Topic: Q: Is it better for a child to be born or to be loved? (Read 2338 times)

Child are born to be loved. And if the child doesn't get love than it would definitely affect him/her in many ways. Generally Many people are against the birth of a girl and they simply kill her once she is born and that's simply not fair. Girls are more ambitious and successful then boys.

You are right. We need more children as Government is not doing anything in changing the country it will be youth who will make the differences whether its a boy or a girl. And Abortion is a crime That's for sure. So its better that we accept whether its a boy or girl and love them.
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No, I'm not wrong. It seems like you two are not up to date with the recent news to nanotechnology and such.
The people that are currently living might actually reach age 200-300 depending if you have funds to pay for that.

You are right. We need more children as Government is not doing anything in changing the country it will be youth who will make the differences whether its a boy or a girl. And Abortion is a crime That's for sure. So its better that we accept whether its a boy or girl and love them.

You are wrong. We NEED more children. Otherwise, humanity will slowly die. It will peak at 9-10 billions 50 years from now and then start decreasing. Couse birth rate are going down. When it will happend there is no ways to stop the death of human race. Several hundreds years and we are finished. So we need society structure that will guarantee reproduction of a humanity. That's it!!

Child deserves both the above things.

To be born and then to be loved by people surrounding him. But many countries are still against the birth of a girl they simply or kill her once she is born and this is a sick mentality. We are in 21st Century but its difficult to accept the fact that people still have this beliefs.

Therein lies the ignorance of science.

Peddle your pseudoscientific emotional appeal garbage "arguments" elsewhere, fool. Neither kicking nor "moving" is a reasonable measure of sentience. A horse might do the same. A newborn infant is roughly the intellectual equivalent of a dog, a 3 year old child is roughly the intellectual equivalent of a chimpanzee.

Dogs are not sentient, chimp sentience is up for debate, so we can say that a child under three years old is not yet capable of sentience.

In the materialistic/Capitalistic U.S. children exist as part of their parents retirement plan.  They love money more than their kids.  You can see it in their 'no regard for the future; sell out, pollute, and poison the country if it increases profit a bit' attitude.

Does a baby not choose to move around inside of a mothers stomach when it hears certain music?  Or kick when it hears a certain voice? 

How very fascist of you.

The pendulum swung far to the right, and this once-fascist nation became the most hideously violent in the history of the world. Now the pendulum swings hard in the opposite direction, where do you suppose it will lead?
Did you know that in Germany today, the de linke ("the left") party, which controls 13% of parliament seats has a motto, "Germany can do better than capitalism". These few are radical people who believe decent food, shelter, healthcare, and education should be provided to all human beings as a birthright.

Ever since WW2 Germany has been slowly drifting to the left, and now Germans are legitimizing the radical views of anticapitalists by putting them into positions of governance. In the long run, the great irony may prove to be that Germany's relatively recent brush with fascism is the reason that nation will be leading the pack for the 21st century's revolution focused around compassionate ethics. Adolf, you are the reason Germany became an early Mecca of Compassion at the beginning of the End of Capitalism. Perhaps this is your atonement...

Firstly A child must be born! No use of loving until he's born
After he's born then he must get some love


Edit: Some people may take the first line seriously! Please don't! It was just meant to be for fun!

"You are ending a life".

You cannot end something that has not yet begun. A fetus is not a life, not yet. In strict medical terms a fetus is a parasite, and the pregnant female is the host.

"The child doesn't have a choice."

It's not a child, it's a fetus, utterly incapable of making any choice. Sentience (self-awareness) is a pre-requisite for decision making.

"ADOPTION IS ANOTHER OPTION"

Adoption requires the medical risks and financial implications of going through a full-term pregnancy. This is not truly an option for most people, for example pregnant teens straddling the poverty line.

"MANY WOMEN ARE ENDANGERED BY ABORTIONS"

Poorer women do seek out the cheapest abortions, and some of them become ill or die as a result. If this offends you, lobby to all abortions funded by taxes.

"DOCTORS ARE SUPPOSED TO SAVE LIVES"

That is not a valid argument, it is a cheap appeal to emotion.

"TIMES HAVE CHANGED >> Leaving your child on someone’s doorstep or committing murder are both considered a major penalty, so why not abortion?"

Yes, times have changed. Roe v. Wade was over 40 fucking years ago now, abortion is legal and it will always remain legal. Get over it, conservatards.

"THERE WOULD BE LESS MENTAL ANGUISH CAUSED"

Yeah, I'm sure there was WAY less mental anguish back when abortion was illegal and pregnant women were killing themselves with coathangers and staircases to abort unwanted pregnancies.  

Of course I have a family, doesn't everyone (almost)? I don't have children and have no plans on getting any.
This is where morality and rationality confront each other. It's quite irrational to put even additional stress on each country because of this, assuming the government does what you just proposed. We already have other conditions and events that will start draining our countries within the next decades unless solutions are found (e.g. Alzheimer Disease).

Do you have a family and children yourself? I betting that you dont. Couse if you would have them you wouldn't be talking this way. Abortion is illegal. Any religion also assuming abortion is illegal. Its a murder. Any childhave a right to live. And goverment should work to give a good life and care for every child.

Can't even think of Abortion, How can be people so cruel?? I mean are they human beings or an animal??
Even Animals are lovable and they do love their child too but the nature of human beings really difficult to understand. Give a birth to child and love him.

Just read that link name 'allwomenstalk'. I'm expecting something irrational and unreasonable.
Most of the points are low class journalism. Ending a life on such level can't even be compared to killing ants (complicated if we take a look at structure). It is life on a cellular level and yes the "child" doesn't have a choice because it doesn't even know that it exists. Please tell me how it is better for a child to grow up with abusing parents which includes alcohol, drugs abuse and psychical abuse than not be born at all. Such traumas stay permanent most of the time.

I honestly believe that it is better not have a child if you're not going to provide the proper care that it needs.

Re: Q: Is it better for a child to be born or to be loved?

7 Reasons Why Abortion Should Be Illegal ... :

http://allwomenstalk.com/7-reasons-why-abortion-should-be-illegal

I believe loving is the best thing in this world. And once the child is born he will definitely loved by his parents I don't understand why some women goes for abortion knowing that she is going to give a birth to a girl??
This is narrowmindness and above i believe its a crime.

Thanks for your support, Hitler. Give my love to Satan if you see him around.

This is awesome. Suck it, quasi-fascist christian conservatives.

Capitalism has something to do with every conversation, especially one discussing an expensive medical procedure.

It is much easier to get rid of or suppress your dumb ideas when you don't have offspring that have been trained to think like a moron.

Capitalism has nothing to do with the conversation.

You're going down, Adolf. You mass-murdering failed artist piece of shit!

That's only because you're too stupid to realize that ideas don't need sperm and eggs to multiply. Oops, I've just spoiled that for you, haven't I? Sorry about that.

Capitalism is an idea whose time has come to die. Nothing you can do or say - no amount of praying, breeding, indoctrinating, imprisoning, lying, murdering, or even pleading with the oppressed - can change that now.

Warm regards,

An anarchist in the information age.

Thanks, religion! Remember folks, god is male, so men are "closer to god". 

Borned and loved is the best thing in the world. Generally people don't like to give birth to the girls and they just abort it or kill her after giving a birth and that sounds very terrible horrible and illogical. Today women are also as successful as men and more talented .

Not sure about the rest of the readers but I am pretty damn happy your not reproducing 

I got a vasectomy and my girlfriend got pregnant 4 months later. She aborted that fetus like the unwanted parasite it was, and I got another vasectomy. Fuck "god's will", these are our lives! Not his, and certainly not yours, reader.

Love is a chemical reaction happening in your brain, like every other emotion. I know, I know, googling is hard work, so I did it for you.

http://www.ted.com/talks/helen_fisher_studies_the_brain_in_love?language=en

http://www.dnalc.org/view/2384-Dopamine-Oxytocin-Rewards-and-Bonding.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vXX33C6Mg

"Fire runs through my body with the pain of loving you. Pain runs through my body with the fires of my love for you. Pain like a boil about to burst with my love for you, consumed by fire with my love for you. I remember what you said to me. I am thinking of your love for me. I am torn by your love for me. Pain and more pain -- where are you going with my love? I am told you will go from here. I am told you will leave me here. My body is numb with grief. Remember what I said, my love. Goodbye, my love, goodbye"
-Anonymous Kwakiutl Indian, southern Alaska, told to a missionary, 1896.

It is the fortune of a child where he is born?? I mean if he is born in rich family he is definitely be loved by his parents and other family members for sure. But will it be the same situation if he borns in a poor family?? As they themselves are struggling for living they don't even educate their children so that they start earning money.

Once the child is born its the basic necessity of life that he should be loved by his parents Love is everywhere we live only because are we are getting loved by our near and dear ones so a woman should not think about the abortion noboday has a right to kill anyone.

In America, a woman is free to abort because it is her property. However...

If her husband accuses her of stealing HIS property from him, a common law court may decide against her. (Talking about a common law court of record here.) In addition...

The woman has built-in psychological and emotional aspects that will destroy her in later life if she does not have a super-good reason for the abortion. And...

She will have to face God in the judgment. She can be totally forgive if she has faith in Jesus salvation, but her glory will be less in the hereafter because of it.

How can you say that being alive sucks?? It totally depends upon you how to handle your life and make it meaningful No one is born Movie Star or a President It depends on how your parents nurture you and that is only possible when you are being loved by your parents.

Depends on the perspective i guess.  Sometimes being alive sucks, life is not always great.  Perhaps if not born the energy of the child stays in the non physical realms and is happier, who knows.

Every child is born with some special qualities So ofcourse its better to be born and then loved by parents this are the basic principles of life. Knowing that she is a girl and kill her is a Stupidity. And Abortion ofcourse not an great choice. Thats cruelity.

My view is that the parents are financially stable enough to bear and subsequently love their child and do all necessary things to continually improve the life of that child into young adulthood. Having kids by mistake isn't responsible and having them to game the welfare system is downright parasitical. Subsidize something and you get more of it.

Yes, that must be why he killed the entire human population on the planet, with the exception of Noah and a couple of his closest ones.

That must be why he not only ordered but also carried out things like genocide himself.

Yeah.

Follow-up question: Is it better to breathe or be alive?
 

i really dont understand the subject

how can it be loved if it isnt born?wierd question

only you can know when you live it.

What is love then?

In God We Trust (each one on is own). Translated by:

 In God I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+I+...+I trust.

Doesn't really matter; what matters is whether or not we should force others to do as we wish of them.  I say, if you will abort, then abort; if you will raise a child, raise a child; people individually decide what is better for them given the circumstances and taken responsibility over these decisions they make.  If someone has a problem with someone who aborts, they are always free to disassociate; if someone has a problem with someone who will always birth, they are too free to disassociate; what we shouldn't do is make-believe that there's a one-size-fits-all solution to everything and everyone, like there's a single right answer to millions of lives in millions of unique situations.

But I agree with you, the idea that people collectively own each other is ancient and needs to be abandoned if we'll ever improve as a global society; people should retain complete ownership over themselves and the effects of their actions.  This extends beyond just choice/life of course; the entire idea of a nation state is that one citizen has the right to determine the actions of another.  Even in a democracy, the supposed ideal society as asserted by many, the majority maintains ownership over the minority, so it should come as no surprise that people raised all their life with the belief that they own a stock in their neighbor's lives feel they have a stock in their offspring as well; if a democratic republic is to be taken seriously, your neighbor literally does own a piece of your offspring and can call them theirs, even if only partially.

you don't understand when 2 people meet each other sharing a mutual feeling, some call it love... other prefer to deny it, to impose forced wedding... typical of patriarch losing facing the Empire, the true One.

Love is not something YOU or woman chosing. It's being given to you. By God. This world is beeing moved by love. God is love actually.
So Abortion is wrong in any meaning.

WRONG you don't define choices, the mothers do. furthermore if she doesn't want to love it (as unborn and undefinied), is it torture to be carried by someone who doesn't want you?

but I 100% agree with you second line, however life ain't made of unicorn with tattooed butterfly on the ass for those not getting fdn foc...

WRONG I don't even agree, it's better for both partners to love each others, and from this love a child is born. The rest is unforeseeable... so pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and enjoy what you have, still.

Q: Is it better for a child to be born or to be loved?

Wrong choice.

It's better to born a child and love him.

the Individual is supreme to state, because the state never fight wars.

depends on if pure blooded or surplus to requirements third worlder, people are a states most important asset and important decisions cant be left to such irrational beings as females

Now, you mother fuckers, must understand that as who ever you are, you will to face the consequences of your choices.

Second, it's not OUR CHILD (I quote)... IT'S HER UNBORN CHILD. if you oppose, death my come.


you will fucking wrap fucking mind around this, it ain't OUR or YOURS, but of the woman. end of the discussion.

Justification: A soldier wife decide to abort her pregnancy, she is free, that's the Oath. However better not to be in the position to risk to have to do that. Who are you to judge on her choice about what is or not inside HER body. It's called PROPRIETY. same shit as vaccine. oppose, and learn. no more time to waste with such conditioners. Understand who can, and for those that don't it's the same price ().