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There are many things to be considered. One little battle area doesn't really make the war. Not when Putin is solidifying things like BRICS and other relations with other countries around the world.

Presently, the US is the glue that holds the world together. But there are many peoples around the world that don't like the way the US has done it. These peoples are being united by Putin and other leaders.

The Ukraine war is coming along just fine for Putin. He is proving that he is willing to uphold Russian citizens wherever the are. And he is doing it even in the face of the US puppet government in the Ukraine.

Putin is gaining it, not losing it.

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the Eu and the UN do not want ukraine to join the UN/EU memberships whilst hanging onto that eastern zone

so although the EU/UN will help in certain subtle ways for ukraine to defend the central/north/south/west ukraine area. the UN/EU dont care much for the eastern zone..

the eastern zone is upto zelensky/putin to decide on/fight for.

i feel that now that the area has been pushed to a point of most ukrainians being relocated out of the eastern zone. it will end up becoming a 'independent' state officially buy EU/UN as a kind of middle deadzone no mans land politically that russia or the eu cannot cross.

that way russia can see it as a safe zone to keep the EU back. and the EU can see it as a safe zone to keep russia back

i cant see it falling into ukraine(future EU member) hands. nor can i see it going full russian either. the only real option is an "independent" state
thats neither russian or ukrainian.

its just going to be a long drawn out process to agree on some middle ground where no one "wins" the land

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Putin isn't sitting twiddling his thumbs. He is forming a new world money-order through BRICS. If you don't want to trade with Russia, okay. Russia doesn't need you. But Ukraine does. They need every scrap they can get.

Personally, I think that essentially Putin and Russia won this little war. However, only time will tell.

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This kind of war which we clearly see it's one-sided since Ukraine has not had enough military or weapons to counter the Russian forces, turned out to be wrong because of the other countries' hidden intervention, and looks like Ukraine has now enough ammunition to clash with Russia. That's why we see this war not getting to its end and also the West is using this opportunity to weaken and force Russia to use all or most of their war resources. It seems like the war will gonna last for a long because neither one of them will surrender, Putin is also determined to use everything he can to get Ukraine.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on September 03, 2022, 04:09:02 PM

Quote from: BADecker on September 02, 2022, 02:58:28 PM

Putin doesn't really want to destroy the Ukraine. The gradual destruction of 100 to 200 Ukrainian troops a day is enough. Wear them down until they and their various supporting countries sort of fade away.

Meanwhile, go on over to Iran and make special deals, starting special trade agreements. And welcome other nations to BRICS to continue the destruction of the USD as the world currency.

And don't simply dump gas and other trade materials to Europe, even though much of Europe has become the enemy. Rather, slowly cut them off, so that they see how seriously wrong they were to antagonize Russia.

Putin is reasonably pleased with how the war is going, and the new heights it has pushed his country to. It's even turning out that he might not even have to use nukes to set things straight.

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That's quite a cool plan and if I may say, a good tactic Putin needs to take into consideration because honestly the guy looks frustrated. Imagine destroying major cities in Ukraine and taking control of the nuclear plant in Zaporhizia has still not weakened Zelensky.
Ukraine keep countering Russia's offensive attacks and I'm tempted to believe Putin is fed up.

If you look into Zelensky's history, your will find that he was at one time an actor.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 02, 2022, 02:58:28 PM

Putin doesn't really want to destroy the Ukraine. The gradual destruction of 100 to 200 Ukrainian troops a day is enough. Wear them down until they and their various supporting countries sort of fade away.

Meanwhile, go on over to Iran and make special deals, starting special trade agreements. And welcome other nations to BRICS to continue the destruction of the USD as the world currency.

And don't simply dump gas and other trade materials to Europe, even though much of Europe has become the enemy. Rather, slowly cut them off, so that they see how seriously wrong they were to antagonize Russia.

Putin is reasonably pleased with how the war is going, and the new heights it has pushed his country to. It's even turning out that he might not even have to use nukes to set things straight.

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That's quite a cool plan and if I may say, a good tactic Putin needs to take into consideration because honestly the guy looks frustrated. Imagine destroying major cities in Ukraine and taking control of the nuclear plant in Zaporhizia has still not weakened Zelensky.
Ukraine keep countering Russia's offensive attacks and I'm tempted to believe Putin is fed up.

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The war began without a specific time limit. Russia announced that it would end the war when its goals were achieved.

According to the course of events, the goals revolve around imposing complete sovereignty over the European economy to reduce the US role on the one hand, as well as ensuring an international alliance capable of confronting the West, whether technologically or militarily.

Many experts say that a huge amount of weapons available to Russia has not been used, as it does not consider this invasion its biggest problem, even despite Western support for Ukraine.

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Alright, this is nothing but my personal opinion on the subject. At the start of the invasion, Putin underestimated Ukraine's defense and overestimated his army's capabilities. He believed Kyiv could be conquered within a week and was quickly proven wrong. However, he changed his invasion's strategy shortly after and proceeded to reorganize the whole invasion by setting up a more methodical approach.

A quick look at the war maps and unfortunately, it's evident that Russia is slowly but steadily advancing over the Ukrainian soil. His approach now is much more organized and has managed to disrupt Europe's economy. The war is likely to last more than a year, at least.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on September 02, 2022, 01:03:49 PM

No one is prepared for war or likes to be invaded but you also don't get orchestrate a war and not have adequate resources to finish that said war.

We only see the beginning of a war but the finishing end is unpredictable, i think Russia overrated itself right from the beginning and what it expected wasn't what the actual situation is.

Quote from: Majestic-milf on September 02, 2022, 01:03:49 PM

In the case of Putin, his invasion to Ukraine has lasted for six months and according to reports gotten from professors studying the war, it was gathered that Putin felt the war would last for a week or so and then Ukraine would give in, but I guess he had another thing coming.

Later in live i believe Putin will regret some of his present actions on humanity because innocent bloods will definitely count, fight and speak for themselves, he that lives by the sword will always die by the sword, there's no doubt about this because its a proverb from the wise.

Quote from: Majestic-milf on September 02, 2022, 01:03:49 PM

But then there's the case of replenishment of soldiers because should a war last this long, there's bound to be loss of both manpower and weapons.

Ukraine has alot of backing up powers, what has Russia got as backup?

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Putin's method to take over the world was through free trade. But the US stepped in and along with a bunch of other countries took that option away from Russia. So, Russia is simply trading with other countries that are willing to trade with her... BRICS... and Argentina and Iran are possibly two new ones.

Russia isn't anywhere near collapsing. Putin isn't anywhere near being ousted from Russian government. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on September 02, 2022, 05:01:45 PM

No one, not even Russia (Putin) or Ukraine (Zelensky) had expected the war to last this long but it did.

At least all commentators did better than Putin and his advisors. Ukraine was supposed to be taken in 3 days according to the Russians. They should start their own fortune telling business. People would go to them and they do exactly the opposite of what they tell them.

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We've heard certain leaked news from unknown but presumably reliable sources, stating that the resources are ran out for Russia but somehow, the war continues. That's how prepared both nations are to take up the corse until they could come to a compromise and maybe resolve to a treaty. It would be extremely difficult and non that I expect Russia to give into Ukraine despite western support and still, Ukraine can't just submit as it is indeed a sovereign state and this would lead to another era on there nation where they would have Russia influence. Hence, they both are going to continue until they could dialogue and come by a treaty.

Or until Putin does or gets overthrown. He had a dream of a new Soviet Union but now we see that it will never happen. Former Soviet republics are buying arms and looking for allies. They don't want to be in this union of his.

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No one, not even Russia (Putin) or Ukraine (Zelensky) had expected the war to last this long but it did. We've heard certain leaked news from unknown but presumably reliable sources, stating that the resources are ran out for Russia but somehow, the war continues. That's how prepared both nations are to take up the corse until they could come to a compromise and maybe resolve to a treaty. It would be extremely difficult and non that I expect Russia to give into Ukraine despite western support and still, Ukraine can't just submit as it is indeed a sovereign state and this would lead to another era on there nation where they would have Russia influence. Hence, they both are going to continue until they could dialogue and come by a treaty.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on September 02, 2022, 04:00:54 PM

Quote from: Majestic-milf on September 02, 2022, 01:03:49 PM

In the case of Putin, his invasion to Ukraine has lasted for six months and according to reports gotten from professors studying the war, it was gathered that Putin felt the war would last for a week or so and then Ukraine would give in, but I guess he had another thing coming.

Too late for him now, The international court will be waiting for him that's if he doesn't end his own life first. Putin although has not expected the war to last this long, I'm sure was prepared for whatever outcome.

The international court has no authority except that a number of large nations enforce the court decisions. That would mean nuclear war, trying to enforce an international court decision against Putin/Russia.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on September 02, 2022, 01:03:49 PM

In the case of Putin, his invasion to Ukraine has lasted for six months and according to reports gotten from professors studying the war, it was gathered that Putin felt the war would last for a week or so and then Ukraine would give in, but I guess he had another thing coming.

Too late for him now, The international court will be waiting for him that's if he doesn't end his own life first. Putin although has not expected the war to last this long, I'm sure was prepared for whatever outcome.

BADecker

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Putin doesn't really want to destroy the Ukraine. The gradual destruction of 100 to 200 Ukrainian troops a day is enough. Wear them down until they and their various supporting countries sort of fade away.

Meanwhile, go on over to Iran and make special deals, starting special trade agreements. And welcome other nations to BRICS to continue the destruction of the USD as the world currency.

And don't simply dump gas and other trade materials to Europe, even though much of Europe has become the enemy. Rather, slowly cut them off, so that they see how seriously wrong they were to antagonize Russia.

Putin is reasonably pleased with how the war is going, and the new heights it has pushed his country to. It's even turning out that he might not even have to use nukes to set things straight.

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I see a deliberate long drawn out war being done by Putin. I think he believes he can recreate the cold war from the

50's 60's 70's.

He wants Russia China North Korea Vietnam with maybe India and Iran to form an anti west/capitalist group or block.

Part of the reason Eth is going POS he wants to use Eth to attack POW coins like BTC.

The next year will see Russia bogged down in the Ukraine and the world splitting on capitalism and socialism. Not a very nice

picture to think about. Here is hoping saner heads prevail or that Putin falls ill and has to retire from the lime light.

Majestic-milf

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No one is prepared for war or likes to be invaded but you also don't get orchestrate a war and not have adequate resources to finish that said war.

In the case of Putin, his invasion to Ukraine has lasted for six months and according to reports gotten from professors studying the war, it was gathered that Putin felt the war would last for a week or so and then Ukraine would give in, but I guess he had another thing coming.
But then there's the case of replenishment of soldiers because should a war last this long, there's bound to be loss of both manpower and weapons.

So far it looks like Putin is confused about what to do next concerning what blow to hit Ukraine with that can settle the war in his favor as Zelensky is not giving up anytime soon and backed by Western forces, one would be tempted to conclude the war could end in his favor and quickly too.
But will Putin be willing to throw in the towel or does he have some hidden tactic up his sleeve? https://feed.rhino-news.com/multifeed-detail-template/static/half/detail/20220902/507882654834622516.html

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