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legendary
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The Real Jude Austin
He didn't delete anything, which is surprising.

I am going through now and deleting all of the persons posts and PM'ing people he contacted to let them know that I got the account back.

Again, thank you to everyone who supported me!


Lastly from what I know, you weren't the one Wardrick traded with, so it'd be right thing to contact him regarding this and ask him to remove the rating.

I will send Wardrick a PM right now and get this taken care of.

Thank you,
Jude
hero member
Activity: 924
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4 Mana 7/7
He didn't delete anything, which is surprising.

I am going through now and deleting all of the persons posts and PM'ing people he contacted to let them know that I got the account back.

Again, thank you to everyone who supported me!


Lastly from what I know, you weren't the one Wardrick traded with, so it'd be right thing to contact him regarding this and ask him to remove the rating.
legendary
Activity: 1140
Merit: 1000
The Real Jude Austin
He didn't delete anything, which is surprising.

I am going through now and deleting all of the persons posts and PM'ing people he contacted to let them know that I got the account back.

Again, thank you to everyone who supported me!

hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
4 Mana 7/7
Sorry for your loss, but while account trades are tolerated here, they are strongly discouraged, in part because we do not enforce/broker account sales. In most cases, the original owner of the account is the legitimate owner forever as far as forum administration is concerned. (Though if we happen to come across some pretty clear evidence that an account is sold by its owner, we're not going to intentionally help the original owner scam the account back. But neither are we going to put much effort into preventing this.)

I restored Jude Austin to its original owner. I don't see any evidence for or against the original owner scamming the buyer out of 0.6 BTC. It's possible, but on the other hand the password hashes are known to have been leaked, so if Jude Austin's password was weak, it is possible for it to have been cracked.
Good to see an admin intervening, as the blackmailing about deleting all the posts was getting quite off-the-top.
copper member
Activity: 1498
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No I dont escrow anymore.
Sorry for your loss, but while account trades are tolerated here, they are strongly discouraged, in part because we do not enforce/broker account sales. In most cases, the original owner of the account is the legitimate owner forever as far as forum administration is concerned. (Though if we happen to come across some pretty clear evidence that an account is sold by its owner, we're not going to intentionally help the original owner scam the account back. But neither are we going to put much effort into preventing this.)

I restored Jude Austin to its original owner. I don't see any evidence for or against the original owner scamming the buyer out of 0.6 BTC. It's possible, but on the other hand the password hashes are known to have been leaked, so if Jude Austin's password was weak, it is possible for it to have been cracked.

Didnt expect that! Well, rating removed.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Sorry for your loss, but while account trades are tolerated here, they are strongly discouraged, in part because we do not enforce/broker account sales. In most cases, the original owner of the account is the legitimate owner forever as far as forum administration is concerned. (Though if we happen to come across some pretty clear evidence that an account is sold by its owner, we're not going to intentionally help the original owner scam the account back. But neither are we going to put much effort into preventing this.)

I restored Jude Austin to its original owner. I don't see any evidence for or against the original owner scamming the buyer out of 0.6 BTC. It's possible, but on the other hand the password hashes are known to have been leaked, so if Jude Austin's password was weak, it is possible for it to have been cracked.

Theymos,

Thank you very much, sir!

I will return the favor to the BTCTalk forum in the form of a donation.

Take care!

Jude
administrator
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Sorry for your loss, but while account trades are tolerated here, they are strongly discouraged, in part because we do not enforce/broker account sales. In most cases, the original owner of the account is the legitimate owner forever as far as forum administration is concerned. (Though if we happen to come across some pretty clear evidence that an account is sold by its owner, we're not going to intentionally help the original owner scam the account back. But neither are we going to put much effort into preventing this.)

I restored Jude Austin to its original owner. I don't see any evidence for or against the original owner scamming the buyer out of 0.6 BTC. It's possible, but on the other hand the password hashes are known to have been leaked, so if Jude Austin's password was weak, it is possible for it to have been cracked.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
its getting common on forum
someone took loan from a user and after sometime a new user started saying it was his account that got hacked
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-advice-hacked-account-or-someone-is-trying-to-trick-me-1354724

IMO people using those tricks to sell account first without signed message and then later using signed message they claim that account was hacked.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1317
Get your game girl
So this Jude Austin is not the same Jude Austin I compiled code for?

Anyway, I suggest you two read this[1] thread before you continue. Just for a perspective.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=982538.0;all

Check your PM.
I would be grateful if you'd also send me PM's of your Github links and that personal website which you own. Wink
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
So this Jude Austin is not the same Jude Austin I compiled code for?

Anyway, I suggest you two read this[1] thread before you continue. Just for a perspective.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=982538.0;all

Check your PM.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1317
Get your game girl
So this Jude Austin is not the same Jude Austin I compiled code for?

Nope! I'm still waiting for him to link me to his Github/blogs/mining websites etc.Or he could just agree he had bought the Real Jude Austin with the private keys I guess.
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
So this Jude Austin is not the same Jude Austin I compiled code for? got a pm, it is.

Anyway, I suggest you two read this[1] thread before you continue. Just for a perspective.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=982538.0;all
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
So wait a reply from theymos but how shorena said :


....
#1 Jude is the original owner.
#2 the new owner paid 0.6 BTC for the account.
#3 Jude can not proof that they did not sell the account themselves.

I will suggest what I suggest last time, meet in the middle, share the loss, as -again- you both are to blame.

The new owner did not properly check that they indeed dealt with the original owner.
The original owner did not properly secure the account.



The image doesn't prove anything, I think theymos accept only signed message from an old well know bitcoin address that you (or the real owner) used in the past.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
The user Jude Austin is a stolen account!
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1PoXwtXNP5xTbQEvYiARNBjRAEQa55UTPN
HOsS9IJY6x8JmkWndMM2iDMwsikKG0FDpFpVcLUT2TqW2rq6tOE4K/QmbFxTq3BE/lbjCz4MOkEWo1EngcyWTAk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Jude Austin is a stolen account!
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1dP6ckGUJXWMM3ib277gNyvUd9gkgzqfC
HFeNwJtZqjWkdI/mhOa/kL9m8gO31j130AqGhZSQHLzhzMt2u49L5IbQFbQzE/T2U+KsB/l1kI/UqfbLLMsNz0c=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
.

I can't see any date in these msg.


legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1317
Get your game girl

Ok, so the person who has my account will want BTC.

How do I send him BTC and know that I will get my account back?

I will essentially be getting fucked TWICE.

How can we ensure I will get my account back if I pay this guy?

1.Agree ,you have bought Jude Austin as well.
2.Jude Austin was a miner/Programmer and he has a website which he owns,could you link me to that ?
3.Jude was very professional ad fluent with English.You don't even look 10% of him.Also can you link me to your github? Jude?
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
This is ridiculous.

I am just going to wait it out for Theymos.

The signed messages with the referenced addresses, posts, date, new email address have been sent to Theymos.

Soon fellow associates will load the trust with negative feedback and he won't use the account.

And I will just sit back and wait to get what was is rightfully mine back.

You my friend, have a cocky attitude.
It's not rightfully yours. Sure, you can prove it.
But again, this question stands.
How do we know you aren't the one who was behind the bogus account sale to get your self a free $200?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
This is ridiculous.

I am just going to wait it out for Theymos.

The signed messages with the referenced addresses, posts, date, new email address have been sent to Theymos.

Soon fellow associates will load the trust with negative feedback and he won't use the account.

And I will just sit back and wait to get what was is rightfully mine back.
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
Ok, so the person who has my account will want BTC.

How do I send him BTC and know that I will get my account back?

I will essentially be getting fucked TWICE.

How can we ensure I will get my account back if I pay this guy?

Use a trusted 3rd party as escrow.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Ok, so the person who has my account will want BTC.

How do I send him BTC and know that I will get my account back?

I will essentially be getting fucked TWICE.

How can we ensure I will get my account back if I pay this guy?

You say you make 1.2 BTC + with one day's work, I'm sure you won't mind giving 0.6 BTC or at least 0.3 for your own 'mistakes'.
If you decide on escrow, you won't get fucked 'twice'.
If one isn't enough, you can decide on using 2-3 Multisig.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Ok, so the person who has my account will want BTC.

How do I send him BTC and know that I will get my account back?

I will essentially be getting fucked TWICE.

How can we ensure I will get my account back if I pay this guy?
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
-snip-
The image doesn't prove anything, I think theymos accept only signed message from an old well know bitcoin address that you (or the real owner) used in the past.

No it doesnt, there is no message and no date, but there are enough signed message in the other thread. Theymos will not get involved though, they dont get involved in deals. The two have to find a solution.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
4 Mana 7/7
The image doesn't prove anything, I think theymos accept only signed message from an old well know bitcoin address that you (or the real owner) used in the past.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
The user Jude Austin is a stolen account!
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1PoXwtXNP5xTbQEvYiARNBjRAEQa55UTPN
HOsS9IJY6x8JmkWndMM2iDMwsikKG0FDpFpVcLUT2TqW2rq6tOE4K/QmbFxTq3BE/lbjCz4MOkEWo1EngcyWTAk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Jude Austin is a stolen account!
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1dP6ckGUJXWMM3ib277gNyvUd9gkgzqfC
HFeNwJtZqjWkdI/mhOa/kL9m8gO31j130AqGhZSQHLzhzMt2u49L5IbQFbQzE/T2U+KsB/l1kI/UqfbLLMsNz0c=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
OP, what BTCTalk account were you using before?


That(and who he bought it from) seems to be one detail OP is ignoring in each of his post. When someone keeps side-stepping a question like this, I start disbelieving their story.

Even LtcFaucet has bought this account (you know,the post history speaks a lot) ,so probably the account has been sold multiple times.But If Jude Austin can post the details of account auctions/pm/skype it will be much helpful.

What are you talking about?

I didn't buy Jude Austin, I was the original creator, I AM Jude Austin, in real life, haha.

Wow, I feel like I am going in circles.
Wow,then you should be a miner/programmer/well English Speaker.Could you link me to your GitHub?

Are you trolling me?

What makes you think that I purchased Jude Austin before?

I sure hope you aren't a forensic scientist or any kind of investigator because there are several ways to cross reference this account and Jude Austin to see that it is me.

But I will leave this here since nobody seems to believe I am who I say I am:

http://i.imgur.com/4klCBKn.jpg


The image doesn't prove anything, I think theymos accept only signed message from an old well know bitcoin address that you (or the real owner) used in the past.

Already sent Theymos a PM with two signed addresses from previous posts.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
OP, what BTCTalk account were you using before?


That(and who he bought it from) seems to be one detail OP is ignoring in each of his post. When someone keeps side-stepping a question like this, I start disbelieving their story.

Even LtcFaucet has bought this account (you know,the post history speaks a lot) ,so probably the account has been sold multiple times.But If Jude Austin can post the details of account auctions/pm/skype it will be much helpful.

What are you talking about?

I didn't buy Jude Austin, I was the original creator, I AM Jude Austin, in real life, haha.

Wow, I feel like I am going in circles.
Wow,then you should be a miner/programmer/well English Speaker.Could you link me to your GitHub?

Are you trolling me?

What makes you think that I purchased Jude Austin before?

I sure hope you aren't a forensic scientist or any kind of investigator because there are several ways to cross reference this account and Jude Austin to see that it is me.

But I will leave this here since nobody seems to believe I am who I say I am:

http://i.imgur.com/4klCBKn.jpg


The image doesn't prove anything, I think theymos accept only signed message from an old well know bitcoin address that you (or the real owner) used in the past.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
I DO NOT AND WILL NOT AGREE TO THE ACCOUNT BEING CLOSED.

I just want my account back, holy crap, it's as simple as you changing the password, deleting any private messages you had, and sending me the password.

Why does this have to be so hard? Why can't you just be a decent human being and give it back?

Why do I have to pay you back for money you spent on someone else's account, didn't you have a hunch something was wrong when they sold you this account for only .6 BTC?



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it's as simple
I don't see you giving away 0.6 BTC

Quote
Why does this have to be so hard
It's like he's giving you $200 + USD on a silver platter.
How do we know you aren't the one who was behind the bullshit account sale?

Don't tell me you'd 'be a decent human being' if you were in his position.

@joel_jansten
The 'seller' said the private key was being sold, never sent it.
Why? We don't know.
How do we know that ltcfaucet didn't just not give to come back a week later and claim it as his own?
Staked address is stupid in that sense

You're right, I wouldn't purchase a Bitcointalk account, period.

But if I did happen to purchase something and someone with out a doubt showed me proof it was theirs, I would give it back.

I have plenty of money, I am 27 years old with a high paying job at a very reputable corporation.

Please check this thread before making any assumptions: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-btctalk-account-jude-austin-has-been-stolen-from-me-do-not-trust-them-1355698

I wouldn't jump through all of these hoops for .6 BTC, trust me!

I make twice as much in an 8 hour work day.


so then refund me the 0.6BTC...
I am 0.6BTC out of loss and I PROVED IT with the skype logs in the other thread.
If not, I am deleting all content on this account simple as that.

i don't think it is fair that I am at a loss for your own mistakes/scams

Either way, you will be at a loss.

If they close the account, you lose out ~$200.

If you give me my account back, you still lose ~$200.

But there is a perk for the latter, you are doing the right thing, and you are making someone very happy.

And depending on whether this person gets any sleep any time soon, now 4:18AM here, he may be in a good mood and make up for your loss.

But as of now I completely swear you are a scammer.

Another reason I think you didn't pay for the account, you wouldn't be so willing to just erase it off the forum.....
legendary
Activity: 1778
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#Free market
OP, what BTCTalk account were you using before?


That(and who he bought it from) seems to be one detail OP is ignoring in each of his post. When someone keeps side-stepping a question like this, I start disbelieving their story.

Even LtcFaucet has bought this account (you know,the post history speaks a lot) ,so probably the account has been sold multiple times.But If Jude Austin can post the details of account auctions/pm/skype it will be much helpful.

What are you talking about?

I didn't buy Jude Austin, I was the original creator, I AM Jude Austin, in real life, haha.

Wow, I feel like I am going in circles.
Wow,then you should be a miner/programmer/well English Speaker.Could you link me to your GitHub?

I think this is his github account : https://github.com/EBTCoin
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1317
Get your game girl
OP, what BTCTalk account were you using before?


That(and who he bought it from) seems to be one detail OP is ignoring in each of his post. When someone keeps side-stepping a question like this, I start disbelieving their story.

Even LtcFaucet has bought this account (you know,the post history speaks a lot) ,so probably the account has been sold multiple times.But If Jude Austin can post the details of account auctions/pm/skype it will be much helpful.

What are you talking about?

I didn't buy Jude Austin, I was the original creator, I AM Jude Austin, in real life, haha.

Wow, I feel like I am going in circles.
Wow,then you should be a miner/programmer/well English Speaker.Could you link me to your GitHub?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
OP, what BTCTalk account were you using before?


That(and who he bought it from) seems to be one detail OP is ignoring in each of his post. When someone keeps side-stepping a question like this, I start disbelieving their story.

Even LtcFaucet has bought this account (you know,the post history speaks a lot) ,so probably the account has been sold multiple times.But If Jude Austin can post the details of account auctions/pm/skype it will be much helpful.

What are you talking about?

I didn't buy Jude Austin, I was the original creator, I AM Jude Austin, in real life, haha.

Wow, I feel like I am going in circles.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1317
Get your game girl
OP, what BTCTalk account were you using before?


That(and who he bought it from) seems to be one detail OP is ignoring in each of his post. When someone keeps side-stepping a question like this, I start disbelieving their story.

Even LtcFaucet has bought this account (you know,the post history speaks a lot) ,so probably the account has been sold multiple times.But If Jude Austin can post the details of account auctions/pm/skype it will be much helpful.
hero member
Activity: 924
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4 Mana 7/7
OP, what BTCTalk account were you using before?


That(and who he bought it from) seems to be one detail OP is ignoring in each of his post. When someone keeps side-stepping a question like this, I start disbelieving their story.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
How would I have gotten in touch with the person on Skype to sell him my account then?

Can the person claiming to be me prove that he had reach out to someone or that someone reached out to him?

I would have had no way to contact this guy......

I fired up this old ass account because I figured it was the only way to help get my Jude Austin account back..

I want to know how the OP got contacted or where he saw Jude Austin for sale, because I never sold it.

OP, what BTCTalk account were you using before?

legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1317
Get your game girl
The 'seller' said the private key was being sold, never sent it.
When you pay 0.60 btc's ,what should you be receiving or demanding first ?I think any sensible person would use an escrow to verify the details and not send the money without a having access to the staked address.

Why? We don't know.
Because he wanted to scam,as easy as that.

How do we know that ltcfaucet didn't just not give to come back a week later and claim it as his own?
Staked address is stupid in that sense.
He probably is.If Op can prove it then obviously he will continue with the ownership rights of that account.
full member
Activity: 126
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I DO NOT AND WILL NOT AGREE TO THE ACCOUNT BEING CLOSED.

I just want my account back, holy crap, it's as simple as you changing the password, deleting any private messages you had, and sending me the password.

Why does this have to be so hard? Why can't you just be a decent human being and give it back?

Why do I have to pay you back for money you spent on someone else's account, didn't you have a hunch something was wrong when they sold you this account for only .6 BTC?



Quote
it's as simple
I don't see you giving away 0.6 BTC

Quote
Why does this have to be so hard
It's like he's giving you $200 + USD on a silver platter.
How do we know you aren't the one who was behind the bullshit account sale?

Don't tell me you'd 'be a decent human being' if you were in his position.

@joel_jansten
The 'seller' said the private key was being sold, never sent it.
Why? We don't know.
How do we know that ltcfaucet didn't just not give to come back a week later and claim it as his own?
Staked address is stupid in that sense

You're right, I wouldn't purchase a Bitcointalk account, period.

But if I did happen to purchase something and someone with out a doubt showed me proof it was theirs, I would give it back.

I have plenty of money, I am 27 years old with a high paying job at a very reputable corporation.

Please check this thread before making any assumptions: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-btctalk-account-jude-austin-has-been-stolen-from-me-do-not-trust-them-1355698

I wouldn't jump through all of these hoops for .6 BTC, trust me!

I make twice as much in an 8 hour work day.

member
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It's all right here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-btctalk-account-jude-austin-has-been-stolen-from-me-do-not-trust-them-1355698

Signed messages, drivers license, cross referenced posts between this account and Jude Austin.

My God, this is just unreal, I really don't want my account deleted.

I just wish someone would restore my faith in humanity and do the right thing.

I don't think it will happen but I have been wrong before.

I believe you were an old owner of the account, sure.
But what I find hard to believe is that you aren't the one behind the bogus account sale.
Account gets sold, private key was said to be sold but isn't.
Suddenly just two weeks later, the original owner comes back & was earlier saying something along the lines of 'I don't care if it gets deleted' or something, but now says he wants it back.
Don't use the shitty faith in humanity response, we aren't stupid.
full member
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It's all right here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-btctalk-account-jude-austin-has-been-stolen-from-me-do-not-trust-them-1355698

Signed messages, drivers license, cross referenced posts between this account and Jude Austin.

My God, this is just unreal, I really don't want my account deleted.

I just wish someone would restore my faith in humanity and do the right thing.

I don't think it will happen but I have been wrong before.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
I DO NOT AND WILL NOT AGREE TO THE ACCOUNT BEING CLOSED.

I just want my account back, holy crap, it's as simple as you changing the password, deleting any private messages you had, and sending me the password.

Why does this have to be so hard? Why can't you just be a decent human being and give it back?

Why do I have to pay you back for money you spent on someone else's account, didn't you have a hunch something was wrong when they sold you this account for only .6 BTC?



Quote
it's as simple
I don't see you giving away 0.6 BTC

Quote
Why does this have to be so hard
It's like he's giving you $200 + USD on a silver platter.
How do we know you aren't the one who was behind the bullshit account sale?

Don't tell me you'd 'be a decent human being' if you were in his position.

@joel_jansten
The 'seller' said the private key was being sold, never sent it.
Why? We don't know.
How do we know that ltcfaucet didn't just not give to come back a week later and claim it as his own?
Staked address is stupid in that sense.
legendary
Activity: 1988
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Get your game girl
In my opinion I think everyone is wrong.
There is only one Legitimate God in the Forum "VOD"
The same thing (sort of) happened with SwingDev & altcoin4life.
Nope Altcoin4life was dealing with a hacked account when he was warned not to.His greediness landed him in trouble.
Owner goes inactive, account asks for a loan, doesn't pay back, 'real' owner comes back asking for account, altcoin loses 0.1.
Obviously,because there is something called as "Staked Address" and a smart lender would always asked for signed a message before lending 0.10.

You buy account, get scammed, suddenly owner comes out of nowhere and wants account deleted/back, you get the negative trust.
Interesting logic.
Definitely, owner has all the rights to claim his account back if he is able to provide a signed message .If you're buying a legendary account without the private keys of the staked address or escrow ,you're likely to get scammed,moreover it would stupid of you to do so.
full member
Activity: 126
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I DO NOT AND WILL NOT AGREE TO THE ACCOUNT BEING CLOSED.

I just want my account back, holy crap, it's as simple as you changing the password, deleting any private messages you had, and sending me the password.

Why does this have to be so hard? Why can't you just be a decent human being and give it back?

Why do I have to pay you back for money you spent on someone else's account, didn't you have a hunch something was wrong when they sold you this account for only .6 BTC?

member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
In my opinion I think everyone is wrong.
The same thing (sort of) happened with SwingDev & altcoin4life.
Owner goes inactive, account asks for a loan, doesn't pay back, 'real' owner comes back asking for account, altcoin loses 0.1.
You buy account, get scammed, suddenly owner comes out of nowhere and wants account deleted/back, you get the negative trust.
Interesting logic.
legendary
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The Real Jude Austin
reserved for "Ltcfaucet" comment.
legendary
Activity: 1140
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The Real Jude Austin
I got my account back!

1PoXwtXNP5xTbQEvYiARNBjRAEQa55UTPN

G+wO712/qnS2eCXcyMAB0fGdO8Xy8pyP32qpspUBDe1Jml7czDjVXjSD23A5tL6cP5eIXOvzeAelklprfA5uc6c=
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