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March 05, 2020, 06:05:05 PM
#55
Well, it's not the first time when Russia is doing such things. They don't even ask, they just block you. Censorship in this country is going to be mad in the next years and it doesn't concern the internet only, but also a real life for example Moscow already has cameras scanning your face and recognizing systems.

This is not Russia to blame. This is an armed seizure of power (English subtitles are)
Russia is fighting
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUI6AdTuisk (English subtitles are)
Find the masked loafers at the end of the video?
The entire law enforcement system of Russia has been turned into a thieves' service staff.
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What a wicked power in our country, one does not even believe in the reality of what is happening
So what are we waiting for? Election them can not be eliminated is not it clear? In Ukraine, people were shot at and are still being killed, and they are suffering.
Alexei, well, look for yourself, you call these comrades (or I don’t know what to call them, you won’t call them people), and bandits and crooks and thieves, without even insulting, but only stating the facts, in other words, all these comrades are just criminals . Then I have a question. What makes you think that criminals will turn into an institution of noble girls and will behave with dignity ?? No, I dare to assure you, this will not happen, but this has not happened in nature. They do not have such concepts as conscience, shame, dignity, honor and so on. All that is is a position of power, and everything, further only a big fat point. And accordingly, from a position of strength, they can take away money and everything that they can carry away, just like Shestun’s life and health and home and family and everything that was taken away. And what can one expect from a criminal - a constructive dialogue or compromise? No, you can only expect a vile attack from around the corner, which is what happens in principle. Speak they subjugated the courts and prosecutors! No, they subjugated the law! Maybe there is nothing wrong with the fact that only some guys have all the money, the law, the authorities and the security forces. Here is just one problem, this is not a company of noble people, these are criminals. And this must be understood very well. So to keep money in banks with criminals is at least irresponsible, and to be surprised that they disappeared is simply a waste of time. It would be strange if they had not disappeared Smiley)
- Do you want the 90s to come back ?! - Of course not ! - And they are back!
You are a naive person. They did not return, they did not go anywhere. Just the chaos of the brothers (by the way, it was possible to agree with them) was transformed into the chaos of the authorities (officials, courts, prosecutors, police), and you will never agree with them. Brothers plucked businessmen, current thieves and bandits plucked the whole country ... So the 90th compared to today - flowers!
In the 90s there was nothing to worry about! Houses exploded as they explode. Low salaries were then, there are now. There was a small and medium business. There was a gangster racket, he became a bureaucrat. By the way, there were not so many homeless people, however, as well as black realtors. There was democracy, there were hopes, the eternal drunk and cheerful President. There were not so many beggars, there were not so many officials, there were not so many oligarchs and priests. There were many hospitals and schools. Poorly provided, but the staff was still competent. The ruble fell, and goods, shops, and purchasing power appeared. Why scare 90 youth? Everything was fine there. It's time to scare today.
For example, in the 90s, Chechen bandits did not carry in their pocket the identification card of an FSB officer and a star of the Hero of Russia. They were just gangsters.
Manager Junior, why Chechens ?! This your statement is true and applies to absolutely all bandits now. And what kind of ksiv in their pockets and trinkets on the chest - it does not matter ...
@ Kos Mos what a mature opinion, we have so many anti-corruption fighters. Well, tell me at least one other famous person investigating the shadow capital of officials and covering injustices across the country, can not you? I personally don’t give a shit about what Navalny is in life, what he does is much more significant and stronger than all the words of bureaucrats and screen pi * dabols over the past ten years at least.
The state is struggling with the anti-corruption fund🤣 This is only possible in the Russian Federation! 👏👏
There is such a profession, robbing Russia.
Here's an example for you: a bank card block for any disobedience - and you're nobody .. here and think whether you need to keep money on the card and in the bank
19 only in the office ... 25 more in the street ... 80 more in the offices ... 9000 more in the suction ... another 1,500,000 in collusion with the organized crime group ... Only The Hague!
The government is always not enough, these bastards are ready to squeeze every penny out of the people right up to blocking and stealing accounts!
17 loafers counted) and they carry Alexei in their arms, here it is glory!)))
Here is an evil dwarf, even stole money from children's accounts, but what is there to be surprised they robbed all the children of our country
Ohhh, Deripska has surfaced. The story with the fish girl has already been forgotten, and you can get excited against Navalny. Restless...
How pitiful the AUTHORITY looks ... You cannot "cover" your dirty deeds, and decided that it is easier to block accounts ?!
"Impomenty" is the most important state-forming estate in the Russian Federation. New term. I sincerely ask you to excuse me citizens with erectile dysfunction. All matches are random.
Putin screams everywhere - within the law, within the law !!! I want to ask - but THIS - under what law? Can someone enlighten a lawyer with 18 years of experience?
Didn’t he steal money from all families in Russia?
It’s interesting, but what did you want from an authoritarian, thieves and completely corrupt with permission
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March 05, 2020, 12:07:04 PM
#54

Well, it's not the first time when Russia is doing such things. They don't even ask, they just block you. Censorship in this country is going to be mad in the next years and it doesn't concern the internet only, but also a real life for example Moscow already has cameras scanning your face and recognizing systems.
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March 29, 2017, 06:09:19 AM
#52
I use yandex too, simple and no ads, and quite similar to gmail. This say, i prefer having my own domain and host it, using roundcube, ugly like hell but minimalisc and straigh to the point. I don't like email providers with interface looking like i don't know how to say...

A good alternative to protonmail is Tutanota, it'is a german webmail service that encrypts emails from A to Z (and locally in the browser Grin) as well between the users of the service as external users. You can specify a password that you provide and they will be able to read your message directly on the Tutanota site by entering the password.
they have no password in database. All the encryption/decryption process passes through browsers. So, if you forget your password, well you have it in the ass. Grin
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March 28, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
#51
I also love gmail and google. I found out about proton mail when I was looking for some alternatives because I wanted it serste from gmail. Proton mail is very good I like using it and it's interface is pleasing to the eye and not cluttered. Its relaxing to use. Another favourite I have is gmx.com and yandex. But handed has been funny lately. They said my newly crested account only a week or so old was being tampered with or something and I had to contact them to get it back. Pretty annoying.

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March 23, 2017, 10:30:52 AM
#50
Well, how about firefox? Firefox is also donation only, and it seems to be doing pretty well.
A little off-topic but currently Firefox/Mozilla is performing awfully. They seem to be caring more about BS social code of conducts and designing a new logo instead of actually developing their software. Didn't help that Mozilla got rid of their CEO for no real reason.
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March 23, 2017, 09:58:25 AM
#49
I used protonmail as it supports anonymity unlike goggle's email. Protonmail doesn't need your real phone number to verify it and just accepts whatever information you give it. Also they have an onion version of the mail which is really nice to be anonymous! Some people have concerns about it not being able to scale to goggle's size. Well, how about firefox? Firefox is also donation only, and it seems to be doing pretty well.
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March 23, 2017, 09:22:06 AM
#48
You need to see the bigger picture here. Protonmail is funded by a "donation" and "subscription" service and would always lack the funding to build capacity like Google. When they run out of resources, they rely on "donations" to increase their capacity to allow for more people to join their service.  
You have a good point there. This indeed explains that in some cases (so far I haven't experienced it yet) they don't allow free registrations due to the lack of funds to further expand their whole service.

That being said, I am sure that when you happen to register a paid plan, that you at all times can get their service to work, and thus can avoid waiting for free registrations to become available again.
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March 23, 2017, 01:20:21 AM
#47
Gmail may not have the security features that Protonmail has but Gmail does provide a more fuller suite of services that can be used across multiple platforms. For example Gmail has mobile apps, calendaring, etc while Protonmail has yet to mature to that level functionality.

Another limitation is that at the moment you need to wait for at least 3-4 weeks (if not longer) to get a Protonmail account.
You mis the whole point here. Protonmail isn't meant to be used as mainstream email application. If that was the case, it would offer a much better free service experience to compete with the rest.

Other than that, what do you mean with that you have to wait 3 to 4 weeks to get an account? You can sign up and start sending and receiving emails with protonmail within 3 minutes.

You need to see the bigger picture here. Protonmail is funded by a "donation" and "subscription" service and would always lack the funding to build capacity like Google. When they run out of resources, they rely on "donations" to increase their capacity to allow for more people to join their service.

They offer much more than Gmail or Yahoo Mail, because you have full encrypted and private email services with them. You have absolutely no privacy with other FREE email services, because they use your information for marketing and to supply information to their government. < As Edward Snowden has proven >

I think the Swiss has been turned by the USA, so services like this will come under constant attacks, like they have been with continuous DosS attacks recently. ^grrrrrrrr^ 
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March 22, 2017, 05:44:00 PM
#46
never heard about protonmail before, so i can't make any comment of this service, i only use yahoo and gmail service so far never get any problem or security attacks  it's safe enough for me if i forgot password only get sms code to recover it and if someone try to stole the accounts we will get notification so we can change the password immediately
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March 21, 2017, 10:05:14 AM
#45
For me gmail is the best mail site that I've used fir more than 3 years and I am not yet encountering any problem with their services. With regards to account hacking, they have the best security that I had observe for a long time, and talking about proton mail I have no idea about it and it's not a well known site here in my country where I am residing right now.
But do they require you to put in a code you receive to your phone via sms if you try logging in from a device not previously recognized by their system like gmail does all the time? Sad
They have optional 2 factor authentication.
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March 20, 2017, 08:33:54 AM
#44
For me gmail is the best mail site that I've used fir more than 3 years and I am not yet encountering any problem with their services. With regards to account hacking, they have the best security that I had observe for a long time, and talking about proton mail I have no idea about it and it's not a well known site here in my country where I am residing right now.
But do they require you to put in a code you receive to your phone via sms if you try logging in from a device not previously recognized by their system like gmail does all the time? Sad
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March 20, 2017, 08:29:30 AM
#43
For me gmail is the best mail site that I've used fir more than 3 years and I am not yet encountering any problem with their services. With regards to account hacking, they have the best security that I had observe for a long time, and talking about proton mail I have no idea about it and it's not a well known site here in my country where I am residing right now.
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March 19, 2017, 09:59:28 PM
#42
I haven't used proton mail but with my experience to gmail. I can say that I didn't receive any single marketing email. Probably they are doing it,depending to the mailing contents that you are sending to someone. That receiving of marketing emails is happening daily to my yahoo account that's why I migrated to gmail which I preferred to use.
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March 19, 2017, 09:05:05 PM
#41
ProtonMail uses OpenPGP internally. What this means is that mail between ProtonMail users is end-to-end encrypted and cannot be read by anyone else, including ProtonMail. In contrast, reading your mail is sort of the point of Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook, etc.—it helps them build advertising profiles of you so that you can be advertised to in more targeted (and lucrative, for them) ways.
From a security perspective, it means that a database breach at ProtonMail would not leak your mail content, whereas it would at almost any other provider. This is also true for mail from outside ProtonMail, as we encrypt incoming mail on your behalf and throw away the plaintext as it arrives. This means that your mailbox acts as sort of a document vault that only you can read.
Finally, ProtonMail also has some neat features that can be used when, for instance, you are asked to email something sensitive to a third party who doesn’t use ProtonMail. In that case, you can set a password on the email and the recipient will receive a link asking them to log in on our secure server to access and decrypt your message/attachments. I’ve used this several times when asked to send documents to banks, etc., and it is MUCH more secure than regular email for this purpose.
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March 19, 2017, 07:26:03 AM
#40
With hackers, I'm quite comfortable using gmail, which as far as I know hasn't had any serious security breaches in the past - as long as you have a random/long password you should be fine.  If you value your privacy though I would go with Proton Mail, because by no stretch of my brain can I trust Google not to view private information themselves.
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March 19, 2017, 06:18:05 AM
#39
Gmail may not have the security features that Protonmail has but Gmail does provide a more fuller suite of services that can be used across multiple platforms. For example Gmail has mobile apps, calendaring, etc while Protonmail has yet to mature to that level functionality.

Another limitation is that at the moment you need to wait for at least 3-4 weeks (if not longer) to get a Protonmail account.
You mis the whole point here. Protonmail isn't meant to be used as mainstream email application. If that was the case, it would offer a much better free service experience to compete with the rest.

Other than that, what do you mean with that you have to wait 3 to 4 weeks to get an account? You can sign up and start sending and receiving emails with protonmail within 3 minutes.
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March 19, 2017, 12:41:43 AM
#38
i think if free email provider site gmail still is the best
about proton mail service iam first hear, another gmail iam only use yahoo if free email
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March 18, 2017, 09:50:22 PM
#37
Gmail may not have the security features that Protonmail has but Gmail does provide a more fuller suite of services that can be used across multiple platforms. For example Gmail has mobile apps, calendaring, etc while Protonmail has yet to mature to that level functionality.

Another limitation is that at the moment you need to wait for at least 3-4 weeks (if not longer) to get a Protonmail account.
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March 18, 2017, 11:59:10 AM
#36
Protonmail! Since its encrypted Smiley
Only the storage is encrypted. If you're sending email to somebody else (like someone using Gmail), your message could be read in transit.
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March 18, 2017, 11:55:57 AM
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Protonmail! Since its encrypted Smiley
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March 17, 2017, 01:59:02 PM
#34
After taking a look at Proton Mail, I find it quite interesting to see. They seem like a really safe and secure organization that has established an excess amount of reputation. Evidently, not as much as Gmail but they seem to be invested in security (ex. SSL protection, encryption, etc.)

At first glance, Proton actually looks a lot safer to me than Gmail simply because of their encryption service that allows all emails to be locked up and unable for the servers to comprehend. This is great for security because, as we all know, Gmail has been selling our information for awhile now. That's how they target ads to you.

But Proton doesn't seem to have this problem. Apparently they will know nothing about you. Also, Proton seems to be great to protect you from hackers because of the encryption service. Of course someone can still hack into your account, so you need to make a secure password with either Gmail or Proton.

Honestly, if you're just emailing family and friends and don't have to send info like credit or something incriminating you can just use what you're comfortable with. Whether it be Proton or Gmail or even Yahoo. But if you're say, a doctor, and need to protect your info I'd recommend trying Proton. See how you like it. Perhaps this program will become the new service of the future - to protect our information.
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March 17, 2017, 11:19:39 AM
#33
@audaciousbeing

Protonmail is a free service, but there are certain limitations to how far you you can stretch everything. And no, there aren't any ads to annoy people.

If you think you'll need more functionalities, there are paid plans that you can choose from, where you can even activate single features instead of a whole plan. It can safe you a buck or two.

Other than that, protonmail's only objective is to offer privacy minded features and not to follow what gmail is doing. Protonmail isn't aiming to be something close to a regular email service.
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March 17, 2017, 10:56:52 AM
#32
I've been a long time user of Gmail and I've really loved using it for all this time, Google is one of those companies that is linked into to most things and can usually be used to sign into a majority of sites on the internet. Though, with recent revelations of the amount of data companies are really tracking about me and everyone else in the world which is sold down the line to marketers and so on I was looking for a better email service as they pretty much have my entire life on their.

I've seen many people saying ProtonMail is safe, secure and the way to go but I've never really used it and wouldn't really want to try without hearing input from some users, would love some people to let me know how it goes.

I believe even the Proton mail that is assumed to be free might not actually be free after all because how would they pay for what the services they are offering? The next is to let adversitement frustrate you because they have to get the money from somewhere. Even though currently they might be the best option but gradually when their popularity started getting high, I see them following the foot steps of gmail.
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March 17, 2017, 10:41:23 AM
#31
gmail is fine if you and your contacts use Thunderbird +openpgp/Enigmail to encrypt your communications.
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March 17, 2017, 10:37:50 AM
#30
  • ProtonMail is open source: https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient This means the webClient, the main software, all the cryptography libraries they use is open for everyone to see and check for themselves from day one.
  • They accept bitcoin. For their paid services and also as donation
  • Your Email is encrypted End-To-End meaning the server has no access to your content since it is being encrypted inside your browser.
  • It is based in Switzerland, meaning they respect your privacy more!
  • It supports Tor.
  • The design looks cool Smiley https://protonmail.com/images/slider/column-message.jpg
  • Also has iOS and Android support

It is worth mentioning that for highly sensitive information you should still take other precautions.

I've been using gmail for so many years now and I haven't heard about ProtonMail. I'm quite satisfied with what Gmail has as of the moment but I would like to consider trying ProtonMail because of the features that you lined above. Thanks for putting that up. It got me interested in it and I'll try to register there. One thing that I don't like with Gmail is that they always email me with those pesky advertisements that plague half of my screen. It just irritates me because it increases the chance of me not reading an important email. Hopefully, ProtonMail will provide me good service.
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March 17, 2017, 07:48:40 AM
#29
I use both. Based on the advertisements I get on gmail, I'm fairly sure that they go through your emails to target them towards you.

I trust the people behind Proton Mail much more than I trust Google, however the lack of SMTP/IMAP/... support is annoying for me as I dislike webmail and like to use tools such as git-send-email. The lack of text/plain emails on Proton Mail also annoys me :/

Luckily the support team are very responsive.
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March 17, 2017, 07:16:40 AM
#28
Guys, if you want a secure mail service just try protonmail and tutamail. After using that mail services you will never look backward. Just try and see difference.
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February 24, 2017, 01:57:01 AM
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Never heard of Proton mail will keep using gmail as its not broken yet,just as the saying  ”if it ain't broke, don't fix it”. Thanks for the heads up privacy really should be first priority! 
Just out of curiosity is proton mail the next big thing?

that's exactly the mindset to get hacked and lose all your crypto.

Fucking eh man, some people just don't really understand the good mindset of "better be safe then sorry" like would you rather make something more secure in order to make sure someone won't get access to it. Gmail isn't broken in the least and I love using it, but once reading about all of the data that google sells about you it's really disgusting to see all of that information.

They even sell the really important things about you, like lets just say you have some sort of mental disability and they know by the sites you visit for help / support you could easily be targeted for ads on therarpy without an issue and you probably wouldn't bat an eye and just think they're trying to help you.
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February 23, 2017, 12:09:50 PM
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The only thing I dislike about Protonmail is we can't use our own domain with free version and only 1 email. And I would like to see some features included like Zoho mail..
Tutanota is also a good one simailar, It encrypts the entire mailbox, does not log IP addresses, and the source code it open for anyone
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February 20, 2017, 06:44:31 AM
#25
Hi there,

We've used ProtonMail for over a year and it is really good. The service & support provided by them is really good, but it depends on what's your main objective. If your main objective is storing, sending and receiving sensitive documents or messages or keeping yourself/company "private", then this is right for you. Many organisations and companies scan and read your emails for various purposes, such as advertisement or general monitoring. Even large companies sometimes see your messages while they move around as they are unencrypted.

They have various plans, depending on your requirements (you can even use your custom domain) and free version gives you a @protonmail.com email. Someone has already sent you a link with more info about how emails can be encrypted to non ProtonMail users. It is very simple, they receive a link which they can open and type the password. The question is how to tell this password to the other person. You cannot use any general messaging systems, texts, emails, etc. as someone somewhere will have a record of this password. This password should be given out offline or by some secure means.

The main issue for business and professional users is the fact that Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc. have integrated their stuff into single corner of the internet. You need Google accounts, MS accounts, Yahoo accounts to access many services/websites/apps, etc. and you have to deal with this issue every time.

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February 20, 2017, 05:28:23 AM
#24
Ill never heard and i don't know anything  about proton I personally use Gmail . But since their are  many good feed back about proton I am now thinking if I will tried this one.
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February 19, 2017, 04:18:33 PM
#23
Never heard of Proton mail will keep using gmail as its not broken yet,just as the saying  ”if it ain't broke, don't fix it”. Thanks for the heads up privacy really should be first priority! 
Just out of curiosity is proton mail the next big thing?

that's exactly the mindset to get hacked and lose all your crypto.
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February 19, 2017, 02:24:45 PM
#22
Never heard of Proton mail will keep using gmail as its not broken yet,just as the saying  ”if it ain't broke, don't fix it”. Thanks for the heads up privacy really should be first priority! 
Just out of curiosity is proton mail the next big thing?
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February 19, 2017, 04:55:29 AM
#21
I don't believe that we have fully secure mail provider. Protonmail might be close but there are still some questions to be asked.

My main concern, how can we can tell that my message sent is being encrypted with the correct public key?
I mean Protonmail is the creator and distributor of the encryption keys, they can switch the keys and we will never know, right?

Technically it is possible, but you and the other party have to understand how to work with the javascript debugger within your browser. From there you could see whether or not everything is as protonmail tells you it is (i.e verify keys).

If you spot that protonmail has been messing with the keys, then it's obvious that your information has been accessible to protonmail. That's always a risk since you rely on protonmail to create and distribute everything in full honesty.
And I guess thats the reason why Proton mail is an open source to proved that they don't hide any backdoors or whatever. If you can understand the source codes of this application you can take a look here https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient
Checking the source doesn't mean protonmail as distributor of the keys can't just hand you over a slightly different key that allows them to seize your 'hidden' information, while you guys think everything is just fine.

That's why it's important that after every mail exchange between you and the other party you both manually verify the keys to see whether or not protonmail has been messing with things.
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February 19, 2017, 04:31:11 AM
#20
protonmail is based on the opensource. but in fact to develop a mail platform we need a variety of important elements, such as security. today gmail certainly has the most advanced security features compared to other mail platforms.

how do you even say that?
have you checked the security of google email service versus other email provides such as protonmail and came to that conclusion?

because in my experience when it comes to open source projects and security the more people that are working on the project and the more open the project is, it becomes easier to find out bugs and make it safer rather than a closed source thing that only a certain number of people no matter how experienced are working on it.
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February 19, 2017, 03:18:10 AM
#19
I don't believe that we have fully secure mail provider. Protonmail might be close but there are still some questions to be asked.

My main concern, how can we can tell that my message sent is being encrypted with the correct public key?
I mean Protonmail is the creator and distributor of the encryption keys, they can switch the keys and we will never know, right?

Technically it is possible, but you and the other party have to understand how to work with the javascript debugger within your browser. From there you could see whether or not everything is as protonmail tells you it is (i.e verify keys).

If you spot that protonmail has been messing with the keys, then it's obvious that your information has been accessible to protonmail. That's always a risk since you rely on protonmail to create and distribute everything in full honesty.
And I guess thats the reason why Proton mail is an open source to proved that they don't hide any backdoors or whatever. If you can understand the source codes of this application you can take a look here https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient
protonmail is based on the opensource. but in fact to develop a mail platform we need a variety of important elements, such as security. today gmail certainly has the most advanced security features compared to other mail platforms.
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February 18, 2017, 07:54:34 PM
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I don't believe that we have fully secure mail provider. Protonmail might be close but there are still some questions to be asked.

My main concern, how can we can tell that my message sent is being encrypted with the correct public key?
I mean Protonmail is the creator and distributor of the encryption keys, they can switch the keys and we will never know, right?

Technically it is possible, but you and the other party have to understand how to work with the javascript debugger within your browser. From there you could see whether or not everything is as protonmail tells you it is (i.e verify keys).

If you spot that protonmail has been messing with the keys, then it's obvious that your information has been accessible to protonmail. That's always a risk since you rely on protonmail to create and distribute everything in full honesty.
And I guess thats the reason why Proton mail is an open source to proved that they don't hide any backdoors or whatever. If you can understand the source codes of this application you can take a look here https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient
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February 18, 2017, 05:06:49 PM
#17
I've been a long time user of Gmail and I've really loved using it for all this time, Google is one of those companies that is linked into to most things and can usually be used to sign into a majority of sites on the internet. Though, with recent revelations of the amount of data companies are really tracking about me and everyone else in the world which is sold down the line to marketers and so on I was looking for a better email service as they pretty much have my entire life on their.

I've seen many people saying ProtonMail is safe, secure and the way to go but I've never really used it and wouldn't really want to try without hearing input from some users, would love some people to let me know how it goes.

I would also like to know how secure ProtonMail is. They have free and paid
version. What I don't like about those free mail (Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail) is
that they are like building your profiles and then you will be targeted
for advertisement from those because its very lucrative for them.

Probably one thing I want to know if someone else has uses ProtonMail
is that what if you send someone an email but the recipient does not
using ProtonMail, then how can the individual read the mail if it is
encrypted?




There are two ways of sending emails from Proton to gmail,yahoo etc,you can send standart email and it wll appear like ordinary email,or encrypt and give your receipments password to decrypt.I love Proton,it is really private and secure and thay have super strong antispam filters
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February 18, 2017, 04:56:55 PM
#16
I don't believe that we have fully secure mail provider. Protonmail might be close but there are still some questions to be asked.

My main concern, how can we can tell that my message sent is being encrypted with the correct public key?
I mean Protonmail is the creator and distributor of the encryption keys, they can switch the keys and we will never know, right?

Technically it is possible, but you and the other party have to understand how to work with the javascript debugger within your browser. From there you could see whether or not everything is as protonmail tells you it is (i.e verify keys).

If you spot that protonmail has been messing with the keys, then it's obvious that your information has been accessible to protonmail. That's always a risk since you rely on protonmail to create and distribute everything in full honesty.
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February 18, 2017, 12:23:46 PM
#15
I don't believe that we have fully secure mail provider. Protonmail might be close but there are still some questions to be asked.

My main concern, how can we can tell that my message sent is being encrypted with the correct public key?
I mean Protonmail is the creator and distributor of the encryption keys, they can switch the keys and we will never know, right?
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February 18, 2017, 09:55:29 AM
#14
Hmmm didnt heard about that Proton Mail since i do use Gmail since i jumped into internet world i also used yahoomail but gmail is the best for me.
I would try to use that Proton mail and this new thing email service would got my interest too. Thanks
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February 18, 2017, 08:15:08 AM
#13
never heard of proton mail until today, i've always used gmail, but i see they can accept bitcoin, this alone make me like it; ok i've registered after a quick look it appear that you can only have 20gb of storage and only 50 address added if you want all this for $24 per month, if you ask me this is a bit expensive and limited, but i like that you are encrypted, unlike google that store all the information
The most expensive plan will cost me €30 here, but it just depends on how you appreciate/value the level of your privacy.

If you're just a basic user, then it makes no sense to sign up and go with the most expensive plan. But if you rely on privacy no matter what, then the benefits will easily outweigh the costs.

You can also sign up free where you can choose to just add additional options such as an extra address, or extra storage. But that's not really a necessity since the free plan isn't all that bad.

You can just continue to use gmail for your non privacy minded things, and switch to protonmail in case you want to make sure whatever you do, everything is tightly encrypted.
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February 18, 2017, 06:31:53 AM
#12
Never heard this email provider service ever since and I only use google mail since I started to make emails. But as upon reading posts above it seems that proton mail has a good reputation among users here.
Maybe I'll try to use this one later and the ui looks nice also. Thanks for bringing up it here.
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February 18, 2017, 05:43:49 AM
#11
never heard of proton mail until today, i've always used gmail, but i see they can accept bitcoin, this alone make me like it; ok i've registered after a quick look it appear that you can only have 20gb of storage and only 50 address added if you want all this for $24 per month, if you ask me this is a bit expensive and limited, but i like that you are encrypted, unlike google that store all the information
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February 17, 2017, 12:27:10 PM
#10
Well, I've only ever used gmail and yahoo for my emails. I find Google Drive very useful but it does get annoying
seeing/receiving all sorts of advertisements and spam emails.

Anyway, seeing as Proton mail has good reviews from users here, I'm gonna try it out as well and see how it goes.
I take it they don't require phone numbers unlike with gmail? Thanks.

 
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February 17, 2017, 09:01:39 AM
#9
i will stay with gmail since i don't know proton mail and i am using gmail for long time ago until now. i think gmail is secure too because in gmail, we can add 2FA for our account and i did this already. beside that, i think gmail is make new innovation like other email provider and adding new feature to be attracted more people to use their email provider service. maybe later i will trying to register with proton mail and see if i can get their benefits too like other members.
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February 17, 2017, 08:07:29 AM
#8
Protonmail is very good with their security, and better looking design as well..
But, if you have half your life on the net and use google auth everywhere might as well go gmail as well?
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February 17, 2017, 08:06:15 AM
#7
I've a long time user of gmail and I am satisfied with their services, no problems encountered ever since I started using it. Talking about proton mail I don't get any familiarity about it, maybe others use it and their experiences were favorable then its okay for them and anyways we particularly have our own freedom of will to decide where are we comfortable with.
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February 17, 2017, 06:50:29 AM
#6
  • ProtonMail is open source: https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient This means the webClient, the main software, all the cryptography libraries they use is open for everyone to see and check for themselves from day one.
  • They accept bitcoin. For their paid services and also as donation
  • Your Email is encrypted End-To-End meaning the server has no access to your content since it is being encrypted inside your browser.
  • It is based in Switzerland, meaning they respect your privacy more!
  • It supports Tor.
  • The design looks cool Smiley https://protonmail.com/images/slider/column-message.jpg
  • Also has iOS and Android support

It is worth mentioning that for highly sensitive information you should still take other precautions.
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February 17, 2017, 06:24:34 AM
#5
it has been some time since i moved to protonmail and i am perfectly satisfied with it. it is an awesome free mail provider that you can donate or buy other options from to help it.
it is secure and their encryption techniques are pretty good. and if i recall correctly they are based in Switzerland which is a big perk as far as privacy is concerned.

the only problem with not using google is that you don't get their features for example google docs, google drive,... but you have to give them your phone number! and also accept that Google is in US and it means zero privacy.
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February 17, 2017, 05:00:50 AM
#4
I haven't used proton mail and with my experience on gmail. And when I wasn't able to login with my email, I called their support and talked for some verification for almost 15 minutes (it's quite long for me) though I can say that after verification they sent me a SMS regarding my concern and they gave me my new password. Though I'm receiving a lot of spam emails, I'm just ignoring them.
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February 17, 2017, 03:38:36 AM
#3
i've been using both and can say that gmail does not prioritise user privacy and security as much as proton mail does. proton mail's list of security measures is long https://protonmail.com/security-details. these guys have end to end encrypted inboxes meaning even the company can't read your emails, proton mail is also based in switzerland so none of that NSA coercion google has been trapped in affects proton mail. we all know google's business model, on the other hand, though, right? scan all your incoming messages and bombard you with ads. i read on there blog that they also recently launched a tor website so as to add another layer of privacy for users. hope that helps.
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February 17, 2017, 01:22:54 AM
#2
I've been a long time user of Gmail and I've really loved using it for all this time, Google is one of those companies that is linked into to most things and can usually be used to sign into a majority of sites on the internet. Though, with recent revelations of the amount of data companies are really tracking about me and everyone else in the world which is sold down the line to marketers and so on I was looking for a better email service as they pretty much have my entire life on their.

I've seen many people saying ProtonMail is safe, secure and the way to go but I've never really used it and wouldn't really want to try without hearing input from some users, would love some people to let me know how it goes.

I would also like to know how secure ProtonMail is. They have free and paid
version. What I don't like about those free mail (Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail) is
that they are like building your profiles and then you will be targeted
for advertisement from those because its very lucrative for them.

Probably one thing I want to know if someone else has uses ProtonMail
is that what if you send someone an email but the recipient does not
using ProtonMail, then how can the individual read the mail if it is
encrypted?


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February 17, 2017, 01:00:04 AM
#1
I've been a long time user of Gmail and I've really loved using it for all this time, Google is one of those companies that is linked into to most things and can usually be used to sign into a majority of sites on the internet. Though, with recent revelations of the amount of data companies are really tracking about me and everyone else in the world which is sold down the line to marketers and so on I was looking for a better email service as they pretty much have my entire life on their.

I've seen many people saying ProtonMail is safe, secure and the way to go but I've never really used it and wouldn't really want to try without hearing input from some users, would love some people to let me know how it goes.
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