to them, you can give them as an example that there's a church now accepting Bitcoin as a financial donation or transaction and it might your church will do the same.

I didn't see any wrong if you'll discuss this in your church, Bitcoin is not a curse to be feared, yet, it's an advantageous technology that can be useful to anyone.


I might sound like a Greedy Pleb, but as a HODLer, and as an investor, I would discourage my fellow plebs from giving away their hard earned Bitcoins. I'm not saying "say NO" to charity, but unless you earned the Bitcoin you're going to donate in Bitcoins, don't donate them.

Personally, the only reasons you should use your Bitcoins is if you require censorship-resistance, like if gambling is illegal in your region, and there are no other ways to deposit in a casino, then you can use Bitcoin.

BUT good on OP for educating more people about Bitcoin. May it start their journey.
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October 03, 2022, 05:02:25 AM
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First, I will say that our friends from Africa should pay a little more attention to their protection and the privacy of those around them - and here not only the exact location has been revealed, but also some names and faces of most people. Also, the size of the images is completely inappropriate for the forum, and there is a way to adjust them very simply.



Regarding teaching Bitcoin in the Catholic Church, I personally think that churches are not appropriate places for it, although I can understand that the situation in an African country is significantly different from the situation in a European country. Therefore, I can understand that the space of the church is used in this way, because for OP and his community, in most cases, the church is perhaps the only suitable place for meetings.

Here in Europe, we have fewer and fewer members of the Catholic Church, and the information I recently read is that for the first time in history, the number of declared believers in Germany fell below 50%, and churches all over Europe are being sold and become museums, art galleries or skateboard playgrounds.


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October 03, 2022, 03:59:48 AM
#17
Good for you that our church mate listen on this investment opportunity talks. Here, Church is always the target of different ponzi scheme before that’s people here especially religious organisations don’t allow anymore any investment talk among the members.

You can read the greatest scam here in PH that involves religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapa_investment_scam


Just be careful and make sure that they really understand the risk so that you will not liable for there loss. It’s good that you have pomplet for the study guide. I hope for your success on educating them!
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October 03, 2022, 03:50:56 AM
#16
Do they listen to you well? I see that the age difference is big and there are no young people, all of them are over 30 years old and therefore rarely take bold economic decisions.
Isee some women and it is good to know that they are willing to learn something new.

I remember that the percentage of using phones in banking transactions is high in one of the African countries, is it your country?
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October 03, 2022, 03:08:52 AM
#15
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You have a great initiative to teach your community about Bitcoin and because what you teach is for the good I think it's not a problem if you teach it to the community in the church, but I want to know what you teach? and from what you teach your community What is the thing that catches their attention the most?
because maybe this will be my reference to also teach the community in my church
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October 03, 2022, 02:35:58 AM
#14
so I don't know if you're the one having a piracy to the topic to phish for merits or same person indulging under a covering, if you must teach bitcoin, go to the street, neighborhood, market, companies and organizations and introduce bitcoin to them, lastly make use of the search button to check for related topics being already discussed


I can't call it a merit hunt. Before you judge, you need to think about what you are doing to attract people to Bitcoin.  Huh Angry


OP, I read your threads, and I'm really surprised by your efforts and your concern. I understand that an hour of talking about bitcoins is a drop in the ocean, but your passion and desire to help people deserve respect. I am generally interested in the culture of your people. It is completely different from the culture in which I live. Very few people worry about how their neighbors live. I see that you are doing this selflessly, and I really hope that you will help a few more people get interested in Bitcoin. 
And of course, we all really hope that you will warn all those interested in investing that it is not worth risking funds at such an uncertain time without having enough cushion in life. 
My respect.
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October 03, 2022, 02:24:12 AM
#13
In OP’s defense, the church used to be a patron of science in the olden days. The disparity between religion and science started and ends with the evolution theory, other conceptions and theories that do not threaten the Christian faith are welcome in the church. I appreciate your efforts to teach your church members bitcoin, I’m only worried that you may be dragged in church when members buy the pump and bitcoin dips or they get ambitious and buy alts and they suffer a loss. For now, you should only teach them the basics of bitcoin and not trading. I think the risk management practices is too early for a first class, teaching about stop-loss and leveraging is not necessary unless you’re teaching them how to trade futures.
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October 03, 2022, 02:11:51 AM
#12
I really appreciate your efforts in increasing the awareness of people around you about the importance of a new knowledge of the new technology that is bitcoin. although this is not new to us. but for some people bitcoin is still a new thing. because even some of my neighbors don't know anything at all or haven't heard of bitcoin at all. so when i chat with my friend about bitcoin. so my neighbor wanted to listen because for him it was new knowledge.

I think teaching in a place of worship is not a problem. provided we obey the existing rules. because a religion covers all aspects of life. not only a matter of worship but also covers all other aspects of life such as economics, politics, social and health and so on. Spreading knowledge is a good thing. provided we continue to comply with applicable regulations and do not violate them. and sooner or later knowledge of bitcoin will be important for everyone when one day bitcoin can be more accepted by more countries.
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October 03, 2022, 01:56:48 AM
#11
A church? That might be somewhat unorthodox but I am not against it. In fact, although it seems like a strange, almost alien-like concept to teach about a financial instrument in a place of worship, it might be a good place to find Bitcoin believers who have good reputations within their own community. But then again, if your target is gullible people, then ironically, church might be just the right answer. (Just my perspective)

That being said, I do not want to sound negative. Especially since this is going to enrichen their lives instead of making them poorer. So all in all a good thing. I am sure that they will spread the word among more and more people! Good job! Bitcoin helps people regardless of their beliefs or social/financial standing in the world.
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October 03, 2022, 12:47:54 AM
#10
From my understanding bitcoin is not good to fish in the church it is only good to teach in school so that they will understand what bitcoin is all about teaching Bitcoin in George is just to compare it with God so I don't think that teaching Bitcoin in church is a good idea it will make her look as if you are bringing business or investments to church to pass it through the people in the church which is strong from the way I am saying it so the best place to do the Bitcoin in school and also have your own school of cryptocurrency where people come and learn Bitcoin
huh? the OP is not connecting bitcoin to faith or anything, he is just teaching them about bitcoin. if you check the replies on this thread, you'll see that OP said that the church service is over. the OP is spreading awareness about bitcoin to his community(which I think is a good thing). anyway, like what mk4 has said, as long he does not encourage them to buy bitcoin and clarifies the risk involved when dealing with bitcoin, I am fine with what he is doing.
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October 02, 2022, 10:48:23 PM
#9
I'd be kinda fine with this as long as you didn't recommend people to buy bitcoin, and if you made it very clear that bitcoin is a very risky hold(which it looks like you did inform them based on the flyer).

While there's nothing really wrong with doing this in the church, it'd be better if you did it somewhere else as some charlatan might use these photos saying that people are promoting ponzi schemes in your church.
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October 02, 2022, 10:21:11 PM
#8
Credits to you for your efforts to spread Bitcoin awareness. Of course getting to know about Bitcoin could be done anywhere, even in the church for as long as it doesn't interfere with whatever activity conducted there. Having this right after the church services is good because the people are still there and you are almost assured that you will have an audience.

Perhaps next time you could also demonstrate to them how to actually create a wallet, make a Bitcoin purchase, etc.
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October 02, 2022, 10:20:31 PM
#7
Actually it is not what you think, church service is over...

So the mass is over and you just stay after the mass where you take the opportunity to teach about Bitcoin, I understand.

I just didn't see clearly how to combine faith with Bitcoin.

It is Nigeria, isn't it? From what I see you write on the local board. What is clear to me is that you are a very large community on the forum and that Bitcoin is very widespread in the country, besides several of you have initiatives like this to popularize it.

Keep up the good work!
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October 02, 2022, 07:41:25 PM
#6
I don't know how many users of this forum in your country have the same idea of ​​teaching bitcoin to people and posting their activities here as a contribution effort. Your idea deserves appreciation and you should get hundreds of merit for the effort, time and money you put into making this class a success, but sadly so far none of them are interested. While some time ago someone managed to get noticed despite only teaching kids under 18 about this decentralized currency who in the end [most likely] difficult become a potential user in the next 5 - 10 years as a potential investor or forum contributor.

I tend to like this idea outside the context of individual businesses or profit-seeking groups, so if you sincerely want to teach them about bitcoin, then I think you deserve great appreciation. My main point here is not about merit, but your efforts are worth it as you will probably bring more potential people to the forums and markets when they realize that bitcoin is a profitable asset. The main problem is, not everyone is interested in the same idea even though the main cover is different from one another. OP, I wish you all the best.
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October 02, 2022, 06:58:25 PM
#5
That's a good idea if your purpose is to educate them, we've seen many churches now accepting Bitcoin as a donation and it might be good if they even know basic technical knowledge about Bitcoin and how it'll work.  It's also awareness to them, you can give them as an example that there's a church now accepting Bitcoin as a financial donation or transaction and it might your church will do the same.

I didn't see any wrong if you'll discuss this in your church, Bitcoin is not a curse to be feared, yet, it's an advantageous technology that can be useful to anyone.
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October 02, 2022, 05:48:50 PM
#4
In my country churches have made big changes in the society providing education. Maybe here it is little different, but something after the regular service is good. People need to know about everything happening around and the same will create awareness and according to their need one can make use of it.
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October 02, 2022, 05:38:11 PM
#3
I totally go against teaching bitcoin in the church, a place of service isn't a business or e-commerce trade zone where financial empowerment is taking place, moreover there's a topic already created that talks about this same idea Bitcoin Class in the Church (14TH August, 2022 so I don't know if you're the one having a piracy to the topic to phish for merits or same person indulging under a covering, if you must teach bitcoin, go to the street, neighborhood, market, companies and organizations and introduce bitcoin to them, lastly make use of the search button to check for related topics being already discussed
Actually it is not what you think, church service is over it is just my group people and moreover we didn't transact any business but just knowledge that will be useful for them. These same church people are the people you see on the street,Bitcoin can be taught anywhere as long as it is about giving the awareness, have you read my previous thread on teaching bitcoin in schools,I will give the knowlege to the general public. we make donations in church and give money for charity in the church,so teaching bitcoin is like a charity work because if the knowledge is acquired they will be save from the fiat currency and will benefit them
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October 02, 2022, 04:59:00 PM
#2
I totally go against teaching bitcoin in the church, a place of service isn't a business or e-commerce trade zone where financial empowerment is taking place, moreover there's a topic already created that talks about this same idea Bitcoin Class in the Church (14TH August, 2022 so I don't know if you're the one having a piracy to the topic to phish for merits or same person indulging under a covering, if you must teach bitcoin, go to the street, neighborhood, market, companies and organizations and introduce bitcoin to them, lastly make use of the search button to check for related topics being already discussed
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October 02, 2022, 11:45:57 AM
#1
 It was not easy for me in this gathering to give a talk on Bitcoin to members of a group I belong to in my church. I thought of how I can get elderly people to have the knowledge of bitcoin,an idea came into me  that I should first start a class with the elders ones in my church.
  I attend roman catholic church, i belong to one of the well known society in the church (church warden) our work is to keep the church in order during celebration of the holy Eucharist. we do have our monthly meetings,it was held today Sunday 2nd October.

  During our meeting last month,I raised an issue about giving a talk on bitcoin after the major issues in our next meeting have been trashed out. I tried to convinced Sir Anthony Udon who is our chairman,that our meetings should be an atmosphere of learning something new happening in the world today,this will enhance the church warden to have new members and also make old members regular in monthly meetings. I also stated that the meetings shouldn't be based on only the issues of the church but it should also be about the welfare of the members by teaching and assisting the members on other aspect of life which they are unaware of,since the church is part of the society. He said NO,there will be no time for this because the church members of the neighboring communities belonging to the group will in attendance, since it will b a general meeting and we are the host church.
 
  Sir Udoh's son is my friend, I do tell him about bitcoin and answers any question he asks me on bitcoin,I have even told him about this forum but he said he is too busy with work,when he is ready for bitcoin he will be involved. We do see very often,so I pleaded with him to talk to his dad over my request of giving the privilege to give a talk in our next meeting which he accepted.
  Last weekend in the church,Sir Udoh told me to be ready to give the talk as he has considered my request,since members from other communities will be present,it will be nice for such to be included in the agenda of the meeting, to show a difference from other meetings they have been attending,he said all these. He gave me just one hour to talk on bitcoin. The time was too small after much thought, I decided to print a guide on Bitcoin basic concept which I shared to everybody present in the meeting today,so that they can easily go through it as I am explaining to them and keep it to themselves in order to read over again and again should in case the person have an interest later.

It was quite easy for them to understand because 60℅ of them came with android phones connected to the internet. During the talk I showed them on phone,which they praticalise themselves especially the wallet aspect. I told them about btt forum.
 After the meeting,two youths met me that they appreciated the knowledge and will love to learn more,I then introduced them to the forum and how to register to become a member of this lovely community. A business man asked if he can buy his goods abroad with bitcoin and I said yes but he needs to confirm first from his customer accepts bitcoin.

The elderly ones where confused first,but when I taught them one on one after the meeting, few picked interest and said technology is wonderful with smiles on their faces. We were 36 in attendance. This is how far I have gone in spreading bitcoin awareness in my locality,I  still remain humble in spreading bitcoin awareness voluntarily.


  





 

 

 





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