Topic: Pussy Riot (Read 1397 times)

 Apparently after being sprung from a Russian hoosgow, our maternal protesters, jetted  away for international appearances and to hang with those titans of democracy, Yoko Ono and Madonna, without dropping in  to see their beloved children.  I smell a cash out and they have met two of the best cash cows. I dislike the dishonesty of  cheap performance art, which on the surface is appears to advance Russian ( and other) human rights but reeks of self indulgent self-service. They are a poor imitation of the great Russian protestors, Alexandr Solzenitsn. If this is the best of the Russian protestors- it is sad.

I was talking about this thread, yes. Pussy Riot. And I read your opinion, and I did post mine, that for me this is just crazy.
Just look at the title of this article "Pussy Riot members perform new song after detention by Sochi police"

Thank you.

Yes - you are right - its just the whole idea of the self moderated thread that I can't quite get my head around. I couldn't really care one way or the other about Pussy Riot.

I'll leave it alone now - I've had too much time on my hands today I guess  


edit: oh - were you talking about Pussy Riot roslinpl ??

Omg this is too crazy

don't you think that all of this is not needed?

Roll up Roll up !!

Pussy Riot have sung a song  

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/18/pussy-riot-members-protest-song-detention-sochi

I've got to thank the Irishman for this - God bless your celtic heart Sir  

Here's a good way for you to do these forums a favor: catch the next plane to Russia and go lick Putin's boots.

A good proportion of TheIrishmans posts/threads are propogandist and self moderated - it seems to me that this constitutes spam and in my opinion they should be removed. They don't do a forum like this any favours IMHO.

Pussy Riot free

Feel free to move to Russia anytime.

Wait, now I get it, just saw your thread. You needed a self-moderated topic for this crap??

Your propaganda didn't work, heh...?

Good riddance.

He's not my friend, he didn't call me, and I just got here.

In fact, I'm leaving...

In Russia everything is, well... Russian.

Gay Russian Neo-Nazis Are Fighting And Fisting For Gay Rights…Or Something

http://www.vice.com/read/meet-russias-gay-aryan-skinheads-finally-bringing-homosexuality-to-the-neo-nazi-world

To avoid mediocre human garbage such as yourself and the friend you called to support your thread from posting FUD.

I guess there's some homophobia in Russia, yes, but this is also a propaganda campaign. It's not only Anglo-American, we have to assume responsability for our governments.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-dangerous-game-or-why-is-the-west-criticizing-the-sochi-games-bashing-vladimir-putin/5369338

A Dangerous Game, or Why is the West Criticizing the Sochi Games, Bashing Vladimir Putin?
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It started with the campaign by same-sex activists to boycott the Olympics.  That was launched by the comedian Stephen Fry, “as a Jew and a homosexual,” in a reference to the Holocaust.  But his joke fell flat because shortly before that incident Fry had caused an outcry in the Jewish world when he stated on television that Jews had stored up more misery for mankind than any other group of people.  The topic of gay rights continues to rankle – the Americans sent a delegation to Sochi consisting entirely of supporters of same-sex relationships, hoping to “troll” Putin – but nothing has ignited, despite their efforts.  The only demonstration on this issue in Sochi was staged by some American guests who were upset about the legalization of same-sex marriage in many US states.

Then came the horror stories about “Sochi – the city of double toilets.” Despite the fact that the photos and legends were debunked as fast as they appeared – they had their effect.  An Austrian journalist photographed a bad road in Vienna and tweeted it with the hashtag SochiFails.  CNN acquired the photo and it was retweeted 477 times.  Then the journalist admitted he had pulled a fast one – but that confession was only retweeted four times, which proves that this was truly an organized campaign to discredit both Sochi and the Games.

The opening ceremony saw some surprising and deliberate incidents: although spectators in the stadium and television viewers in Russia could see the president of Ukraine,Viktor Yanukovych (see image right), in his sky box, standing with a flag as the Ukrainian athletes entered the stadium, viewers overseas saw only an empty spot.  American television viewers did not see some of the section of the presentation that depicted the Soviet period, which was most likely cut because it did not include the gulags.

And finally, in conclusion there appeared a series of detailed articles.  The “bloody slander” by Dominic Sandbrook is an excellent example.  This was a fatwa, a call for murder and war from the lips of a respected British professor from Oxford and Cambridge.  Here’s another example: “The Stench of Sochi,” in which Putin is described as a bloody dictator and the games as an act of collusion. [1]

One could debate each point of the charges listed and either agree with them or take offense.  I’ve spent the greater part of the last three years in Russia.  It’s not the most comfortable place in the world.  The weather is oppressive.  We have ice and snow on a level unimaginable to Scandinavians or Canadians.  Beelzebub himself designed Moscow’s traffic.  I assure you it’s a country where the bureaucracy exhausts new arrivals and which begets a profusion of unnecessary hardships, all of which have helped to forge the indomitable Russian spirit.  You’ll get no argument from me! But only someone who has lost all touch with reality could brand the lenient rule of the liberal-conservative Putin as the “murderous and corrupt regime” of a gangster, when he has never executed anyone, holds an electoral mandate, and has yet to break up a single legal demonstration.

The vulgar anti-Sochi propaganda campaign is hardly reaching the international audience.

This widespread campaign leaves one no choice but to believe without a shadow of a doubt that what we have here is a deliberately fabricated, orchestrated, and organized campaign to target Russia and its president.  Why is this? If athletic competitions in Israel were being written about in this manner we would conclude that the instigators of the campaign were vile anti-Semites.  We could use the formula of President George W. Bush, who suggested “they hate our freedoms” as a motive for 9/11.  But there’s an even better explanation.

The unified Western propaganda machine is able to demonize its potential victims much better than the antediluvian mechanism used by Goebbels – if for no other reason than because it penetrates every corner of the globe.  It is centered in London and New York, and its branches operate in France, Germany, and even Russia.  It is fully integrated into the social networks.  If you (justifiably) do not trust the mainstream media and turn to the Internet – there you will find the same message, copied and retweeted by thousands of obedient robots.

This machine moves in when its owners want something from their victim.  For example, Muammar Gaddafi was the best friend of Paris, London, and Washington.  But he took exception once, and that was when Goldman Sachs lost 98% of Libya’s investments.  He paid dearly for his complaints.  He was utterly demonized and then NATO bombed Libya and destroyed that flourishing country.  Fifty billion dollars went missing – Libya’s sovereign wealth funds that had been invested in Western banks.

This is why the campaign against Sochi is so troubling.  What do the owners of the international mainstream media want from Russia and Putin? For him to marry President Obama? For him to abandon the Stabilization Fund in favor of Goldman Sachs? For him to sell oil and gas to Western companies in exchange for US Treasury bonds? Or – in regard to more compelling matters – for him to hand over Ukraine to neo-Nazis and Syria to Al-Qaeda? In any event, this has nothing to do with sports.  This is a different, and far more dangerous game.
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http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/18/pussy-riot-members-protest-song-detention-sochi


Great media event.

What are they actually about though ?

Jesus - they look a bit tame next to the Sex Pistols on the Thames Jubilee boat trip in 1977  

I doubt it will be popular on this particular Anglo American section of the forum but I actually quite like Putin - I like the way he has taken back control of his country's natural assets (out of the hands of villains free marketeers )  

Though I too am not a fan of homophobia I don't think its the sole preserve of modern Russia to be fair - no matter how much our media ram Putins supposed position down our necks. Anyone remember Clause 28 ? http://politics.theguardian.com/homeaffairs/page/0,11026,875944,00.html

The words kettle pot and black spring to mind - though not necessarily in that order    



[Reposted in this (new) thread as my original post was deleted from TheIrishMans self moderated thread - what is the point of self moderated threads btw ?]