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Quote from: Blazed on August 13, 2015, 07:05:15 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on August 13, 2015, 06:36:48 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 13, 2015, 05:39:12 AM

May I ask what the OP has done though? He's clearly been found to have those alts but what have these accounts done? Scammed people or what?

The OP is an alt of yenzae0215, and dznuts85. yenzae0215 defaulted on a loan in March from MadZ, and dznuts85 took money from girlbtc.com to manage their signature campaign but instantly ran away with the funds. It should also be noted that dznuts85 lied about his account being sold in an effort to get his negative trust removed, although this claim was quickly disproven.

lol why would anyone have trusted dznuts85 with an escrow? Anyways I agree QS does good for the community! Thanks for all the efforts in busting these scammers.

Not taking any sides here.

I had kept warning girlbtc.com right from the start about the possibility of getting scammed, about using escrow and related standard practices we generally follow. Even offered my help. None of the advice was taken but kept saying to post on the thread instead of using PM. And then she/he picks someone and does everything he asks without question. Funny, lol. Wink

dznuts85 is a scammer. That is the part I am sure about.

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It couldn't be any more that the all you are trying to do is attack Quickseller in your private little war because you earned some negative trust.

Defending Hexacoin is a really bad idea.

I would find another angle of attack if I were you.

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Dear Hexacoin, I'm sorry to disappoint you in admitting that I'm not defending hexcoin. I was drawing attention to the attack-dog mocking taunting style of Quickseller as contrasted with others in this forum.

You might not calling defending your reputation against slander a "little private war" if your hero had perpetrated on you what he's perpetrated on me. Then again, maybe he won't be doing that to you because you seem to be his number one cheerleader and as far as I can tell, the reason he started all this trouble with me was because he couldn't handle my adult-criticism of his hot temper against several forum members so many months ago. Be warned, if you do ever disagree with quickseller, tread with caution or you may end up like me.

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Quote from: Tomatocage on August 14, 2015, 05:28:10 PM

I think you're reading more into QS's messages than there actually is. Hexcoin's primary concern is not that he and his alt accounts were discovered -- it's how they were discovered and how he might avoid this with his next round of accounts. I don't have any more say over what QS writes than I do over which way the wind blows, but while he may offend some people, I much prefer that situation than the one where scammers slip through the cracks and end up stealing peoples' money. I hope you understand this.

i think the same, considering hexcoin is actively trying to purchase new accounts: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12136948

quite dumb bid for accounts using his one, will only make people actively look for alts of him and he will have to trust the escrow and the seller to keep his secret

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Quote from: Tomatocage on August 14, 2015, 05:28:10 PM

I think you're reading more into QS's messages than there actually is. Hexcoin's primary concern is not that he and his alt accounts were discovered -- it's how they were discovered and how he might avoid this with his next round of accounts. I don't have any more say over what QS writes than I do over which way the wind blows, but while he may offend some people, I much prefer that situation than the one where scammers slip through the cracks and end up stealing peoples' money. I hope you understand this.

i think the same, considering hexcoin is actively trying to purchase new accounts: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12136948

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I think you're reading more into QS's messages than there actually is. Hexcoin's primary concern is not that he and his alt accounts were discovered -- it's how they were discovered and how he might avoid this with his next round of accounts. I don't have any more say over what QS writes than I do over which way the wind blows, but while he may offend some people, I much prefer that situation than the one where scammers slip through the cracks and end up stealing peoples' money. I hope you understand this.

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Quote from: BadBear on August 14, 2015, 04:42:01 AM

You probably don't know this tspacepilot, but you can encrypt messages with multiple recipients using GPG, I was able to decrypt it.

If you're going to ask people to not rush to judgement against Hexcoin, you should do the same for Quickseller and Tomatocage if you want to be taken seriously.

Thank you BadBear for the information. I don't know if you're implying that QS encrypted that message in order for Hexcoin to read it, but given the taunting and mocking tone of QS' message, its hard to believe that his intention was to be helpful.

As for rushing to judgment, I'd hardly call the 5 months of mocking, taunting, sockpuppet lying negative ratings (three of them from three different accounts), and an inability to explain himself or a legitimate reason for his attack rushing to judgment. With respect to tomatocage, my only gripe with him is that he seems to be vouching for this kind of behavior now. Are you also vouching for this kind of behavior?

My goal in posting was to call attention to the respectful tone of Shorena, asking for information and avoiding drama, and to contrast it to that of Quickseller, who in his first post in the thread, replies with taunting hautiness. This same taunting hautiness had had me harrassed by QS for 5 months now, as he exploded in rage on me when I dared to call him a hothead in late March---I thought it wasn't cool to call people idiots and fools just because they disagree with you, and I have paid the price for having crossed him. The amazing thing to me is that apprantely this kind of behavior is now sponsored.

I can tell that you guys have warned him not to reply in my thread on his behavior, that if he does so he risks legitimizing my complaints, that if he wants to keep his many false ratings on me and stay on default trust he's going to have to avoid explaining himself (since, apparantely there is no explanation). Anyway, I know nothing of hexcoin's situation, but I recognize the bile of Quickseller all too well, and I thought it was worth it to contrast its style with Shorena's.

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Quote from: BadBear on August 14, 2015, 06:02:23 AM

I usually don't, I have enough on my plate. That's why I have them in my trust list.

He probably is.

Fair enough.

Quote from: Hexcoin on August 13, 2015, 12:43:44 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on August 13, 2015, 12:16:51 AM

yenzae0215 claimed that an address that was posted by him belonged to coins.ph, and that was a lie. Since you are yenzae0215, and you knew that address does not belong to coins.ph, you know it is a lie, and I know it is a lie because I know which addresses belong to coins.ph

incase you really dont know and only "acting" you know everything

take a look

-picture-

Whats that supposed to show btw? That you have a coins.ph account?

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Quote from: Hexcoin on August 14, 2015, 02:05:38 AM

ok most users are all close minded, cant even dig deeper, found 1 clue and go for accusation.

When you're using the same Bitcoin address for all your alts, yeah that's kind of a dead give away, ya think?

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I usually don't, I have enough on my plate. That's why I have them in my trust list.

He probably is.

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Quote from: BadBear on August 14, 2015, 04:42:01 AM

You probably don't know this tspacepilot, but you can encrypt messages with multiple recipients using GPG, I was able to decrypt it.

If you're going to ask people to not rush to judgement against Hexcoin, you should do the same for Quickseller and Tomatocage if you want to be taken seriously.

I dont see you adding a rating though it was encrypted for you and QS.

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You probably don't know this tspacepilot, but you can encrypt messages with multiple recipients using GPG, I was able to decrypt it.

If you're going to ask people to not rush to judgement against Hexcoin, you should do the same for Quickseller and Tomatocage if you want to be taken seriously.

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Probably the addresses have never been used in the same transaction, but wallet explorer showed all addresses came from the same wallet.

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Quote from: shorena on August 14, 2015, 03:31:41 AM

May I get a copy of the proof?

4E32 814C 98C2 B12E C473 228B 940A 17DB BD6B 68E2

Right now Im not convinced, the blockchain evidence that is presented here[1] is very thin and would IMHO deserve a neutral rating at best.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108209.20

Once again, well done to Shorena for not getting caught up in the lynch-mob hype that often surrounds these sorts of events. Being respectful and keeping the benefit of the doubt is something that Tomatocage once wrote to Quickseller as a standard for leaving feedback.

Shame on Quickseller for once again making an ass of himself as he posts encrypted "evidence" in order to try to mock someone that he's smearing. If you actually have evidence and you're going to post it, post it. If you don't have the evidence it's better to keep your mouth shut. If you have the evidence and don't plan to post it, you should say that. Posting this kind of taunting foolishness is the kind of thing done by vengeful teenagers not adults with self-repsect and with basic human respect for others.

Mods, you guys condone this kind of taunting?

Quote from: Quickseller on August 12, 2015, 11:45:13 PM

Although, since you did not stipulate the format that you want the evidence posted in, I will post it below:

Code:

I don't claim to know anything about hexcoin or whether or not he has alts. But I do want to draw attention to the way that people are behaving in addressing this concern.

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No I dont escrow anymore.

May I get a copy of the proof?

4E32 814C 98C2 B12E C473 228B 940A 17DB BD6B 68E2

Right now Im not convinced, the blockchain evidence that is presented here[1] is very thin and would IMHO deserve a neutral rating at best.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108209.20

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ok most users are all close minded, cant even dig deeper, found 1 clue and go for accusation.

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Quote from: Hexcoin on August 13, 2015, 09:31:03 PM

seriously, not really good detectives of this forum, atleast on this case. why not dig more and you will know if im really yenzae0215 or dznuts85?

I thought you are wasting time! No one is gonna trust you anymore! Probably you can create a new alt and try to be careful to protect your identity. LOL

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seriously, not really good detectives of this forum, atleast on this case. why not dig more and you will know if im really yenzae0215 or dznuts85?

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dznuts85
Fukisusabukaze
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ianbelada
ianbelada2
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SexyPonzi
Yakushi
yenzae0215

Clint gets a pass since it's been verified to be under new ownership. All the others (and probably some that I missed) are your alts. Don't worry, I'll find your others no matter how many proxies you try to hide behind

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Hexcoin, you must think we're stupid or something Roll Eyes

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Quote from: AccountStore.biz on August 13, 2015, 11:13:57 AM

dznutz85 is an account seller under the account ACCTVendor.

Maybe OP bought an account off him. I don't know really what happened for sure.

Do you have proof ACCTVendor is an alt account of dznutz85? you should share it if you do

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dznutz85 is an account seller under the account ACCTVendor.

Maybe OP bought an account off him. I don't know really what happened for sure.

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Quote from: Blazed on August 13, 2015, 07:05:15 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on August 13, 2015, 06:36:48 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 13, 2015, 05:39:12 AM

May I ask what the OP has done though? He's clearly been found to have those alts but what have these accounts done? Scammed people or what?

The OP is an alt of yenzae0215, and dznuts85. yenzae0215 defaulted on a loan in March from MadZ, and dznuts85 took money from girlbtc.com to manage their signature campaign but instantly ran away with the funds. It should also be noted that dznuts85 lied about his account being sold in an effort to get his negative trust removed, although this claim was quickly disproven.

lol why would anyone have trusted dznuts85 with an escrow? Anyways I agree QS does good for the community! Thanks for all the efforts in busting these scammers.

girlbtc.com was very inexperienced and did not know how to act according to the community standards and did not know how to properly protect themselves.

Thanks for the kind words:)

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 13, 2015, 06:36:48 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 13, 2015, 05:39:12 AM

May I ask what the OP has done though? He's clearly been found to have those alts but what have these accounts done? Scammed people or what?

The OP is an alt of yenzae0215, and dznuts85. yenzae0215 defaulted on a loan in March from MadZ, and dznuts85 took money from girlbtc.com to manage their signature campaign but instantly ran away with the funds. It should also be noted that dznuts85 lied about his account being sold in an effort to get his negative trust removed, although this claim was quickly disproven.

lol why would anyone have trusted dznuts85 with an escrow? Anyways I agree QS does good for the community! Thanks for all the efforts in busting these scammers.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 13, 2015, 05:39:12 AM

May I ask what the OP has done though? He's clearly been found to have those alts but what have these accounts done? Scammed people or what?

The OP is an alt of yenzae0215, and dznuts85. yenzae0215 defaulted on a loan in March from MadZ, and dznuts85 took money from girlbtc.com to manage their signature campaign but instantly ran away with the funds. It should also be noted that dznuts85 lied about his account being sold in an effort to get his negative trust removed, although this claim was quickly disproven.

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Looks like there's been some pretty good investigative work done by Quickseller here. The only thing he's ever done wrong that I disagree with is tspacepilot-gate. But he's proved his worth to the community again here. Well done QS & tough luck OP.

May I ask what the OP has done though? He's clearly been found to have those alts but what have these accounts done? Scammed people or what?

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 13, 2015, 12:16:51 AM

yenzae0215 claimed that an address that was posted by him belonged to coins.ph, and that was a lie. Since you are yenzae0215, and you knew that address does not belong to coins.ph, you know it is a lie, and I know it is a lie because I know which addresses belong to coins.ph

incase you really dont know and only "acting" you know everything

take a look

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Quote from: Hexcoin on August 13, 2015, 12:26:46 AM

pls dont join here, you aren't needed here GTFO

Is it that you really think you're going to be able to talk your way out of this or is it that your ego cannot accept defeat?

~BCX~

why would i accept it? im not the right guy for this accusation Tongue

pls. we dont need scumbags here. just let us settle this thing

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 13, 2015, 12:16:51 AM

Quote from: Hexcoin on August 13, 2015, 12:05:18 AM

i would accept that evidence you are saying if my and his address both are used to send coins and not only me sending coins to him!

Why would you accept evidence if you are not really an alt of dznuts85? I think you should just admit to being the same person as dznuts85 and stop embarrassing yourself.

Quote from: Hexcoin on August 13, 2015, 12:08:30 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on August 12, 2015, 11:45:13 PM

and we both know that yenzae0215 lied about using coins.ph.

and what do you mean by this?

yenzae0215 claimed that an address that was posted by him belonged to coins.ph, and that was a lie. Since you are yenzae0215, and you knew that address does not belong to coins.ph, you know it is a lie, and I know it is a lie because I know which addresses belong to coins.ph

@QS

Like you said, don't give him any more info that will make him better in the future.

You busted him, do a victory dance and ignore the ass clown.

~BCX~

pls dont join here, you aren't needed here GTFO

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 13, 2015, 12:16:51 AM

yenzae0215 claimed that an address that was posted by him belonged to coins.ph, and that was a lie. Since you are yenzae0215, and you knew that address does not belong to coins.ph, you know it is a lie, and (a)I know it is a lie because I know which addresses belong to coins.ph

why not send an email to coins.ph and ask them if the address yenzae0215 posted is from there or not?

im willing to give you bitcoins if you are correct

i swear to God you are fucking wrong and accept it that you judged me the wrong way

)

or maybe you want me to send them an email and give you my email and password so you can check the reply from them?

)

my cousin only use coins.ph as his wallet AFAIK

(a) you know? really? the addresses starting with 3? they just started using address starting from 3 about 1 - 2 months ago if im not wrong

just send them an email and you will know you are wrong here

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Quote from: Hexcoin on August 13, 2015, 12:05:18 AM

i would accept that evidence you are saying if my and his address both are used to send coins and not only me sending coins to him!

Why would you accept evidence if you are not really an alt of dznuts85? I think you should just admit to being the same person as dznuts85 and stop embarrassing yourself.

Quote from: Hexcoin on August 13, 2015, 12:08:30 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on August 12, 2015, 11:45:13 PM

and we both know that yenzae0215 lied about using coins.ph.

and what do you mean by this?

yenzae0215 claimed that an address that was posted by him belonged to coins.ph, and that was a lie. Since you are yenzae0215, and you knew that address does not belong to coins.ph, you know it is a lie, and I know it is a lie because I know which addresses belong to coins.ph

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 12, 2015, 11:45:13 PM

and we both know that yenzae0215 lied about using coins.ph.

and what do you mean by this?

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blockchain evidence? wtf. do you even give time to read the thread i gave to you? or you want further explanation that yenzae is really my cousin? do you want me to explain that filipinos are really close to their relatives unlike in other country? we have different cultures and dont expect us to be like you. wtf blockchain evidence, post it here. how can this things fixed if you dont want to cooperate? fuck that bullshit. you only know how to accuse people because of the blockchain? so you mean all senders to my cousins address is owned my a scammer or his alt? wtf is that reason. isnt it kiddie reason?

i would accept that evidence you are saying if my and his address both are used to send coins and not only me sending coins to him!

so if i send some coins to you, you become my alt? WTF!

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Correct me if I am wrong but isn't this referred to as a "Slam Dunk"?

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Look, we both know that you are actually dznuts85, and we both know that yenzae0215 lied about using coins.ph.

I have examined the evidence closely, as well as the screenshot you provided me regarding your claim that you purchased the account, and I can say with certainty that you are the same person as dznuts85/yenzae0215. There is concrete blockchain evidence that is not explainable and publicly available information confirms that you are the same person as who the blockchain evidence makes you out to be.

The reason for not posting the evidence is because I do not wish to disclose how you will be able to avoid detection in the future. Although this is not a practice that I prefer to engage in, the last serial scammer was eventually able to get much better at avoiding detection later on as more of his alts were outed along with evidence posted proving they are the same person.

Although, since you did not stipulate the format that you want the evidence posted in, I will post it below:

Code:

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i sent you both a PM nicely asking for the proof of your accusation about me

can i ask here the "valid" evidence that i am dznuts85/yenzae0215's alt?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/probable-alt-of-yenzae0215-1108209

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