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August 30, 2014, 05:57:56 AM
#38
every thing works fine fine with me, i have not experienced such a thing before
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #3h9zdNHCbtbZmSPu

Add this to all the other Moriarty sock puppet accounts he uses to steal your money.

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August 30, 2014, 05:45:27 AM
#37
every thing works fine fine with me, i have not experienced such a thing before
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #3h9zdNHCbtbZmSPu
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August 29, 2014, 11:51:17 PM
#36
Kisrap is Moriarty

Finkle is Einhorn and Einhorn is Finkle!

Anybody else find it pathetic that Moriarty tries to make a living by going around and buying other peoples accounts and then pushes his own scam sites in his ATTEMPTS TO STEAL FROM YOU?

http://Http://antilyze.com
http://Http://badbitcoin.org

Don't use bitwebscamming, scamlaunder, coinscam, scamchimp, scamspeculate or plasticscam.

Moriarty is a loser and his time is up.
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August 27, 2014, 11:50:34 AM
#35
it works fine for me, and i love it
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May 12, 2014, 01:56:53 PM
#34

That account with the 1btc deposited was presented as the ops deposit address but in fact was perhaps set up to skim deposits off of say 5 new members out of thousands on the side because look at all those little ones which after the 1btc deposit totaled 3BTC and was immediately withdrawan.

Now say he just made 3 BTC, whats to say you haven't done it on 25/50 sites thats 75btc for example.

This is kinda my conclusion to.
Hopefully i removed the scam accusation towards me when i took that bloody BTC and gave it away to charity.
I honestly dont care about that BTC, it was more an principle about not feeling scammed, and get an confirmation as to what went on.

Btw im appearantly still able to log into the members section at bitplastic, and can confirm that the depositadress still is
1MwNHaJ5trhjMP1E5z3rRawrh22sCaQyoX, So it surely isnt changing like it did in that start period when i talked to the techie.
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May 12, 2014, 03:23:19 AM
#33
This is very interesting read lol trying to figure out who is the frauder because either the op owns that 17 account and planned out this whole attack on bitplastic with hopes of exactly this outcome of 1BTC sent bank for ending this thread.
-supporting ideas to this statement being the 17E account's coinbox.me history (100% a personal account) along with previous deposits make it look like it was a set up but,,,

I don't think the OP is guilty, a scammer but just got scammed by this site. Why?

Look at the support messages, the support agents ask for the same damn things 6 times either that or state THERS NO BTC IN THIS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ADDRESS SO??? which completely disregards all the detailed information OP provided several times.

-the simple fact of how this site owner states all these 50 sites he owns, neither of which I've heard of and then says why would I want 1BTC? Well nobody should talk like "1 BTC IS NOTHING!@!" especially when some people have never even had a fulll btc.

But anyways this is what I think happened and bitplastic is now a scam to me so.

That account with the 1btc deposited was presented as the ops deposit address but in fact was perhaps set up to skim deposits off of say 5 new members out of thousands on the side because look at all those little ones which after the 1btc deposit totaled 3BTC and was immediately withdrawan.

Now say he just made 3 BTC, whats to say you haven't done it on 25/50 sites thats 75btc for example.

And you are admin of this site don't you have detailed logs, proof, answers to questions like:

1) DO THE DEPOSIT ADDYS CHANGE FREQUENTLY LIKE A LOT OF SITES WELL GAMBLING SITES AND LOCALBITCOINS BUT STILLL ALLOW YOU TO USE ANYONE? I DON'T THINK A VAULT LIKE THAT WOULD SO.

ANSWER THE REASON TO WHY HIS DEPOSIT ADDY CHANGED MULTIPLE TIMES?

2) I THINK YOU JusT GOT CAUGHT & NOW TRYING TO SAVE YOUR SITES REPUTATION BEING NEW & POTENTIALLY HUGE SCAM OR LEGIT PROFITS SO YOUR PAYING OUT OF POCKET BUT WHY NOT JUST ANSWER HIS EMAILS THE FIRST WEEK AND NOT ACT STUPID?

Anyways, dont use this bs for debit cards

http://xapo.com

AWSOME!
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May 10, 2014, 12:24:33 PM
#32

To be fair i read through all those links, and basiclly its two cases that keeps beeing mentioned over and over.

1. an customer is displeased that the card didnt match the picture as noted on the webpage (it still works though...), and that it got sent in an flimsy envolope. Which isnt that big of a deal since its worth zero until you actually load it. If the envolope arrives tempered with or something, you dont use it. Simple fix. As to the graphical layout, they should maybe change the bitplastic site picture Smiley

2. Theres a guy that transfered in 1BTC, and when transfering out he did not get his funds. Due to appearently an exploit changing up the withdraw address (kinda makes me think about the ongoing change on my deposit address). You could argue who are going to be the risktaker when you send your funds to third parties, Security truly is an issue in this crypto world. Just look at the exchanges, Poloniex got hacked for the second time just recently. MTGOX shut down completely..., How they deal with it is the most important factor. Just saying.


Im not trying to excuse or defent moriartybitcoin in any way. Just trying to explain that when it comes to crypto, which as an digital currency with most of the users beeing an part of the "information stream". Its really easy that one feather becomes an entire chicken farm

In my case i got it resolved, though i would have prefered it beeing done in an more forthcoming and kinder tone.

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May 08, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
#30
returned to you and how many people are ripped from him?!

Dont know and im not to speculate in that matter, i can at least say that i got my funds back (except from the cost of the now worthless plastic card).
So thats at least one less guy that feels "ripped off"  Smiley

Hope if there are any other out there with similar issue, that they also are able to get it resolved at the end.
Hopefully without them feeling their username has been tainted by accusations...
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May 08, 2014, 11:25:56 AM
#29
returned to you and how many people are ripped from him?!
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May 08, 2014, 10:16:19 AM
#28
'I'm sure many users (including me) would have loved to use your bitplastic service but when you deal with user issues like this i would rather stay well away!'

99.5% of our customers are happy and satisfied.

0.05% complain about nothing, don't understand our service, or simply try to extort/blackmail us.  Unfortunately, those 0.05% scream loudly.

moriartybitcoin you SCAMMER!!! Refund Svennand his money! People are not stupid and will not use your shit!

Please moderate/delete this message.
He did repay me the 1BTC which i donated to charity due to the whole feel of it all.
BUT i no longer feel scammed, and hence have removed the scam warnings.

Whats left is basiclly an open book as to how the whole thing was handled.
As far as my concern im over with it Smiley But thanks for your support though Wink
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May 08, 2014, 10:00:55 AM
#27
'I'm sure many users (including me) would have loved to use your bitplastic service but when you deal with user issues like this i would rather stay well away!'

99.5% of our customers are happy and satisfied.

0.05% complain about nothing, don't understand our service, or simply try to extort/blackmail us.  Unfortunately, those 0.05% scream loudly.

moriartybitcoin you SCAMMER!!! Refund Svennand his money! People are not stupid and will not use your shit!
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May 08, 2014, 02:08:39 AM
#26
'I'm sure many users (including me) would have loved to use your bitplastic service but when you deal with user issues like this i would rather stay well away!'

99.5% of our customers are happy and satisfied.

0.05% complain about nothing, don't understand our service, or simply try to extort/blackmail us.  Unfortunately, those 0.05% scream loudly.

You got to stop calling people having issues with your service for for either stupid/extort/blackmail/complain about nothing.
I clearly addressed what had happened, there were no resolvement other than "bitter" payout from you to me. And calling me bad stuff.

Thats unprofessional. I gave away the payout to charity. And have seen myself finish with this, including your services.
Leaving what really happened unresolved (address kept changing during tech discussion, tech aknowledged the funds etc...).
You really cant blame me, or other people that have issues for people reading the forums and making up their mind about it, Regarding if they want to use or not use your services based on the way things got handled.

Have an nice day



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May 07, 2014, 04:09:51 PM
#25
'I'm sure many users (including me) would have loved to use your bitplastic service but when you deal with user issues like this i would rather stay well away!'

99.5% of our customers are happy and satisfied.

0.05% complain about nothing, don't understand our service, or simply try to extort/blackmail us.  Unfortunately, those 0.05% scream loudly.
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April 28, 2014, 02:58:00 AM
#24
Svennand: Yes, I checked with my techs, and I'm 95% sure you simply sent your bitcoins to the wrong deposit address.
Maybe you copied the BitPlastic address wrong? Copy and pasted another address? I don't know.  Either way, you didn't send ANY FUNDS AT ALL TO BITPLASTIC.

This is fantastic customer service!!! Saying this after you emailed a user saying your coins are safe and then saying no coins were sent.

With no reply to his emails for over two weeks, what do you expect a user to do? You do know emailing the user would have avoided all this conflict on a thread?

I'm sure many users (including me) would have loved to use your bitplastic service but when you deal with user issues like this i would rather stay well away!
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April 28, 2014, 01:16:04 AM
#23
1. I tried to contact the support get it fixed, prior to running up the hill screaming scam. But after two weeks without any resolvement and complete ignoring from the help system, i saw no other option.
2 Oh and i never meant to "threaten or blackmail you guys", after 11 days of hearing nothing from you guys (including trying to remind/bump the mail correspondance), i said
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Well i guess the whole thing is a big scam scam.
Ill start spreading the word.
Which i had allready done at that time. So there where NO "give me money or ill slander your names scenario here"
3. It still has not been addressed why they did not react/look into it that my account address keept changing, which it did even at the time period where i first contacted you guys, i would kinda expect "WHAT shit we need to investigate this" response...
4. I particularly find this quite funny...
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I confirmed that your deposit hit our wallet just fine. There is no chance the funds will be lost
How wrong can a techie be...
5. I really do not like your attituted calling me a 10year old. SCAM SCAM SCAM in large red letters were to make it visible, im 30years old btw.
6. 10000 clients and im the only one causing problems? When i created the scam warning post around the place (bitplastic's official bitcointalk/google+/facebook/twitter), i were not the only one, your walls were filled with other people shouting.
    Just checked and i see that it has been "cleaned up" though. Might have had something to do with the first email from you where you just wanted to silence me. Which i then tried to explain that i werent interessted in any blackmain scenario and that
    i would simply go around changing my posts if we got it all corrected, AT LEAST tried to figure out what has happened. Cause just blaming me beeing stupid and have transfered to wrong address, is just a cheap way of handling it. What are the odds that the address i "misstransfered to"  
    also seem to be an scamming address which "launder" its income...
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I can only conclude that this user 'svennand' is either:
             A. Unethical (intentionally blackmailing/extorting me)
             B. Stupid or Careless (sent to wrong bitcoin address by accident)
  Im not even gonna respond to this.


So you are going to banlist me from all your sites, A shame, but i honestly dont think i would have tried to use em again/in future given how unprofessional the whole experience has been.
Given that you transfered back, and i havent lost anything (dissregaring the 0.2BTC fee for the now worthless plastic), i will remove the scam warnings.

Oh and btw, that 1 BTC i got is now given away to charity, World Aid for homeless children, transaction adress: 19vfckp81LY4wnyARuqxAj2EuqSjMC4NkN  txid: 620f5416661311fb719d11c250149b8d74f5018dbae66f5adfd6d8e40bccba60-000
It was never really about the money, but figuring out who was right and what had happened. So i could feel less scammed. and hence remove the scam warnings.

Im really an nice guy once you get to know me, its a shame how this whole thing turned out. Huh
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April 27, 2014, 11:19:01 PM
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I can only conclude that this user 'svennand' is either:

A. Unethical (intentionally blackmailing/extorting me)
B. Stupid or Careless (sent to wrong bitcoin address by accident)

Either way, he wins.  I paid him his 1 btc he claims to have sent.  I would rather just pay (https://blockchain.info/address/1DikXbvQxaGz6QP6T5f5whFJ1XXt2P4Ys2) to get rid of his 'SCAM SCAM SCAM' threads (which, incidentally, sound like a 10-year old child).

I think Bitcoin website/service owners face some serious difficulties. Not only do we have to contend with serious hackers (those pesky Russians!), but we also have to deal with 'customers' like this who try to blackmail/extort us by damaging our reputation, demanding payment to retract their statements. 

From a business standpoint, the Bitcoin economy is not an easy place to make a living ...
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April 27, 2014, 11:12:19 PM
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Svennand: Yes, I checked with my techs, and I'm 95% sure you simply sent your bitcoins to the wrong deposit address.
Maybe you copied the BitPlastic address wrong? Copy and pasted another address? I don't know.  Either way, you didn't send ANY FUNDS AT ALL TO BITPLASTIC.

Nothing. Zero. Zilch.

Nevertheless, you go around on the internet screaming 'SCAM SCAM SCAM' in every single forum, every single post.  Fine.  You win.  Here's your 1 btc that you claim to have sent.

https://blockchain.info/address/1DikXbvQxaGz6QP6T5f5whFJ1XXt2P4Ys2

There is your refund.  Hope you're happy.  I don't have the mental energy to deal with your constant attacks so there you go, I paid you out of my pocket.

By the way, you're banned permanently from every site on my network and any future site we launch.  And if we catch you trying to use one of our sites, your account will be frozen permanently. So please do not try.

You are banned from:
BitPlastic.com
BitLaunder.com
BitArmored.com
CoinChimp.com
BitForum.org
etc.

You know, we have over 10,000 clients, and you are the only one to ever cause this kind of problem.  If BitPlastic was a scam, more than one person (you) would be screaming it in this thread. But no, it's just you.

And yes, we have been hacked in the past, and each time I paid clients out of my pocket.  But in this case, it wasn't hacking.  You simply sent your deposit to some unknown address.  It certainly was NOT one of ours!

Anyways, there you go, your 1btc if refunded.  Good luck.  Please don't hassle me anymore. Thank you
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April 26, 2014, 04:47:14 PM
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Yes, I think that moriartybitcoin needs to explain that email.

moriartybitcoin?
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April 26, 2014, 04:44:00 PM
#19
Thank you for helping out in this matter. Your detective work is much appriciated Smiley

I have looked over the web site at https://bitplastic.com/ and I really like the whole idea and I hope it is not a scam.

The fact that they have offered to refund the lost BTC is a good sign.

I may try the web site myself.

This is a service that (assuming it is not a scam) we could really use here in the Bitcoin community.

I could not agree more, which is why i went there and ordered me an card.
which made the dissapointment even greater when things went where they did, lets hope they figure it out.

Its even more annoying when i got the reply from them saying that everything was fine and that they had gotten the payment to the wallet, only to now say. We know nothing of this spoken address.
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From: Customer Support
Date: March 18, 2014 at 19:57

I talked to techs. They are making some security improvements to\r\nprevent hacking, and apparently the software is having trouble picking\r\nup incoming deposits. I confirmed that your deposit hit our wallet just fine. There is no chance the funds will be lost, but it might take up to 24 more hrs for\r\nyour account to be updated. I could update your account manually, but\r\nthen you would get a double-credit when the software finds the\r\ndeposit. Again, nothing to worry about, and I do apologize for the problem. We\r\nare always trying to improve security and in this case it has caused a\r\nsmall temporary bug
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April 26, 2014, 04:31:08 PM
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Thank you for helping out in this matter. Your detective work is much appriciated Smiley

I have looked over the web site at https://bitplastic.com/ and I really like the whole idea and I hope it is not a scam.

The fact that they have offered to refund the lost BTC is a good sign.

I may try the web site myself.

This is a service that (assuming it is not a scam) we could really use here in the Bitcoin community.

Signed up and got an empty address - good sign, the address that svennand sent his 1 BTC to would have show up as already used if he had checked.  I don't mean to say he should have checked as people normally do not check these little details.
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April 26, 2014, 04:24:42 PM
#17
I see the 1 btc you sent to that address. Unfortunately, that address has nothing whatsoever to do with BitPlastic. It is not, and never was, an address on our system.
Most of the coins sent to the address in question:

https://blockchain.info/address/1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ

were then sent through a mixer.

Can you please look at this transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d942288b53a0c41082425bde589f4a7fcebf0310727d725947db1b810414798a

and see if you recognize the mixing method as one of your own mixers here:  https://bitlaunder.com

Thank you for helping out in this matter. Your detective work is much appriciated Smiley
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April 26, 2014, 04:22:54 PM
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I see the 1 btc you sent to that address. Unfortunately, that address has nothing whatsoever to do with BitPlastic. It is not, and never was, an address on our system.
Most of the coins sent to the address in question:

https://blockchain.info/address/1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ

were then sent through a mixer.

Can you please look at this transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d942288b53a0c41082425bde589f4a7fcebf0310727d725947db1b810414798a

and see if you recognize the mixing method as one of your own mixers here:  https://bitlaunder.com
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April 26, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
#15
Guess bitplastic might have had an breach?
Cause 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ was the address that were on the welcoming member area
I regret not noting all the other addresses that were posted there in the upcoming hours.

If true then some of these other deposits to this same address might also be lost:

Code:
2a4f3645eed5a57c32459a533190ed6c6e664eafcd3a9999e956a40a4a62d76b  0.52748884 BTC

9664eac116d5dbb6d0ac930c539a61358deef3243ca892daee91c553b0c80045  0.25 BTC

d45feb0e86743575746cb4f7db37379826f08c1ef404358736a2dca1e23b1a8c  0.25 BTC

3e0eee289ea8e43986b517767a0e1e4cdd3b8536de522400e6d72c92e29bf9a9  0.0134 BTC

8833ac40586b1faf3276acfdc7a1575ce6a9c34187de2c9385fadef3f76fa8df  0.52748884 BTC

7d242af6d63243a4a07af5b37b1991f26675e8dcc4a6d2fc171991c2d805506a  0.03159 BTC

b99bcde623b558b8b32d9ed5cf2e4c33b7cffd6c57de3e683b245d5f0b829579  0.2614 BTC

47e2463d08d794839d5457034d5cf249e7a34744b8e367ba7b2690cced7f54c8  0.1428887 BTC

Anyone else complaining about lost BTC?

Would be interesting to know.

Forgot my bitcoin address btw: 1DikXbvQxaGz6QP6T5f5whFJ1XXt2P4Ys2

Let me assure you guys im not trying to scam anyone here.
Ive been an respected member (primary on the feathercoin forum as Admin, spent the last year helping people out there with over 1500posts, traveled to England to meet the members etc), also earlier been an part of nut2pools (one of the more respected pools).
It makes absolutely no sense in tainting my name or nut2pools for that matter for ONE freaking BTC...
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April 26, 2014, 03:54:02 PM
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Guess bitplastic might have had an breach?
Cause 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ was the address that were on the welcoming member area
I regret not noting all the other addresses that were posted there in the upcoming hours.

If true then some of these other deposits to this same address might also be lost:

Code:
2a4f3645eed5a57c32459a533190ed6c6e664eafcd3a9999e956a40a4a62d76b  0.52748884 BTC

9664eac116d5dbb6d0ac930c539a61358deef3243ca892daee91c553b0c80045  0.25 BTC

d45feb0e86743575746cb4f7db37379826f08c1ef404358736a2dca1e23b1a8c  0.25 BTC

3e0eee289ea8e43986b517767a0e1e4cdd3b8536de522400e6d72c92e29bf9a9  0.0134 BTC

8833ac40586b1faf3276acfdc7a1575ce6a9c34187de2c9385fadef3f76fa8df  0.52748884 BTC

7d242af6d63243a4a07af5b37b1991f26675e8dcc4a6d2fc171991c2d805506a  0.03159 BTC

b99bcde623b558b8b32d9ed5cf2e4c33b7cffd6c57de3e683b245d5f0b829579  0.2614 BTC

47e2463d08d794839d5457034d5cf249e7a34744b8e367ba7b2690cced7f54c8  0.1428887 BTC

Anyone else complaining about lost BTC?
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April 26, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
#13
I am not so sure I would pay for the lost 1 BTC just yet...

Interesting history here:

https://blockchain.info/address/1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ

Looks like it may be a blockchain.info wallet or another wallet that, like the blockchain.info wallet, sends it's change back to the same address.

3.004 BTC was removed from this address:

https://blockchain.info/tx/b01d528e34c2496b3d979079da61efd4b4a04501a731437bfab55036694c9b74

Then sent through a mixer of some sort here:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d942288b53a0c41082425bde589f4a7fcebf0310727d725947db1b810414798a

Then, coinbox.me just put more BTC into this address:

https://blockchain.info/tx/5f53c07933ff930bfa2a1a5b64f122c6d9b07326a784526eca61889800a22584

Whoever actually owns the address 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ

Has an interesting coinbox.me account here:  

http://coinbox.me/?a=1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ

1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ is pretty obviously a personal account, not a deposit account for a business like bitplastic, and whoever owns it took/has the missing 1 BTC.

Guess bitplastic might have had an breach?
Cause 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ was the address that were on the welcoming member area
I regret not noting all the other addresses that were posted there in the upcoming hours.
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April 26, 2014, 03:38:06 PM
#12
I see the 1 btc you sent to that address. Unfortunately, that address has nothing whatsoever to do with BitPlastic. It is not, and never was, an address on our system.

I speculate you entered the wrong Bitcoin address when you sent. People copy and paste incorrect addresses all the time. I don't know where that address came from, but it didn't come from us.  Of that I am completely certain.

I'll send you the 1btc you claim you lost just to get rid of this complaint thread which is hurting my rep.  However, I am cancelling your BitPlastic card and banning you from the network of 50+ sites that I own.

Send me your Bitcoin address where you want the 1btc sent.  I'll pay you out of pocket just to get rid of this bogus complaint.

Michael Moriarty

I felt this one comming... If your gonna ban and cancel my account/card you might as well refund the 0.2 cost for the card to...

Im 100% sure that i copied that address from the websit (regret not taking screenshot).
I also noted that the address changed several times (about 3-5 times) within 24-48 hours,
Which is why i contacted you guys since it was worrying that the address kept changing and no funds were registered even though the confirmed were above required.

I would have been more proactive with documenting the phenonemon, but given that your support said "no worries" and that they had "registered the incoming transaction", i took no further actions.

Guess you guys should check the system for hack exploits or db/wallet jibbrish.

Either way, i honestly have had enough about the whole thing.

Refund me the 1BTC (transfered funds), and 0.2BTC (for the bitplastic card you are gonna cancel),
And i'll be an happy camper, and remove the scam warnings around here.
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April 26, 2014, 03:16:35 PM
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I am not so sure I would pay for the lost 1 BTC just yet...

Interesting history here:

https://blockchain.info/address/1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ

Looks like it may be a blockchain.info wallet or another wallet that, like the blockchain.info wallet, sends it's change back to the same address.

3.004 BTC was removed from this address:

https://blockchain.info/tx/b01d528e34c2496b3d979079da61efd4b4a04501a731437bfab55036694c9b74

Then sent through a mixer of some sort here:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d942288b53a0c41082425bde589f4a7fcebf0310727d725947db1b810414798a

Then, coinbox.me just put more BTC into this address:

https://blockchain.info/tx/5f53c07933ff930bfa2a1a5b64f122c6d9b07326a784526eca61889800a22584

Whoever actually owns the address 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ

Has an interesting coinbox.me account here:  

http://coinbox.me/?a=1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ

1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ is pretty obviously a personal account, not a deposit account for a business like bitplastic, and whoever owns it took/has the missing 1 BTC.
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April 26, 2014, 03:02:58 PM
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I see the 1 btc you sent to that address. Unfortunately, that address has nothing whatsoever to do with BitPlastic. It is not, and never was, an address on our system.

I speculate you entered the wrong Bitcoin address when you sent. People copy and paste incorrect addresses all the time. I don't know where that address came from, but it didn't come from us.  Of that I am completely certain.

I'll send you the 1btc you claim you lost just to get rid of this complaint thread which is hurting my rep.  However, I am cancelling your BitPlastic card and banning you from the network of 50+ sites that I own.

Send me your Bitcoin address where you want the 1btc sent.  I'll pay you out of pocket just to get rid of this bogus complaint.

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April 26, 2014, 01:06:43 PM
#9
can you please provide the address that you sent the 1 btc to? And post it here, thanks

It was in the post.
I sent it to 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ, as told on bitplastic account page.
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can you please provide the address that you sent the 1 btc to? And post it here, thanks

He's posted the transaction details above in a previous post. You can see everything you need to there.
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April 26, 2014, 12:06:01 PM
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can you please provide the address that you sent the 1 btc to? And post it here, thanks
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Hi,

What I don't understand is that when I check your deposit address on BitPlastic I don't see anything there. I just sent 0.001 to that address and it showed up fine. So I don't understand why 1 btc wouldn't have shown up if you sent to that address?

https://blockchain.info/address/1MwNHaJ5trhjMP1E5z3rRawrh22sCaQyoX


Michael M


Well i didnt send to that specific address, as i said in support center correspondance.
The sending address on the website changed several times in that time period.

Which i addressed but were calmed down since you guys stated that you had registered the transaction and assured me that the funds were not lost.
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April 26, 2014, 02:25:02 AM
#5
I understand there are a LOT of scams in the Bitcoin world these days and the knee-jerk reaction is to scream SCAM at the top of your lungs.

Now, I have addressed this user numerous times, and I am still willing to investigate what happened.  Frankly, I am quite confused.

The user claims to have sent 1 BTC to his BitPlastic account.  But his BitPlastic deposit address shows nothing:
https://blockchain.info/address/1MwNHaJ5trhjMP1E5z3rRawrh22sCaQyoX

The 0.001 btc was a test deposit I sent to make sure his address was working, and it is.

I own 50+ bitcoin sites (BitPlastic, BitLaunder.com, BitArmored.com, CoinChimp.com, BitBing.com, BitForum.org, BitSweeps.com, BitListing.com and many, many more).  I am not in the business of ripping someone off for a measly 1 btc which would simply ruin my reputation.  It is far more profitable to run a legitimate business than a scam.

I am more than happy to post a screen-capture of this user's account as well. And I am also happy to keep investigating and I would like to address the complaint publicly, since he has made the scam accusation public.

If something has gone wrong with our service the user will be refunded. I just can't see what the problem is; it appears no funds were ever received.

Michael Moxx

Guess you are refering to me.
Like i earlier stated before editing the post, i do not go up on the hill screaming scam without reason, but when the customer service ended up just ignoring me...
And funds still gone, then i bloody hell did  Smiley

That beeing said, if we get this resolved i will go over and edit my posts.

Information from my end:

1BTC sent to the current address that was in my account at bitplastic:
Status: 2958 bekreftelser
Date: 16.03.2014 09:35
To: 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ
Debet: -1.00 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.001 BTC
Sum: -1.001 BTC
Transaction-ID: 5628c79ef5e0671b8ad804d5addab883778a3fb7104757605ed7671dc7be3633

My communication on the website support:

From: (Customer)
Date: March 18, 2014 at 14:06

Hi.\r\nI transfered 1BTC to test my new card. Transfered to 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ which was the adress noted on my page on bitplastic.\r\nTX ID: 5628c79ef5e0671b8ad804d5addab883778a3fb7104757605ed7671dc7be3633-000\r\n\r\nAccording to the web page the coins should be registered after 3 confirms.\r\nIt has now been 389 Confirms and still nothing registered in my account.\r\nI also note that the deposit address now have changed several times??\r\n\r\nPlease assist in getting this sorted as i would like to test out my new card Smiley
From: Customer Support
Date: March 18, 2014 at 19:57

I talked to techs. They are making some security improvements to\r\nprevent hacking, and apparently the software is having trouble picking\r\nup incoming deposits. I confirmed that your deposit hit our wallet just fine. There is no chance the funds will be lost, but it might take up to 24 more hrs for\r\nyour account to be updated. I could update your account manually, but\r\nthen you would get a double-credit when the software finds the\r\ndeposit. Again, nothing to worry about, and I do apologize for the problem. We\r\nare always trying to improve security and in this case it has caused a\r\nsmall temporary bug

From: (Customer)
Date: March 21, 2014 at 04:50

Been 48 hours since you said it could take up to 24 more hours.\r\nNot to mention 5days since inital transfer!
From: (Customer)
Date: March 24, 2014 at 06:15

3 More days without any bitcoin, and without any reply from you guys.
From: Customer Support
Date: March 24, 2014 at 20:28

Hi, I do not see any transfer to your card. When did you make the transfer and how much? email me at [email protected]
From: (Customer)
Date: March 27, 2014 at 04:10

Test
From: (Customer)
Date: March 27, 2014 at 04:11

Having issues responding, only get crappy stopped cause it might be an attack! When i try to post an large amount of information.\r\n\r\nYou guys confirmed the deposit earlier! but blamed technical stuff for not beeing registered on my account yet. said it would take up to 24 hours to fix this. This was over an week ago! Look at TXid in earlier communication, Since i cant post it again for some reason
From: Customer Support
Date: March 27, 2014 at 14:53

you cannot send special characters through support ticket system because we have hacking prevention in place. you can always just email [email protected]
From: (Customer)
Date: March 29, 2014 at 17:34

Ive emailed to that adress, no response. Still no funding on my account!

Email correspondanse:

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BitPlastic Support via sendgrid.me
Mar 25

to me
Hi ,

A reply has been added to the support request you submitted, which may be found below.  If needed, you may reply directly to this e-mail, and your message will be appended to the support ticket.

Date Sent:    March 24, 2014
Subject:      Still nothing!


---------- Message Contents ----------


Hi, I do not see any transfer to your card. When did you make the transfer and how much?  email me at [email protected]

-- END --

Svenn-André <[email protected]>
Mar 25

to MYH9Z7Q
You are kidding right?

Heres the last message i got from you guys:

I talked to techs. They are making some security improvements to\r\nprevent hacking, and apparently the software is having trouble picking\r\nup incoming deposits. I confirmed that your deposit hit our wallet just fine. There is no chance the funds will be lost, but it might take up to 24 more hrs for\r\nyour account to be updated. I could update your account manually, but\r\nthen you would get a double-credit when the software finds the\r\ndeposit. Again, nothing to worry about, and I do apologize for the problem. We\r\nare always trying to improve security and in this case it has caused a\r\nsmall temporary bug

It was transfered to the account through payment adress: 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ as stated on the page. TX id: 5628c79ef5e0671b8ad804d5addab883778a3fb7104757605ed7671dc7be3633-000  

You guys confirmed that you had recieved the 1BTC, but blamed technical issues with it not showing on my page, and that it would be fixed within 24 hours...  


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Mar 25

to me
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Technical details of permanent failure:
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Mar 25

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Svenn-André <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Support Reply (#MYH9Z7Q) Still nothing!
To: [email protected]


You are kidding right?

Heres the last message i got from you guys:

I talked to techs. They are making some security improvements to\r\nprevent hacking, and apparently the software is having trouble picking\r\nup incoming deposits. I confirmed that your deposit hit our wallet just fine. There is no chance the funds will be lost, but it might take up to 24 more hrs for\r\nyour account to be updated. I could update your account manually, but\r\nthen you would get a double-credit when the software finds the\r\ndeposit. Again, nothing to worry about, and I do apologize for the problem. We\r\nare always trying to improve security and in this case it has caused a\r\nsmall temporary bug

It was transfered to the account through payment adress: 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ as stated on the page. TX id: 5628c79ef5e0671b8ad804d5addab883778a3fb7104757605ed7671dc7be3633-000  

You guys confirmed that you had recieved the 1BTC, but blamed technical issues with it not showing on my page, and that it would be fixed within 24 hours...  


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:31 AM, BitPlastic Support <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi ,

A reply has been added to the support request you submitted, which may be found below.  If needed, you may reply directly to this e-mail, and your message will be appended to the support ticket.

Date Sent:    March 24, 2014
Subject:      Still nothing!


---------- Message Contents ----------


Hi, I do not see any transfer to your card. When did you make the transfer and how much?  email me at [email protected]

-- END --




Michael M
Mar 31

to me
Hi,

Again, I don't see any transfer to your card. When did you request a
transfer and how much was it for ??


Svenn-André <[email protected]>
Mar 31

to Michael
i transfered btc to my account, havent transfered from account to card
yet. check tx id to check the transfer that was done 16.march
still no funds are added to the account.

Sendt fra min iphone

> Den 31. mars 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev Michael M <[email protected]>:


Michael M
Apr 2

to me
Hi,

I will investigate but I need to know:

1. address where you sent the btc
2. amount
3. date
4. transaction ID

Thanks

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Svenn-André

Svenn-André <[email protected]>
Apr 2

to Michael
Status: 2958 bekreftelser
Date: 16.03.2014 09:35
To: 1E7CAq17dJVsjx7XJjrdNkYyALbRadWWaZ
Debet: -1.00 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.001 BTC
Sum: -1.001 BTC
Transaction-ID: 5628c79ef5e0671b8ad804d5addab883778a3fb7104757605ed7671dc7be3633


Svenn-André <[email protected]>
Apr 7

to Michael
You forgot about me?


Svenn-André <[email protected]>
Apr 13 (13 days ago)

to Michael
Well i guess the whole thing is a big scam scam.
Ill start spreading the word.

   
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Michael M
11:32 PM (9 hours ago)

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correct your thread on bitcointalk and I will pay out out of my own pocket and take the loss


Svenn-André <[email protected]>
12:02 AM (9 hours ago)

to Michael
Sure, but i would correct the thread if you guys just responded to my complaint and sorted the issue. I have given you the amount,adress from/to and the tx id.
Which should help you guys unfold what has happened and correct my account balance.

Instead i got the silent threatment.
If you guys pay back my btc, i will of course correct the threads and make note of it there:)

Sendt fra min iphone

Den 25. apr. 2014 kl. 23:32 skrev Michael M <[email protected]>:


Michael M
6:15 AM (3 hours ago)

to me
Hi,

What I don't understand is that when I check your deposit address on BitPlastic I don't see anything there. I just sent 0.001 to that address and it showed up fine. So I don't understand why 1 btc wouldn't have shown up if you sent to that address?

https://blockchain.info/address/1MwNHaJ5trhjMP1E5z3rRawrh22sCaQyoX


Michael M
6:21 AM (3 hours ago)

to me
Screaming 'SCAM' is rather irresponsible these days. We have 10,000+ clients and own 50+ bitcoin websites. It is hardly in our interest to steal your 1 btc!

I don't understand where your 1btc went.  It certainly did not go to BitPlastic because we can see all transactions publicly in the blockchain.  Is it not possible that you sent it to a wrong address?


Michael M
7:00 AM (2 hours ago)

to me
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Michael M <[email protected]> wrote:
https://blockchain.info/address/1MwNHaJ5trhjMP1E5z3rRawrh22sCaQyoX

Since you have tarnished my reputation already with an accusation let us address this publicly here and resolve the issue:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=528623.new#new


Svenn-André <[email protected]>
9:23 AM (0 minutes ago)

to Michael
No problem cleaning up in public. I have responded in the thread.
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#4
I understand there are a LOT of scams in the Bitcoin world these days and the knee-jerk reaction is to scream SCAM at the top of your lungs.

Now, I have addressed this user numerous times, and I am still willing to investigate what happened.  Frankly, I am quite confused.

The user claims to have sent 1 BTC to his BitPlastic account.  But his BitPlastic deposit address shows nothing:
https://blockchain.info/address/1MwNHaJ5trhjMP1E5z3rRawrh22sCaQyoX

The 0.001 btc was a test deposit I sent to make sure his address was working, and it is.

I own 50+ bitcoin sites (BitPlastic, BitLaunder.com, BitArmored.com, CoinChimp.com, BitBing.com, BitForum.org, BitSweeps.com, BitListing.com and many, many more).  I am not in the business of ripping someone off for a measly 1 btc which would simply ruin my reputation.  It is far more profitable to run a legitimate business than a scam.

I am more than happy to post a screen-capture of this user's account as well. And I am also happy to keep investigating and I would like to address the complaint publicly, since he has made the scam accusation public.

If something has gone wrong with our service the user will be refunded. I just can't see what the problem is; it appears no funds were ever received.

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March 24, 2014, 02:47:02 PM
#3
Would stay away for a small while till its either confirmed not an scam, or they get their shit together!

Wrote my experience here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422317.new#new
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March 24, 2014, 06:28:08 AM
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Not the right section at all for this.
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March 24, 2014, 05:04:21 AM
#1
I just found bitplastic.com through a few advertisement points and I am wondering if or not they are a scam. Is there anyone out there that has used them successfully?

Places that I found their site on:

https://twitter.com/ATMBitcoin
http://com-http.us/coins/unc/
https://plus.google.com/+Bitplastic/videos

Bitplastic smells very fishy to me.
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