Topic: Putin can not stay (Read 113 times)

So you want Stalin back, right?     

Putin is here and he is holding the power. Germans stood by hitler because they felt they believed that allied powers did injustice to them.
 Russians believe the same, they will stand by putin as they believe west and USA are reasons for the injustices in their own lives and this will make him more stronger. Until Russians don't  accept that the days of USSR will never come back accept a diminished role in modern Europe. They will remain glued to the glory of past and Russia will remain at confrontation with Europe

Can you kindly edit what you ha e written and give us a detail of what you mean be Putin can not stay. If you are telling us that Putin regime is going to be over soon, then that's fine. But you need to know that Putin is also working to stay in office forever. You can go and read other articles and publications about is agenda. If Putin is not going to stay long again in office, do you think he will allow is adversary parties to take over power from him?

True Putin will be Russian President till 2036 because the law he signed will always be in his favor,  democratically if America does not want him to win in the next election, they can influence the people of Russia not to vote for him but that may lead to another war. Who will the American government present to stand and defeat Putin who is regarded as the most powerful Russian politician since he took over power in 2000 from Boris Yeltsin, IMO only death can bring Putin down easily.

i am against putin. but looking at the wide picture of who is presented as 'heros' in history

100 years ago. the west invaded the middle east. stealing land and killing the ottomans.
yet america/UK were setting themselves up in media as the hero's. rewriting history

much like america(via the british/spanish/french) validated itself as a 'great land of the free' while killing native indians and enslaving africans.
(understanding a situation does not imply that you support it)
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even now. the middle east are angry with the west. (for good reason). so when the west again invaded the middle east in the 90's-2010.. the middle east were fanatically and savagely trying to defend their country/land. from armies that were born thousands of miles outside of the land.

yet again media present the west as the hero's
(im against the actions of middle easts involvement of 9-11, but you can atleast understand why they done it,.. if you look at the history books at the US invasion of the middle east pre 9-11(understanding a situation does not imply that you support it))

america/UK had no need to ever be in the middle east in the last 100 years. it was not their land.. if the US/UK never went to the middle east. there would be less hate between both sides
(understanding a situation does not imply that you support it)
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UK/spain had no need to be in africa/america 200-300 years ago, it was not their land/people
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putin is not a hero for invading eastern ukraine. its not his land.
but if the US/UK can be seen as hero's for the middle east. and if america can be seen as 'land of the free' with all its native killing and enslavement.. well.. the word 'hero' becomes meaningless..

Russia runs a democratic system of government where leaders are voted into power. Just last year the Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law that allows him to stay in power till 2036. So democratically Putin would run for presidential elections two times more in his lifetime and it is glaring that with the current political setup in Russia he would win both elections. If you think America can remove Putin, then you must have a rethink. Even when Joe Biden insinuated such, White House downplayed this comment. America might try to influence Russian elections but I doubt if this path would be fruitful. Then if you think Putin would be removed because of the war in Ukraine, that can only happen if Russia loose the war which is very unlikely.

I'm not sure I'm getting what you are trying to say but I don't think they'd be installing Zelinsky or anyone similar in Moscow any time soon. They've tried for decades to remove Putin, several US presidents later he still control Russia.

The response by NATO to the invasion was lukewarm at best, what makes you think they are invading Russia proper, which has only become harder after the land Russia managed to take?

You are contradicting yourself, bud. Putin cannot stay in power but I think he has managed to hold power for 22 years now. If you can achieve the feat of trying to install a Zelensky kind of ruler in Russia, well you have my best wishes.
 I think it's only the US who can hasten his descent from power but no body's lifting a finger.

A hero to those who like it when hospitals and schools get bombed. A hero to those who like the rape, torture, murder and enforced disappearances of civilians.

But the atrocities under Putin in Ukraine are nothing new. He was in charge of similar activities in Syria, and indeed everywhere he's been during his entire time in power. For just one amongst innumerable examples, we could go back over twenty years to Russian forces, under Putin's command, performing summary execution of civilians in Grozny.

It's one thing to rant about 5g masts and nanobots and contrails, quite another to worship the worst war criminal the world has seen in decades.


Sixty feared dead in bombing of Ukraine school

Everybody knows that all people die sooner or later. At least Putin will go out as a hero when he goes.

Thanks for posting in this forum, paxmao. At least we will know where to go to remember you a little.

US does not want Putin to go. You do not want chaos on a country the size of Russia with a bag full of nukes. If not he would be dead already.

It seems highly illogical to conclude that the outcome of this will be the US installing Zelensky as Russian leader. This idea doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
I think we can all agree that the world would be a better place if Putin were to be removed, but obviously this is far from straightforward. How do you envisage him being removed?

Please could you expand on your statements, and outline the logic?

Still don't get what you're trying too say buddy.
But, United States of America can not take Putin off that seat as the head.
I think he's been rulling for the past 20 + years in Russia.
They just have too stop the invasion by negotiations, same thing USA did to CUBA, they're doing to UKRAINE .

It dont make sense according to usa plan
Its not logical putin will stay sooner or later they install the zelensky kind of new russian leader in russia.
Thats most logical what will be happening.
Right now buy russia trgough wall street ws are buying it becouse they know future.