Topic: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA (Read 1057 times)

U got a noc fp
Or just half a rack

I said use CB for their merchant processing and then SWEEP into electrum for your vault wallets

first 1M in btc is FREE in trans at CB

so you doing over 1M in btc?

really you that big

Overstock says btc blows its under 1% of 1.5B so overstock does maybe 10M or so btc

average merchant will never get near 1M btc trans

if they do they do 100M or more legit cc's

that's public company ranges

so you a public company needing 6 servers running core?

are they legit servers or virtual servers

so far I see numbers and nothing backing it up

I gave the OP that node site to show 8K

before that 500 at blockchain was the biggest

now you're saying you need core on 6 servers to process clients payments?

as I said up to 1M CB is a fine solution

then you SWIPE THE DOUGH to electrum

now if you doing over 1M in BTC transactions

that's 100M of a legit biz

unless you do what gambling

you running satoshidice

haha

I don't see any legit hosting situation needing 6 core servers brother

if you do, ok, but it's high volume gambling or you run a mega network of merchants doing over 100M and I'd bet against the later

gambling yawn, yeah they do lots of trans in btc

nobody else does

drugs did silk rd

now it's satoshidice

no one else doing big btc trans numbers it's why trans are FLAT for over a year now

it's a hoarders commodity more than a currency

read the CRS report, that's about all I agree with in the report

people HOARD btc

but the velocity of the currency is it is doing tenfold increases FAST

I don't know why I'm still replying to this but Electrum doesn't have a good API (does it have one?) it can't keep track of each users balance like bitcoin-core can and Electrum servers can do bad things like pretend transactions didn't happen, while bitcoin-core is completely trustless. And I also connect direct to the pools and relay transactions direct to them so that I am sure my customers payments will confirm in case they didn't broadcast correctly (happens a lot to people with crap internet).

On top of that the Electrum code isn't as well studied as bitcoin-core and could have really bad bugs, I ain't taking that risk, look what happened to mt gox! (well, what they say happened).

Use coinbase? LOL Why would I pay them commision? why should I trust them when I don't need to? They will probably pull a massive scam someday say they were hacked like every other service that "holds" your bitcoins for you.

I also use some of the nodes for cool experiments, like trying to de-anonymize scammers (psst).

now wait, you have 6 servers with core on them and you don't mind?

what are you doing chasing transactions?

makes zero sense to claim to have servers loaded with core and do no mining

what you gonna use a full blown core for

go bang your merchant biz through coinbase and swipe to electrum or something you don't need a full core on a server to do merchant trans for yourself

last I heard no money in doing transactions yet either

now 99% of those core downloads are by MORONS the 99% of the world that is what you call sheeple

those easily led

MORONS

they can't unzip a file let alone untar one

they can't ftp to a server and do chmod or initialize a script

so again

downloads mean nothing

one site says they have 400 nodes I questioned it and a geek said no one with a brain uses blockchain, agree, it's morons with online wallets

so dude says here's the backbone 8K nodes

now you are saying oh it's bigger look at downloads

you want 5Million youtube downloads or 50K twitter followers or 5K facebook looks

ROBOTS ARE THE NET it's all fake 95% of it

95% of fb is fake 95% of twitter is fake

WORTHLESS COMPANIES

WILL NEVER MAKE BIG MONEY NEITHER OF THEM

no legit biz model

traffic means squat

you need a business to buy your power

FB and Twitter are never ever gonna make big money

all bs value through IPS by thieves called wall street bankers and lawyers

dude a robot can download crap

the site I listed shows 8K live nodes

no one has more

if they know of a site showing more nodes

PLEASE POST

until then I believe what I see

downloads are bs, most downloads are FAKE, you do know that 95% of the net is now bogus traffic right

china is banging US servers, trying to stop ecommerce

all these people look at their logs and see thousands of visits, and yet if they had 30 real eyeballs they're luck

haha

the net is a mess, complete joke, 95% bogus traffic, bandwidth drains all over, more viruses than you can count, and yeah now you got a new currency of nothing wallets swimming in the cess pool of the 'net'

yeah you do biz on it, but unless you really can read a LOG, 95% of the net is bs

sorry to bust bubbles but I got way back to 1995 on the modern net, and it was a joke then, and now it's worse

very few people can use it to MAKE MONEY and BIG MONEY 99% of the people claiming to make money on the net are BS

the best biz model for real on the net is fractions of domains, the reason is simple, if you can OWN a major keyword like a professional term and then fraction it to end users in 100 to 1000 cities via geo sub domains, then you have 3K a month on average for rent per subdomain times 10 or 100 or 1000 users

THAT'S THE ONLY PROVEN METHOD I'VE SEEN

I don't want to be amazon all that traffic and they still can't make money

Amazon is a joke

Now google, they make money

Bing and yahoo jokes

so GOOGLE has search ppc down

other than that, none of the companies MAKE MONEY imo

amazon loser
bing loser
yahoo loser

a bunch of VC wallets pushed the crap that can't make money on IPOS that now institutions hold and all scratch their heads when are these companies gonna make money

MS made dough in 80's and 90's

now Google and Apple are it

Itunes
Google

That's the big dough in tech

the rest is smoke and mirrors

IPO chasers

now fractions of domains, you don't need much traffic, you can manage any city for a client, but 10 clicks a day for 20 to 200 a click and as long as you know IM you produce LEADS

you get paid

earn 3K or more a CITY

do the math

3K average client times 10 or 100 or 1000 city sub domains

DOMAIN FRACTION is where you make dough now

sure google has search locked up

itunes for now has music locked up

oh you have a traffic site, really and who buys your bs ads

adsense?

haha

chump change

DOMAIN FRACTIONS is the game

btc is interesting since it's FRACTIONS too

so fractions of wealth is how you maximize an asset value

fraction those bitcoins baby

fraction those high cpc value keywords for professionals

FRACTIONS RULE

Thats only the nodes that Blockchain's node is connected to right now, and its limited to max 500 at a time. They can only monitor 500 at a time which is why like I said it's difficult to monitor every node, even for someone as big as blockchain.


I tried to read your explanation but I got a headache, your writing style isn't the easiest to digest...


Not all nodes are miners. None of my 6 nodes mine. Many websites and services need to run full nodes too. Nodes are run by merchants and pools, things like that, not miners or people by in large.


There is definitely more than 8,000 I can promise you that...


It's not easy or cheap to get the IP of every node. Back in 2011 when there was very little Bitcoin users there was a site that listed 10,000 nodes, I forget where it is or if it still exists. But even if you look at the amount of downloads for bitcoin-core or the bootstrap.dat torrent on a daily basis, you can see there must be way more than 8,000 nodes out there.

I would love to try and count all the nodes using ZMap, maybe one day when I have time and spare money for a powerful enough server I'll do it. Even then though I would only be able to count those listening.

can you show a site with more nodes than that

blockchain have only 400 or so nodes on their network

that report is the most I've seen

the thing about numbers is one you get pass 100, the next 100 is close to the first 100 and the next is closer and the next is closer

that's how numbers work

so when you have 100 to sample and it says something X % that number is usually close to accurate for the next 10 sets of 100

so 1000 ratio is very close to 100 ratio

that's how numbers work

almost 8K nodes and they show 40%+ usa yet franky was no way that's WRONG

now you're saying yeah it's right but you think 8K nodies is off

personally it sounds right to me, 8K full core servers doing mining

most people don't mine

most people aren't that deeply involved with btc other than they have a wallet at blockchain and have a few bucks in it

8K is the core user base IMO and that's the group getting the mining done

now if you have a site with way more nodes show it

I doubt it exists I've been asking a while and that's the best site so far

but I appreciate your input

thanks

I think what franky1 was saying is that these sites can't monitor the entire bitcoin network, they can only monitor a very small amount of listening nodes so you're not getting the full picture. Additionally these sites can't easily monitor nodes that don't listen (unless those nodes happen to connect to them) which is about 95% of them.

I'd say 40% is about accurate. This is mostly due to the low cost of VPS/Dedi servers in the US compared to the rest of the world. I have 6 nodes in the US for this reason.

About the 2 million IP's, keep in mind that figure includes recycled IP's, if you're on a dynamic IP it'll keep changing and you'll keep adding onto that. It's not easy to tell exactly how many unique nodes there are. One node could have many IP's or it's IP could regularly change.

Another loser that thinks he understands btc was trying to tell me 2M IP's at blockchain is the nodes

haha

MORON

https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/

7K+ nodes 40%+ in USA

there you got LOSER

I win

YOU LOSE LOSER