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Quote from: YellowSwap on March 24, 2022, 02:10:07 AM

True, there will never be an ETH killer in this space, every coin have its boundary no matter how good they are, there are many ETH competitive but taking over this ETH will be near impossible to accomplish.

There's no literally ETH Killer project since Ethereum is an established blockchain is pioneer of the smart contract technology. But ETH Killer which many claiming just really mean that the new blockchain project feature is much better on Ethereum, I strongly that this is what ETH killer word really means. Ethereum technology is already behind by many project in terms of TPS and transaction value. Ethereum is just like BTC that will be always on top because they are first mover in crypto and nothing more or less than that title since there feature is very common with other altcoins out there. Only the reputation is the difference.

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True, there will never be an ETH killer in this space, every coin have its boundary no matter how good they are, there are many ETH competitive but taking over this ETH will be near impossible to accomplish.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

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Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

Ethereum killer, this is the ICO trend of 2017 for raising capital from similar projects. Today, all ecosystems work through various bridges, and no one needs to kill competitors.

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The sad part is that there are a lot of people who still thinks that it is "their" project that will kill ETH as well. If you ask people who support AVAX, they will say that their system is better and they should be above ETH in the future, if you ask that to SOL investors they will tell it about their coin, ask it to polygon and even they will say the same thing, or dot, or matic, whatever basically.

All in all, there is really nothing that you could do and change the views of these people. But at the end of the day, we are not really believing that they could be getting that much thing right, by that logic we would need ETH out of top 5 to squeeze in all of those coins.

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Quote from: Odusko on March 19, 2022, 04:19:48 PM

I see such projects copycats who want to gain popularity using ethereum name and trying to bring down the building hosting them is an unrealistic quest,

They are doing bad campaign for sure. this bad campaign has been running by a very loyal supporters of another project. We do know that anyone willing to make some money from the market and they are doing this as the fast way to attract the more investors to come soon. You must also remember that if almost all of projects have supporters with bad attitude like that. I can't deny the fact that if these supporters are always saying the bad thing about another project while they didn't even realize if their project have some disadvatage as well. The only best solution to leave any bad campaign like that.
The purpose of these campaign to attract more users to join.

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It is impossible that people can kill Ethereum, this ecosystem is quite large and growing rapidly now, even the beginning I know Crypto Ethereum has been here, with so stable use, instead of killing the ethereum to love them just very difficult now, almost all The good project that I see is more trusting the Ethereum smart contract, this is why users must use them, so Ethereum will continue to be needed and it is difficult to raise

Ethereum has been a good trend thanks to its smart contracts in the past so many tokens were born from new projects in the past although not all of them are still surviving now, but in general there are still very many projects that are sticking with Ethereum smart contracts at this time so it is very difficult to kill Ethereum by any means now.

yes right, that's why this ecosystem is very developed until now, because many big projects involve them in development, it will be very difficult to get rid of the ethereum network which is already so large, imagine that ethereum is currently able to place itself in the second best after bitcoin, so how is it possible This ecosystem is just getting rid of

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It is impossible that people can kill Ethereum, this ecosystem is quite large and growing rapidly now, even the beginning I know Crypto Ethereum has been here, with so stable use, instead of killing the ethereum to love them just very difficult now, almost all The good project that I see is more trusting the Ethereum smart contract, this is why users must use them, so Ethereum will continue to be needed and it is difficult to raise

Ethereum has been a good trend thanks to its smart contracts in the past so many tokens were born from new projects in the past although not all of them are still surviving now, but in general there are still very many projects that are sticking with Ethereum smart contracts at this time so it is very difficult to kill Ethereum by any means now.

for now Ethereum competitors are Polkadot, Polygon, and Binance, because the expensive ethereum gas fees make users switch to blockchains that have cheap fees,
for example the three networks, but to beat Ethereum I think it will take a long time, especially now that the team from Ethereum also will not stay silent,
they will switch to the POS network and of course Gas fees will also be reduced.

for competition allows them to do, as long as there are changes from competitors that are offered to users, although we know today there are other networks that are so cheap when compared to ethereum, but to replace them is not an easy matter, because this ecosystem has developed long before the three of them , and for now ethereum is still in a big usage

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Quote from: kojektea on March 19, 2022, 10:03:43 AM

Ethereum is very powerful. Even from a few years ago what they said that they would be the 'eth killer' in fact they were just talk.
I'm sure there are many coins that want to replace ethereum from 2017 until now, they think ethereum is worthy to be replaced, in fact they themselves can't afford the extreme market conditions.
So far, ethereum is not only good fundamentally, but it can survive the market weather in any condition, by occupying the 2nd position in coinmarketcap I think it is very difficult to turn off eth.

There have been plenty of situations where a new and emerging coin or even tokens ended up named "eth killer" but we have all seen them die. Most recently, BCH was the "new bitcoin" according to so many people, it is nowhere to be found right now. Remind you, this was a coin that worked itself all the way to third spot and worked its way to beat ETH at one point.

Now, it is not even in top 10 anymore, maybe out of top 20 already I do not know. Which is why I believe that people should never be hyped about emerging coins right now. ADA, SOL, DOT, MATIC, AVAX all are "good" coins, but to be an ETH killer is not easy as being good, you are going to be sustainable as well.

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Because their technology is way ahead or more comprehensive than eth. But its not that simple, since eth proven its platform with such huge user base while thosr new project are yet to be adopted by many users. Yes there are some interesting platform faster and even have more feature and considrable scalability.

But I could say it would took a lot of years before any L1 surpass eth or maybe never will.

The truth is ETH won't stay at one place for many years to come this is why a new project will find it harder to catch up with ETH, many projects are better than Bitcoin but people don't care, all community still loves and support Bitcoin more than any other, the same will happen with ETH.

In deed, Ethereum has the advantage of first mover but it is also most decentralized currency after Bitcoin did contribute a lot for crypto industry by creating strong use case and that's why it has won the confidence of the crypto Investors . There are many good chains introduced during the past years like SOLANA, LUNA, DOT, ADA and AVALANCHE but they need to do a lot more to compete with Ethereum.

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There has never been anything like eth killer and there won't be, no matter how similar a project may look there will always be a distinctive difference between them. Besides, eth is already an established project with great utility, most projects evm (ethereum virtual machine) are base on eth network so how can they kill it?

It is pointless to think so, people who like to refer to these projects as eth killer are just making things up, even with high gas fees, no project has been able to replace eth, bsc may offer similar service and low gas fees but it isn't eth, till now eth network still have the highest dApps built in the network and most high quality projects are base on the network.
I think by now it should be clear that eth can't be replaced.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

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Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

I have to agree with you with this one.

I think that ETH is here to stay, it is the hub of innovation going into the future, and there is no signs of that stopping any time soon.

A lot of the new chains that have come out are based on the EVM anyway, and therefore when ETH2.0 comes out there will be a lot of redundant blockchains out there that will go to zero. It may be worth investing in a few DAG coins though as they are fundamentally different to ETH.

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Thought of the same too. With the hype they are giving each upcoming 'Ethereum killer', they are inadvertently making sure that Ethereum is the best by ascribing a certain indomitable aura on it

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I see such projects copycats who want to gain popularity using ethereum name and trying to bring down the building hosting them is an unrealistic quest, ethereum has become the mother of all altcoins, and any project focusing on bringing ethereum down will have to outperform ethereum in terms of blockchain service that the ethereum blockchain provides. And I don't think that will be easy to come by.

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When will you people stop complaining about expensive transactions? Ethereum by itself is expensive altcoin. Get used to paying a lot. It is faster than Bitcoin. Current transaction fee is about 20-30 gwei, which is about few dollars per transaction. Is this a lot? 15$ for uniswap - compared to +150$, that does not look expensive either. It looks like people are loosing interest in NFT, meme coins and metaverse. As soon as they die, Ethereum transaction will become even more cheaper.

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I look from which side to look at, if you look from the point of view of price, then this is far away, but at the expense of transaction speed, scalability and much more, ETH has long been behind, it is ahead of such as Binance chain polygon, solana.And as for the price, it's a matter of time.

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It is impossible that people can kill Ethereum, this ecosystem is quite large and growing rapidly now, even the beginning I know Crypto Ethereum has been here, with so stable use, instead of killing the ethereum to love them just very difficult now, almost all The good project that I see is more trusting the Ethereum smart contract, this is why users must use them, so Ethereum will continue to be needed and it is difficult to raise

Ethereum has been a good trend thanks to its smart contracts in the past so many tokens were born from new projects in the past although not all of them are still surviving now, but in general there are still very many projects that are sticking with Ethereum smart contracts at this time so it is very difficult to kill Ethereum by any means now.

for now Ethereum competitors are Polkadot, Polygon, and Binance, because the expensive ethereum gas fees make users switch to blockchains that have cheap fees,
for example the three networks, but to beat Ethereum I think it will take a long time, especially now that the team from Ethereum also will not stay silent,
they will switch to the POS network and of course Gas fees will also be reduced.

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Expect to see more of this fanatic in the next few years and as we know, this has happened before on bitcoin as well, when they were comparing it to XRP, Monero, and other similar coins but not single one of them surpass bitcoin in any way rather they were just staying in the lower part of the market where bitcoin is the real deal. Right now we see every single token that has its own network, competing with Ethereum and claiming to be the next to the throne which doesn't really make sense until they also have some solid platform to support and developers to support their claims.

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Quote from: the ghabbar on March 19, 2022, 09:23:33 AM

It is impossible that people can kill Ethereum, this ecosystem is quite large and growing rapidly now, even the beginning I know Crypto Ethereum has been here, with so stable use, instead of killing the ethereum to love them just very difficult now, almost all The good project that I see is more trusting the Ethereum smart contract, this is why users must use them, so Ethereum will continue to be needed and it is difficult to raise

Ethereum has been a good trend thanks to its smart contracts in the past so many tokens were born from new projects in the past although not all of them are still surviving now, but in general there are still very many projects that are sticking with Ethereum smart contracts at this time so it is very difficult to kill Ethereum by any means now.

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Ethereum is very powerful. Even from a few years ago what they said that they would be the 'eth killer' in fact they were just talk.
I'm sure there are many coins that want to replace ethereum from 2017 until now, they think ethereum is worthy to be replaced, in fact they themselves can't afford the extreme market conditions.
So far, ethereum is not only good fundamentally, but it can survive the market weather in any condition, by occupying the 2nd position in coinmarketcap I think it is very difficult to turn off eth.

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Quote from: Cosmic Beyonders on March 19, 2022, 09:16:30 AM

Well ETH will be always ETH don't forget SOL Blockchain was considered ETH killer it can't even Took down the pressure of a project pre-sale transection SOL Blockchain gone down. But I am only waiting for ETH 2.0 All ETH killers will be RIP.

My Point is We never seen any issue in transection except for transection fee on ETH.
Well i Like BSC,TRX,SOl,AVAX chains but they can't replace the ETH network

People have to look for an alternative in which they can save the transaction cost every time we do the transfer. While seeing BSC, SOL, etc...they got the light but this never says they will leave ETH after this. Why we can't just simply put ETH aside is that was because the ETH network is so big compared to the other platform. They are just started while ETH was already established quite a long time.

Even though we see that some traders/investors are now using other platforms, this is not enough to stop ETH from dominating the market, it is always still on the lead among altcoins.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

They said

Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

It is impossible that people can kill Ethereum, this ecosystem is quite large and growing rapidly now, even the beginning I know Crypto Ethereum has been here, with so stable use, instead of killing the ethereum to love them just very difficult now, almost all The good project that I see is more trusting the Ethereum smart contract, this is why users must use them, so Ethereum will continue to be needed and it is difficult to raise

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Quote from: S3300 on March 18, 2022, 05:33:53 AM

Who cares? People can say whatever they like but what will be will be, the thing is ETH is the first of its kind that's why it's like there will never be another like it also others don't have PoW algorithms.

Well ETH will be always ETH don't forget SOL Blockchain was considered ETH killer it can't even Took down the pressure of a project pre-sale transection SOL Blockchain gone down. But I am only waiting for ETH 2.0 All ETH killers will be RIP.

My Point is We never seen any issue in transection except for transection fee on ETH.
Well i Like BSC,TRX,SOl,AVAX chains but they can't replace the ETH network

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nothing wrong if people think like that. we know that there are currently a lot of complaints about ethereum, especially regarding fees. although at this time ethereum still maintains its reputation, but I'm sure many projects are trying to surpass ethereum at this time. well, lots of new chains out there. even today BSC is also very popular, just like ethereum. only, it hasn't been able to drop ethereum. well, I'm sure there are a lot of supporters of new projects trying to convince people that the systems of the chains they support are better than ethereum. In fact, I see that many projects are also developing their own chains.

however, they may think that way, this is the crypto world, every little thing can be big, and big things can be small. it all depends on how the project can solve people's problems. well, it's just like people think that a lot of coins can replace bitcoin. it's not wrong to think like that, but what they need to base on is whether they can do that, or not.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

They said

Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

That's their strategy to promote their altcoin but we all know ethereum is unstoppable, there is no altcoins that can beat the ethereum project.. When binance smart chain was created I thought BNB will be the Eth killer but until now still nothing happens, Eth is strong. People still use Eth even the gas is very expensive. So don't get hook of their promises, let's just accept that ethereum will never be defeated..

We really expect tough competition in the market, however, that even going to prove that ETH has been old enough to stop from dominating the market among altcoins. BNB got closer, XRP step up, but none of these two coins were able to keep the 2nd position for a long time. It was very clear to see that ETH roled the altcoins market and I don't see any project that is/are more worthy than this.
I guess, we have to stop arguing which one is the best, which is better coz at the end of the day, Ethereum will still remain on the top.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

They said

Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

That's their strategy to promote their altcoin but we all know ethereum is unstoppable, there is no altcoins that can beat the ethereum project.. When binance smart chain was created I thought BNB will be the Eth killer but until now still nothing happens, Eth is strong. People still use Eth even the gas is very expensive. So don't get hook of their promises, let's just accept that ethereum will never be defeated..

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on March 17, 2022, 04:58:39 PM

All projects want to stand out from the rest, this speculation is natural to attract investors to pay more attention to other projects under the Ethereum network. In terms of quality, it can not be compared. But there's one thing I want to compare Ethereum with, as DeathAngel put it, that is Solana. The reason is that Solana is still a trend in terms of network development, costs, and other equally great projects. This is still not enough to be a competitor to Ethereum in general, but at least investors will have more attention to Solana.

Why can you be so sure that Solana is able to compete with ETH even though we know that ETH has always accompanied the bitcoin journey even today.
Maybe because Solana is currently in the hype trend, many investors are looking at Solana.
Earlier, if you saw the growth and development of Ethereum, it has come a long way, if anyone is able to compete, it's only temporary.

When BNB was highly trendy coin in the market, mostly predicted that it will be the next Ethereum killer but it’s not happened even within the last two years although Binance achieved a big popular community after Ethereum Network and it’s happened for the larger fees on ETH chain. But i don’t expecting Solana can be ETH killer even in the future. But that's correct it’s a most growing project from the last year.

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Scientific innovations are dynamic, new things come up so long as research goes on. Ethereum is a unique innovation in the crypto space and an early coin that have attracted massive adoption. But in all these, we cannot entirely rule out a real Ethereum competitor in the far future. With innovations like speed of transactions of some coin blockchain which is a lot faster than that of Ethereum. For example, Bitgert blockchain can carry out transaction at 100,000 TPS faster than Solana (https://www.analyticsinsight.net/cardano-transaction-speed-per-second-is-250-while-bitgert-transaction-speed-is-100000-per-second-faster-than-solana-avalanche-or-matic/), while Ethereum is designed to handle 15 - 20 transactions per second, and is facing scalability issues. IMO, in the far future, some years from now, Ethereum might get a favorable competitor. Ethereum developers have to keep working to ensure Ethereum is up to date to satisfy and meet up new scientific innovations in the crypto space.

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Im familiar with this kind of FUD. Calling a project will kill another project without need to create a comparison between the various factors that were supporting their FUD. So many crazy supporters are using this trick to attract the new users to come in. I do believe these days people didn't even wanna use this kind of advertisement trick again. It seems like that more and more people are doing good promotion by create a honest comparison rather than launch a FUD campaign like that. People have no clue about what they have been talking about. Just ignore such advertisement and this may be fine for you.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

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Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

We'd rather stop thinking ETH killer, in fact, we've heard these assumptions before but there is nothing happens, ETH still exists and the gas fee is still high. We actually can't eliminate ETH on the market. Ethereum is the king of all altcoins and placing a big role in the market. People who say somedays ETH will die or collapse, honestly it was too far to get happen.

Imagine the number of ERC-20 tokens in the market, they are all relying upon ETH. And this is one reason why despite the high transaction fees, people still accumulating and using this.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

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Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

Maybe you should stop paying attention to such post, to me I think these are old talks you are bringing up, I feel people already understand there is no such thing as 'eth killer' we can all agree that different projects were created to serve different purpose in blockchain (irrespective of if they succeed or not), if there is any project that was created for the sole purpose of becoming an 'eth killer' then that project has no objective or goal and shouldn't be considered.

That term "eth killer" is made up by the community of the project and not the dev team and I don't see why people should capitalize on it and expect something to actually happen base on that.

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Quote from: takngantuk on March 18, 2022, 08:45:56 AM

Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

are you sure it will stay that way in the future?
the only thing unique about ethereum right now is that they still use POW. but if you look at the technology, I'm sure ethereum is lagging behind. so when eth has migrated to POS it will look the same. and that will make the competition even hotter, maybe ethereum will be abandoned, because they haven't been able to solve the problem of network fees even though they have switched to PoS consensus. so about the ethereum killer is not really a bullshit. solana, Avalance, and other smart contract projects could really be the ethereum killer if ethereum couldn't solve their problems.

Its true that Ethereum is a bit behind the recent altcoins. But what makes you think that Ethereum will be superseded and eliminated by Solana, Avalance?. Ethereum is working hard and converting to ETH2.0, they are not stupid enough to stand still and let other altcoins take over.
With slow processing speed and high gas fees, ETH is currently the most secure and decentralized ecosystem. ETH remains the top choice of developers and large institutions.
Solana and new ecosystems have left some decentralization in exchange for transaction speed. This would be very risky for the users, I remember correctly the SOL network went offline for 17 consecutive hours in 2021 and forced them to restart the whole system.

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Ethereum killer is a marketing term coined by a new blockchain platform to create hype
Although they offer a solution to one or more of the shortcomings of Ethereum, this term is more of a marketing strategy
Competitors will continue to use this term to undermine Ethereum's popularity
Ethereum killer, Doge killer, etc. lol

Whatever the condition, Ethereum is still the best altcoin.
Ethereum is the market leader in smart contracts

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The more people introduce "Ethereum killer" the more Bitcoin becomes strong, lol. It is already proven earlier, with the popularity of Layer 1 networks recently, Binance Smart Chain started then followed by others like Solana, AVAX, and others, it only shows how Ethereum is strong.

I can consider those are only Ethereum alternatives, they will not replace or kill Ethereum though. Ethereum for me will stay just like Bitcoin, it's already proven through the years after Bitcoin.

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Quote from: takngantuk on March 18, 2022, 08:45:56 AM

Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

are you sure it will stay that way in the future?
the only thing unique about ethereum right now is that they still use POW. but if you look at the technology, I'm sure ethereum is lagging behind. so when eth has migrated to POS it will look the same. and that will make the competition even hotter, maybe ethereum will be abandoned, because they haven't been able to solve the problem of network fees even though they have switched to PoS consensus. so about the ethereum killer is not really a bullshit. solana, Avalance, and other smart contract projects could really be the ethereum killer if ethereum couldn't solve their problems.

Another smart contract like Solana and what else is never get kill Ethererum because of different causes, as we can see whereas those have reduced fee from eth, but still eth gained a big volume market even if have a high fee, this is about trust, people believe eth since long time ago so hard to move another altcoin.

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Quote from: kaya11 on March 18, 2022, 07:56:35 PM

It is just for attention and to gain followers. They don't mean it and just want to pump the prices of their coin. old or new ones. There are many alts that uses eth network, it is adding up daily and this is not the case for others that you have listed. Just look how the gas prices in eth is, and even in that case it is still used by others.

They were successful in crowdfunding due to it. EOS was one of the projects I once tried investing in because of it, I tend to buy more because already after just months the prices went skyrocketing then came 2018 bear and everyone jump shift. Now only a fool will keep holding because a new hyped ETH killer comes.

Solana I think became a success already, hard enough to break walls but it got to where it is right now. The old ETH killer didn't even get the kind of price.

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It is just for attention and to gain followers. They don't mean it and just want to pump the prices of their coin. old or new ones. There are many alts that uses eth network, it is adding up daily and this is not the case for others that you have listed. Just look how the gas prices in eth is, and even in that case it is still used by others.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

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Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

There are Solana, Polkadot, Binance Smart Chain, Polygon are gaining popularity with developers and projects because of the inefficiency of Ethereum to meet up with the demand and the transaction charges are really high and if you are looking for speculative rally in terms of price then you need to wait to see huge investments coming into these mentioned projects.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

So far, that is only the way they promote and make the new projects as competitors of Ethereum higher and higher. Although some older projects that want to compete with Ethereum, cannot. Although we know that sometimes, the projects serve better services, speeds, and also low fees, in fact,they cannot still beat Ethereum.
There is only a few approaches but not killing, like Binance or BNB, they are competing, but not killing for now... Just let it be, let others there with their pross and cons.

Remember before the rise of claim of ethereum killers, there were a lot of old projects claiming to be bitcoin killers? But where are they now? Most of them are dead and forgotten. But when it comes to eth competitors, at least they are trying to survive in this market. Just look at BSC, SOL, MATIC - they are pretty solid platforms that are already up and running offering cheaper fees. But surpassing ETH network is still far. And once ETH resolved their gas fee problem, I believe people will go back again to this network. But at least, with the rise of its competitors comes other alternatives for crypto users.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

So far, that is only the way they promote and make the new projects as competitors of Ethereum higher and higher. Although some older projects that want to compete with Ethereum, cannot. Although we know that sometimes, the projects serve better services, speeds, and also low fees, in fact,they cannot still beat Ethereum.
There is only a few approaches but not killing, like Binance or BNB, they are competing, but not killing for now... Just let it be, let others there with their pross and cons.

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as many have said it’s just marketing words no need sweating over it that much because these kind of things are the ones thats gonna be attract most of investment because it could make the masses think as if this project that’s being called ETH killers gonna be
the next big thing that could get them good ROI in the long term even though that’s just a false expectation.
as you can said, there are many of the altcoins being said as an ETH killers and at the end of the day they just become another generic smart contract platforms that is subpar compared with ETH, that could be the case for future smart contract projects that gonna be emerging and calling themselves ETH killer, surely it was caused by the huge gap of market capitalization

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There are always coins that want to compete with Ethereum which is the best coin after bitcoin, and whatever the reason, even if it has many advantages or is able to outperform Ethereum's shortcomings, in the end it will still not bring Ethereum down.
Ethereum is the oldest coin that has the largest market cap after bitcoin and is also trusted, even if there are new and good coins and want to own it they will still own Ethereum for the long term and another reason they only take advantage of the hype for short term gains. Because for the long term Ethereum is the best.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

are you sure it will stay that way in the future?
the only thing unique about ethereum right now is that they still use POW. but if you look at the technology, I'm sure ethereum is lagging behind. so when eth has migrated to POS it will look the same. and that will make the competition even hotter, maybe ethereum will be abandoned, because they haven't been able to solve the problem of network fees even though they have switched to PoS consensus. so about the ethereum killer is not really a bullshit. solana, Avalance, and other smart contract projects could really be the ethereum killer if ethereum couldn't solve their problems.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

That will be as long as Ethereum is the quasi-standard for Web3 and smart contracts. Because it's a good advertising tool to say that our project is the next Ethereum killer. I wouldn't give a damn about such statements anymore, because since 2015 there have been quite a few Ethereum killers and none of them came close to the popularity of Ethereum.

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Everyone wants and hope for a new ETH like project so as to fulfil their dreams and desires of becoming a millionaire in the crypto space, this is normally something anyone can hope for but the reality is ETH is more favourable by adopters and whales than new smart contract projects.

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Don't hear them who always said like that. They are trapped in their dream to become the next rich guy in crypto. This FUD will always appear when some supporters are thinking their project was even superior to the another but the fact was telling the opposite thing if their project can't even beat the major project. I have been seeing people were saying that since ethereum got famous and another blockchain which was placed below ethereum already felt jealous with it, especially their supporters.
that's why they are doing it to make newbies are joining with their community.

Just ignore them and that's enough. You are wasting your time if you're still giving feedback for any garbage speculation like that.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on March 18, 2022, 05:43:37 AM

Because their technology is way ahead or more comprehensive than eth. But its not that simple, since eth proven its platform with such huge user base while thosr new project are yet to be adopted by many users. Yes there are some interesting platform faster and even have more feature and considrable scalability.

But I could say it would took a lot of years before any L1 surpass eth or maybe never will.

The truth is ETH won't stay at one place for many years to come this is why a new project will find it harder to catch up with ETH, many projects are better than Bitcoin but people don't care, all community still loves and support Bitcoin more than any other, the same will happen with ETH.

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Because their technology is way ahead or more comprehensive than eth. But its not that simple, since eth proven its platform with such huge user base while thosr new project are yet to be adopted by many users. Yes there are some interesting platform faster and even have more feature and considrable scalability.

But I could say it would took a lot of years before any L1 surpass eth or maybe never will.

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Who cares? People can say whatever they like but what will be will be, the thing is ETH is the first of its kind that's why it's like there will never be another like it also others don't have PoW algorithms.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up?

so far in which part you talking about ETH killer ? transaction speed and fee or anything else ? if you talking about it i am believe solana bsc and matic have it. daily transaction amount also very high and it enough to said as eth killer. but we must accept another point that how this killer overcome network while traffic full.

Quote from: Tony116 on March 17, 2022, 10:07:22 PM

To Solana or other ecosystems like Near, Avalanche… has fast transaction speed and cheap gas fees, these ecosystems have given up some decentralization to get the above. This goes against decentralized blockchain technology, this will make Solana very susceptible to sudden shutdown affecting the user experience.

even network traffic on solana could shutown due its uses growth that significantly. maybe hathor could be best layer1 blockchain which is combine POW and DAG which is could handle unlimited transaction.

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Ambition writers might never have thought this was an upgrade competition, if they didn't stop developing the technology, neither did the Vitalik team.
In general, this marketing trick seems to be needed to get the hype sensation early in the launch. Otherwise, they will not be noticed. So don't take it seriously if you're going to hear these words "attempted murder" a thousand times in the future.

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I never expecting if replacing the top 2 coin in the crypto would be easy like what those supporters said. I think that word was coming from the supporter of a project which already heavily invested in the project that they have been shilling it. that's why they are still saying that if their project will be replacing ethereum nor become ethereum killer at the same time. People have no clue about that but the sad thing is so many people are falling for that. I remember that even some scam projects were also shilling their tokens like that. That's why if it's better just to ignore all of them.
This will be enough and they will be bored by shilling their investment anytime.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

They said

Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

True. The history of Ethereum vindicates that despite higher transaction fee on its network, no other block chain has performed so well as Ethereum did despite tall claims of killing Ethereum, when I compared the total funds locked on Ethereum which stands today around 116 billion dollars, no other block chain is even closer to it, the 2nd one is Terra Luna where $25 Billion are locked. This reelects the confidence of Investors in Ethereum network which is outstanding because of its strongest use case.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on March 17, 2022, 04:37:01 PM

SOLANA is the successor to ETH, you will see over the next couple of years. ETH failed badly to get anywhere even close to bitcoin. SOLANA will flippen ETH in 2025. There is still a place for ETH but not as number 2 to bitcoin for long.

To Solana or other ecosystems like Near, Avalanche… has fast transaction speed and cheap gas fees, these ecosystems have given up some decentralization to get the above. This goes against decentralized blockchain technology, this will make Solana very susceptible to sudden shutdown affecting the user experience.
On September 14, 2021, the Solana network went offline for about 17 hours. Solana needs to work a lot harder if she wants to surpass ETH. but ETH is also making significant efforts to upgrade to ETH2.0
It will be an exciting race for what's to come.

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This is the most important lesson anyone could have. If you keep on investing into things in the top 20 thinking that one day it will have a bigger marketcap than ETH and that is what you base your calculations on before investing, you will be dissapointed with the results. There will be no ETH killer and there could never be one because ETH is ETH and whatever else even comes close, it will never be the same.

Focus on finding things that would be good individually, doesn't need to kill ETH. I personally like a few coins and tokens and I do not believe that they will be above ETH, but even without being there, they will be good and that is more than enough.

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Remember how many projects including ETH will overtake BTC? The fact it's still not and most likely wouldn't happen. Similar like how many new projects claimed to overtake ETH, it's only a claim and not yet happen. Probably it's possible to overtake ETH due to unlimited supply and Vitalik Buterin hold significant amount of ETH. Fess isn't the main reason to beat ETH because many people still using ETH even gas fee is high, adoptions is the main problem.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

You can talk with those who always said like that, especially for their shillers. I thought that the shillers are always saying like that to attract people to join their new ecosystem.
Don't mind them. They are getting paid to promote. that's what shiller did to another project.

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They said

Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

Yeah that's what i called that as spread FUD to take advantage of people who are always FOMOing the new project. These kinds of people are existing in the market and so many times they called the new project ethereum killers and still spreading BS. People have been fallen to the what their FUD. How stupid people can't even think the new project to be ethereum killer.
That's not gonna happen.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on March 17, 2022, 04:37:01 PM

SOLANA is the successor to ETH, you will see over the next couple of years. ETH failed badly to get anywhere even close to bitcoin. SOLANA will flippen ETH in 2025. There is still a place for ETH but not as number 2 to bitcoin for long.

As much as I want to believe on this because SOLANA is a good project too, but i still believe that ETH will remain solid on top position because most probably, it will grow as well and hoping for the upcoming updates to be more good that can help ETH network to become better. Those projects claiming before as an ETH killer is still down, they can’t kill ETH easily.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on March 17, 2022, 02:48:41 PM

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Just ignore.

It's a sales word product, the reality they can't beat and take a rank from ETH. Say that their product will be "ETH Killer" after passed ETH Rank & Volume not before that, to many sales word is not shittoken ~XD.

Just ignore it, simple.

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All projects want to stand out from the rest, this speculation is natural to attract investors to pay more attention to other projects under the Ethereum network. In terms of quality, it can not be compared. But there's one thing I want to compare Ethereum with, as DeathAngel put it, that is Solana. The reason is that Solana is still a trend in terms of network development, costs, and other equally great projects. This is still not enough to be a competitor to Ethereum in general, but at least investors will have more attention to Solana.

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SOLANA is the successor to ETH, you will see over the next couple of years. ETH failed badly to get anywhere even close to bitcoin. SOLANA will flippen ETH in 2025. There is still a place for ETH but not as number 2 to bitcoin for long.

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I do agree though, there will be no ETH killer as ETH is a prime mover. Maybe there could be competitions right now and in the future. But it doesn't mean that they are going to topple ETH, they could be as an alternative for upcoming projects because of ETH exorbitant fees. Same as what is for Bitcoin, no one can dethrone the king. But I do agree that ETH should evolve and developed specially on solving the high gas fees that everyone is complaining.

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There are some competitors like Binance coin, Tron, Algorand, Solana and many others, people can say whatever they like but normally these altcoins have a blockchain that is competing with ethereum blockchain which is normal because life is full of competition. Ethereum is the first of them, people prefer what has been existing before and find it difficult to make the ones that come later to be the dominant they are using. But ethereum needs to getting improving because there could be an altcoins that may one day come to compete and take the second position, it may look like it is not possible but very possible.

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It's getting annoying to see people talking about a project is the next Ethereum killer, for how long are we going to keep this up? So far there are so many ETH killers that haven't taken a single shot at Ethereum, this has proven that Ethereum isn't a project that any new coin or token can just take over like that, it has never been easy.

They said

Oasis Network is the next ETH killer but before it was EOS, Cardano, Chainlink, Tezos and a few more, get busy gathering these good projects and stop expecting them to be the ETH killer, not killing ETH won't stop them from becoming very useful smart contract project in this space.

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