Topic: Promoters of scammers and scams are not welcome here. (Read 377 times)

Bitcoin Stack Exchange would be the best source for any technical question in my opinion. It's easier to navigate, and more technically inclined/coders post/answer the questions there, https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/

gmaxwell, thank you for keeping this board free from technical spammers. But I want to ask you a question. Since there is a lot of bitcoin knowledge across old threads in this board, how should a new user like me begin searching through them? I'd rather get my information here than read someone's hastily-put-together blockchain guide on the internet, but I'll make an exception for Andreas Antonopoulos's mastering bitcoin book.

So after (if I should) read that, what topics should I be searching for first here?

You're right! As the stupid one in the forum, I change my mind, and I'm willing to learn, and be open, to the idea of sharding a decentalized ledger WITHOUT an auditor, learn the difficulties, and learn if it's truly viable FOR BITCOIN.

OK smart ones, bring on the proposals.


It's good for reference, especially for old debates.


BUT for rehashed debates, we should read and refer back to the old topics. You have your right to go back to them too, and debate them again.


It's promising, if it's easy for Bitcoin.

aliashraf, your reply is easily read as an attempt to turn an unrelated thread into a debate about some technology you like and/or ethereum. Please avoid doing that.

Seriously? You are looking forward to censoring sharding proposals?  

OP, Gregory Maxwell, believes in "old threads" magically having all the answers and thinking out-of-the-box being just _rehashing_ some stupid trisector type of claim.

He has a right to think so, you too, BUT, and it is a really big BUT, such an attitude is not appropriate for moderating a technical subforum, neither it helps anybody to contribute effectively here.

Sharding has been discussed a few times in this forum and has proved itself as a decent and promising scaling idea. Ethereum folks are implementing a version of sharding meanwhile, it is not perfect, imo, but once they show up with a sharding solution that is somehow acceptable and justifiable, what you and your mentor have to say? Referring people to old threads in which ironically, nobody has ever refuted the idea?

So long Bitcoin (and "blockchain" spit) is a fad technology we're going to suffer our share of trisectors.  If they're polite, not taking over additional threads, etc... then I think these discussions can be educational for the community even if the trisector themselves never learns (because everyone else can learn from the discussion). Plus, genuine insight does occasionally come from a discussion that doesn't initially look promising.  The important thing is that people broadly find this to be a worthwhile place to discuss things.

This hasn't always been the case-- we've certainly had people with a favourite snakeoil flavour that make a nuisance of themselves across many threads derailing them by pushing them into discussing their panacea and turning the thread into a debate about that instead of the original subject. It doesn't have to be motivated by a scam any more than trisection, squaring the circle, or any other common crank material is... though scams seem to make it worse.  This kind of activity should strongly discouraged, and if you find yourself being frustrated by it happening-- prod the mods.   Even better: don't reply to it *and* prod the mods. It's much easier to split off an off-topic tangent into a separate thread when it hasn't garnished a bunch of interesting responses which are half-way pulling the discussion back on topic.

Many of us (especially myself) could do a better job of aggressively linking prior discussions instead of rehashing it when someone brings up some perennial proposal.  I'll try to hand out lots of merit for simple posts with correct citations to prior discussions. (e.g. just links and a few words of explanation as to why the link is appliacble if required). I suspect if rehash discussions got linkbombed they'd be a lot less disruptive.

What about unproven, and not-thoroughly tested "technical solutions" like sharding, which can be marketed as a "scaling solution", but in reality, can also be blockchain-snake-oil.

Posts by anyone promoting Wright/BSV will be removed from this subforum.  This subforum is for technical discussion related to Bitcoin but is not useful for that purpose when discussions are repeatability derailed by people with scam to market or an axe to grind.

Posters promoting other scammers, scams, or knock-off cryptocurrencies may receive similar treatment in the future if they are similarly annoying.

There are plenty of other less focused subforums which are more willing to entertain a broad spectrum of raving fraudsters.