Topic: Putin: workers extra hours, companies to supply war, Draft under discussion (Read 110 times)

Once again I will say - I love your humor, especially such a subtle banter over a backward, wild, embittered country like Russia! 

Yeah, and about the EU is very funny too! And this is "Russia will wait for autumn" - in the fall, her corpse will twitch the first death cramps, and she will wait  Wait, silently, periodically poking with a stick, there will be everyone around this corpse!

And about the nonsense of a miserable tyrant - it's like the squeals of an impotent, at whom everyone laughs, and he's like "I haven't even got up yet, now he'll get up, and you will understand who they were laughing at." But everyone laughs even louder, knowing that he has been hanging from birth, but all his life he tells stories about himself as a hero-lover

It is news. RF was supposed to be a superpower, overwhelmingly superior in weapons, technology and human resources to Ukraine, yet here we are. It is important that the RF citizens realise that they have been lied to and that there is going to be a strong effect on their livelihood during the next few years. I recently read an article about the amount of munitions used in the war. The strategy of massive shelling is sucking up resources at a pace not seen in recent decades.


You forgot to add that the Queen of England should go on pilgrimage to Moscow travelling on her knees to ask forgiveness for His Majesty the Tzar Adolf Putin.

Adolf Putin and his philosophy of death is not Russian culture, is just a psychopath.


It is not at all, Adolf Putin is paying new soldiers three time the RF average salary and has raised the age limit of conscripts to 65 years old. Young people are not willing to go to a war that is hellish and, to all point, unnecessary. They are aware of the massive losses, the corruption, the culture of harassment and the poor leadership.

The RF has lost thousands of well trained and seasoned troops and has quite a bit of a hard time finding replacements (who can blame the young - their country is not at risk).


Agreed, but how is not Putin a nationalist gayphobic Russian supremacist?

Wartime efforts require a lot of resources. They can't stimulate their economy using oil alone. They need extra output from their workers.

The draft seems a bit sensationalist. There is enough manpower from the Russian army, it just seems morale is low. There isn't anyway to fix this unless Putin just plans on cycling soldiers out using a draft system. It'd be counterintuitive to ship untrained draftees out into war.


This is not even close to WW2. Ironically enough it's the Ukrainians that have a problem with neo-Nazism. That doesn't justify invasion, obviously.

The Russians just want to see how Europe will be begging them to turn the gas back on closer to winter. The Russians want to hear an apology from Europe for the stolen money. The Russians want a loud and public apology from Europe for Russophobia and the attempt to abolish Russian culture. The Russians want to see Europe on its knees for supporting Nazism in Ukraine. The Russians want to see Europe in the chaos of riots toppling their own governments. For the sake of such a spectacle, the Russians are ready to remain silent and wait as long as necessary.

The West ran into the wrong guy and will pay dearly for it. Putin said today: "In Ukraine, we have not even started seriously yet."

This is honestly beginning to look a lot like WW2, what Putin is doing might be inspired by the ways of Hitler or might be influenced by his disease as well, but it does not justify asking the companies to produce armed weapons or to supply it for their special military operations. What am not being able to comprehend is why people are not speaking against it, why are they mum ? They need to collectively try and continue their protests, I am aware of the protests that was happening and how the college students were supposedly asked to favour 'Z' but at the end they have to understand that no one wins a war and eventually they will be under the economic unrest, they already are but they don't realize and the value of the ruble is a big bubble waiting to burst.

The companies in the Russian war industrial complex will have to work extra hours in order to supply the Russian army with more weapons, gun shells, missiles and other sorts of ammunition. This is normal for a war. The Russian army will have replenish it's ammunition reserves and also spend a lot of gun shells in Ukraine. This requires more work and bigger production by the war industrial complex.
The Russian blitzkrieg failed, but the plan B of having a slow and steady advance by capturing one city at a time works.
Also there are rumors about an ongoing hidden mobilization of Russian conscripts. I don't know if this is true or a propaganda lie.
Anyway, I don't think that this topic is really related to economics. This is more like political discussion.

I don't think this is new news (as in it was kinda expected they'd do something like that) but I don't think Russia have got very far or will with this. Both sides lacked resources to put of much of a reasonable fight against each other too (both with limited and archaic equipment).

Luhansk and Donetsk aren't even fully controlled by Russia and it's already taken it this long to get that far (even though there were allied rebel fighters in both of those areas)...

About a week ago another war economy sets of measures have been imposed on RF citizens and business:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/jul/06/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-donetsk-governor-urges-evacuations-amid-russian-offensive




I wonder what this discussion is about, given that not only parts and repairs are needed... also fresh cannon fodder (AKA young untrained RF soldiers).

What is clear is that what started as "oh... we will take the whole of Ukraine without a fight in a week and be home by lunch" has become a nationwide struggle to pay for a war that is ongoing. At the pace the RF army advances, this may last a long time while the RF citizens decide to flee the draft or stay and risk unemployment and scarcity.