[Question] In Regards to using translators on local boards

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Quote from: Churchillvv on April 20, 2024, 12:11:30 PM

Perhaps I know using translators to comment on other local boards is frowned upon or is prohibited but does it also prohibited to use translators to know the reason why one is mentioned in other local boards?

Your sincere response will be appreciated. Thanks!

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@OP, This is really a laughable question, because how can anyone be even able to notice that you translated a topic to read the content? There is a 0% possibility for moderators to know who and who did not translate a thread just to read the content; it's when you publish a post with a translator that it can quickly be detected, and like you said, it's frowned upon.

I have also been mentioned in some local board which I don't make comments on, but i translated to English for me to be able to read that topic.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on April 20, 2024, 12:23:51 PM

No one will know who translates what post to what language. How can mods moderate what they cannot check?

I think it’s pretty obvious to members of local when someone uses a translator to make posts. Not going to go into details but there are certain words that give it away that this person is using a translator.

Quote from: Upgrade00 on April 20, 2024, 12:23:51 PM

Commenting with a translator falls under a grey area. I've seen it done with no repercussions and I've seen users punished for it. The distinction I could make was one was using it to fill their quota for campaigns.

It’s indeed a gray area. I guess if the members of the local board do not mind then it’s not a problem. If you see a user exploiting your local board just to fulfill signature quota, you should definitely report them.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on April 20, 2024, 12:11:30 PM

Can one use a translator to grasp what is being discussed in a thread where you where quoted or mentioned?

I don’t know if there is any rule against this in existence but, i don’t tend to see anything wrong with having to use translators to understand what is been discussed in a language that isn’t of your local. At least, it gives you an eye opener to your defense and perhaps when your quoted out of context, you could voice in on it.

Quote from: Rikafip on April 20, 2024, 03:21:22 PM

Of course you can. After all, how can someone even know whether you are using translation tool?

I think this is noticeable but, not concretely. Some of the means to this is the fact that, there would be some ways in which certain sentences are spoken between locals in which, a word, verb or something in the language is placed ahead of the other and a translator might not understand it that way. It could be seen for some typos but, this is one means to note something off in spoken languages, just a general view.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on April 20, 2024, 12:11:30 PM

Can one use a translator to grasp what is being discussed in a thread where you where quoted or mentioned?

Of course you can. After all, how can someone even know whether you are using translation tool?

Quote from: Churchillvv on April 20, 2024, 12:11:30 PM

Perhaps I know using translators to comment on other local boards is frowned upon or is prohibited

It really depends on each local board stance, and the way you are using it. If for example you are constantly active in a local board of the lannguage you do not understand with the help of translation tool, you can expect to have issues. But if you are only ocassionaly leaving a comment or two (usually after being mentioned), I don't think that you will have any issues. I personally visit other local boards from time to time, and never had any issues.

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You can find the forum rules in the Meta section https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
The rule about automated transaltion tool is the rule number 27. And it only prohibits to post translated content, not to use this kind of tools for deciphering foreign languages. So what you've done is plainly allowed by forum rules but it will be challenging to reply to those posts without such tool now.

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27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

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I don't think there is any rule for anyone to not use a translator to understand what someone is writing on a local board that isn't their native language board, it's not like you are doing something wrong, everyone has the right to read what is written publicly in the forum, local boards are open to everyone to visit and read and observe if they want to, you are not supposed to participate using a translator since it isn't your local board, but there are exceptions to that as well in my opinion but only if it's very important.

@Xal0lex is one of the moderators in our local thread, Pakistan, and he often posts there when he needs to, and when he does that, he writes the post in English first, and then write its translation in Urdu, the native language of the board, right below his message. Look at this example. Since it's not his native language, he probably uses a translator to do that.

So it's not like you are going to get banned or anything for doing that, but whether it's considered good or bad depends on what your intentions are.

P.S.: Don't take that example too seriously, it was just for reference. He is a moderator and he has to monitor the board and has obligations, and one shouldn't take that as an example to misuse this thing.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on April 20, 2024, 12:11:30 PM

Hence, I will love to know the rules that are related to this. Can one use a translator to grasp what is being discussed in a thread where you where quoted or mentioned? Perhaps I know using translators to comment on other local boards is frowned upon or is prohibited but does it also prohibited to use translators to know the reason why one is mentioned in other local boards?

Actually sometimes they quoted some users for reference only thats why it show up sometimes on other local board. Depends on the purpose I guess maybe if you wanna check what they discuss its fine or if you wanna reply too just to say something since you mentioned nothing wrongs with that. Like theres a user who let his work be translated and he visited the local thread and uses the local language to comment on the thread I think it was fine as his motive is to give credit and thanks to someone who did a translation on his post. Maybe if depends on the purpose of the one will use translator if its for acknowledgement and thank you its fine or important message need to address on local board.

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Firstly Op , there is no rule here on Bitcointalk that says you should not translate a post with any translation service for the purpose or reading or getting information. There is only an issue where you use a translator like Google translate to translate a post and then repost it. And there are many reasons why it s against the forum translation rule one of them is because such a content would be regarded as plagiarism. Secondly a translator program can't get the full information as it is written in the original text like a human would.

I sometimes visit other local boards like German and Russian to read certain nice and informative discussions. However I can't post there since I can't speak either of the languages and I also can't use translators since it's against forum rules.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on April 20, 2024, 12:11:30 PM

Hence, I will love to know the rules that are related to this. Can one use a translator to grasp what is being discussed in a thread where you where quoted or mentioned? Perhaps I know using translators to comment on other local boards is frowned upon or is prohibited but does it also prohibited to use translators to know the reason why one is mentioned in other local boards?

Your sincere response will be appreciated. Thanks!

I have had similar experiences with mentions on the local boards of other nationalities. From experience its turns out that these mentions are just translation from an English board.

For example if a data is being collected and reported of active posters in the English board and you have happen to be one of the active posters then when it is mentioned in a local board it's just a translation from what was reported in the English board to the local board.

Using a translator software to understand what is written in the local board and making a reply if necessary using a translator software is not a breaking a rule as long as you state clearly that you are not a member of the local board and you used a translator for that.

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No one will know who translates what post to what language. How can mods moderate what they cannot check? You are free to try to understand what you wish

Commenting with a translator falls under a grey area. I've seen it done with no repercussions and I've seen users punished for it. The distinction I could make was one was using it to fill their quota for campaigns.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on April 20, 2024, 12:11:30 PM

Perhaps in recent times now I have been receiving a few of notifications from almost three (3) different local boards that I don't visit and I don't understand the languages of this local boards.

I have searched on topics that relates to this but I'm not convinced with the replies I saw in one of the threads that relates to this so I decided to make this here.

Hence, I will love to know the rules that are related to this. Can one use a translator to grasp what is being discussed in a thread where you where quoted or mentioned? Perhaps I know using translators to comment on other local boards is frowned upon or is prohibited but does it also prohibited to use translators to know the reason why one is mentioned in other local boards?

Your sincere response will be appreciated. Thanks!

Note: This thread will be locked as soon as I have received enough response as desired.

See if you want to translate any post or any important post in your own native language then you should avoid google translate. Translating any post using Google Translate is considered a crime.

Currently many local boards are translating important posts which are the main posts in English on this forum. Those who translate those important posts but instead of using Google translate, they translate each word according to the meaning of their own language in that country.

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You can freely use a translator to read through a thread which your name has been mentioned; if it's necessary to reply to that thread, you can do that in English if it's not against the local board rules. One thing I understand about the frown of using a translator to make a comment on the local board is that the result is not always accurate and can also mislead the general public about your origin.

One thread my name has been mentioned on in the past on one of the local boards, and I don’t understand their write-up was by a user named Coins-1, if I could remember correctly, which was about merit and rank up.

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It's not worth creating a thread as you already know the answer to your question mate. You can use translator tools to read other languages and local boards you are not familiar to. But not allowed to use translator tools to reply or comment on a local board where you clearly don't speak their language or learnt it as a second language. So if you are mentioned in a Localboard where you don't speak you can translate to just so you read what information was passed.

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Perhaps in recent times now I have been receiving a few of notifications from almost three (3) different local boards that I don't visit and I don't understand the languages of this local boards.

I have searched on topics that relates to this but I'm not convinced with the replies I saw in one of the threads that relates to this so I decided to make this here.

Hence, I will love to know the rules that are related to this. Can one use a translator to grasp what is being discussed in a thread where you where quoted or mentioned? Perhaps I know using translators to comment on other local boards is frowned upon or is prohibited but does it also prohibited to use translators to know the reason why one is mentioned in other local boards?

Your sincere response will be appreciated. Thanks!

Note: This thread will be locked as soon as I have received enough response as desired.

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