Topic: Putin next steps and where it may fail spectacularly (Read 540 times)

Poland, England and America provide full support to Ukraine, not only materially but they also provide weapons to Ukraine, even the assistance they get is extraordinary. Abramovic, even England forbade Abramovic to be involved in managing the blues club, perhaps because of the many supports from strong countries that made Putin's steps a little stopped, and the possibility of Putin's plans failed.

I think that Putin will not give his arm to twist, because I think that he prefers to debate the whole of Ukraine before declaring that it was a mistake, in fact, things by NATO, by the USA with their promises to defend them, I think that this is already a warning to the world that they will not enter to defend it, what matters here is that the crimes that are occurring in Ukraine are increasingly rude and strong, senseless things are happening, attacking hospitals is already something known as war crimes , I don't know if the best thing is that the president of Ukraine finally gives up and no more unjust deaths continue to occur, because what is the use of being stopped in a war when the majority of inhabitants are dying more and more? for a power? a presidency is worth more than those lives that leave the world every moment? I think that you should consider that option, as such, a human being, a child, is more important than the ambitions of governments and organizations that will supposedly defend and what they do is hide.

It's true, now Ukraine had a huge support all over the world.They getting financial, weapons and Medical support by all the neighbouring and Non neighbouring country. Mainly poland support the Ukraine in extreme by the pressure of NATO countries. Poland was in Nato over a years. But it was not counter by the Russia. But this was chosen by the Russia to capture the Ukraine by the name of war.

If there is one of them that is under pressure right now that would be the Russia because they are in sanctions right now. There is no pressure from Ukraine even tho the threats are still there because they know that they are not alone fighting this war but all countries are on their side supporting them till the end. It wasn't the casualties in Ukraine that affects the economy but it was the sanctions given in Russia are.

The Ukraine economy can easily recover after the war is over but there would still be some effects that can be felt not only on them but also to other countries as well due to again the sanctions in Russia. Putin looks so strong but I think he is going to give up soon because if not then more surprises awaits with him.

I'm skeptical that Putin authorizes nuclear weapons but tactical nukes that are smaller in blast radius remain a possibility. Not a large possibility, but enough that would worry the West. There is no winning a nuclear war, and Putin is wise enough to recognize that.

Doesn't seem likely Putin is going to make any concessions that do not involve the initial list of demands (ie Ukraine remaining neutral, refusal to join NATO and such). I am expecting more civilian casualties before the nukes are a factor in the war. I'm sure you've noticed the number of bombs targeting civilian congregations, those aren't mistakes.

Putin launched a military invasion of Ukraine on February 24 not because Ukraine refused to recognize as independent parts of the former territories of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, as well as the Russian-occupied peninsula of Crimea. He wanted to seize the entire territory of Ukraine, eliminate the physical political leadership of the country and install former President Yanukovych, already convicted in Ukraine, as president of Ukraine. In the future, Ukraine should either be completely controlled by Russia or even be included in its composition. That is, for Ukraine, such plans by Putin meant a complete loss of statehood and sovereignty of the country, which is absolutely unacceptable. Therefore, the Ukrainians simply have no choice than to prevent Putin in his nonsense with arms in hand. Which they do successfully. Putin has actually lost this war with Ukraine. Realizing this, as well as the fact that they will have to leave, the Russian occupiers are now totally destroying the infrastructure of Ukraine and its population.

Now that the bombing has been going on for a while, I can safely say that you're wrong. I knew it before, but I think now the world is ready to see it as well. Ukrainian anthem's verses are 'we'll lay our body and soul for our freedom', and it's exactly how Ukrainians feel as a nation. Bombing the cities makes most people not desperate and willing to concede, but the opposite: angrier towards Russia, even more willing to fight back because on top of everything, there's a need to avenge those who were killed so cruelly and unfairly. Putin cannot break the Ukrainian spirit also for another reason: Ukrainians are NOT afraid of him, unlike the Western people. In Ukraine, he's been mostly called 'huilo' since 2014, which is hard to explain to a non-native speaker, but it's closest to 'little f*cker', basically. So it's someone weak, small, worthless. Ukraine is not afraid, and is ready to fight till the end. Conquering a country like this is pretty much impossible. Not to mention all the Western weaponry and money Ukraine's getting, and all the isolation and sanctions Russia is getting.

 I am not sure how easy it will be to get Putin to stop, but you are right, the winner is almost already decided at this point. Putin wanted to get in, take whatever he wants and get out. Ukraine showed that the whole is behind them, and that allowed them to be even more confident than 2014 war as well. The things Putin wanted Luhanks and Donetsk as well, they already took Crimea in 2014 basically. So just officially recognize those three cities as russian basically (independent in name) and remove it from Ukraines control and they would leave. However, Ukraine got so much success and help from the world is that not only they decline their requests, they even ask Russia to leave Crimea as well. Which shows that how badly Putin is losing right now and how much Ukraine gained in confidence.

Based on what we are seeing right now, show that Putin will be the one to give up in this battle between Ukraine and Russian because many countries supported Ukraine President. The war between Russian and Ukraine is really shaking their economy which will take the both countries 5 years before they can have a good economy in their country. Russian government are fully ready to make peace with Ukraine government because they have achieved what they want from the war by proved to Ukraine government that they have all the weapons that can make them to take over their land and resources . 

The war between Russia and Ukraine is now a rivalry of who can stand the pressure more. (The War Casualties in Ukraine or Russia sanctions seriously affecting Its economy)
Frankly, I can't predict who will give up first, but don't think it is Putin or president Zelenskyy cos both look more determined to carry on with the ongoing war.

Freedom is not free. French revolution, the fights with the British kings, the Russian revolution, the Chinesse revolution and many other cases did start with people deciding they wanted something else and I am seeing very little of that in Russia, although there is some.

One of the things they could start by doing is selling their tanks and vehicles (to me if possible) and do not die for Putin.

As a citizen then you wont really be having any choice but to deal with it because there would be no other way except if you are flying to other country which does have better jurisdiction but if not then we are seeing

the possibilities which is happening as of this moment thats why its better to be wise and minding well on how to choose up countries leaders although it isnt an assurance but at least you arent
really that entrusting your country into someone who had that kind of fixed mindset or doesnt really put up some importance on his vicinity.

There is plenty to talk about when you are seeing a crony government, living on crony business, extorting their own countries into making them even richer. And it is that bunch of old men, not only in age but also in mentality and in the way they conceive their relation with other human beings, just the ones that send the young and poor people from the most remote regions of Putin's Russia to die without even telling them what they are doing and without any reasonable argument since their country, their lives, their families nor their culture is being threatened in any ways.

That is all because he is 70 years old and he has gotten whatever he wanted until this age. When you have that kind of hubris, and that kind of power for 70 years, then you turn into a maniac whenever someone tells you that you can't get something.

I mean think about it this way, if Ukraine didn't put up this much resistance when it was crimes (there was still a war, but Russia was more successful) then Putin thinks how come he can't do it now? This is why I believe that we should not be surprised that some maniac at the top of a huge nation with nuclear powers and a big military can't really end up comprehending he is doing something bad, that is because he doesn't really see it as a bad thing, since he is a bad person as well, what he does seems normal to him.

Possibly Putin thought of it as a shame calling off the war, but instead he keep placing further threat to lives and properties of Ukrainian and the international business operators, I still wonder why he's yet to realize that the world stands a backup for Ukraine.

Putin knows that his troops are destroying residential buildings and deliberately shooting at the peaceful civilian population of Ukraine. The captured Russians directly say that they received an order to shoot at the civilian population, shoot at women and children. Now in the south of Ukraine there is a stubborn struggle for the city of Mariupol, and after unsuccessful attempts to capture this city with 400 thousand inhabitants, it is simply destroyed by Russian rockets and artillery. Agreements on the provision of "green corridors" do not work, since at the agreed time the Russians begin shelling the city. Ukrainian intelligence has clearly established that Putin personally instructed not to release the civilian population of Mariupol and not to allow humanitarian supplies into this city. Putin is a killer of the civilian population of Ukraine.

Actually, at first, I do understand the threat that Putin feels for their country and for their territory because of the NATO alliance that courted Ukraine to join in the organization and that's why the Russian president decided to start the war against Ukraine. But now, I see the biggest mistake he has done, I am not sure if it's Putin's order but Russian soldiers' bombing civilian, and maternity hospitals how inhumane is this. The civilians are the most affected ones in war and I hope this war may be over now and not going to waste more life and innocent life.

The mistake that I am seeing here is that Russian's soldiers, with Putin's orders, are bombing civilians, maternity hospitals, which is extremely against humanity. This is why people are identifying this as murderous act and people will not forget about this war. Even journalists are getting killed without a fight. They are breaking the laws of war. It won't be a surprise if Putin will lose his power if he will pursue more damaging methods towards Ukraine. The world is watching so they can't hide what they will do to the people of Ukraine. We are in this digital age where everything now can be recorded and send those images or videos to other parts of the world.

Putin's main mistake is that he attacked Ukraine at all. He is already bogged down in this war and he cannot win this war. Moreover, Ukraine has already inflicted a serious defeat on Russian troops in terms of manpower and equipment, and together with harsh sanctions, this may well destroy Russia itself. If Putin is not killed in the near future from his own entourage, then he himself will die of brain cancer, this disease is already in his fourth stage. But the consequences of the war with Ukraine will be felt by Russians for many decades to come and for many generations to come. Ukraine will quickly recover with the help of the United States and European countries, and Russia will face poverty and a rollback of a hundred years ago in development.

Just for you:

- He expected the EU to act slowly and indecisively. Surprise.
- He expected insignificant sanctions. Surprise.
- He expected UKR to surrender without any serious fight. Surprise.
- He expected his army to be effective. Surprise.
- He expected NATO to do nothing (e.g. not supply weapons). Surprise.
- He expected people not to "notice" in his dominions (e.g. business as usual). Surprise.

And now there are some people even on the rigidly controlled state media stating that "the special operation" may actually turn into an Afghanistan.

Are you sure you do not see any miscalculation here?

I am not in favor of Putin, but I think that despite his strategy of senseless deaths of Ukrainians, including children, which for me are crimes against humanity, there is great intelligence there, the bad thing is that it is used to cause pain , and bring disgrace to many people and families, but I have not yet seen Putin's mistake, his macabre plan has been disguising it under a motto of "I am defending myself against sanctions that are a declaration of war for the Russian people" under this scheme it is obvious that he is taking advantage of certain laws and diplomacy that cannot be ruled out, the only mistake is that he gets into a OTAN country and attacks them, and I think that will not happen.

This is a war. There is nothing but victory or defeat. All public opinion and all the truth and falsehood of the media are weapons that can be used. What is the truth behind you want to know? The truth depends on who is the winner, the winner will tell you, whether you believe it or not, this is the truth, history is so similar.

This is the professional war called the "Proxy War " the Russian disguise in fighting Ukraine's destruction of lives and property, while in reality, the Russian troops wanted the Americans and allies to interfere in the war. But unfortunately, the west and its allies declare no war with Russia on Ukrainian soil. I guess we live for the day.

I also read the news that Miss Universe Ukraine also wore army uniforms and took up arms. so if ordinary civilians dare to defend their country then it is not easy to be defeated, and the possibility of the dispute will last longer, but hopefully that doesn't happen, and both countries realize that humanity is more important than ambition and ego

I think we are forgetting one of the most important facts about nuclear weapons: He who uses one has the certainty that it will not be the last one fired. That is the main reason why they have not been used after WW II.

If Putin uses the old USSR nuclear arsenal, retaliation and counter retaliation are likely to follow... nuclear winter, all humanity dead... How do you de-escalate after a nuke??

That's true even I was quite surprised to hear that Ukrainian civilians were also in the war,
it is a form of love for their homeland I really salute that,
despite all that I really hope this war can end and the world will return to peace

If the fireball of the nuclear detonation touches the surface, it produces large quantities of radioactive dust, which are long term hazardous to human health.

If the nuclear weapon is detonated at altitude, and the fireball doesn't touch the surface, as was the case with hiroshima. Considerably less radioactive dust is produced, drastically improving chances of survival.

Curvature of the earth and horizon line of sight limits also affect the distance the blast radius is able to cover. A spotter positioned on a cliff can "see" further than a person at ground level. Likewise a nuke detonated at higher altitude will "spread" to cover a wider distance, than one detonated at ground zero.

There is also a powerful EMP burst produced by nuclear detonation which destroys electronics.

If he deploys nuclear weapons, a third world war is possible. Putin deploys nuclear war, he will be considered more cruel than Hitler, and that cruelty will last forever. I think by all means the great powers US and China will not let that happen.
It's doomsday. I don't expect anyone to win, I hope the negotiation goes well and neither side has to lose any more.

unfortunately Ukrainians are very brave and ready to die fro their country, wherein even there president joined the battle including womens.

The big mistake of putin is he underestimate Ukrainians and he expecting that within days he can make all the people from Ukraine surrender.

That's the main concern of everyone right now because we know what could be the possible damage that the nuclear weapon may bring to human kind. I do hope that this war will over as soon as possible and could not damage more in both country. Everyone wants to live in peace and that's what we also hope and wish to both affected country. I will not going to condemn the both leaders which one is right but I just hope that both will come to their mind and have a peace talk to avoid more damage and cost more lives.

As long as there is no nuclear war, I am definitely fine with him losing. The only thing that scares me about the current situation is that Putin will try his best and at the very worst case if he looks like he is losing then he may try a nuclear war, and in that case everything will be looking a lot worse. Doesn't mean that I want him to win the war to avoid nuclear war, just means I hope someone in Russia stops him before he starts it. That way we would both save ourselves from a nuclear war AND get rid of Putin at the same time. It will not be easy but it won't be impossible neither.

We could totally see some Russian oligarchs get together and talk about how much money they have lost because of him and dispose of him because of it.

Sending them to commit suicide.
Unlike Ukraine which has soldiers willing to fight but without weapons we in Europe have a ton of them, and unlike Ukrainians who have families and friends in Russia, a lot of us deeply hate Russia, we hate them from the bottom of our hearts, there will be no hesitation when answering this attack! Have you seen the polish response? It's the same for a lot of us.

Plus, how do you plan on invading an alliance that only in Europe has 400 million poeple, with what? They don't have enough resources to compete mobilize 200 000 men and they will fight on a 2000km front? Get real!
Putin has managed to piss everyone, even the Nordic countries who were normally neutral on everything, he has managed to bring the UK closer to Europe then it was before Brexit, everyone was talking about not underestimating Russia, the thing is nobody should underestimate Europe. Stop talking about Napoleon and Hitler, think about what we did to the world when were united and not fighting against each other!



Nuclear bombs don't work this way.
This is Hiroshima, 1945,1946,1948, 1953



By 1950 it had 285,712 poeple living there and now more than 1 million.   

Well, Ukraine has already been accepting crypto donations now like bitcoin, ethereum and tether. And as far as i know, Ukraine has not been receiving from other NATO countries its soldiers to fight against Russia, instead they have been receiving weapons from France and Germany. No one really knows what will be the next move of Putin, im afraid that if he resort using those nuclear weapons, it will cause a lot of disasters and destructions for sure, not only in Ukraine, but even for those neighboring countries.

Only weapons they supply? what about soldiers? I think it is also needed because I can see that even the regular citizen of Ukraine are now being forced to fight but what can these poor people do? they didn't have any experience. Maybe the Germans are also scared when they hear Puttin say those things because they know his attitude and they know that Russians are a strong type of people. They better hurry up because puttin is heating up. I'm afraid that more and more places are going to get damaged as the war continues.

We that are away, praying is the only thing that we can do, for now. I remember that we can also donate our cryptos. They also need it right now.

 If he goes with the nuclear option, thats going to reall ychange the world as we all know it. Nuclear is radioactive, which means it is not just a bomb that blows up some place, it will also make it unhabitable for a long time and will go miles and miles, hundreds of miles away as well so anything near it will be cancerous to people to live. Do not even consider the fact that we are talking about food, fish, trees, animals all getting radioactive and kill people when consumed. So basically this would increase the avarage of cancer patients all over europe. And this is only russia that nukes a place, do not even get me started on other nations responding, we may have a world where we can't live, human life could end if all nukes are sent. Even irrelevant continents would be unhabitable and every single human would be dead.

Am very optimistic there is going to be a balanced ground for the two countries, we all pray for a favorable outcome in the ongoing negotiations Russian President Putin said Russia is ready for negotiations. The whole world is watching and praying for global peace.

Despite the fact that Ukrainians are ready to defend their sovereignty and the male adults from the age of 18 to 60 are ordered not to leave Ukraine most of them already getting military training to protect themselves and their country from Russian invasion, but war is not going to favor anybody since it only leads to destruction with long term negative impact on both countries.

I guess France and Germany have already decided to supply weapons to Ukraine but the rest of NATO countries have remained silent and undecided. Putin definitely wants trouble so he will end up adding it on the list if there will be other countries who will consider to backed Ukraine. However, as per update, Putin orders Russian nuclear deterrence forces on high alert. I think if these Russians will start using ballistic missiles, that would probably means a total mass destruction on part of Ukraine. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/27/ukraine-holds-on-to-kyiv-as-dawn-breaks-as-us-and-europe-impose-massive-new-sanctions.html

I am awaiting if other countries will help them in this war. Germany already are supplying weapons to Ukraine. But no country yet are waging war alongside with Ukraine as Putin declared that there will be ramifications for those who will intervene in this war. I believe some countries are still weighing on how can they help in this situation. They are more on talks right now, but they should not wait any longer as Putin is ready to destroy this country. He won't back out now if he doesn't get what he wants. I hope this will end the soonest as more and more civilians are being affected on this war.

the impact of wars was always devastating, but the freedom of Ukrainian people is priceless, they do everything to protect their rights as the nation. We see  even old men fight with guns, they are very motivated and ready for death, therefore its impossible for Russians to win in the city with 2 million fighters.

Well at the end of the day ukranians are fighting back, the president itself is fighting back, they are trying to do the best that they can for a really long time and at the end of the day, it's hard to imagine how many 18-19 year old men are fighting, 18-60 year old males are not allowed to cross any border and they are asked to go back and fight for their country, things are not really going that great. Putin is loosing trust of the world, not just his people, he wants to use nuclear weapon, he is threatening world war 3. Things are not really going great and at the end of the day I do believe that NATO needs to support because Ukraine is not going to step back and de-arm themselves..the negotiations are rude and stupid, let's see what happens. But Putin will be the person who started ww3 and destroyed the economy of this whole country

Putin won't win this war even if it leads to death of many people. Ukraine has everything better than Russia(I don't mean military aspects, but the spirit of heroes). The truth is on the Ukraine's side and Russia's threat of nuclear bombs has no any real consequence for the international community. Russians have been  threatening the world for 22 years with their nuclear abilities, But look at today's world and international relations, European countries have common approach and approval on sanctions...

We cant really debate on this sensitive topic as it may appear that everyone has life beyond the national duty. Why the oldies are being forced to stay in the country. The country has come down to the point where they need their peeps to volunteer in the war game. The peeps who never handled the gun will be shooting wildly in the field, just imagine how bad it is.

I think we can just pray that things will come down to good terms and everything would reset sooner.

Economically, both countries gonna get hampered. Russia will be worst considering they are being banned from so many associations and SWIFTS.

I can answer that, because all the generals in history have done the same thing: If soldiers have to die, better from an ally or mercenary because they have zero political costs. We are talking Cesar in Gaul using German and Gaul auxiliary cavalry, Napoleon using Polish troops, the Khans using foreign troops to approach city walls,... innumerable examples.

On top of that, if crimes against humanity are considered, Putin can put some distance to it. e.g. Bush using "security personnel" in Irak for the dirties tasks.

To be honest, in the last few days I have always followed the movement of information spread both on television and in foreign media. All I can think about is waiting for the reaction of the US and NATO to react how they side with Ukraine because after that China is ready to attack Taiwan to take advantage of the busy situation of the US and NATO dealing with Ukraine. For now, we're just keeping an eye on the border. Only President Trump can stop Russia from invading Ukraine, only during the presidencies of George Bush, Obama, and now Biden Russia dares to invade Ukraine.
There is a large source of economic income in Ukraine. You know exactly what Putin wants in Ukraine. Because if you join NATO, Russia will not grow strong and fertile in terms of the global economy.

The Ukrainians might be holding off for a while, but I think the Russian forces and the flat earth bombing of major cities are going to break their spirits in the long run. Also, when all men younger than 60 years old are killed in the clashes, mostly women and young children will be left behind to go on with their lives. (What future is that?)

Also, Putin must win this war... for his own people to fear him and for him to stay in power. A defeat to the Ukrainians will put doubts in their minds and we might see him being removed from power. 

On the contrary to this information , I think Zelensky initially turned that location down. He refusing meeting in Belarus. He said also that he won't be in a meeting in any country where Putin used to attack Ukraine. But now he has accepted to meet with Russia for the meeting at the border of Belarus. They are going to start having talks on seize fire, but for now there is street fight in Kharkov between Russia Army and Ukraine as they entered the second city.

     Honestly, I am pretty impressed with the Ukrainian people they are evidently brave citizens. Imagine people who were out of the country even went home just to defend their country from this madness. Their president which is a comedian was offered to be escorted out of Ukraine but instead asked for ammunition and is still staying at the capital. This may have been the thing that has pushed the morale of the Ukrainian people and seeing things as they are now, I think they are considering to fighting it out to the bitter end. I hope it doesn't reach to that point though.

Their President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a big inspiration for all of us he is ready to die for his country, he is getting a lot of support from the international community, I just hope they are banned from SWIFT banking being cut off from Swift could shrink Russia's economy by 5%, it's going to be a huge mistake if the world let Putin conquer Ukraine he will go further, it's time for the world to shrink Russian economic power to stop Putin's war funding.
There are reports that Germany is sending ammunition and rockets to Ukraine to help them against Russia.

Ukraine can't be defeated. If we look at the  history we will see what they've done for the freedom and peace. their nation survived after Holodomor in 1992-1993, WW2. they have been fighting for decades against authoritarianism and they deserve all of the good things... Therefore they won't give up because heroism is in their blood. Glory to Ukraine!

This may turn into a world war very quickly. These recent events remind me of what happened during the first 2 world wars. War and hyperinflation always go hand to hand and we are just about to experience this. Maybe the covid19 plan of the elites were failed so they came up with this to reset the economy for good this time. War is about to break out just when the US is having record high inflation in the last 40 years. I don't think this is a coincidence.

He put 150k trups near border. He is attacking not only Kiev, but the whole of Ukraine. First he bombed some targets (supposedly not even strategic) and attacked without declaring war, calling his actions "operation". I think at first he wanted to scare Ukraine with 150k troops. Then he started "operation" which goal was to capturing Kiev, exterminate the present authorities and take power over Ukraine.

But he failed. He underestimated Ukraine's bravery and overestimated his abilities.


But he failed to do it in "minimize civilian casualties" way. His goal is no longer do it  in "minimize civilian casualties" way. By bombing residential buildings they proved it.

The latest news says that Russia was able to arrange a meeting with the Ukrainian delegation in the city of Gomel, which is located in Belarus. The President of Belarus was able to convince Zelensky to meet with Russian representatives.
Let's pray that the negotiations will be held at the right level, and finally, the unnecessary war will be stopped.

So is Putin spending 20 billion per day over mercenary, separatist, and Chechen guerilla fighters? If Putin only doing these to annex Ukraine then I must say he is dumb. But is that really that simple? I do not think so. What if Putin attacks Poland or other Eastern NATO countries with Belarus? What is the meaning of keeping the main forces in reserve and sending mercenaries to the battlefield? Why did he send 2000 mercenary troops to occupy Kyiv? We need these answers to understand what is going to happen. possibilities of Using nuclear weapons is close to zero. They are trying to minimize civilian casualties till now so using nuclear arms makes no sense.

The only way for this to end quickly now is for Putin to stop existing. He has surrounded himself with yes men for the last 20 years and lives an extravagant life far detached from anything the average Russian will see. He expected Europe and the world to simply shout a few stern words, for the invasion to be over in a day and to have a puppet government in place by yesterday. However it has now become a fight for democracy versus the evils of his authoritarian style of governance. He has threatened Sweden and Finland with military action if they ever make a decision on their own future. He has created a devastating economic and cultural shock to Russia, far beyond what he ever could have imagined. Sadly, the coward he is - this will mean more death and destruction as he tries to crush opposition. He is leading the world towards world war 3 because he is an old man with no future - it doesn't matter what happens and this is his attempt to rebuild a USSR that failed for all the same reasons.

According to this guy:
https://twitter.com/RihoTerras - "Member of European Parliament @EPPGroup 🇪🇪 @EP_Industry,  @EP_Agriculture. Deputy coordinator for @EP_ArtifIntel. Former Chief of Defence of Estonia."

Russia has only 10 days to achieve their goals (win Kiev) because 1 day of war cost them 20 billion dollars.

So its super important to help Ukraine. Put pressure on governments of your countries (they want your votes). Make them do all they can to help.

Fiancial help is also needed. For example here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59373361


I'm afraid that after 10 days without success Putin will be faced with a choice:

1- negotiating and eventually accepting failure
2- "Stalin mode" - to arouse fear and demeanor
3- troop regrouping and ultimatums - "Kiev has 2 days to surrender or the nuclear bombs will make it disapear"

The Ukrainian soldiers are fighting hard for the country try to defend their position and don't allow the Russian military to enter the Kyiv and protect it's citizen.Have seen many distrupting videos of attacks and many losing their lives in this ego war against the Ukraine.The soldiers are giving their best for the country like this one is true act of bravery and will be remembered for long time :

They are getting huge support from the people and crypto community that they have gathered around $4.4 million in their wallets and have urged people also to give btc and eth support to them as to fund the war and soldiers.


Poland has already been sending the ammunition and food packages to Ukraine through different modes but have said they will deliver it to the borders and will not directly indulge in war with them or in military operations.

Czech Republic has promised to deliver 30000 pistols and around 7-8k revolvers to them and other facilities.

Netherlands to supply 200 stinger missiles to Ukraine along with other 25 nations including US, France and Germany who are providing weapons and military support to Ukraine.

Global assistance to Ukraine

There are far more financial as well social consequences which Russia will also had to bear in the long run even if he intends to take this war long as Ukraine is not getting defeated easily.

China always has cheap tactics and thinking to follow it's path over to Taiwan and thinking lending support to Russia will make it's position more stronger on world level but will aslo end up in same direction.

This war is actually playing to multiple advantages for Russia. On one-hand it's going to start another refugee crisis for the EU. Poland is already overwhelmed by the refugees being sent its way by Belarus (likely under Russian instruction) and now it'll have to take in Ukrainians too. Then on the other-hand, the same refugee crisis is going to alter the demographics of Ukraine, as Ukrainians flee and the ethnic Russians stay behind. If Putin ruin Ukraine enough before leaving it, the Ukrainians that fled might not come back in decades, giving time for the Russians to multiply.

Russia since the tsarist to Soviet times has repeatedly tried to Russify the region. Catherine the Great for example expelled the Tatars from Crimea and Stalin created a famine to kill off Ukrainians. Both then settled the areas with Russians. Russians in Ukraine would always be loyal to Russia. That's were they came from. Ukraine's biggest mistake is not making actions to rectify this Russification imposed on them in the past.

just before putin launched his attack on ukraine he would have been convinced he had to win a few sides countries but ukraine was also prepared for a long-running attack from russia. if ukraine succumbs then it is certain that many cities will be captured by russia, I support Ukrainians to protect the country and the cities that are rightfully theirs. the good news is that donations from outside keep coming for ukraine, their economy will definitely not be shaken.

I think this war is unnecessary show of power and military strength and to Russia, it won't be achieved as such because of the NATO countries support. For now no country have openly supported Russia, maybe they are just watching . People are dying in Ukraine over 200 people now and this is not a joke, it is unfortunate that we are commenting like spectators in a football match but my heart is heavy how leaders don't care to attack others because they are stronger but in this, the stronger may not be supreme, the Ukraine president has declared to die and not to surrender. I hope a resolution is reached soon before the number of deaths rise higher.

But I have heard that a part of Ukraine citizens are formerly from Russia so they are now supporting the liberation but not actually in the war mode but since all the things started already the end is not going to be very smooth. Also we can see some news that NATO countries are preparing their soldiers to support Ukraine.

Kiev could fall if NATO haven't deployed its special troops to the capital. I know officially NATO is not involved but there are plenty of proofs that Black Ops unite are being deployed in Ukraine. Now its Russia vs NATO unofficially. Most of the Russia's main force are still not deployed and their advanced tank and aircraft still on the ground. I do not know what Putin's ultimate objective is but after so much preparation it seems he is not interested for a quick victory which concern me most. I think his objective is something else that's why he mostly using mercenary unit and keep his main force in reserve. Pretty sure he hasn't achieve his first object yet which is still unknow.

I have watched videos and see how Ukrainians are reacting to what Putin has done. Ukraine do not allow male adults under 60 years to leave the country, many Ukraine citizens are volunteering and ready to join Ukrainian military force, the process to join made easier.

What surprised me most about this is that Ukraine government are now accepting bitcoin, ethereum and tether donations, millions of dollars has been deposited into the crypto addresses control by the Ukrainian government.

France declaring to be sending military weapon to Ukraine, Germany today stood up too on removing Russia from Swift and also decleared sending weapon to Ukraine, Germany and Netherlands has decleared sending weapon to Ukraine, France also said she will send more. 25 NATO countries will send weapon (I may not get everything right, but what I have been following).

With the help of NATO and other helpings from outside Ukraine, I do not think Ukrainians will decide to accept that they have been defeated. Just my take. We wish the war to end soon, but I do not think Putin will let that happen anytime soon.

The longer it is taking Russia to win, the harder it will become for Russia, sanctioning may not work fast, but it may dawn on Russia over long time period. Although, China said to open trade for Russia.

It is no surprise, but Putin wants to Bielorussify Ukraine. You need a force of 190 thousand strong to depose the government, you need three months to create a new one, including a submissive police force.

You cannot keep the army in there for ever. Those soldiers are costly to maintain and it seems like the Ukrainian population are not quite getting the grasp of the "liberation" and are likely to setup a long an difficult urban warfare followed by an obstinate resistance.

My concern now is that Putin cannot back from his personal gamble and if this go guerrilla he may commit atrocities beyond what we think possible - going Stalin mode on Ukraine.

In my view, Ukraine cannot be defeated until the Ukrainians themselves decide that they have been defeated.