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Quote from: JollyGood on November 02, 2024, 03:10:47 PM

As of yet there does not seem to be any forthcoming announcements from theymos regarding more restrictions being placed on the forum structure therefore hopefully all will remain well. I do think the damage is already done in one way because many members created accounts on another forum after the mixer ban and it clearly demonstrates for them the forum is not indispensable.

It's crazy how many users migrated to this new scam forum, just to grind for these few $ from mixers each week. I recently checked the local German section there and its basically just broken German fake shills and shitposts trying to scam you. Even the mods of the German local board there don't even speak proper German and sound like a translator.

I understand that people wanna earn some $ from signature campaigns, but this place really looks like a shithole, lol.

And if you don't get any value from the stuff you're reading, $50 for 20 posts sound like a pretty bad deal (if you're living in a western country).

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As of yet there does not seem to be any forthcoming announcements from theymos regarding more restrictions being placed on the forum structure therefore hopefully all will remain well. I do think the damage is already done in one way because many members created accounts on another forum after the mixer ban and it clearly demonstrates for them the forum is not indispensable.

Take away the campaigns and the forum will not survive in the current format because most members along with their alt-accounts and accounts farms will migrate elsewhere. I doubt a campaign ban will ever be introduced but as you stated, further restrictions could kill traffic on the forum.

Quote from: Poker Player on November 01, 2024, 04:02:14 AM

Basically it would be a disaster, with a drastic reduction in traffic to this forum. There would be a few who are around here without wearing a paid signature, very few, the few who were still in a campaign and a few others who would hang around waiting for new campaigns to emerge, but in short it would be a blow to the life of the forum.

I already warned when the ban on mixers went into effect, that further restrictions could kill the traffic on the forum.

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Quote from: Darker45 on October 28, 2024, 10:17:25 PM

As Metallica's song goes, "you know it's sad but true, sad but true." The question at this point in time is, how can we make bitcointalk.org relevant again? How can we make bitcointalk.org great again?

Hardy possible imho. Forum culture is dieing, not only on Bitcointalk. Besides that, the forum layout lacks updates for years, the search function isn't newbie friendly and there is so much information here, that you get overwhelmed quite quickly. I could go on with this list, but there have been several threads already.

Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 01:43:54 AM

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It's quite easy to gain followers, if you do it right. I run several accounts which are monetized (and started about 12-18 months ago to focus more on twitter). Even if you're starting with zero followers today, u can get up to 10k quite quickly.

Just enter the shitcoin niche, get into some relevant cults and you will gain tons of followers quite quickly (if that's your goal ofc).

Besides that there are tons of good and bad Bitcoin and crypto information on Twitter. I prefer lists to follow relevant accounts in each niche to stay up to date.

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Quote from: JollyGood on October 29, 2024, 02:26:25 AM

At the moment the campaign landscape is 99% populated by betting companies. If they pull out of the forum, there will be a drop in payouts for remaining campaigns and there will be a disparity between the campaigns on offer versus the number of members seeking to enrol.

Basically it would be a disaster, with a drastic reduction in traffic to this forum. There would be a few who are around here without wearing a paid signature, very few, the few who were still in a campaign and a few others who would hang around waiting for new campaigns to emerge, but in short it would be a blow to the life of the forum.

I already warned when the ban on mixers went into effect, that further restrictions could kill the traffic on the forum.

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on October 28, 2024, 05:40:00 AM

The forum losing ground to the thousands other crypto sites out there nowadays. New users coming into the space won't likely start their journey here anymore.

Maybe if someone is doing a deep dive into bitcoin they might end up creating an account on Bitcointalk, but normies investing in "crypto" will likely stay on the platforms they already know (like Reddit or X).

The forum lost most of its ground to X/Twitter. But if you're not actively engaging with bitcoin or crypto posters over there, then you're not going to get anywhere.

And if you have less than 1000 followers, just forget about it.

So I recently put a blue check on my account, to see how that would turn out.

It's sorta like a magnet in that it helps with attracting new followers, but it's going to be a long way to a few thousand+ followers.

You can actually charge people to subscribe to your articles too. So in a way it's sorta breaking crypto news sites too, for those creators who are big enough to have an audience.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 12:00:28 AM

How much time do paid signature campaigns have left in this forum? I am asking my crystal ball but it does not answer me.

I guess the casino campaigns have some years left but I don't see many other sectors that are going to be interested in advertising here, as they have so many alternatives.

Right now we have one payment processor, Cryptomus doing a campaign here and on their rules it stated that posters are off limit to discussions about gambling.
Although there are a lot of alternatives to advertise their crypto-related platforms, they will still include Bitcointalk to brand their services and products.
I'm sure our managers are working hard to convince products and services that Bitcointalk is worth advertising on their platforms.

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There was a time when ANN threads were more relevant than today, that was when many genuine tokens and coins were being launched years ago. There were plenty of scams too but there were genuine projects too.

I think the altcoin section does not have the pull it used to have once upon a time and that along with the fact other forums and websites for crypto enthusiasts to chat are increasing in number, it will have an overall impact on traffic numbers. As a result of any decline, it has to filter down the ecosystem to affect how much campaign participants get paid.

At the moment the campaign landscape is 99% populated by betting companies. If they pull out of the forum, there will be a drop in payouts for remaining campaigns and there will be a disparity between the campaigns on offer versus the number of members seeking to enrol. It will have a huge impact on traffic when members start going elsewhere.

We know that for historical reasons new members will continue to join but what we cannot negate is the fact that with an outdated forum, new members want something that looks significantly better. If it continues down this path, it will be to the long term detriment of the forum.

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on October 28, 2024, 05:40:00 AM

Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 12:00:28 AM

I guess the casino campaigns have some years left but I don't see many other sectors that are going to be interested in advertising here, as they have so many alternatives.

The forum losing ground to the thousands other crypto sites out there nowadays. New users coming into the space won't likely start their journey here anymore.

Maybe if someone is doing a deep dive into bitcoin they might end up creating an account on Bitcointalk, but normies investing in "crypto" will likely stay on the platforms they already know (like Reddit or X).

In addition to that you have hundred of new crypto news websites, blogs and chat groups popping up every day. And when it comes to altcoins, the forum has completely lost its relevance. In 2017 and earlier, there were tons of legit projects that advertised here, while today the founders don't even know about Bitcointalk anymore.

It's sad, since I really like this place, but I doubt this trend can be stopped.

As Metallica's song goes, "you know it's sad but true, sad but true." The question at this point in time is, how can we make bitcointalk.org relevant again? How can we make bitcointalk.org great again?

Such is a hard thing to answer when Bitcoin is more $71,000 and less decentralized, peer-to-peer, electronic cash system. But I'm hoping that "normies" investing in Bitcoin observes the bare minimum in due diligence-- knowing what you're investing in. It isn't even a deep dive that's required. They know Bitcoin, they must know Satoshi, they might be led here because Satoshi was never on Twitter or Reddit but on this forum.

It seems altcoins these days aren't about technicalities but marketing and images. The most solid of them all like Ethereum, Litecoin, Monero were like bitcointalk babies. In the age of jpegs and inscriptions and investments, this forum might not be that relevant anymore. It's mass marketing that they need. They don't find it here. They can find it on social media.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 12:00:28 AM

I guess the casino campaigns have some years left but I don't see many other sectors that are going to be interested in advertising here, as they have so many alternatives.

The forum losing ground to the thousands other crypto sites out there nowadays. New users coming into the space won't likely start their journey here anymore.

Maybe if someone is doing a deep dive into bitcoin they might end up creating an account on Bitcointalk, but normies investing in "crypto" will likely stay on the platforms they already know (like Reddit or X).

In addition to that you have hundred of new crypto news websites, blogs and chat groups popping up every day. And when it comes to altcoins, the forum has completely lost its relevance. In 2017 and earlier, there were tons of legit projects that advertised here, while today the founders don't even know about Bitcointalk anymore.

It's sad, since I really like this place, but I doubt this trend can be stopped.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 12:00:28 AM

I guess the casino campaigns have some years left but I don't see many other sectors that are going to be interested in advertising here, as they have so many alternatives.

So far, at this point of time, casino campaigns are adding up, if there are campaigns stopping, there are new ones coming in and there are a few exchange that launched their campaign that includes the one I'm promoting, The number fo new exchanges in the exchanges announcement is growing; hopefully they utilize the power of Bitcointalk to maximize their presence here.

So far we are doing great with all the campaigns here; its still a mix of casinos and exchanges, and we have yet to see other industries find Bitcointalk as their best alternatives to launch their marketing campaigns.

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Just as a side comment a local Harley dealer who knows that since I got my last bike I have been spending a lot of time in some LiveWire forums asked me if I was interested in having a post tag (their name for signatures) for their dealer.

Offered $1 a post or $1.5 in store credit a post totaled monthly. A pittance compared to here BUT LiveWire(the brand not the dealer) have barely been selling 1000 bikes a year so it's a real small market.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 26, 2024, 11:05:22 AM

Signature campaigns are going to last as long as companies find value in them. There really isn't any way to tell if that will be days, weeks, months, or years. Just stack that btc while you can cause one day there will be no more earning it free.

Yep, people can only hope that they will continue them, but that's all right, as long as there are other reputable campaigns going.

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Quote from: Z-tight on August 18, 2024, 12:59:19 PM

... there could possibly be more new campaigns showing up in the weeks to come. The forum is still an attractive place for businesses to advertise and market their product, so services will keep coming, just not as frequently as before and nothing close to the average payrate of before.

I'm sure there will be more campaigns. The campaign managers and their staff never stopped working to introduce Bitcointalk as the best place to advertise their businesses. Hats off to Royse777, Icopress, Hhampuz, and all the other managers who keep this business going.

I'm sure it's not easy because so many businesses or projects still do not know how Bitcointalk works and are not aware of its potential as a platform for building their brand.

Even now there are so many campaigns that are being launched, no need to wait for some time soon.

Naturally the new services that come here would like to make use of the extra advertising space that is available when people fall out of a signature, so in a way the situation with there being enough campaigns and not enough of them just repeats itself on an endless cycle.

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Quote from: Z-tight on August 18, 2024, 12:59:19 PM

... there could possibly be more new campaigns showing up in the weeks to come. The forum is still an attractive place for businesses to advertise and market their product, so services will keep coming, just not as frequently as before and nothing close to the average payrate of before.

I'm sure there will be more campaigns. The campaign managers and their staff never stopped working to introduce Bitcointalk as the best place to advertise their businesses. Hats off to Royse777, Icopress, Hhampuz, and all the other managers who keep this business going.

I'm sure it's not easy because so many businesses or projects still do not know how Bitcointalk works and are not aware of its potential as a platform for building their brand.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 15, 2024, 04:04:55 AM

Theymos' decision to ban advertisements of bitcoin mixers was a turning point in my opinion. Since then, we have seen a constant decline in payrates. It wasn't long ago when the best forum members could earn $200 a week from their signature space. Those times are gone. The best campaigns now pay $90 to $100 a week. We are already seeing drops to the $70 to $50 zone, and it won't be long until the rates drop again towards $30 or less. After that, the best forum users won't even bother applying for campaigns and will just post when and if they see fit. People are already less active then what they used to be.

I don't think we will go below $50 or $30 in the worst case especially with gambling campaigns.
The new trend might be exchanges as in the past ICOs were dominant and then mixers so the forum is renewed periodically otherwise its value would have decreased since 2015 when the best members stopped posting. You can read posts by DannyHamilton and how the forum has become a bad place since 2014.

The difficulty will be if you have a problem with gambling signatures, here your chances will be very limited.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 15, 2024, 04:04:55 AM

and it won't be long until the rates drop again towards $30 or less. After that, the best forum users won't even bother applying for campaigns and will just post when and if they see fit. People are already less active then what they used to be.

If that happens then the forum traffic is going to take a very big hit, i know some people like to say the forum isn't just about signature campaigns, which i agree, but the truth is that the signature campaigns contribute a lot to the traffic in the forum and also pushes many users to get better at their post.

Quote from: Apocollapse on August 15, 2024, 11:53:37 PM

Since both Stead.Defi and Dgbet will likely end in the next week, while Godex and Cryptomus not yet started, I expect the traffic will relatively same since two new campaigns will replace two ended campaigns.

We'll see what happens with that, there could possibly be more new campaigns showing up in the weeks to come. The forum is still an attractive place for businesses to advertise and market their product, so services will keep coming, just not as frequently as before and nothing close to the average payrate of before.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on August 15, 2024, 11:53:37 PM

It's also worth to note that July and August is the time people go on their summer holidays. Forum members may be away from their homes and also taking a break from posting on Bitcointalk. As they return to their usual routines, we might see the traffic recover somewhat, but it's not going to get back up to what we had 6 months ago or at this time last year.

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Now look, the traffic is slowly increasing started from July 23 till now.

There was a new campaign opened in July 25 which is Dgbet, and other new campaigns like Stead.Defi in August 1, The Change Ltd in August 9, Cryptomus and Godex in August 12, then Weiss in August 13.

Since both Stead.Defi and Dgbet will likely end in the next week, while Godex and Cryptomus not yet started, I expect the traffic will relatively same since two new campaigns will replace two ended campaigns.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 15, 2024, 04:04:55 AM

Theymos' decision to ban advertisements of bitcoin mixers was a turning point in my opinion

But there is nothing we can do about it - right?

So better to follow suit and continue to take part in the discussions like we have done in the past. We might see new campaigns come up and eventually the rate of new posts will go up. The forum might be going through a phase affected by the type of campaigns being run and the users currently active.

No big news in crypto at present means lesser new registrations of legit users.

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Theymos' decision to ban advertisements of bitcoin mixers was a turning point in my opinion. Since then, we have seen a constant decline in payrates. It wasn't long ago when the best forum members could earn $200 a week from their signature space. Those times are gone. The best campaigns now pay $90 to $100 a week. We are already seeing drops to the $70 to $50 zone, and it won't be long until the rates drop again towards $30 or less. After that, the best forum users won't even bother applying for campaigns and will just post when and if they see fit. People are already less active then what they used to be.

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 03, 2024, 03:58:43 PM

Quote from: Poker Player on August 01, 2024, 10:56:21 PM

I think that just as the forum traffic is slowly declining, there are many other sites on the internet where traffic is busy, as Darker45 says, and even growing.

In the near future one of the things that might happen if a balance between declining forum traffic and increasing traffic elsewhere is to be found, is signature campaigns remaining ongoing but payouts significantly reduced. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

Companies pay users based on the amount of people they think will see the signature that the users wear. That's why during a bull run when there are so many users coming over here looking at Bitcoin Discussion, rates naturally get higher. And of course there was a perpetual demand for mixers, which for a long time had their largest user base here, so the high rates they paid come from that.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on August 13, 2024, 07:15:00 AM

Did you mean that posting on this forum is like someone will earn bitcoin freely? I do not think so. The reason is because I have noticed that when people are not in campaign, they do no post or their posting significantly reduce. I also noticed many reputable members that are legendary to be like that when signature campaigns reduced on this forum due to mixer signature campaign ban.

I think I have mentioned this previously in other threads, but I will repeat it once more so that it makes sense.

When I was booted from my previous campaign there was a ~1m period when I was out of any campaigns and no new campaign had opened their doors yet. In that times I took the initiative of visiting my local board and getting it active once again. Because of posting constraints I often posted in smaller numbers there but since then I had time and no constraints it was easier.

People should remain active even if their previous campaign stops, coming to the forum only for participating in campaigns looks bad.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on August 13, 2024, 07:15:00 AM

Did you mean that posting on this forum is like someone will earn bitcoin freely? I do not think so. The reason is because I have noticed that when people are not in campaign, they do no post or their posting significantly reduce. I also noticed many reputable members that are legendary to be like that when signature campaigns reduced on this forum due to mixer signature campaign ban. I guess most of them on this forum are here to earn money. It is more like this forum is taking their time just like something is motivating them to earn more money just like the job someone is doing.

It always been like that.

When they don't earn anything from this forum, they will reduce their activity. Not only limited to signature space, but avatar space, personal text space, or title like moderators do count.

Moment of the truth is waiting until their campaign ends and there are no signature campaign that suit on them.

Only few users are here not for money, some of them are in Bitcoin Discussion and WO thread.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 26, 2024, 11:05:22 AM

Signature campaigns are going to last as long as companies find value in them. There really isn't any way to tell if that will be days, weeks, months, or years. Just stack that btc while you can cause one day there will be no more earning it free.

Did you mean that posting on this forum is like someone will earn bitcoin freely? I do not think so. The reason is because I have noticed that when people are not in campaign, they do no post or their posting significantly reduce. I also noticed many reputable members that are legendary to be like that when signature campaigns reduced on this forum due to mixer signature campaign ban. I guess most of them on this forum are here to earn money. It is more like this forum is taking their time just like something is motivating them to earn more money just like the job someone is doing.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 26, 2024, 11:05:22 AM

Signature campaigns are going to last as long as companies find value in them. There really isn't any way to tell if that will be days, weeks, months, or years. Just stack that btc while you can cause one day there will be no more earning it free.

That is the inevitable fact. Maybe one day signature campaigns will not have any useful impact on advertising and that could lead to businesses completely abandoning the forum. As for storing BTC, that sounds very reasonable because even though it is being earned today by posting, one day it could be worth a phenomenal amount when comparing to major international fiat currencies.

Quote from: Poker Player on August 01, 2024, 10:56:21 PM

I think that just as the forum traffic is slowly declining, there are many other sites on the internet where traffic is busy, as Darker45 says, and even growing.

In the near future one of the things that might happen if a balance between declining forum traffic and increasing traffic elsewhere is to be found, is signature campaigns remaining ongoing but payouts significantly reduced. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

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I have said it many times over the years, signature campaigns are nothing new to internet forums.

Quote from: DaveF on November 07, 2023, 11:10:52 AM

Going back to pre Y2K days I had a paid signature on a motorcycle forum.
And this was before PayPal was even a thing for online payments. We actually got mailed checks every couple of months, had to fill on a W-9 (tax form) and got a 1099 (tax form) at the end of the year.

Then PayPal came and it all went nuts for a while.

-Dave

Because of that, I think signature campaigns are going to stay around for a long time. Pay rates may drop, or requirements may change. But, since they have been around for decades across various forums I don't see them going away.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 01, 2024, 10:06:19 PM

Hehehehehe it will not only be the old design of the forum or their difficulty of using the forum. This will certainly be because there are many low quality posts and spamming.

Regardless of what Musk and others can do, in the past there was a lot of alts and spamming and this was a site that attracted quite a few advertisers. I think that just as the forum traffic is slowly declining, there are many other sites on the internet where traffic is busy, as Darker45 says, and even growing.

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Quote from: Solosanz on July 26, 2024, 01:21:28 AM

If Elon Musk, PlanB, CZ and any other popular people/institution choose to being active in this forum over twitter, the traffic will be very big since it would attract people to come in this forum.

These people will get a hard time using the forum or even criticize how the site looks like (due to the old-looking design of this forum knowing these same people have different view of the future) and operates despite how technology grows on the past few years, this is in relation of UX and modern web design.

Hehehehehe it will not only be the old design of the forum or their difficulty of using the forum. This will certainly be because there are many low quality posts and spamming. A newbie who will read the gambling subforum for advice will certainly be confused because much of the people are posting gibberish and kicking the deadhorse repeatedly.

The horse had 100 heart attacks and dead already. Everyone should stop kicking him be to become alive again hehehehe.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 12:00:28 AM

How much time do paid signature campaigns have left in this forum? I am asking my crystal ball but it does not answer me.

I guess the casino campaigns have some years left but I don't see many other sectors that are going to be interested in advertising here, as they have so many alternatives.

Perhaps you didn’t give it a good rub else, you would have seen the wobbling and sparky tornado cloud spiral roll am seeing to tell you that, you’ve just got to cover the crystal ball with a black cloth to just rest it after the mixer displacement.
It needs to cool it’s mystical realm of brightly, roygbiv colored and misty atmosphere. We would have a better shot at it in a few years, for now, we still and signature spaces may persist.

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Quote from: NotATether on July 30, 2024, 07:06:24 AM

If you haven't noticed, even we are having trouble finding offers for our signatures.

No more mixers, and the ban on most online gambling advertising in my country doesn't leave many options.
It's not the lack of offers Wink

I'm okay without signature though, and really like not being paid per post. Even my last few signature didn't have any posting requirements.

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Quote from: shield132 on July 28, 2024, 02:32:51 PM

Signature campaigns on this forum will last till we have as active users as LoyceV, Philipma, PowerGlove, Skeptical Chymist and etc... Their number is huge and I can't include all of them. It's very noticeable when such active members leave this forum,

If you haven't noticed, even we are having trouble finding offers for our signatures.

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Quote from: shield132 on July 28, 2024, 02:32:51 PM

Signature campaigns on this forum will last till we have as active users as LoyceV, Philipma, PowerGlove, Skeptical Chymist and etc... Their number is huge and I can't include all of them. It's very noticeable when such active members leave this forum,

Important members you have listed here, no doubt; however, the existence of signature campaigns in bitcointalk does not depend on any user, what matters is the all round traffic in the forum. Funny thing is they complement one another, campaigns and traffic; if there is traffic, campaigns will come, and campaigns help to generate traffic in the forum.

Quote from: shield132 on July 28, 2024, 02:32:51 PM

Also, the activity of campaign managers play a significant role. As long as signature campaign managers actively contact casinos and negotiate with them to run a signature campaign on this forum, they'll be here. This forum still has good traffic and is beneficial for SEO too.

I don't think this would ever be a problem, there are enough campaign managers in the forum, and there are a lot still waiting to make their mark as campaign managers. So they will surely contact casinos, because it benefits them, the casinos and the forum.

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Quote from: shield132 on July 28, 2024, 02:32:51 PM

Also, the activity of campaign managers play a significant role. As long as signature campaign managers actively contact casinos and negotiate with them to run a signature campaign on this forum, they'll be here. This forum still has good traffic and is beneficial for SEO too. The rest depends on theymos.

That's true they play a significant contribution on signature campaigns here, in the past projects will go here to promote their platforms but now since there are a lot of new alternatives and new projects that are not aware of Bitcointalk they have to work to invite them and try Bitcointalk to promote their projects.

We have to give them due credits for their works and as members of this forum we must do our job and make it a passion to contribute good content here in Bitcointalk to pull up traffics from the internet.

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Quote from: shield132 on July 28, 2024, 02:32:51 PM

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Signature campaigns on this forum will last till we have as active users as LoyceV, Philipma, PowerGlove, Skeptical Chymist and etc... Their number is huge and I can't include all of them. It's very noticeable when such active members leave this forum, for example - o_e_l_e_o. I think everyone feels that he is not on this forum anymore.

I would not agree that any individual is the deciding factor for a sig campaign (or all campaigns) to be present on this forum. All these companies are looking for a place to advertise, and they will be on the forum as long as they have results from that same advertisement or until the forum bans them from advertising for some reason.

As for members who have left us, it is unfortunately a natural process that will continue, and over the years we have lost many members who were well-known on the forum.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 26, 2024, 11:05:22 AM

Just stack that btc while you can cause one day there will be no more earning it free.

Is it free now? Well, it's free in the sense that earning from sig is a privilege (very few number of people) but we all know sig camp has been turned into what.

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I don't have crystal ball to answer such question. Now though for some time and I think there is simply too many factors. Like it's possible that one day theymos will ban gambling campaigns because of regulations or similar shit. That would end 90% of current campaigns.
I predict that in upcoming several years signature campaigns will remain, but there won't be many new campaigns appearing. Mainly current long term campaigns without many participants will remain.

Quote from: Solosanz on July 26, 2024, 01:21:28 AM

If Elon Musk, PlanB, CZ and any other popular people/institution choose to being active in this forum over twitter, the traffic will be very big since it would attract people to come in this forum.

Such thing sounds soooo unrealistic. Forums in general is turning into things from past for mainstream, something like mIRC or Skype.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 12:00:28 AM

How much time do paid signature campaigns have left in this forum? I am asking my crystal ball but it does not answer me.

I guess the casino campaigns have some years left but I don't see many other sectors that are going to be interested in advertising here, as they have so many alternatives.

I think that time is still there. I have been on this forum since 2016 and signature campaigns have come and gone all the time but there are many that stayed on this forum. There are many benefits that come with actively promoting on this forum, and one of them is trust. Casinos that get negative trust on this forum often struggle because many people check "casino name + scam" in Google and when they see red tags on casino accounts, I think they hesitate to gamble there. On the other hand, casinos with green trust on this forum perform well outside the forum too.

Signature campaigns on this forum will last till we have as active users as LoyceV, Philipma, PowerGlove, Skeptical Chymist and etc... Their number is huge and I can't include all of them. It's very noticeable when such active members leave this forum, for example - o_e_l_e_o. I think everyone feels that he is not on this forum anymore.

Also, the activity of campaign managers play a significant role. As long as signature campaign managers actively contact casinos and negotiate with them to run a signature campaign on this forum, they'll be here. This forum still has good traffic and is beneficial for SEO too. The rest depends on theymos.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 12:00:28 AM

How much time do paid signature campaigns have left in this forum? I am asking my crystal ball but it does not answer me.

As long as platforms continue branding themselves to maintain their edge over the market, we will see platforms continuously branding themselves, even if they are already very popular, to keep hold of the leadership in the market.

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I guess the casino campaigns have some years left but I don't see many other sectors that are going to be interested in advertising here, as they have so many alternatives.

The case is not about being interested. It's about them not knowing how well Bitcointalk can pull traffic to their platform and brand their service or product. The campaign manager's job is to invite them here to try the conversion and results.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on July 26, 2024, 09:12:02 AM

The forum will continue to exist even if projects stop their signature campaigns.

Surely the forum is not run by signature campaigns and even if all signature campaigns stop, the forum will continue; however, what is going to happen to the forums traffic, it will take a very big hit, so many members will look for other forums where they can get some incentive for posting.

Quote from: TheUltraElite on July 26, 2024, 09:12:02 AM

in my opinion and I have the feeling that complete stop of all campaigns at any instant will likely not happen. Most likely their number may reduce over time but they will eventually be replaced by new ones.

You are right and it is almost impossible for all campaigns to stop. Just that if casinos make up ~ 99% of the campaigns in the forum, and only a few of them run long lasting campaigns, then it would get to a point that there are only a few campaigns, but so many members looking a slot, and it is close to saying there are no campaigns.

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Advertisers prioritize platforms where traffic is busy. Popular social media platforms are where crypto companies will definitely focus their ads. But for as long as the forum has visitors, advertisers will find their presence here useful. Whether they stay or not ultimately depends on the impact their ads have on their business when they do the analysis at the end of the day. But I doubt there will come a time when nobody visits this place anymore. This forum has so much value, so much history, the only forum focused on Bitcoin.

While the number of signature campaigns rise and fall, it might stay around for a long while.

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Other options besides forum signatures have been out there for a while, even before crypto became popular. Social media sites, personal blogs, and specialized review websites have existed for years and forum sites used to be the main place people went but they dont have as much impact anymore.

Signature campaigns might stick around in gambling forums, but its tough to see them lasting in other areas. I think advertisers will keep funding these campaigns if they keep getting results. But if better options come up, theyll eventually move on.

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Quote from: Solosanz on July 26, 2024, 01:21:28 AM

If Elon Musk, PlanB, CZ and any other popular people/institution choose to being active in this forum over twitter, the traffic will be very big since it would attract people to come in this forum.

These people won't spend any a single minute of their time browsing the forum. Maybe just trying to look at the most interesting threads that are published or trying to look back for each post of satoshi. IMHO, cz has been here and advertised Binance through the great days of ICO and he's currently serving his jailtime or is he allowed to use a phone there? Vitalik was once here and I think he'd definitely get a lot of attention by doing some throwbacks on his socials about his humble beginnings here. As for Elon, he's got twitter/X and he likes trolling much there.

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Quote from: Solosanz on July 26, 2024, 01:21:28 AM

If Elon Musk, PlanB, CZ and any other popular people/institution choose to being active in this forum over twitter, the traffic will be very big since it would attract people to come in this forum.

These people will get a hard time using the forum or even criticize how the site looks like (due to the old-looking design of this forum knowing these same people have different view of the future) and operates despite how technology grows on the past few years, this is in relation of UX and modern web design.

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Signature campaigns are going to last as long as companies find value in them. There really isn't any way to tell if that will be days, weeks, months, or years. Just stack that btc while you can cause one day there will be no more earning it free.

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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

The forum will continue to exist even if projects stop their signature campaigns. Eventually the forum will be found by new bitcoiners and they will attempt to restart the campaigns once again. It like a cycle, in my opinion and I have the feeling that complete stop of all campaigns at any instant will likely not happen. Most likely their number may reduce over time but they will eventually be replaced by new ones.

Crystal balls are scams, mmaky?

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 12:00:28 AM

How much time do paid signature campaigns have left in this forum? I am asking my crystal ball but it does not answer me.

Good question, but really hard to find the answer, however, if i am to be honest, the future of signature campaigns kind of looks bleak in my honest opinion, especially based on the situation right now. With mixers gone, it was predicted to be like this. Gambling casinos are going to come and go, but not in such a large number, a few instant exchanges here and there, but apart from that, i don't see other sectors of the industry coming here to advertise.

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If Elon Musk, PlanB, CZ and any other popular people/institution choose to being active in this forum over twitter, the traffic will be very big since it would attract people to come in this forum.

It's hard to forecast when it will end because if there are few projects willing to pay big reward, it will make the signature campaign become competitive again.

I guess it will not completely end instead they will pay peanut.

Quote from: Oshosondy on July 26, 2024, 12:21:05 AM

What I just know is that we should not depend on only this forum as a source of income. We should have other means to earn money.

Most people always say like this, don't depend on signature campaign and have other source of income like freelance or gigs, but when I ask what freelance jobs you do, they mostly disappear...

Freelance nowadays is already over saturated and ridiculously hard to find clients.

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We can only guess but we can not know much about when there will no more be a signature campaign on this forum anymore. What I just know is that we should not depend on only this forum as a source of income. We should have other means to earn money. But I guess that as long as the traffic on this forum is more than a million, this will attract some gambling sites to still be on this forum.

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How much time do paid signature campaigns have left in this forum? I am asking my crystal ball but it does not answer me.

I guess the casino campaigns have some years left but I don't see many other sectors that are going to be interested in advertising here, as they have so many alternatives.

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