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Quote from: LoyceV on November 24, 2022, 12:09:32 PM

Quote from: Bennoko on November 23, 2022, 02:29:03 PM

Lets start with one of my small wallets then
There must be 2,4 or 2,6 btc inside. The adress starts with “1b” as i say.

Such an address doesn't exist. From the addresses starting with 1b, those balances are closest:

Code:

1bWBvFBYhC7EQimqpzXuhC6YRWxR2sAHp   267000000
1bSENgka3LneFxwkZ3P1pHcxvUWZ1M7Ny   265754700
1bEwQYXk2r7qU8tEJjQgHzfV4w85sB3K2   261203852
1bRCJQVVRKhzbCcKwx5i5jrUjRPvLPpHH   255649192
1bNAk5bXvCj2AMYoJcjZDhsfQMuSDcrtT   250000000
1bvmj7iwP5smvBG96b9TwLk7gkQjY4X5Y   249999040
1bShVVeXsi8Y2bhtBQs9g7bcFNXptTsQK   248822374
1bdRr6ZMSoGFYf4mkhJmLaw35UVRugnpa   238282006
1bx6TTeiNFSLdKtPWuGm44nc6rLWRvz3J   225960678
1bRsUZa1yqsAbN6AjizU8q9g5si7LduDn   217433711
1b1cHNTbHpTzTX3QcePA3MjuPypBgQxyJ   217118882
1bQ89331n7YXEUEBEAQNnc7MYVo2qwkXd   214773482
1bwwvbgnEJnmHu8rfkBLhYgmb961CCfuQ   214053567
1bJo1685e1TAU5XLJf54T9DfnuR6qbpNf   212813320
1bKHtuGgLYz4rr91Fz823yXLY2JuniZBh   210000000

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in that adress there must be 6 or 9 transactions and that must be in 3 following consecutive days. Thats my part to look for

If it helps your search, I've split up blockchair_bitcoin_addresses_and_balance_November_24_2022.tsv.gz into smaller files for all Legacy addresses based on their first (second) character, see http://tmp.loyce.club/Bennoko/ (scheduled to be deleted in 30 days).

the amount would be btw 2 to 3 btc around somewhere. i am going to downloading now, i ve lots of work now, thank you a lot

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Quote from: Bennoko on November 23, 2022, 02:29:03 PM

Lets start with one of my small wallets then
There must be 2,4 or 2,6 btc inside. The adress starts with “1b” as i say.

Such an address doesn't exist. From the addresses starting with 1b, those balances are closest:

Code:

1bWBvFBYhC7EQimqpzXuhC6YRWxR2sAHp   267000000
1bSENgka3LneFxwkZ3P1pHcxvUWZ1M7Ny   265754700
1bEwQYXk2r7qU8tEJjQgHzfV4w85sB3K2   261203852
1bRCJQVVRKhzbCcKwx5i5jrUjRPvLPpHH   255649192
1bNAk5bXvCj2AMYoJcjZDhsfQMuSDcrtT   250000000
1bvmj7iwP5smvBG96b9TwLk7gkQjY4X5Y   249999040
1bShVVeXsi8Y2bhtBQs9g7bcFNXptTsQK   248822374
1bdRr6ZMSoGFYf4mkhJmLaw35UVRugnpa   238282006
1bx6TTeiNFSLdKtPWuGm44nc6rLWRvz3J   225960678
1bRsUZa1yqsAbN6AjizU8q9g5si7LduDn   217433711
1b1cHNTbHpTzTX3QcePA3MjuPypBgQxyJ   217118882
1bQ89331n7YXEUEBEAQNnc7MYVo2qwkXd   214773482
1bwwvbgnEJnmHu8rfkBLhYgmb961CCfuQ   214053567
1bJo1685e1TAU5XLJf54T9DfnuR6qbpNf   212813320
1bKHtuGgLYz4rr91Fz823yXLY2JuniZBh   210000000

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in that adress there must be 6 or 9 transactions and that must be in 3 following consecutive days. Thats my part to look for

If it helps your search, I've split up blockchair_bitcoin_addresses_and_balance_November_24_2022.tsv.gz into smaller files for all Legacy addresses based on their first (second) character, see http://tmp.loyce.club/Bennoko/ (scheduled to be deleted in 30 days).

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 23, 2022, 11:14:57 AM

Quote from: Bennoko on November 23, 2022, 02:08:31 AM

I downloaded but the txt file it is so big, tried some different softwares to open up its not working, cause of the size, still working on it

Large text files aren't meant to be "opened", it's meant to search. If you tell me what balances you're looking for, I'll get you a smaller file. If it has to start with "1b" (case insensitive), I'll leave out the rest.

Alright, thank you
Lets start with one of my small wallets then
There must be 2,4 or 2,6 btc inside. The adress starts with “1b” as i say.
in that adress there must be 6 or 9 transactions and that must be in 3 following consecutive days. Thats my part to look for
Thanks again

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Quote from: Bennoko on November 23, 2022, 02:08:31 AM

I downloaded but the txt file it is so big, tried some different softwares to open up its not working, cause of the size, still working on it

Large text files aren't meant to be "opened", it's meant to search. If you tell me what balances you're looking for, I'll get you a smaller file. If it has to start with "1b" (case insensitive), I'll leave out the rest.

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Quote from: nc50lc on November 22, 2022, 09:20:34 PM

Quote from: Bennoko on November 22, 2022, 01:59:42 PM

i need one more answer please, how d i find my btc adress that i know the amount inside and i know nearly the dates that i made the transactions, is there a filter to show in blocks, example created 2010 to 2012 wallets including 10btcs.

Guessing can be unreliable since the 10BTC+ in your wallet can be in multiple addresses
and there's no way to link them with each other specially if you haven't reused any of the address.

It may be possible if you've only received the bitcoins whole - in one transaction.

BTW, "wallet" is not "address":

Wallet is your Electrum client.
Address is what you're using to send/received bitcoins to your wallet.

There is only one adress i used, in receive tab never click on to create one more, am very sure about it and it was starting with “1b….” letters. And always used same adress.

Quote from: PawGo on November 22, 2022, 02:03:54 PM

Quote from: Bennoko on November 22, 2022, 01:59:42 PM

Hello again

i need one more answer please, how d i find my btc adress that i know the amount inside and i know nearly the dates that i made the transactions, is there a filter to show in blocks, example created 2010 to 2012 wallets including 10btcs.
Anyone d share a link please ill be appreciated
Thanks

You may download the list of all addresses (http://alladdresses.loyce.club/) sorted by date and then you may check each address in block explorer (like https://blockchair.com/) to find +- the range of addresses.
Then you may compare that list with list of addresses sorted by balance (http://addresses.loyce.club/) where you may find addresses which holds 10btc (1000000000 sats). Comparing both lines will give you the answer.

I downloaded but the txt file it is so big, tried some different softwares to open up its not working, cause of the size, still working on it

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

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Quote from: Bennoko on November 22, 2022, 01:59:42 PM

i need one more answer please, how d i find my btc adress that i know the amount inside and i know nearly the dates that i made the transactions, is there a filter to show in blocks, example created 2010 to 2012 wallets including 10btcs.

Guessing can be unreliable since the 10BTC+ in your wallet can be in multiple addresses
and there's no way to link them with each other specially if you haven't reused any of the address.

It may be possible if you've only received the bitcoins whole - in one transaction.

BTW, "wallet" is not "address":

Wallet is your Electrum client.
Address is what you're using to send/received bitcoins to your wallet.

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Quote from: Bennoko on November 22, 2022, 01:59:42 PM

i need one more answer please, how d i find my btc adress that i know the amount inside and i know nearly the dates that i made the transactions, is there a filter to show in blocks, example created 2010 to 2012 wallets including 10btcs.
Anyone d share a link please ill be appreciated

One direction, as already said, would be the list of addresses with balance shared by LoyceV: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-all-bitcoin-addresses-with-a-balance-5254914 or http://addresses.loyce.club/

Another direction would be the blockchain-as-database thingy, I don't know how good it is, you can find it at https://www.dolthub.com/repositories/web3/bitcoin
There you can make queries like (output_value is also in satoshis)

Code:

SELECT *
FROM `transactions`
where output_value > 999999999 and output_value < 1010000000
and is_coinbase = 0
LIMIT 100;

and then look up the transactions, maybe on a block explorer. I am "newbie" with that platform too, I only had it bookmarked some time ago. Keep in mind that you may need some SQL knowledge and also the queries must be very quick. You can play with the block numbers to approximate the time range for your desired tx.

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Quote from: Bennoko on November 22, 2022, 01:59:42 PM

Hello again

i need one more answer please, how d i find my btc adress that i know the amount inside and i know nearly the dates that i made the transactions, is there a filter to show in blocks, example created 2010 to 2012 wallets including 10btcs.
Anyone d share a link please ill be appreciated
Thanks

You may download the list of all addresses (http://alladdresses.loyce.club/) sorted by date and then you may check each address in block explorer (like https://blockchair.com/) to find +- the range of addresses.
Then you may compare that list with list of addresses sorted by balance (http://addresses.loyce.club/) where you may find addresses which holds 10btc (1000000000 sats). Comparing both lines will give you the answer.

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Hello again

i need one more answer please, how d i find my btc adress that i know the amount inside and i know nearly the dates that i made the transactions, is there a filter to show in blocks, example created 2010 to 2012 wallets including 10btcs.
Anyone d share a link please ill be appreciated
Thanks

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Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 04:53:33 AM

Hello guys, i want to ask to old people who follows bitcoin since the beginning or anyone which has a knowledge about.
What kind of desktop wallets re using in that time? What were the wallet names for windows? With the 12 mnemonic seeds

As this is board for Electrum - yes, long time ago there was something like that, Electrum 1, with their implementation of seed, 12 words, their dictionary. And their own method of calcution seed<->entropy and derivation path (addresses).

What is interesting, I did some tests in the past and it prooved that now every combination of words is "valid" - there is no checkum to say if seed is correct or not, but the way how they calculate seed excludes some combinations of words.

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Quote from: Bennoko on August 23, 2022, 04:32:47 PM

:)trying to steal peoples money thats not a kind of business for me, i told all the details i remember, there is no more secure than having private key or seeds in 2010-2012, so u cant hide the funds i think. I ve one last hhd drive that i didnt recover the history yet and somewhere i put, hidden somewhere in my house, i cant find it, how pity, that cracks me up, its last of my hope, and main hdd (all the transactions i did) is next to me. its breakdown for a long time, there re some lil scratches on the plate disks it d work on carefully hands but i trust noone, how great

What recovery programs will you use? How could you scratch the inside of the disc? Did you open it?

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:)trying to steal peoples money thats not a kind of business for me, i told all the details i remember, there is no more secure than having private key or seeds in 2010-2012, so u cant hide the funds i think. I ve one last hhd drive that i didnt recover the history yet and somewhere i put, hidden somewhere in my house, i cant find it, how pity, that cracks me up, its last of my hope, and main hdd (all the transactions i did) is next to me. its breakdown for a long time, there re some lil scratches on the plate disks it d work on carefully hands but i trust noone, how great

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Quote from: 16xypjnxlrew on August 21, 2022, 07:12:16 PM

And even if my photos and screenshots secretly go to some cloud can't be checked by a person, but some robot does them

A real person might not be interested in checking your data due to millions of other files that may or may not have greater priority. When the Coinomi wallet incident happened a few years ago, it turned out that Coinomi was sending seed phrases from their desktop users to Google services for spellchecking. That data was also supposed to be checked by a bot or automatic service. Despite that, a significant sum of money was lost and someone somewhere got hold of the unencrypted seed phrase. A bot couldn't do that, but a person having access to the bot's data could.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 21, 2022, 03:25:31 AM

What's your point? That it's OK to keep seeds, private keys, and other sensitive information in the cloud because a married couple somewhere didn't have theirs hacked/stolen/lost? You can drive your car 100 miles/hour every day without a seatbelt and never have an accident if you are lucky. But you can also crash and die the first time you do it. You can smoke for 50 years and live a long life and die an old man at 85, or you can get cancer and die at 30. You don't use those examples to cheat on security and your safety. The goal should be to follow proper procedures to lower the chances of bad things happening to you, no matter if it's related to your personal health or your financials.

Why did you cut out my phrase from the context? In my post, it was about the fact that I don't believe that Android could send my photos and screenshots to some cloud for checking, because I have turned off the synchronization with Google Drive. And even if my photos and screenshots secretly go to some cloud can't be checked by a person, but some robot does them

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Quote from: 16xypjnxlrew on August 19, 2022, 01:53:15 PM

I read an article that a married couple who stole bitcoins worth several million-billion dollars kept a private key in the cloud and nothing happened to it.

What's your point? That it's OK to keep seeds, private keys, and other sensitive information in the cloud because a married couple somewhere didn't have theirs hacked/stolen/lost? You can drive your car 100 miles/hour every day without a seatbelt and never have an accident if you are lucky. But you can also crash and die the first time you do it. You can smoke for 50 years and live a long life and die an old man at 85, or you can get cancer and die at 30. You don't use those examples to cheat on security and your safety. The goal should be to follow proper procedures to lower the chances of bad things happening to you, no matter if it's related to your personal health or your financials.

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Guys, Electrum was mentioned in November 10, 2011 for the very first time in this forum, it can't have been an Electrum wallet. There weren't neither seeds nor HD wallets back then. If it was a wallet funded prior 2011, it must have been using Satoshi's Bitcoin-QT.

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hello can you start again from the beginning? do you remember having an electrum wallet in 2010?
the seeds you have are in v1?
but the seeds you have open an empty wallet?

Yes, all u say is exactly correct, i do remember i had some wallets around 2010 probably end of 2010. I thought its 2009 but no, long time i ve been thinking it must be q4 of 2010. So whatever we talked about that in this forum some months ago. U can examine the details. nc50lc shared the link in first page

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Quote from: Abdussamad on August 19, 2022, 03:13:49 PM

If yes then you could have a blockchain.info legacy wallet. This is a non-hd wallet and the mnemonic is used as a password reminder.

As far as I know, seed phrases generated by blockchain.info wallet from that list contains 16-20 words.
As OP's seed phrase includes 12 words, I don't think it can be generated by blockchain.info wallet.

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are the words in the mnemonic in this list too:

https://github.com/blockchain/unused-My-Wallet/blob/master/mnemonic_words_v3.html

If yes then you could have a blockchain.info legacy wallet. This is a non-hd wallet and the mnemonic is used as a password reminder. You will need to enter the mnemonic on this page here to get the password:

https://blockchain.info/wallet/forgot-password

You will also need the wallet UUID which is a long hexadecimal number. You can find that by searching your email archives for emails from blockchain.info. You can then login here:

https://login.blockchain.com/#/login?product=wallet

If you can't find the UUID try using an email address instead.

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Quote from: Cricktor on August 19, 2022, 01:39:22 PM

It doesn't make any sense to delete the wallet as 1) you may remember your password suddenly (human memory is sometimes like that),
2) if your wallet password wasn't too complex it might be possible to crack it, especially if you remember parts of it (there are lots of tools for that, hashcat is one of them)
3) it's almost always a mistake to not write down a freshly invented password, even if you only tweaked your personal favorite password somehow for your wallet (or whatever password creation procedures you use; humans are usually terribly bad to create good passwords)

Did you make a screenshot of your 12 mnemonic words of your Trust wallet, a digital copy of it on a internet connected mobile device?
Terribly wrong procedure and good look with the security of your wallet in the future. Oh, don't cry later should it get suddenly emptied after you put some funds into your mobile Trust wallet. (If you made a screenshot it likely got already distributed to some cloud services who do unknown picture screening by their so-called picture recognition tools to identify picture content, tag pictures, you name it...

The wallet was deleted in 2019 and there is no way to restore it! Even on Android sends? But they are checked by a robot, not a person? I read an article that a married couple who stole bitcoins worth several million-billion dollars kept a private key in the cloud and nothing happened to it

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Quote from: 16xypjnxlrew on August 19, 2022, 12:08:57 PM

When I set a password on my Bitcoin Core and forgot it, I tried to remember it for several hours, but then I gave up and deleted this wallet, ...

It doesn't make any sense to delete the wallet as 1) you may remember your password suddenly (human memory is sometimes like that),
2) if your wallet password wasn't too complex it might be possible to crack it, especially if you remember parts of it (there are lots of tools for that, hashcat is one of them)
3) it's almost always a mistake to not write down a freshly invented password, even if you only tweaked your personal favorite password somehow for your wallet (or whatever password creation procedures you use; humans are usually terribly bad to create good passwords)

Quote from: 16xypjnxlrew on August 19, 2022, 12:08:57 PM

... then installed a mobile Trust Wallet that gives more functionality. And I screened 12 words and now my wallet is the most secure, although it is empty Cry

Did you make a screenshot of your 12 mnemonic words of your Trust wallet, a digital copy of it on a internet connected mobile device?
Terribly wrong procedure and good look with the security of your wallet in the future. Oh, don't cry later should it get suddenly emptied after you put some funds into your mobile Trust wallet. (If you made a screenshot it likely got already distributed to some cloud services who do unknown picture screening by their so-called picture recognition tools to identify picture content, tag pictures, you name it...

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Did you have a lot of bitcoins in your wallet? Are you sure you didn't have a dream? When I set a password on my Bitcoin Core and forgot it, I tried to remember it for several hours, but then I gave up and deleted this wallet, then installed a mobile Trust Wallet that gives more functionality. And I screened 12 words and now my wallet is the most secure, although it is empty Cry

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No there is not, If you write your solution proposal long, we will not be occupying the page and forum.

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Yes it cant be armory, i ve 12 words, fits with v1 electrum wordlist

Newbie You ve solution, would u explain how?

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on August 18, 2022, 04:01:15 PM

If you were extracting individual private keys, that might have been the wallet you used. That could explain why your seed phrase doesn't restore anything when restored in Electrum. Armory does use seed phrases, but they're not Bip39 compatible.

Armory gives you 18 sets of meaningless four-letter words which is called root key.
Given that OP has a seed phrase including 12 words, it can't be generated by Armory.

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hello have you tried armony wallet?

Is that a typo? Do you mean Armory Wallet?

Quote from: Bennoko on August 18, 2022, 02:27:03 AM

No never heard of it, i look for desktop wallets around 2011

I think he means Armory Wallet which was first released in early 2012. If you were extracting individual private keys, that might have been the wallet you used. That could explain why your seed phrase doesn't restore anything when restored in Electrum. Armory does use seed phrases, but they're not Bip39 compatible.

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Quote from: Bennoko on August 18, 2022, 02:27:03 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

hello have you tried armony wallet?

No never heard of it, i look for desktop wallets around 2011

a version of electrum was released in beta version in 2010 then it was finalized in 2011

Source? My wallet allows me to copy the private key with one click on btc adress thats I remember exactly
Does beta version do that? Do u know?

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hello have you tried armony wallet?

No never heard of it, i look for desktop wallets around 2011

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Quote from: Bennoko on August 16, 2022, 08:17:31 AM

Any empty wallet would erase the transactions in history if its not in use? Empty no funds untouched wallet? Like 10 years? Or transactions must shown up all the in the wallet whenever u open?

Transactions are recorded and stay in the blockchain forever.
If you don't see any transaction, it means that the wallet you opened has been never used.

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Quote from: bitmover on August 15, 2022, 05:42:55 AM

Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 04:53:33 AM

Hello guys, i want to ask to old people who follows bitcoin since the beginning or anyone which has a knowledge about.
What kind of desktop wallets re using in that time? What were the wallet names for windows? With the 12 mnemonic seeds

Thank you

12 words seeds only began in 2013 in bip 39 standard
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0039

This isn't true. Very early version of Electrum (0.X) on 2011 already generate 12 words by default. I made a post about it few months ago at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58942538. But OP should already know about it.

Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 10:54:44 AM

What am i doing wrong

You misremember detail of how you manage your Bitcoin.

Any empty wallet would erase the transactions in history if its not in use? Empty no funds untouched wallet? Like 10 years? Or transactions must shown up all the in the wallet whenever u open?

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Quote from: nc50lc on August 15, 2022, 10:57:45 PM

For reference, OP already tried various old versions of Electrum before the compatibility-breaking updates and failed to restore the correct wallet.
Here is his old thread: Trying to restore my wallet from 2009 or earlier

Thank u for the info bro u tried to help me a lot

At the end of my searches and tries, am gonna think there is invalid seed that i dont know the reason or my electrum modified with someone else but i do remember i exactly downloaded from ecdsa. However did anybody rescue any bitcoin with btcrecover especially v1 electrum?

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For reference, OP already tried various old versions of Electrum before the compatibility-breaking updates and failed to restore the correct wallet.
Here is his old thread: Trying to restore my wallet from 2009 or earlier

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Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 01:07:37 PM

No, there must be something inside, at least the wallet has to show the transactions.

Last time i ve reached my wallet like 2012 summer, the pop up message like “update the electrum copy the private keys” its even showing what i ve n all transactions, so i left it as it is

I just wanna be sure if its electrum or
If Anybody see the topic and used to use electrum 2010 to 2012, in console tab its showing donators how much they donate the server n with their names, does remember this thing please light me up

It doesn't matter what software was used to create the seed in the past. If it's a valid seed, then you should be able to restore your wallets. As I recall, Electrum was in development as early as 2011, but the first release was in 2013. The most widely used wallet during the time you're referring to was bitcoin core.

Have you tried to restore the seed in the current version of Electrum?

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Usually the first things that are shown in the Electrum console tab is the text banner response from the Electrum server to which your Electrum wallet connects. That might include some details you remember, usually a donation public address and maybe as motivation attempt what amounts have been donated by others. And whatever the Electrum server owner deems fit to let his peers know about.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 15, 2022, 11:07:47 AM

Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 10:54:44 AM

Bitcoin qt is not working with seeds i think in that time.

Right. Even now, bitcoin core doesn't support seed phrase.

Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 10:54:44 AM

All of my attentions re on electrum somehow.

If all words exist in the old electrum word list, there's a big probability that the wallet has been generated by electrum.
Maybe, the wallet hasn't been funded at all and that's simply why you don't see any balance.

No, there must be something inside, at least the wallet has to show the transactions.

Last time i ve reached my wallet like 2012 summer, the pop up message like “update the electrum copy the private keys” its even showing what i ve n all transactions, so i left it as it is

I just wanna be sure if its electrum or
If Anybody see the topic and used to use electrum 2010 to 2012, in console tab its showing donators how much they donate the server n with their names, does remember this thing please light me up

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Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 10:54:44 AM

Bitcoin qt is not working with seeds i think in that time.

Right. Even now, bitcoin core doesn't support seed phrase.

Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 10:54:44 AM

All of my attentions re on electrum somehow.

If all words exist in the old electrum word list, there's a big probability that the wallet has been generated by electrum.
Maybe, the wallet hasn't been funded at all and that's simply why you don't see any balance.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on August 15, 2022, 10:31:18 AM

The first bitcoin wallet software was Bitcoin-QT, which was a Bitcoin client as well. You can still download and run the very first binaries: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/v01-68121. In 2011, MultiBit was launched, which was very popular at that time. Then, Electrum which probably one of the most used. Later, in 2012, Armory.

You should move this to the Wallet Software board.

Looking for a wallet with 12 words type around 2011
Bitcoin qt is not working with seeds i think in that time. i dont think its multibit also. All of my attentions re on electrum somehow. ecsda.electrum i also remember with a black page. What am i doing wrong

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The first bitcoin wallet software was Bitcoin-QT, which was a Bitcoin client as well. You can still download and run the very first binaries: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/v01-68121. In 2011, MultiBit was launched, which was very popular at that time. Then, Electrum which is probably one of the most used. Later, in 2012, Armory.

You should move this to the Wallet Software board.

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I also remember in console tab, there re showing the people with names and how much donations they sent the server. Does anybody remember that? is that electrum are we sure?

i tried my seeds from all versions which is in electrum deposit. Also tried with debian 10 before 0.40 versions

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I got to know about Bitcoin somewhere around 2011 and remember Bitcoin-Qt only as wallet of choise. Don't remember if it was called already Bitcoin Core in 2011. I was not too happy about the need to have only a file backup of your wallet and you had to be careful to always have a backup of the most recent version of your wallet, as there was the possibility to loose keys and funds when your most recent backup was outdated and your last copy of your wallet. (Not going into too much detail why.)

I don't remember when I first heard about Armory which to my knowledge first implemented some sort of deterministic key derivation (not compatible to todays HD wallet derivation schemes). Early Armory didn't use normal words, though.

Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 09:56:50 AM

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Could be something with derivation path (but I wouldn't assume this to be a topic in those early years)?

Which software version did you use to check your old mnemonic words?

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Yes 12 different words, no chance to be before 2012?i deeply remember it must be earlier 2011, cause bitcoin was around 0.2dolars something and it was showing total funds below. My seeds exactly fits the old electrum mnemonic v1 wordlist, its also says old type but i can not see any transactions and no balance

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Quote from: khaled0111 on August 15, 2022, 09:27:45 AM

If you have a 12 word seed then your wallet certainly can't be older than 2012.

Not quite true.
Take a look at the topic created by ThomasV in November, 2011.
In that time, electrum was using a 12 word seed. That seed was created using a different algorithm from a word list containing 1626 words.

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I believe it's safe to assume that the most used wallet back in 2010-2011 was bitcoin core and the name of the software was bitcoin-qt, if am not wrong!
However, HD wallets and bip32 was introduced in 2012. So if you are certain your wallet is older than that then it should be in the form of private keys or a file usually named wallet with no extension.
If you have a 12 word seed then your wallet certainly can't be older than 2012. Try to import it into Electrum or a wallet that supports bip39 standard and see if it works.

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Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 08:17:33 AM

bluewallet was exist in 2011?

No.

Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 08:17:33 AM

Am talking about the past, what wallets people were using btw end of 2010 or q1 2011.

One type of wallets people were using that time was paper wallet. It was a combination of an address an a private key written on a paper.
The other wallet I know people could use that time was bitcoin core.

Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 08:17:33 AM

I ve seeds from the past and I remember its electrum but couldn’t get it work with electrum

If I'm not wrong, in the very old versions of electrum, there was a seed phrase which was created using a different algorithm and a different word list.

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bluewallet was exist in 2011? Am talking about the past, what wallets people were using btw end of 2010 or q1 2011.
I ve seeds from the past and I remember its electrum but couldn’t get it work with electrum

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It can be 12, 15, 18 or 24 words, but 12 and 24-word BIP39 wallets are the most common.

For bitcoin, I prefer Electrum, it has its own own seed phrase differently, you can import BIP39 seed phrase on Electrum, but you can not import Electrum wallet seed phrase on BIP39 wallets, except Bluewallet. Electrum support lightning payment.

I like Bluewallet also, newbies can use it for lightning payment and support BIP39 and Electrum.

Never reveal your seed phrase to anyone, anyone that knows it can spend you coin.

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Quote from: Bennoko on August 15, 2022, 04:53:33 AM

Hello guys, i want to ask to old people who follows bitcoin since the beginning or anyone which has a knowledge about.
What kind of desktop wallets re using in that time? What were the wallet names for windows? With the 12 mnemonic seeds

Thank you

12 words seeds only began in 2013 in bip 39 standard
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0039

One of the oldest and safest wallets is electrum, which is compatible with mnemonic seeds.

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Hello guys, i want to ask to old people who follows bitcoin since the beginning or anyone which has a knowledge about.
What kind of desktop wallets re using in that time? What were the wallet names for windows? With the 12 mnemonic seeds

Thank you

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