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Before start thinking about making paper wallet better listen to this video by Andreas Antonopoulos who is saying that you should Stop Using Paper Wallets!
That is coming from someone who recommended paper wallet in early days and even sold kits for making paper wallets with his company.
He is claiming that they are now obsolete technology, and last five years he keeps telling people not to use paper wallets.
They are singlekey wallets that can have only one receiving address, and they are not meant to be used by most people and newbies.

Video explanation: https://youtu.be/iNHVbDtUL0E

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Quote from: IdMineThat on December 25, 2021, 02:00:18 AM

Any feedback on pwall.org as a paper wallet generator?

I think the paper wallet stuff is not much in vogue anymore unlike how it was a few years ago when Bitcoin wasn't so much known. This day, the open source wallets have taken over because of ease in securing them. Passphrases and passwords are easier to save and recall than Pkeys. I guess that's why. You may want to jettison that wallet generator and follow the link for electrum wallet put out here by members above me.

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Expected to be scammed by every web-based generator.

Not all website is eager to scam people people, at least we have trust worthy website that is sincere in terms of any investment, we can't use the crime of another platform to destroy or justify other investment platforms, the problem we are having to this scam investment platforms, is the time factor to peruse or scrutinized a platform before enrolling into it, for something like that to happen, except it's a situation whereby the web developer have interior motive to scam people and at the time of building the site other illegalities is added to scam people.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on December 25, 2021, 03:45:02 PM

I will go somewhat similar to what @hosseinimr93 said, but I will not suggest an actual wallet.
I will suggest IanColeman mnemonic generator: https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39/releases/latest/

Although the Ian Coleman tool is a good tool but it still is not a real wallet software. It is best to stick to your initial suggestion and use an actual wallet software such as Electrum that also generates a mnemonic or any other trustworthy alternative* to generate your paper wallet.

A trustworthy alternative is a software that is 100% open source and has been around for a considerable amount of time and has been reviewed by experts during that time so that it has no bugs or malicious code.

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Quote from: IdMineThat on December 25, 2021, 02:00:18 AM

Any feedback on pwall.org as a paper wallet generator? Didn't really see a lot of negative, but still hesitant to trust.

I will go somewhat similar to what @hosseinimr93 said, but I will not suggest an actual wallet.

I will suggest IanColeman mnemonic generator: https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39/releases/latest/
Download it somewhere safe, maybe a stick with an OS on it, boot without network from that stick, generate a mnemonic seed, write it to a piece of paper, write down (make sure you do it correctly!) a few addresses derived from that seed, wipe the content of the USB stick and you're basically good.

The seed is easier to write onto paper without errors, keep it safe. It should be even better than an old school paper wallet.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 25, 2021, 02:56:11 PM

There was one paper wallet generator last year if I remember correctly that turned out to be exploited and unsafe, so it can happen again.

You remember correctly. That was bitcoinpaperwallet(dot)com.
The website turned into a scam after its ownership was changed. The new owner was giving pre-generated addresses to people.

Anyone interested to know what happened to bitcoinpaperwallet(dot)com can click here and read the topic created by hugeblack.

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Quote from: IdMineThat on December 25, 2021, 02:00:18 AM

Any feedback on pwall.org as a paper wallet generator? Didn't really see a lot of negative, but still hesitant to trust.

I do not know what led to this question, probably to know the authenticity of the site you mentioned above. But if you are looking for a site you can generate a paper wallet using bitaddress html file on airgapped device can be good. But I wouldn't recommend that when there are means this can be done on HD wallets. Check the post below and what hosseinimr93 posted above.

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on December 25, 2021, 10:46:32 AM

Or even better, create a wallet using an open-source tool, write down the seed phrase and keep the paper in a safe place. (That's recommended to be done on an air-gapped device)

That is true, just want to include a recommendable wallet which is Electrum.

IdMineThat. If you are looking for a means to generate a paper wallet, you can just download Electrum from https://electrum.org and verify its signature

If you safely generate a seed phrase and addresses on an airgapped device, then it's all fine. The seed phrase should be safely backup, like on paper, then you can delete the wallet on the airgapped device. Deleting it and having its backup this way makes it a paper wallet.

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Quote from: IdMineThat on December 25, 2021, 02:00:18 AM

Any feedback on pwall.org as a paper wallet generator? Didn't really see a lot of negative, but still hesitant to trust.

I never hard about this paper wallet generator website before and I would be careful using anything new, even if it is open source.
There was one paper wallet generator last year if I remember correctly that turned out to be exploited and unsafe, so it can happen again.
bitaddress.org is well known for generating paper wallets for Bitcoin, but whatever website you use remember to always use it only offline.

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Quote from: Bitfort on December 25, 2021, 10:04:09 AM

You can just print address and private key generated by any wallet.

Or even better, create a wallet using an open-source tool, write down the seed phrase and keep the paper in a safe place. (That's recommended to be done on an air-gapped device)

Dealing with a seed phrase (a series of words) is definitely easier than dealing with a private key.
There's a high probability that you make a mistake when writing a private key. You can easily write the seed phrase on a piece of paper without any need to a printer.

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Quote from: nc50lc on December 25, 2021, 02:34:01 AM

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Anyways, why don't you just create a paper wallet using Bitcoin Core, Electrum or other trusted clients?
You just have to export the private key of the address that you picked.
It's basically the same except for the fancy wallet layout that you can print.

Exactly.

@OP better make you own pwall.
You can just print address and private key generated by any wallet. Electrum will be the best option IMO.
Note printing address is not necessary as it can be derived from the private key ...it's just for you to ease identification which address this key is for.

Also better to print both text and QR code for ease import.

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While the GitHub repository and site use the trustworthy "bitcoinjs-lib.js" and the hashes checks out,
it's still using an outdated version 3.3.2 which might contain bugs that were fixed within that 4-year gap.

Anyways, why don't you just create a paper wallet using Bitcoin Core, Electrum or other trusted clients?
You just have to export the private key of the address that you picked.
It's basically the same except for the fancy wallet layout that you can print.

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Any feedback on pwall.org as a paper wallet generator? Didn't really see a lot of negative, but still hesitant to trust.

Thanks.

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