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Topic: Problem gamblers what can we do to help them help theirselves? (Read 474 times)

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No one can actually help a gambler but himself/herself. If you are addicted to something, you know that even if people, whether a close one or not, give you advice it won't stop you from doing something you are crazy about. For them, gambling is like a drug that they can't stop. That is why as early as you can learn to moderate your self, or if you know you can't move away from gambling. Gambling is supposed to be a habit to entertain people. It should be a means to relieve stress, spend time for yourself and socialize. But, due to the chance of earning easy money, it makes people greedy.
i agree that no one can help gambler when they're are addicted . Because their mindset is too hard to understand especially if you don't have knowledge about gambling.. And you will be blamed if you keep Convincing them to stop, because it seems your blocking their way to succeed . Lol. That is based in my experienced also actually.
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We should post a sticky I think in the gambling section explaining gambling in details,I think to explain the risks of gambling more than the benefit of it.Everyone can add content to the sticky as long as is following the strict guidelines of the sticky post creator.There are a lot of resources to build a good sticky post on gambling risks so I will leave this to better post writers than me,I think this idea should help many gamblers here read before they decide to gamble.
I doubt gamblers would recognize such risks or even bother to read them since they believe in themselves that they already know what gambling is. It's kind of like how you know smoking is bad yet you still do it. Kind of a form of stress reliever and enjoyment for themselves. Sadly though, gambling is most often, if not always, seen as something negative which is why gamblers themselves have this same mindset even though they do this themswlvss, causing them to incur addiction to themselves.

Come on, in my opinion the point is not just the thread that discusses the risks of gambling here, but that is only a few pictures of the thread in this part of gambling. There is a lot of discussion in the gambling section, not only the risk of gambling but also strategies, suggestions, problems, etc.

Oh yes this section of gambling is not only intended for gamblers, but for everyone including non-gamblers and prospective gamblers. When they come here, then they will read the risk of gambling (for those who don't know it yet) and maybe for gamblers, threads like there is no point because they already understand about the risks of gambling but for prospective gamblers, thread like that is very useful.
legendary
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The ones who can help the problematic gambler are only those closest to them and that will also be done by themselves, we, as gamblers, can't do anything. Can only hope the best for problem gamblers. Maybe it can only take lessons from the person's problems.

What can you say about the families that repudiate their loved ones that are very addicted to gambling I think that will be the time other people would make a move in helping them I think? I guess there are public sectors from the government that are helping those in need of therapy to help people conquer their problems regarding a gambling addiction, I guess this can be prevented if people would sure ensure that they are accepted from their lost I think they will not going to chase over their loses, I think addiction is triggered by many things.

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The ones who can help the problematic gambler are only those closest to them and that will also be done by themselves, we, as gamblers, can't do anything. Can only hope the best for problem gamblers. Maybe it can only take lessons from the person's problems.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.

Well to be able to help their current situation, they must first realize that gambling can never be profitable in the long-run especially if you view it as an avenue of generating income. With the risks associated, there can be ways to lessen the risk but you can never be so sure that you'll win every single bet that you make.

If gamblers are unable to realize this essential view, they may need the help of their peers, parents, or even loved ones to let them know and support them through his journey. This can never be easy but with the right mind and attitude, one can overcome addiction if he/she is determined to change.
Again, change starts in the mind and through their concrete actions.

In short, there is nothing we can do, unless the person wanted to change himself.  No matter how hard we advise them or try to remind them about their need to get medication regarding their addiction, if the person have no intention of solving it themselves then all of the effort will be in vain.
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And you think your moderated thread can help them? Compulsive gamblers have mental disorders already. Their families, relatives and friends should help them to get therapies and medications. This is not an easy illness and needs real help.   

Without help from their families, relatives, and friends, they cannot solve their problems. They will get into deeper into gambling without having a chance to solve the mental disorders. We cannot help them if they don't have a will by themselves. Besides that, it is difficult to ask someone to go to therapies and get medications because I already face my uncle, who doesn't want to go to the doctor. I think that is the same as what gamblers experiencing too.
It should start with themselves if they want to be cured or not. It's very simple on how are you going to cure an addiction. First, they should focus their self to other things or do other activities, they don't need to cut the gambling in their life in an instant, but they should reduce the time they spent in their gambling session, may for the first week just play for 6 days, then next week for only 5 days. The key to cure it depends on how long they are going to make it, but as long as they are making progress it's all good. It's a step by step process, but yeah, family and relatives support will be a big part of it.
Majority of gamblers would really be shy on telling up their addiction problem into their loved ones that's why they do solo up the problem on their own.
Its true that this cant really be done in a matter of short time. Healing up addiction wont really be that simple if that certain individual doesn't even help out
his self first.Always be aware on possible causes of addiction on the first place.Take yourself had strong self control and discipline on handing with losses and your emotion towards it.
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And you think your moderated thread can help them? Compulsive gamblers have mental disorders already. Their families, relatives and friends should help them to get therapies and medications. This is not an easy illness and needs real help.   

Without help from their families, relatives, and friends, they cannot solve their problems. They will get into deeper into gambling without having a chance to solve the mental disorders. We cannot help them if they don't have a will by themselves. Besides that, it is difficult to ask someone to go to therapies and get medications because I already face my uncle, who doesn't want to go to the doctor. I think that is the same as what gamblers experiencing too.
It should start with themselves if they want to be cured or not. It's very simple on how are you going to cure an addiction. First, they should focus their self to other things or do other activities, they don't need to cut the gambling in their life in an instant, but they should reduce the time they spent in their gambling session, may for the first week just play for 6 days, then next week for only 5 days. The key to cure it depends on how long they are going to make it, but as long as they are making progress it's all good. It's a step by step process, but yeah, family and relatives support will be a big part of it.
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And you think your moderated thread can help them? Compulsive gamblers have mental disorders already. Their families, relatives and friends should help them to get therapies and medications. This is not an easy illness and needs real help.   

Without help from their families, relatives, and friends, they cannot solve their problems. They will get into deeper into gambling without having a chance to solve the mental disorders. We cannot help them if they don't have a will by themselves. Besides that, it is difficult to ask someone to go to therapies and get medications because I already face my uncle, who doesn't want to go to the doctor. I think that is the same as what gamblers experiencing too.
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And you think your moderated thread can help them? Compulsive gamblers have mental disorders already. Their families, relatives and friends should help them to get therapies and medications. This is not an easy illness and needs real help.   
legendary
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.

Nothing we can really do but to talk him out to go for professional help, only a professional people can set up a healing program so they can leave the symptoms so excessive gambling, but still depends on the kind of gambling that he is, if the gambling is deep-rooted we can't then a professional help is the only way to help them heal.
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We should post a sticky I think in the gambling section explaining gambling in details,I think to explain the risks of gambling more than the benefit of it.Everyone can add content to the sticky as long as is following the strict guidelines of the sticky post creator.There are a lot of resources to build a good sticky post on gambling risks so I will leave this to better post writers than me,I think this idea should help many gamblers here read before they decide to gamble.
I doubt gamblers would recognize such risks or even bother to read them since they believe in themselves that they already know what gambling is. It's kind of like how you know smoking is bad yet you still do it. Kind of a form of stress reliever and enjoyment for themselves. Sadly though, gambling is most often, if not always, seen as something negative which is why gamblers themselves have this same mindset even though they do this themswlvss, causing them to incur addiction to themselves.
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Thread in the meta section was about poor posting, right? It's not about problem gamblers here, but more about the signature campaign participants. I agree that campaign participants should be able to choose what section they can contribute the most. The five posts requirement in Gambling is easy actually if you are an experienced gambler, but, some of us here is a beginner.

As for the gambling addiction and whatever else, I think most of us already understand that it's about the game and not the profit. We just have to keep an eye for those who said otherwise.

we already understand those common issues or problems that a gambler can face but the main problem here is that its hard to apply in one self or idk what if gambler are only hard headed because if they are arent then we shouldnt hear the same question/concern again and again  . poor posting is normal on this forum or in this gambling section but there are always an ignore button to ignore those bad posters and there are also active mods that patrols around the forum .
In my opinion, the only way to make someone change his path and correct his direction is by walking few steps with him and know what is in his mind. You can never help someone unless you truly understand him. Gamblers that hold the opinion that they can make money with gambling must be made realize that they have potential to do better and productive things and should not waste them in such games.
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They need to see a doctor to help them properly if they couldn't control their gambling habit even if they are losing a huge amount for me it should be considered as a gambling addiction,
And only the professional could help them if they couldn't do it on their own, But they should also be open to their family so their family members and friend could help them on changing their self.
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I've read that learning mathematics is supposed to help gambling addictions. Knowing just how bad your odds are in most gambling situations is supposed to help out. So go start reading up on statistics and probability. If nothing else, it will make you better at poker and maybe you can start winning.

Another recommendation, sit down right now and write a letter to your future self. Put down on paper what you are feeling and experiencing right now. The idea is to bottle up this shitty feeling so you can experience a dose again in the future when you get the itch to go play poker/dice again. Anytime you feel like going to the casino again, read the letter.
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Thread in the meta section was about poor posting, right? It's not about problem gamblers here, but more about the signature campaign participants. I agree that campaign participants should be able to choose what section they can contribute the most. The five posts requirement in Gambling is easy actually if you are an experienced gambler, but, some of us here is a beginner.

As for the gambling addiction and whatever else, I think most of us already understand that it's about the game and not the profit. We just have to keep an eye for those who said otherwise.

we already understand those common issues or problems that a gambler can face but the main problem here is that its hard to apply in one self or idk what if gambler are only hard headed because if they are arent then we shouldnt hear the same question/concern again and again  . poor posting is normal on this forum or in this gambling section but there are always an ignore button to ignore those bad posters and there are also active mods that patrols around the forum .
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Thread in the meta section was about poor posting, right? It's not about problem gamblers here, but more about the signature campaign participants. I agree that campaign participants should be able to choose what section they can contribute the most. The five posts requirement in Gambling is easy actually if you are an experienced gambler, but, some of us here is a beginner.

As for the gambling addiction and whatever else, I think most of us already understand that it's about the game and not the profit. We just have to keep an eye for those who said otherwise.
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What do you expect gamblers to say here? Everyone here is a casual to addicted gambler so it's going to be difficult to help each other here. All we can do is advise, but still we can't really tell who are going to heed our call here.

I remember way back when someone posted 1-800 numbers, sort of a help line for those who can't really control themselves, but I don't know if it's effective or not.
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Being one of the promoters in a gambling brand name it is hard for being neutral. Giving advice to my fellow gamblers and of course also to protect on the image of the gambling industry not to become a bad side from other people who were reading my post/reply. These are common words that you may hear. Gambling is just for fun, not good for chasing money and not good to treat as a source of income. When you lose at that time, just relax and come back again the next day when you are ready. Those lines were repeatedly said in here and not saying, "ohh, you may stop now never come back".

But overall, only gamblers crazed loser can helf their selves, not you, not me. Giving a guide and a piece of advice will greatly help to them.
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Honestly there's not much we can do, gamblers are good at taking advice, but very hard in employing them they always thought that they can stop anytime, the best help we can offer them is to be constantly beside them and invite them to other activities that will minimize their activity in gambling sites.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.

It may seem as if there aren't any thread dedicated to the gambling crazed losers here, but make no mistake, many of us are already losers. LOL! Gambling should always have that equation lest the gambling sites and casinos will close down. If the gamblers are earning more than the sites and casinos, there must be something wrong with it, and the gambling systems must be changed urgently. The sea should not be the one flowing into the rivers.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.

What do you mean made for the gambling losers? You mean advises for them?

If that is so, the secret to winning is changing your tactics. Basically if you are going to do the same thing again and again, and most of the outcomes aren't promising, why don't you try to change your betting style and try to trace some patterns that will lead to much higher profit? One of the things to consider is to bet where the whales/big betters are especially if you are uncertain in your decision.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.

No one can help those gamblers to cure his addiction but himself only. We can give so many suggestions to him, but if he doesn't want to move from the worst situation to a better situation and go to psychiatry, then it's no use. We can help them to solve their problems addicting in gambling if they ask our help, and they want to remove their bad habit. Only a few people can tell their problem in the addicting of gambling, so it is hard to help them. But perhaps, we can motivate them to reduce their time in gambling so they can understand how to reduce their time in gambling.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.
We can’t expect gamblers to post anything here aside from winning, losing and betting because that is the purpose of this section and I think gamblers are active on every discussion here because they know how to play it. Well if you want to understand every thread then you must be a good gambler.
As long as you've gambled before, you can join to the discussion and you don't need to be a good gambler though. Gambling discussion's board one purpose is to help everyone in developing their skills in gambling by applying and sharing ideas given by other players who has more experience and disciplinary act.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.
We can’t expect gamblers to post anything here aside from winning, losing and betting because that is the purpose of this section and I think gamblers are active on every discussion here because they know how to play it. Well if you want to understand every thread then you must be a good gambler.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.

Well to be able to help their current situation, they must first realize that gambling can never be profitable in the long-run especially if you view it as an avenue of generating income. With the risks associated, there can be ways to lessen the risk but you can never be so sure that you'll win every single bet that you make.

If gamblers are unable to realize this essential view, they may need the help of their peers, parents, or even loved ones to let them know and support them through his journey. This can never be easy but with the right mind and attitude, one can overcome addiction if he/she is determined to change.
Again, change starts in the mind and through their concrete actions.
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Gamblers will always have to deal in their roles and responsibilities in life, there is a need to weight their biggest WHY they keep playing and WHY they should stop gambling. There are already many posts or merely rants of gamblers I've read before that only telling him what can be the outcome of too much gambling and to learn from his experience. Maybe now, some gamblers learn or they just don't want to waste their money now that the market is in bearish season.
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Seeking help if you're actively aware you've got a problem with gambling is definitely a legitimate course of action to take. While I don't see gambling as a problem for most people, and most people I know and see around here seem to be responsible with gambling and recognize the risks of gambling as well as the mathematical reasons (house edge, etc) behind why it's impossible (most of the time) to make money from gambling, there's a point where you shouldn't be dealing with it purely by yourself anymore if you're not capable of stopping an addiction to gambling or really anything at all.

If one of your friends or people you know visibly has a problem with gambling, you can always try to get professional help with gambling for them if they're willing. I've already done this for some people I knew in the past, and though some people are too deep into the hole they've dug to stop, a simple talk can sometimes be what makes one of these people wake up.
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honestly? Few people can cure an addiction, the adrenaline of winning gets stronger each time the person wins, and defeat becomes a strong catalyst for the person to continue playing. Even if we take the gambling addict for treatment with a doctor, it will be difficult for the addict to heal if he is not surrounded by calm, thoughtful people who are willing to help. and when I talk about calm, thoughtful, willing people to help, I'm referring to the kind of people who won't freak out when the addict sells his goods to gamble.
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They don't need intervention from random strangers and co-degenerates on the internet: they need real help from psychiatrists and their loved ones. Sure we can always reiterate that gambling makes them lose their money but at the end of the day, their own urge to gamble is within their control and not ours. Their loved ones can persuade them away from doing such but then again, if they're deeply into it, there's no way their family can save them.
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Most repeated statements on each of the gambling section's threads are

1) Gambling is for fun.

2) Never bet more than you can afford to lose

But these things said in different ways to different kind of query.So gamblers needs to understand those both things then they are not in any serious problem.
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It is their mind, however we try if the user himself hasn't thought of giving up there is no chance of getting out of gambling addiction. Another important thing is the loneliness, people who are addicted should be left alone. When left alone even if they're in control the mind easily makes them go try the luck. They need a job or something that keeps them active, only then they'll leave gambling.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.

They need professional help this is an addiction and all forms of addiction needs professional help if you can be his constant companion and if you can have him to listen to you, you can lead him to get help from professional help, that's the only way to cut him off from being a chronic gambler and return to normal life, I doubt if they can help themselves, they need outside help, and a friend is a good help from outside.
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The Eastern proverb says "don't be a hero, have mercy on yourself and don't try to change the world because the world can shift focus".  basically we can not help someone if that person does not want to change.  only their lost money is desired by the losing gambler, they will not need advice or words of wisdom.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.

I think there's a lot of similar threads like this before they are either buried or locked by the moderators for further spamming,
about your post, the best way to help them is for them to realize that they are very much hooked on gambling, chronic gamblers are always in denial that they are hooked on gambling, telling people that they can stop if they want, but that's not true, they are just lying and do not have a capability to do that, only help from family and friends and rehabilitation can help them.
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It is hard to help a gambler to realize that they are making wrong with their life. That will be the same if we remain the alcoholic to stop drink alcohol. If they have a reliable power to prevent themselves from their habit, then we can help them. Otherwise, we cannot do anything except we stayed beside them when they played. At least, we can suggest to them to stop while they can and don't wait until the money is gone.
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Just tell them that they must have self-control and know what is a risk. Gamblers always to gamble because that is already their habit. But we can help them through advice. Sometimes we think that it's better to put in rehab, but for me, I don't know if that makes help. Or probably a good help if we change the gambling addicts environment and avoid gambling for a while and divert the attention into other stuff that makes them busy. Nevertheless, through the help of their self, they will himself in that way.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.
Only the sensible gamblers would survive and the greedy ones would be heavily experienced consequences that they havent met ever.
I cant deny that this board do have lots of mega threads repeating up comments and opinions all over again but non surprising since this is
a forum after all and come to think that not all people would have the same mindset on how they would react or comment into things on where we could really able to tell the difference.

Stopping or tending to help other gamblers? They are the only ones who can help out theirselves or else they would learn up things after such
problem been experienced.
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None I think. Even people with little money will try to gamble.

We should post a sticky I think in the gambling section explaining gambling in details,I think to explain the risks of gambling more than the benefit of it.
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Something similar to "Cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health" and then showing an image of a disease caused by smoking on the cigarette box/pack? Smokers tends to ignore that warning and gamblers will do the same.



This is the gambling section mate. Maybe ask admin to create a Anti-Gambling section or some gambler's therapy board.

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We should post a sticky I think in the gambling section explaining gambling in details,I think to explain the risks of gambling more than the benefit of it.Everyone can add content to the sticky as long as is following the strict guidelines of the sticky post creator.There are a lot of resources to build a good sticky post on gambling risks so I will leave this to better post writers than me,I think this idea should help many gamblers here read before they decide to gamble.
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The thing that we can do to help problematic gamblers is to provide constant reminders of what gambling is and what is the effect if they will continue what they are doing but mind you it might be hard because most of the can’t appreciate the reminder and they might think that you reminding them the pros and cons of gambling as very helpful. However, if the person involve is a close family member then better seek professional help for them.
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No one can actually help a gambler but himself/herself. If you are addicted to something, you know that even if people, whether a close one or not, give you advice it won't stop you from doing something you are crazy about. For them, gambling is like a drug that they can't stop. That is why as early as you can learn to moderate your self, or if you know you can't move away from gambling. Gambling is supposed to be a habit to entertain people. It should be a means to relieve stress, spend time for yourself and socialize. But, due to the chance of earning easy money, it makes people greedy.
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Embarking on a quest to gamble and turn $20 into $200 can be more fun, safe and exciting than gambling with large sums of money. There are bitcoin gambling sites and sportsbooks that accept 0.0001 BTC minimum bets, which could allow people to enjoy gambling recreationally without breaking their bank. Gambling as an addiction could be similar to substance addiction where quitting cold turkey isn't necessarily the best policy. A person suffering from depression on anti-depressants could damage their health if they stop taking medication, all at once. The best option could be to gradually decrease the dosage.

Personally, I am an active sports gambler. The best I can put this into perspective is, the better a person is able to eliminate money from the equation, the more successful a gambler they can be. A person who thinks about money and how much they can profit from making a bet, often loses. The lure of money and wealth exerts a powerful negative effect on cognitive function.
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I was reading meta section and saw a thread complaint about poor posting in the gambling section. I came to the section and look at some threads and realized there did not seem to be any threads made for the gambling crazed losers. Thus I posted this.
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