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Quote from: LoyceV on August 24, 2022, 06:17:04 AM

I don't mind a "normal" locked topic on the Reputation board (for instance when the case is closed), but this feature has also been abused by people to create a thread on someone, bump it, and don't allow them (or anyone else) to respond.
Locked topics are frequently used on the marketplace boards, where scammers advertise in locked topics to avoid warning posts while they lure victims to their Telegram account.
And for that reason, I wouldn't mind if all locked topics drop off the first page instantly. But similar suggestions have been made already, and it hasn't been implemented.

You got the real point, seems that you are in my thoughts. Really skipped my memory while composing the post. It happens mostly in services board, why this point is so crucial, I rather based my suggestions on aesthetics. Thanks for the input. If nothing is done about it, who knows we could expect it in the new forum software when it's launched.

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I don't see any issues regarding thread being locked by the OP, but if you think that's the case then expect multiple users to create new threads there or bumping old threads. I don't see many active threads on reputation boards, even today. So if you don't see much problem with it then you will see a different look after a lot of new threads are created or old threads are bump.

Right now only 8/40 threads are locked in there, didn't see much of a problem via PC but the phone display might not look good to you. I don't expect many new features to be added in this forum, so I'll just enjoy all the quirks.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on August 23, 2022, 07:18:47 PM

When you go to some boards like reputation board, at the first page you will see many locked threads.

I don't think there is a problem with threads being locked on the board. it doesn't look too bothersome to me either.
after all, the locked thread will sink in time. there will always be a new thread that will drown it.

for reputation boards, and maybe the scene will be a little different. but locked threads are also mostly resolved cases. better locked than left open and let the discussion widen.

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There could well be locked threads that have meaningful content that might not deserve be pushed down but that is the way the forum system operates. Other than being pinned at the top by an administrator the thread will inevitable drop.

I think it will be almost impossible on finding consensus on how to make meaningful locked threads more readily available for perusal because what might be meaningful to one member could be anything but to another.

Quote from: uchegod-21 on August 23, 2022, 07:18:47 PM

However, I am not suggesting that all locked threads should be pushed down, but some obvious ones that might not be revisited anymore should.

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 24, 2022, 06:17:04 AM

Locked topics are frequently used on the marketplace boards, where scammers advertise in locked topics to avoid warning posts while they lure victims to their Telegram account.

This was what came to my mind as I read the topic title, before even clicking in to view the thread.
A sort of opposite option to the bump which is used in some announcement boards, to push scam threads (and some obvious trolls maybe) off the first page.

Such scam posts cannot be reported to moderators or no action would be taken, so a community solution seems like a great option.

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I don't mind a "normal" locked topic on the Reputation board (for instance when the case is closed), but this feature has also been abused by people to create a thread on someone, bump it, and don't allow them (or anyone else) to respond.
Locked topics are frequently used on the marketplace boards, where scammers advertise in locked topics to avoid warning posts while they lure victims to their Telegram account.
And for that reason, I wouldn't mind if all locked topics drop off the first page instantly. But similar suggestions have been made already, and it hasn't been implemented.

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I think you can get a nicer interface if you use user script as it enables you to hide locked topics easily, but I don't think that much will happen in the programming of the forum.

The best option for locked topics is to move them to the archival, but this depends on the topic and the author, so downloading it to the bottom will not be a good option for many.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on August 23, 2022, 07:52:34 PM

When you lock thread or moderators do, who decides it???
Who locks thread? If someone can locate a thread to lock, is it to push down he cannot do?

Both. You can lock the thread yourself (you can try with this thread if you want and then unlock, see the option at the bottom left) and it can be locked by moderators.

Once in a while, when reporting a thread, I have put "I think it should be locked or trashed" and the moderators have locked it, I understand because they believe there is value in posts in the thread.

I'm not convinced by what you say, and I think it's fine the way it is. If a thread is locked and is not re-unlocked, it will disappear from the page and will not bother. But there are others that the OP lock for some reason to unlock later, and it seems reasonable to me.

Look at this one by theymos, for example:

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on August 23, 2022, 07:33:07 PM

Does it affect your love for it? If it did, I don't think you would be around

It wasn't you're point but I do like the forum design for its simplicity...

Some sites are a bit like a first presentation after you've discovered transitions in powerpoint in school, it looks cool to you but it's not going to work everywhere and is going to look like every other website.

I'd support the suppression of locked topics - unless they're made by a mod sich as for topic moves - but I'm not on boards where I often see them so my view might be a bit irrelevant (also the text for them in some places is smaller so they're harder to accidentally click).

Also it might be easy for a user script /plugin to be made for doing this.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on August 23, 2022, 07:33:07 PM

If we are talking about aesthetics, then the paddock Icons of locked thread should be some of the last things we should complain about. I mean, just look at the current forum layout in this modern day and age Cheesy

Does it affect your love for it? If it did, I don't think you would be around

The current forum layout is obviously not what one can say is beautiful, but I don't want to join the queue of complainants Grin

. I have read many suggestions for new forum software, I have seen a board created for new forum suggestions and I have seen a thread about Beta forum bla bla. So, I had to repect myself Grin

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on August 23, 2022, 07:33:07 PM

The locked threads will sink down with time.

Before creating this topic, I waited for them to sink down, but as they are sinking, more are getting locked.

Quote from: Z-tight on August 23, 2022, 07:45:48 PM

Who would decide the threads that people may not want to visit anymore, or that are relevant to stay in the first page or not, and who will be able to 'press the button' that will take a topic away from the first page to the second or down below;

When you lock thread or moderators do, who decides it???
Who locks thread? If someone can locate a thread to lock, is it to push down he cannot do?

Quote from: Z-tight on August 23, 2022, 07:45:48 PM

The padlock icon in locked threads is very small and it is not in our faces at all

I already said in OP that some people might not see it as a problem, perhaps it isn't a problem because it's not stopping anyone from ranking up Grin

Quote from: Z-tight on August 23, 2022, 07:45:48 PM

When a thread is locked it ends the discussion, but your suggestion will keep threads open and spammers may still spam in it and bring it back to the first page even when the discussion is complete.

Can you point out in OP where I said the thread should be unlocked before pushing it down?

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Who would decide the threads that people may not want to visit anymore, or that are relevant to stay in the first page or not, and who will be able to 'press the button' that will take a topic away from the first page to the second or down below; i can see this creating more problems and complaint than solutions to no problem, because this is a non-issue in the first place.

The padlock icon in locked threads is very small and it is not in our faces at all, i feel more members should use it frequently when discussion is complete. When a thread is locked it ends the discussion, but your suggestion will keep threads open and spammers may still spam in it and bring it back to the first page even when the discussion is complete. But needless to say that when a thread is locked, spammers can't bring it back to the top again, and it must eventually crawl down.

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If we are talking about aesthetics, then the paddock Icons of locked thread should be some of the last things we should complain about. I mean, just look at the current forum layout in this modern day and age Cheesy

Does it affect your love for it? If it did, I don't think you would be around

The locked threads will sink down with time.

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When you go to some boards like reputation board, at the first page you will see many locked threads. They don't appear pleasant to my observation. It messes up the decency or aesthetics of the such boards. Many people might not see it as a problem and it might not be a problem. Then forgive me because there are people who would always want something to be 100% nice even if it doesn't matter to others. There are obviously threads that aren't relevant to be in the first page. I am suggesting that as there is a means to bump a thread, there should also be a button to push a thread down to second page or bottom. Locking a thread and waiting for other active ones to override it might take time to happen, or might not happen because more threads would be locked.

A thread like this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-thread-for-ararbermas-case-and-3-other-accounts-5409141 should not occupy any space in the first page anymore because it's solved.
However, I am not suggesting that all locked threads should be pushed down, but some obvious ones that might not be revisited anymore should.

I think a first page like this;

Is more decent than this;

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