Topic: Profit realisation (Read 292 times)

After reaching 8500 he made another profit realisation that resulted to see 8000s. Now it is going for another ride, probably will make a few similar moves. Then a steep rise to 9k level. If you are a daytrader there are great opportunities. Do not stay on summit too much it will eventually collapse. i dont expect it to reach 10k but this minor loops are very similar to previous intermediate trend rise.

Many experts are attributing BTC’s sudden rise to a number of high-profile endorsements from the financial world. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2018/07/17/big-for-bitcoin-goldman-sachs-new-ceo-is-keen-on-crypto/

The new chief executive of US investment bank Goldman Sachs is reportedly interested in the market. That's an indication that new money is flowing into the entire sector rather than to major currencies only. And it means that the rally may have “legs” before it tapers off. I think that Bitcoin will reduce in value for a little bit but later onwards increase in value once big corporations such as Goldman Sachs and Blackrock start to adopt cryptocurrencies in their current business models.

He made his move , created another green bar for everbody to think it is rising, with that rise a new minor trend is starting, expecting more green candles in a few day , but dont forget sooner or later he is going to realise his profit. He will support the price till realisation. But after minor trend another will start so no need to sell, every minor trend will be similar to previous so that price will rise. i also expect 5 minor trends that creates a rising intermediate trend.I will try to find top of that hill, it maybe last summit over 6k.

i already think that price can go below 6k in mid-term but before that manipulator will play more up and down , this minor trends will create an intermediate trend that goes to 7-8k s then we can expect another drop. He is busy with more profiting right now and if new bottoms are not below previous bottoms technically it is rising. But this intermediate trend will be less inclined according too last month.

Nice price analysis and pointing out that bottom but checking out the price today? You will surely said price is very unpredictable which is totally true. I do even believe we are heading again on 5800+ price floor once again if this price decrease would gradually continue.Out for those price range or movement we can able to utilize or make shortings and profiting on a short period of time yet volatility would really be just enough to make such profits.

This unfortunately.
Would take somebody with VERY VERY deep pockets to control the market by themselves.

Are you crazy, How this possible in only one guy rule the crypto market. All the investors and miners are major role in Crypto pump and dump so we don't predict anything in bearish market. But this year we should expect some good move on November so stay hold the crypto investment.

Wow, that's interesting. Seems many of us didn't realize that, well i didn't though. That's one beauty of the crypto market. You dont realize whenever the moon time is approaching because you continue to anticipate higher even with the kittle pump. Welk, if this is the organic proce that we need to start from the maybe we're good now. Let's hope for a better price soon.

Stability is just one of many strategies. Rich people from wall street gradually get full control over bitcoin and then can do anything with it. Stability is only needed for bitcoin to be used as a currency. But such a task is not for speculators. They make a lot of money on instability. The more bitcoin falls in price now, the more it will rise later.

steepness is based on angle , that bars are steep , yes they are not big but thats not our subject here, manipulators use steep moves to trigger bots and humans , free market doesnt do this kind of moves much often , so you can easily cath a manip with these bars.
 I ve already explained these on my articles , will translate eng asap.
  that you can read message is for user shulio he knows Turkish

i am not denying existence of manipulation and manipulators. i am saying you are overthinking it and exaggerating their power and effects.

i didn't say you don't see green bars, i said those green bars are not "steep".
each of these are still small rises although they look big when you zoom in and look at them only. the first rise which is the biggest is a jump back above the buy support line which is natural when price falls below it, has little to do with manipulation. and a $300 rise in $6300 seems big but it is only 4% rise which is nothing for bitcoin.

if you want real "green dildos" then take a look at April 12 where price went up 20% in less than 4 hours. and followed by a 45% rise in 2 weeks.

again, i am not saying there is no manipulation, but i say you are exaggerating the small movements that are the natural course of the small bitcoin market with lots of weak hands in it.
something like the drop below $10k was a clear manipulation where price wanted to stay above that strong buy support but large quantities of bitcoin were constantly being dumped on the orderbooks to push the price down and put pressure on it until it breaks down.
now we are just at the bottom with a lot of fear and a lot of accumulation at the same time.

i don't speak Turkish

with a simple move you can trigger bots and they do the rest for you, manipulators are expert at this type of moves, they know how to trigger them.He is controlling huge amount of money but i dont say all that money is belong to him. We cant know this, we can just see how he controlls how he moves


dont say that i cant see steep rises just look at that green dildos

i know people are affected from news but manipulators use this kind of news as a moving time. He just wait a bad news for a drop or a good news for a rise. A lot of time in btc's history it rised or dropped without a news.
thanks for your kindness, you can read my articles that gives info about how to cath manipulative moves.
i cant give picture of that man but i can say these moves are manipulative.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/manipulatif-analize-giri-1-4543408 MAG 1
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/manipulatif-analize-giri-2-4560873 MAG 2
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/manipulatif-analize-giri-3-4598560 MAG 3
unfortunately they are in local lang but i know you can read.

Have you heard butterfly effect ?

Michael Jackson, definitely

Of course a single whale cant , they combine their forces, they know how to be strong, if you are good at your job you know other people like you find them and join them, thats what they do. They control our emotions, bear or bull they choose what is easiest, they create moves for market and market follows them. They are like catalysts in chemical reactions. We follow them and cause a bigger wave.

You can look at here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/this-is-not-the-rise-you-are-looking-for-3326533
for my comment on i rise that people were thinking too pinky about rising and you know how it ended

thanks for the information that everybody knows.

i know it seems weird, but there are ways to follow him, i have articles about analysis of this , they are not english and not finished but will start them in English and post till that day you can follow me 


we shouldnt talk too much about his next move , he can see us and cancel it, sshh!

No.....

How do you know the "manipulator" wasn't trying to keep a lid on price? How could you tell whether the market ran over the "manipulator", or if he succeeded? You can't. That's why I don't focus on these made-up boogeymen.

The market is an organism. Any one participant can be negated by another at any time. You're asking, "What will the manipulator do next?" But you should be asking, "Who is out position, bulls or bears? Which direction will cause the most pain?" The market is all about causing maximum pain to as many people as possible.

The "manipulator" mentality is well-suited to that. Most traders are in pain, losing money, most of the time. When they lose more money, they turn around and blame the "manipulator" instead of doing proper TA and managing their risk.

I see stupidity 101 here. Your view of the market is horrifying at the very least. Not everyone gets profits and not everyone gets profit at the same level. People expect different things from the market, and they make their trades accordingly. You must know that the prices increase or decrease due to demand and supply and come and meet at one point called as market equilibrium with equilibrium price and equilibrium quantity. Learn economics, you'll understand.

A single whale can't move the entire market like this so we can assume few bitcoin based investment funds are behind this swings. To have strong bull run like last year, we need to have multiple positive news out in the market where newbie investors start to pour their money with FOMO and other whales will fuel it more buy pushing price even higher.

Bitcoin holds speculative value so it is related with traders emotion, right now every traders have lost their will to invest more. We are still in bear market.

Then who's this guy you are blaming that's manipulating the market? actually we have the same idea but mine it's not a single person alone but they are group.

I'll stop thinking whoever is that person or who they are.

What you have to do is to ride with it so if ever the market drops again, pull some bucks on your pocket and start buying.

 This is definitely not a one man thing.
There is way too much volume

Fortunately for those who have taken advantage of such a situation, within a few days they have made a fortune by re-buying at such a low price now, the price drops because of the many coins they sell to buy again at a very low price, excellent pricing strategy used them, especially the hacking news that is happening right now is making a hit back at $ 6,300, so lucky I followed in his footsteps.

I assume the manipulator is an organization where all of them plans how would they move bitcoin as for their perspective income. Price manipulation cannot be done by only one person so I think it is a organization with full of businessmen and millionaires that has so much money they manipulate the price of a certain product, asset or investment as they wanted to, I really think price manipulation exist because if it doesn't then speculating or predicting the value would much more easier.

The manipulator = bots (controlled by whatever entities) respecting resistance points.

I think it's safe to say that the market this year has more than ever been controlled by bots rather than retailers. The market right now is far too calculated and stable in comparison to how the market was behaving last year. This is the direct result of professionals entering this space and probably will control and stabilize it further in the forthcoming years, especially if they manage to squeeze retailers out of their positions which is only a matter of time.

Bitcoin knocked on the door of wall street and now we'll get it in full glory.

It only means that the market is volatile and those people who sell their coins earlier which makes the price of bitcoins to dump are just not good enough to handle the pressure in the market.

Thinking only one guy increases and decreases the price is bullshit. You have no proof but just your imagination.

you are overthinking things specially since you think it is one person controlling the bitcoin market with its $4 billion daily volume!

the rises in July has never been "steep". there is only which you can call "steep" and that is the rise after falling below $6800 and the rise had nothing to do with manipulation, this type of "jump back up" happens when price goes below a certain strong buy support and it is happening because it is "buy support" which means people are buying there and have their eyes on that price to jump in.

it dropped back down because of the last day's news about $10-20 million hack of some exchange and most probably because the altcoins were getting dumped hard because of that news (it was an altcoin exchange).

Great analyzation, and its true that they take profit so they can buy more in this deep market. I see the previos trend as a real pump not until right now it dumps rapidly up to $6300 level. Hope those giant guys will come back soon so we will not be lower than support level again.

Hopefully we'll be experiencing that bull in few days ahead, and I am still positively having strong dedications to hold all the coins that I got. Everything is possible with bitcoin and those chances that other people who were trading at wrong points, had missed out their bigger chance to benefit from this current price large fluctuations which means profit after all. We need not to have and end of our tale here, but the most important strategies to have right now is our goal to become much stronger, and never just judge the trend right aways because it may give us good surprises unexpectedly.

We have seen 4 steep rises since july 1 from 5800 to 6800. It was our cute manipulator obviously. He rised price and after 10 days price dropped from 6800 to 6300 , everybody wonders why but it was a profit realisation. He sold whatever he collected and gained profit. We have seen similar moves at last months but all that minor trend's bottoms finished lower then previous bottom, so last intermediate trend was bearish before july. What we see on this 10 day minor trend is different, new bottom 6300 is higher than previous bottom 5800. If we assume this cute guy sold all his btcs he has fiat now and can start his steep rises in a few days. So we can expect a bullish intermediate trend is borning.