Topic: Prypto Scam (Read 1715 times)

It’s unfortunate that there are scumbag humans out there such as Duncan and his partners.  He is obviously well aware of what’s going on and refuses to acknowledge it nor make things right. I am having lunch with a good friend today who is a criminal lawyer and we plan to discuss this case. I will also be spending time the coming weeks finding all of their current projects and alerting people as to whom they are truly dealing with.

Prypto also authored the Bitcoin for Dummies book - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56323884

I appreciate your effort to expose and alert others of these pieces of human filth. Shoot me a DM and we can chat further about this if you’d like.

so true one of many scams doing the rounds
Even wrote to Mr Duncan Cameron  However no response as expected.
He has deleted his linkedin profile and as per the info I could find
this is his profile

Duncan Cameron's email
Co-Founder @ Asg Blockchain
https://asg.im/
https://www.facebook.com/ASGBlockchain (last updated 11 march 21)
https://twitter.com/ASGBlockchain
Is it  another scam in the making? Time would tell
 Duncan Cameron's Email

Found 3 emails domains

    @cryptogamingservices.com @pokerstars.com @casinocoin.org
This is what is profile lists
Location    London, London, United Kingdom
Work    Director Technical @ Casinocoin
Co-Founder @ Crypto Gaming Services
Project Consultant
Skills    Online Gaming, Gaming Industry, Online Gambling, Gaming, E-commerce, Project Management, Poker, Mobile Applications, Web Applications, Affiliate Marketing, Marketing, Casino, E-payments, Loyalty Programs, Mobile Games, Live Events, Conversion Optimization, Bingo, Project Fixer, Process Specialist, Casinocoin, Bitcoin Mining, Bitcoin, Blockchain Technology, Affiliate Management

In case anyone bumps into him this how the guy looks like
https://i.ibb.co/Mn1YTV6/duncan.jpg

I would be happy to be proved wrong by a simple step of honouring the encashment of the cards that I hold
Thanks https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/whywefight-289686

I guess you were the only element of truth that helped people in getting their cards worth.
The sad part is that the cards issued never mentioned any expiry date on them

I have tried contacting Duncan and no response from him

This is my experience so far
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57049599

I’d recommend reading this thread. Bottom line this was a scam and no cards have any value left on them. Whatever wasn’t redeemed (by a certain date which was not stated on the cards itself, which of course was part of the scam) was kept (stolen) by the makers.

I have 2 doge coin cards that are unused. You anyone help me in redemption?

Sir I need help with 2 Doge coin scratch cards please help

I did what I promised, I can just apologize for the huge delay.

1. I am not a lawyer so I won't comment on anything related to legal implication because I simply can't.
2. Resellers were aware of the Terms and Conditions. I was a reseller, I was aware, my website stated this -> https://web.archive.org/web/20150718062716/http://getprypto.com/faqs-page/
3. Cards were an easy way to give away small amounts of crypto, that was the idea behind it. If people in 2019 think this was "smart" or not is up to your own opinion.
4. The trade with hybridsole was based on a ping on IRC, I can no longer access the history, I have only one PM related to this from March 20, 2016, 09:09:48 PM, means that trade details were negotiated off forums. I am happy to have a trusted member to review my PM's.
5. As I said already: Yes, I did not handle the payouts to MJ and hybridsole in a timely fashion, this is on me. I did put this on my to-do but I forgot about it 3 times. That's not an excuse, I just want to get this clear.
6. I did not initiate the payouts based on the neg rep, which I didn't notice at first. I received a message from MJ via TG on October 26th at 16:47 (GMT+1). This made me realize that I still didn't do what I promised to him and hybridsole. Once I was back home I initiated the payouts my morning time of the 27th.
7. I didn't notice hybridsole's PM's in between as I didn't visit the forum, this is on me.
8. I can not comment on how many cards have been issued or used as I was a reseller.
9. The accusation that I "co-conspired with Duncan" or I am Duncan has no base. And is easy to verify.
10. My neg rep states "Part of Casinocoin pump and dump group, and refuses to honor Prypto scratch off cards". First, please provide proper evidence of the project I work for in public for 2 years is a pump and dump. Second, I did honor (as promised) the face values of the card and I will continue to do so for EVERY CARD I PERSONALLY SOLD. I don't have an issue with the neg rep but I would appreciate it if it would be at least correct, based on facts and with a reference. Otherwise, this is just beating the bush.

If you purchased cards from anyone, you should first contact the seller. If you purchased cards from me, contact me, I will honor the face value. For any other complaint, inquiry or other things please contact Duncan.

I am happy to have my PM's reviewed by a trusted member if I ever made misleading claims.

Based on Yogg's scrape, there were over 30,000 scratch cards that were listed as "Not been Used (Activated)" and about 10,000 were listed as "Used Activated" (meaning they had been redeemed).
It is unclear whether they actually collected funds to load all 30,000 of these "Activated" cards, but right now that's the upper limit for number of cards that were a scam.

 I have not calculated the total amount of money on these cards yet but that's something I can do.

Sounds like this was an exit scam, planned 5 years in advance, with the distributors on the hook.  It's quasi-legal due to the shitty EU protections for consumers, including some shitty protections for USA consumers (outside or Jurisdictions like my own).  Everyone associated with this project should be investigated, IMO.  

For what it's worth: this varies per country. In The Netherlands for instance a gift certificate has a minimum validity of 1 year if there's a start and end date on it. If there's only a start date, the validity is (at least) 5 years, and if there's no date at all, it's valid indefinitely (source in Dutch). The catch is: It's allowed to refer to general conditions on a website for validity.
A judge can rule to end validity of this last category, as recently happened to old stamps (another source in Dutch).

This is the last post I will make on the Prypto matter.

1. Prypto used a fractional reserve redeem code scheme to sell loaded cards, denominated in bitcoin and other cryptos.
2. Most distributors were unaware of the weaknesses of this plan.  Some were probably more intimately familiar with it than others.  The plan works like this: Pay out people slower over time, since none of the cardholders can see funds on a blockchain.  Use rest as slush fund to pump and dump your shitcoin.
3. The entire premise of having non-private key loaded cryptos is seen today as fraudulent, but the industry was not smart in 2013-2015 to see these scams ahead of time.  
4. There was never an expiration date for redemption communicated to anyone who bought the cards. The presumption was that the face value was loaded (unless otherwise specified) indefinitely
5. On August 1, 2019 - my first attempt at a refund was made.  I spent a few hours locating the cards, redeeming the codes, and generating new deposit addresses for the DOGE, LTC, and BTC.  
6. August 17 - All security codes and refund addresses were provided to WhyWeFight.  He strung me along with promises of payment.  The red flag occurred prior to this when offered a refund in CSC (and also learning CSC being linked to many people who started Prypto - whether this is true I don't really care).
7. October 7 - After my request for refund again. WhyWeFight "Hey, fuck my bad. I almost forgot. I will deal with it THIS week."
8. October 26 - I leave my Neg feedback on WhyWeFight.  I am paid out within 24 hours.  
9. According to some reports, more than 1,200 loaded Prypto cards were issued in the wild, and most of those holders are not paying attention to this forum nonsense.  Maybe they aren't DT1.  Or maybe even worse, they are planning to rely on those loaded cards for food or shelter one day.  
10. I will update feedback to reflect that Me, myself, and I was refunded, but the neg remains.  This is part of scammy behavior that needs to stop in this industry.  

Edit - I realize that WhyWeFight may be doing the right thing here, and the neg is not warranted to him if he is not behind Prypto. That may be true. If he is merely honoring an agreement between us I will revisit it, but I still believe a Neg is warranted to whoever came up with this scheme.   In my jurisdiction: A gift certificate or credit memo sold or issued for consideration in this state may not have an expiration date, or expiration, period.  (Thanks Sat0shisGhost)


Edit 2 - Seeing as how I am protected by free speech, my advice is that you and/or Duncan should be looking into defense attorneys, as well as plan on making all Prypto owners whole. Everything you have written on this thread indicates you are either Duncan, co-conspired with Duncan, or are monumentally stupid.

A threat? If saying that I will fight this until things are made right is a threat, than sure. All I am asking is for Prypto owners to MAKE THINGS RIGHT.  I am not concerned with my expired cards what so ever, but for everyone else who has them, and those whom have them but have no idea they're expired. There is some easy/fair solutions to this all. But you're not the person responsible here as far as I know. I'm simply pointing out what should be utterly obvious. I guess I'm asking to please pass this on to those whom are in charge, like Duncan.  I'm not looking for anything other than for things to be made right for everyone now and in the future.  

Also for proof ...yes, thankfully I know people much smarter than I whom gathered that proof. Make it right, all I ask. If this is an honest company, shouldnt be hard or a problem to do.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/financial-services-and-commerce/gift-cards-and-certificates-statutes-and-legis.aspx 

Because I am dealing with that issue. Again, CasinoCoin has nothing to do with this.

The terms of sales have been clear and have been available to people. Cards were valid for 5 years. This wasn't a secret. Prypto did not sell cards directly, resellers did. I don't see you going after reseller with big words.


Any proof for this or do you assume that?


Let me get this straight, is this a threat?

If a reseller sold you the card, you should first contact the reseller, because they knew exactly what the were selling. The cards were NOT designed as long term storage.

I paid hybridsole, because I traded the cards with him.

I’m curios why you’re paying these out and not Duncan Cameron or John Caldwell ?  They are aware of this thread right, so why not a word from them? I mean we know they are aware of this thread as Duncan removed any mention of Prypto from his LinkedIn page shortly after it was created. Only one reason someone does that. I appreciate you coming forward, giving refunds, etc...but this is FAR from settled for the rest of Prypto / ASG Blockchain and casino coin. They have many unpaid coins in their possession and I cant possibly fathom how they could view this as acceptable. Prypto.co makes mention of a 5 year expiration but Prypto.com and cryptoscractchcards.com nor the cards themselves make ANY mention of an expiration. I would advise Duncan message me if he wants to settle this peacefully (and do the right /moral/legal thing).

Sorry but  I didn't have the coins and it took me a long time to get em.

I said I will pay, and I paid. I would appreciate if you could watch your words, cause so do I.

My other work is in no way related to Prypto, stop calling it PnD, thanks. I am taking over a 3rd parties liability. I paid out MJ's BTC and hybridsole a few hours ago. I am currently getting outstanding Doge and LTC. Even we are talking small amounts I had to get the coins, which took me quite a while I have to admit that. I offered CSC payout cause that the only crypto I had on hand.

I never refused to pay anyone out nor did I ghost anyone. I am available on Discord, Slack, Skype, TG, Email, my mobile and Keybase 24/7 AND I said that at least twice.

I paid today after MJ pinged me yesterday and asked hybridsole for a different way of communication yesterday via PM (2nd time) as I am simply not using BTCT atm.

BTC payouts can be confirmed by both. Doge and LTC will happen as soon as I got the coins.

Other then that, there have been no additional contacts from ppl.


EDIT: LTC and DOGE have sent as well. As I said, I admit it took longer than it should. However, as I said all the time, I was willing to resolve the issue and I never ghosted anyone.

I was ghosted after being promised a refund from WhyWeFight. Very disappointed. Prypto is nothing more than part of a Casinocoin scammer pump and dump group. Offering my refund in Casinocoin should have been the final red flag.   They stole the funds and are trying to figure out the next steps...

Still waiting... we've been quite patient with this but that patience is starting to run out Prypto ...

Bump - any word here 

Just to keep everyone posted, working on it. Takes more time than expected. I'll give a heads up when stuff is up and running.

EDIT: Got the BTC data, looking at the rest now.

EDIT2: Got everything. Looking into the PMs i got.

Np, you are all welcome. It is not a secret I am working for CasinoCoin and with Duncan. I am getting all the information, and we will figure this out. If we all could stay relaxed till I have everything together that would be appreciated. Not running away, just need some time and don't want this to escalate in the usual bitcointalk style, please.

Thank you for being such an open and honest person/reseller.  Hopefully Prypto will follow suit.

I am working on a solution. If you own any cards, please send me a PM.

Thanks a lot for your input !

Please, if you remember some details, can you enlighten us with the loading procedure ?
As a reseller, did you need to "activate" them ?
Do you have a txid linked to a prypto card in some way ?

This can be extremely helpful.


If you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to dare.
We are trying to figure out the total amounts that have "expired" (under Prypto terms)

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I kept the script running but this is the highest security code that I found and that has a state which is different from "Not activated, not used".
All security numbers above this one gave this output.

I did resell those cards back in the days. I need to figure out how many cards that I sold were not redeemed and contacted the people that operated it. Once I hear back, I will let you know.

PS: Before people run on a spree and "dox" me with my old address, please talk to me first if you bought any cards from me. Cause I can already smell fire and hear the pitchforks. I moved since I sold the cards.

The very first item of the FAQ on my site back then was:


I am not very active here atm but can be reached via TG or Discord.

https://casinocoin.org/boardmember/duncan-cameron/

Here's ya man
Even though he has removed Prypto from his linkedIn.

CSC was the project he launched after Prypto

Viz

On my end I only see resellers as numbers, so no idea who they are

Really awesome work here by everyone, so glad you Mr Robots stepped in to do what I could not.

Has anyone reached out to them yet ? Is there a way of knowing who the resellers are? Thx everyone !

That may have been possible yeah, but it's so long ago that I'm really not sure..

I believe it was something about theft that justified such a system since most resellers would sell/hand out at events and such.

The seller had to activate the card, the buyer could never do it (I guess unless you bought directly).

I believe but am not 100% certain that seller could redeem the balance if it was never activated as to surpass the step of scratching each card and creating a tx that way.

I'm not aware of any such step being communicated to customers.
It could have been something that the reseller had to do when they sold a card, and that wasn't done with my cards and some others, for whatever reason.
But, to the best of my knowledge, there was no public method of "activating" a prypto scratch card after you received it.
The FAQ section at GetPrypto (one of those resellers) doesn't mention anything like that either.

These are guesses, but in my opinion, there was a mandatory step once you got the physical card : you had to "Activate" it.
This is when they become available to be redeemed.

About the "Not used, not active" state, you can input any random number (such as 65341651651651651) and it will always state "Not used, not active".
So we could speculate that either the cards were non-existent, or not activated (which doesn't change much regarding the scam, except we won't be able to quantify the amounts linked to those)

So .. There would be 4 different cases :
- Activated and redeemed loaded Prypto card (Used, active)
- Activated and not redeemed loaded Prypto card (Not used, active) SKAM !!
- Non-active and not redeemed loaded Prypto card (Not used, not active) SKAM !!
- Non-existent security code // Prypto card (Not used, not active)

If there is no record of release, this is going to be very complicated to separate the not activated loaded and the non-existent Prypto cards.

As sure as I can be.
I bought the cards understanding they were "loaded"/I would be able to redeem them.
I didn't plan to and was aware of the 5 year expiry deadline, but I assumed they would be valid until then.



Or their database is faulty.

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Checked them against the tracker and added the status here for easy reference.
The 10002937 one is the most interesting one to me, as it shows the same status as mine.

Are you sure those are the right security codes? I get that they're not activated when I search it.



The ones with similar (neighboring) security numbers are activated, just not the specific numbers you gave.

I suppose it could mean Yogg and I misunderstood the meaning of "Not active".

I'll happily eat my previous words. I didn't consider polling their website for information about the total run and about redeemed/non-redeemed cards.
Guess I figured they let all of them expire, the tool would just show that. But since their information tool still gives seemingly accurate data about this,
an estimate could become very accurate, giving you can collect as many security code/denomination pairs as possible.

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Let me help you with mine, they aren't many, but they are a start:

The cards starting at 1000 are 0.005BTC. 10001010 and 10001011 are mine of that denomination.
Higher numbers (might be more likely altcoins) are most likely those with custom designs on the backside.
My doge cards are 10010746 (25k) and 10017913 (1000).

I started with Yogg's scraped database and am currently trying to match denominations of known cards to security codes:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cIGR9TVSUDKEZ2xeftAVmt4_MW8S6-KdWDTFshcUCwQ/edit?usp=sharing

Archived for those who don't want to use google: https://archive.fo/fkvxI

For example, we know cards 10000001-10000050 are 1k DOGE through postings here.

I got a few known security codes/denominations from users on the forums and slack and have input those.
It seems like the cards in given continuous ranges of known-activated cards are all the same denominations. So for example I think the cards with security codes from 10051301-10066880 are almost continuous and the cards people have reported are all 0.001 BTC cards, so it seems fair to assume that all of those cards are 0.001 BTC.

Known cards are highlighted in a brighter color, cards with uncertain denominations are a more pale color.

I'm already up to about 10 BTC in unredeemed cards which is higher than I'd expected, and I have only looked through a fraction of these.

If people share the security codes and denominations of their cards with me, here, via PM, or Slack, I'll include them in the spreadsheet and we can get an idea of how much BTC these guys are trying to steal.

So, I ran a script to get some data. (Thanks sat0shisgh0st for the idea !)
Here are the logs : http://archive.fo/GwztI

For a sample of 134641 prypto security codes (allegedly a different one per card) :
30,646 Prypto cards that are Not Used and Activated. (22,77%)
9,789 cards were Used. (7,27%)
And 94,206 are Not Used and Not Activated. (69,96%)
If you try to input a completely random security number, it will not tell you that the card doesn't exist, it will tell you that it isn't activated and not used.
So there might as well be "non-existant" cards in the last numbers.

I scrapped some data off the http://cryptoscratchcards.com/ website.
Started with Security Code 10000000 and went up. (As they started with 50 prototypes of 1k DOGE, one was auctioned with number 10000007.

The highest security code that has been used and that I found is : 10103984
So it means there are ranges of activated/used prypto cards.

So basically, the 94,206 not used and not activated cards may be non existent.
Luckily we know there were at least 30,646 activated ("funded") and not used !
I will keep the script running, see if we find anything more in the higher numbers.

Thank you everyone for sharing your opinion. There is no question in my mind that this is and was a scam. I’ve not had the time today to continue this “investigation”, but I wanted to present what info I did have which I believe was enough to show upon a reasonable doubt that this is a scam that has been mostly covered up and swept under the rug by the former owners. Names of the owners can already be seen in my last post. This is all public info, so don’t be afraid of “doxing” them if you’re interested in helping out here.

When I find some time soon I will be reaching out to former owners for comments as well as posting in other proper boards as well as creating a flag (which I’m not really versed on yet).

I greatly appreciate the efforts of everyone who’s chimed in here and then some. This stuff is time consuming so I of course encourage anyone who wants to help out to do so. Regardless I will like many others before, continue to work on bringing all info to light. It’s sickening how many of these I’ve worked on at this point, but important to never become complacent and let this filth get away scott free. 

Added Prypto cards to the Scam thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/info-breached-or-scam-coin-makers-list-3315347

It's easy to get the number of unredeemed cards.

What I haven't figured is a way to get the amounts yet but my hope is it would be possible with on-chain data. (It might be possible to examine a few payment transactions or a few cash-out transactions and see if there's any common wallet or other discernible pattern.)

That's nearly impossible to gauge.

While the cards are numbered sequentially, you could get an estimated total run by asking people for their security codes
and then assuming the highest answer you get is roughly the amount of cards produced.

However, that list would include not only different denominations (ranging from 0.005 BTC all the way up to 0.1 BTC),
but also different currencies, there's been Doge ones, LTC ones, CSC ones, and all those weird shitcoins you and I have never even heard about.

Then you'd have to find a way to estimate how many cards have been redeemed, and how many cards "expired".
There isn't any list of public keys you could parse through, like there is for some other physicals. Getting an idea of how many are redeemed and how many are not will be nearly impossible.

So to sum up: Unclear how many cards in total, of which denomination each, and if redeemed. I doubt you'd come up with any useful number.

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They filed for closure a while ago, according to the company register.

As this is going to bring up real names sooner or later, I'd suggest a thread in investigations.
Else we're stuck beating around the bush not being able to fully share all information available with everyone interested and concerned about this.

Anybody have an estimate as to how much they scammed for?

Or a link to the wallet they processed withdrawals from on walletexplorer.com?

Couldn't agree more.... Scam in my opinion!!  Even filthy banks put 90 days or 180 days on a check that needs to be cashed.  This is gross and should be added.

I think the terms and conditions should have been advertised better.

  Ok.....SO do should these guys be placed on the scam list thread?? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/info-breached-or-scam-coin-makers-list-3315347

  If the card was to expire after a certain amount of years, then they should have MARKED IT CLEARLY on the card itself.
  
   What are the communities thoughts on this. I am thankful I never purchased a loaded card, but still EVERYONE should be made aware their loaded cards are not loaded at all.

   A big thanks for ChibiCTY and other for the effort into looking into this further
 

I may know a guy 

  Agree whole heartedly with Ty...They should've printed this on card with an expiration date.

  I checked all my cards, and thankfully all of the ones I have I bought redeemed.

I have continued to dig in to this, and now know who the main owner(s) are. This company also sold ownership shares, like a business going public does (https://www.google.com/amp/s/cointelegraph.com/news/prypto_lets_you_walk_into_a_store_for_your_cryptocurrency/amp).

The head owners currently run an online cryptocurrency  “CasinoCoin” are active here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/casinocoin-181084)  and other social platforms such a twitter




There have been scam accusations already from members here


(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616792.4080#msg27345018)

Who knows how many people they have left high and dry..



The company going ghost that just left active shares in limbo and nothing on the website stating what’s going on just doesn’t add up to anything legitimate. No closing of business listed anywhere on the website as can be seen here :






I will continue looking further in to this (I have more reading to do) will be reaching out to the owners to get their take and ask why they are not honoring their promise to keep their redeeming site open until all cards are redeemed. I will be placing a scam accusation as well as flag accounts and continue to add info about that and anything else pertinent.

Until proven otherwise, this looks to be one big fat SCAM.

From what I can tell, they were not meant to be used as long-term storage.
They were meant to be used to either purchase cryptocurrency quickly & easily, or mainly to give away cryptocurrencies in a quick & effortless fashion.
Some altcoins used them for promotional giveaways, thus you'll see Prypto Cards of the weirdest shitcoins out there (like Worldcoin, Uro, Vertcoin, Max).

The concept of it would be for example like the following: A vendor/service/promoter buys 1000 of those cards, then hands them out at a physical event to interested users,
and those can at home go through the process of setting up a wallet for the specific coin and then get the coins sent to their securely created addresses through the website and codes on the cards.

There are similar services today working off the same idea. CryptoVoucher (not an endorsement!) is a service that offers voucher codes for sale which then can be redeemed for a certain value of cryptocurrencies. They're somewhat popular on keyseller sites like MMOGA, eneba or G2Play.
Similar to the Crypto Scratch Cards, they rely on a code and a website interface.

Checking google for similar services, I've also found Bit4coin (once again, no endorsement) which apparently operate under the same general business principle.
The practice of a code+webinterface combination seems to stick around, despite Prypto's CSCs being discontinued as of right now.

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Prypto also did products that were meant as long term storage, but those aren't the Scratch Cards, they are "Crypto Wallet Cards" and come in sets of two, one card you can break into half that contains two copies of your public key + QR code, and one card with the private key under a scratch-protection.
Those came unloaded and don't have any expiry date tied to them, since they have the actual private key on them.
However, here your second point comes to fruition, and you have to trust Prypto with generating and destroying the private keys, so you should probably think twice before loading any of those Wallet Cards.

It's the first time I've heard about "Prypto scratch cards", so I have to ask: who thought it's a good idea to rely on a third party website to access long-term Bitcoin storage?
Trusting a stranger to create a private key is bad enough, but at least that ensures you can access the funds without external help. A website to redeem funds is a terrible idea!

So someone got very rich out of this! Waiting 5 years for Bitcoin to go up, then taking the funds.

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I like it! I've opened a topic about it: [IDEA] Physical Bitcoin Scratch Cards.

What a load of horse shit. If this is all completely accurate they are not only an inept bunch of morons but also scammers.  If this is not stated on the cards themselves or anywhere on the website, how in the hell is this a legit business practice?  They deserve some sort of punishment for this, not that there's any chance of that ever happening 

Thx Lutpin

From what I remember, Prypto Scratch Card have a limited validity time.
They are valid for 5 years (I've checked that earlier), which means any cards bought in 2014 are either expired, or close to expiry.

I've contacted someone I know who has been in touch with the people behind Prypto, I'll let you know.

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Edit 1: I've just got a response from wwf, they said based on the information they have,
all cards have reached their expiry date and redemption is not available due to that.

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Edit 2: This got me curious and I checked for where the 5 year expiry date was mentioned.
The reseller you got your cards from should have informed you about those conditions.
I got mine from getprypto, which is discontinued and offline as of now, but WBM still has some snapshots of their site.

How much are on the cards?

I always thought it would be cool if we could get gambling scratch cards like the US loto has. I would only want to be gambling 0.1 mbtc but a physical card to scratch would be cool

Correction, not wttb its Why We Fight that is your point of contact.
Sorry for the confusion.

Viz

I just tried redeeming a scratch card using 3 different web browsers. Each one error'd out. It doesn't work.  I imagine there's a lot of people holding these having no idea they aren't redeemable.  Also, is there any way we'd even know if they had stolen all the funds by now?  

Yet another crypto scam (even if funds weren't stolen)  

Edit: You do however see this page when selecting the "validate" tool. Not that it's saying much..

There's a user on here, I think it might be wttb (?)  that knows the people at the back end.
They moved on to some Casino coin iirc
Viz

Yikes. Any physical crypto that relies on a website to redeem should be a non-starter today.  Luckily most of the market knows better now, as opposed to when these were being marketed and sold (back in 2015?).  I have a few Prypto cards but pretty sure unloaded. Need to double check now I guess.

Sorry to hear that MJ. I have some of these cards redeemed and possibly loaded as well IIRC. That's not good at all even though its a minute amount.

I have to say I don't like it when we depend on a website to redeem anything.

I prefer cards like Bitbills and Coldkey that have the private key in the hologram, no need to go thru the website.

I really hope this can get worked out, if not..this is a scam in my book. They are responsible for keeping that website and redeeming tool functional until the very last card is redeemed!

Prypto Cards... scamtastic!!!