Topic: Racism and Violence Completely Ignored by Moderator on General Discussion Board (Read 3134 times)

Quote from: SelbyTsang on July 04, 2014, 10:51:40 AM

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Premise #1: We are here to help the world by finding the best idea for every single aspect of cryptocurrency AND/OR many of us are here to get rich.
Premise #2: If you had an employee at your company leaving comments on your website with racial slurs then you would fire that person immediately without any thought given, unless you were stupid or hated making money.
Conclusion: Users that spout racial slurs, even one time, should be permanently banned from this website and every cryptocurrency website.

This is not an opinion. It is a logical fact about how you run a business. Maybe you didn't notice, but segregation ended a looooong time ago. Now go learn how to run a business and then come back and apologize for being so ignorant about the subject.

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I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban.

This forum prides itself on free speech, be it from an idiot or a genius, just like Bitcoin prides itself on economic freedom. You're suggesting to take that freedom away and give the authorities the decision making. See the problem?

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Premise #1: We are here to help the world by finding the best idea for every single aspect of cryptocurrency AND/OR many of us are here to get rich.

You forgot the main purpose of these forums: expressing your opinion about Bitcoins, cryptocurrencies and other topics without censorship.

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Premise #2: If you had an employee at your company leaving comments on your website with racial slurs then you would fire that person immediately without any thought given, unless you were stupid or hated making money.

This is not a business, it's a community based on freedom of opinion. The main purpose of the forum isn't to make money - it is to let people have discussions amongst themseleves.

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This is not an opinion. It is a logical fact about how you run a business. Maybe you didn't notice, but segregation ended a looooong time ago. Now go learn how to run a business and then come back and apologize for being so ignorant about the subject.

No, that's an opinion. A fact is something proven by evidence. Logic isn't evidence (some people think the 5 second rule for food is logical Cheesy

), clearly defined rules are. And again, not a business.

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Quote from: yayayo on July 04, 2014, 10:34:07 AM

If you browse these forums you'll find a whole sh+tload of comments that could be considered offensive, racist, violent... however I still think freedom of speech is more important than avoiding such offensive comments at all costs (of cause there are constraints which should not be exceeded - for example calls to harm/attack a specific person/group). It's better to open a discussion on such extreme hateful opinions than simply suppressing them, because otherwise they have no chance of being refuted and the underlying thoughts will still persist with the person expressing them.

This forum also has an ignore-function if you don't want to read all the garbage. Wink

ya.ya.yo!

IMHO, it is very hard to draw a line between "offensive" and "non-offensive" as everyone has a different tolerance level, and we will need 10x more mods to handle those "offensive post" reports.

I think you didn't read my statement correctly. I'm not requesting more moderation/censorship. I'm requesting more tolerance when it comes to questionable posts, because nothing is gained from suppressing such statements altogether.

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Quote from: yayayo on July 04, 2014, 10:34:07 AM

If you browse these forums you'll find a whole sh+tload of comments that could be considered offensive, racist, violent... however I still think freedom of speech is more important than avoiding such offensive comments at all costs (of cause there are constraints which should not be exceeded - for example calls to harm/attack a specific person/group). It's better to open a discussion on such extreme hateful opinions than simply suppressing them, because otherwise they have no chance of being refuted and the underlying thoughts will still persist with the person expressing them.

This forum also has an ignore-function if you don't want to read all the garbage. Wink

ya.ya.yo!

IMHO, it is very hard to draw a line between "offensive" and "non-offensive" as everyone has a different tolerance level, and we will need 10x more mods to handle those "offensive post" reports.

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If you browse these forums you'll find a whole sh+tload of comments that could be considered offensive, racist, violent... however I still think freedom of speech is more important than avoiding such offensive comments at all costs (of cause there are constraints which should not be exceeded - for example calls to harm/attack a specific person/group). It's better to open a discussion on such extreme hateful opinions than simply suppressing them, because otherwise they have no chance of being refuted and the underlying thoughts will still persist with the person expressing them.

This forum also has an ignore-function if you don't want to read all the garbage. Wink

ya.ya.yo!

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Quote from: KWH on July 01, 2014, 06:57:42 AM

Threats of violence aren't okay, I don't see any though. Being a racist is okay, though posts with strong political commentary of that sort tend to be off topic more often than not, and if it isn't off topic then the thread itself may need to be re-evaluated.

He said that he "knows a very direct way of dealing with [me]. Better yet, send [me] to the Palestinians." How you can percieve that as anything other than a non-idle violent threat is beyond reasoning.

Quote from: CoinMode on July 02, 2014, 02:53:12 AM

Grow a thicker skin, this is the internet. I am offended that you're offended, where does this madness stop? Cries of bigotry and racism are far too common and used improperly daily. This has watered down the true meaning of these words. I would rather know what a person really thinks than have them hide it behind a smile, that way you can take action such as ignore them or go to another forum. One should be able to say pretty much what they want but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences. They could be ignored and no one will trade with them.
Crying for the censor police at every harsh word is ridiculous and petty.

So you think that calling somebody from the Middle East a "shit skin" isn't racism, and even if it is, it should be fully allowed? I am not misusing the word at all, and you are encouraging very uncivilized behavior on this forum. I pray to god that at least one sane moderator sees this ..... and does something to help keep things peaceful on here. This is exactly the kind of insanity that we don't ever want to associate with cryptocurrency. That is, if you are actually here to support crypto.

This is downright shameful behavior and the responses I am getting are shameful all around.

I've been called far worse. Grow up.

Let me add to this:
"......you are encouraging very uncivilized behavior...." Offensive, you are calling me uncivilized.

"I pray to god..." Offensive. You didn't capitalize the G and you mentioned god! What does god have to do with BTC?

"......bullshit..." Cursing, again offensive!

"....at least one sane moderator...." Offensive. It implies all moderators are insane.

Do you see how this works? It never ends. You need to realize your opinion isn't the only one but you seem to think it trumps all others. You are free to join the myriad of other forums that are PC correct and happily censor all posts.

Trump! Now, I'm offended. That porridge wog eats Pizza, bitcoiner's poster food, with a fork (apologies to slant-eyes who use sticks to eat with).

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Quote from: eid on July 02, 2014, 01:48:50 AM

Quote from: eid on July 02, 2014, 01:48:50 AM

You can use the "ignore" feature.
In any case it should not be a mods job to determine what is offensive. If someone is a child-like idiotic raciest then that's their problem, not yours and mine. Let the fools talk and dig themselves into a hole. Those people don't even count anyway.

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Or they may see that this forum is run by adults who value freedom of speech; yes, freedom can be offensive at times, but if you value it you don't go running to authorities every time something offends your delicate sensibilities.

I suggest you learn to tolerate stupidity; you're likely going to encounter lots of it in this world.

"If I was trying to make money or get an idea adopted into the mainstream, I would be perfectly okay with my employees and colleagues using racial slurs like "nigger, kike, shitskin" on our website." - Every Dumb Response in This Thread

This has nothing to do with me being offended or not. I get it now. You are not smart enough to understand the repercussions of using the word "nigger" or language in general. You idiots sure are making the Central Banks happy right now. With "bitcoiners" like you, who needs shills?

I also suggest you learn to express your ideas without resorting to personal insults.

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You can use the "ignore" feature.
In any case it should not be a mods job to determine what is offensive. If someone is a child-like idiotic raciest then that's their problem, not yours and mine. Let the fools talk and dig themselves into a hole. Those people don't even count anyway.

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Or they may see that this forum is run by adults who value freedom of speech; yes, freedom can be offensive at times, but if you value it you don't go running to authorities every time something offends your delicate sensibilities.

I suggest you learn to tolerate stupidity; you're likely going to encounter lots of it in this world.

"If I was trying to make money or get an idea adopted into the mainstream, I would be perfectly okay with my employees and colleagues using racial slurs like "nigger, kike, shitskin" on our website." - Every Dumb Response in This Thread

This has nothing to do with me being offended or not. I get it now. You are not smart enough to understand the repercussions of using the word "nigger" or language in general. You idiots sure are making the Central Banks happy right now. With "bitcoiners" like you, who needs shills?

eid

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You can use the "ignore" feature.
In any case it should not be a mods job to determine what is offensive. If someone is a child-like idiotic raciest then that's their problem, not yours and mine. Let the fools talk and dig themselves into a hole. Those people don't even count anyway.

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Or they may see that this forum is run by adults who value freedom of speech; yes, freedom can be offensive at times, but if you value it you don't go running to authorities every time something offends your delicate sensibilities.

I suggest you learn to tolerate stupidity; you're likely going to encounter lots of it in this world.

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Quote from: grue on July 01, 2014, 05:44:12 PM

You can use the "ignore" feature.
In any case it should not be a mods job to determine what is offensive. If someone is a child-like idiotic raciest then that's their problem, not yours and mine. Let the fools talk and dig themselves into a hole. Those people don't even count anyway.

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Premise #1: We are here to help the world by finding the best idea for every single aspect of cryptocurrency AND/OR many of us are here to get rich.
Premise #2: If you had an employee at your company leaving comments on your website with racial slurs then you would fire that person immediately without any thought given, unless you were stupid or hated making money.
Conclusion: Users that spout racial slurs, even one time, should be permanently banned from this website and every cryptocurrency website.

This is not an opinion. It is a logical fact about how you run a business. Maybe you didn't notice, but segregation ended a looooong time ago. Now go learn how to run a business and then come back and apologize for being so ignorant about the subject.

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Quote from: CoinMode on July 01, 2014, 03:04:09 PM

You have admitted that you don't care if a bitcoin forum is free from racial slurs like "shit skin", "nigger", or "kike". Obviously, you should be banned and have no idea how to keep a forum civilized and inviting. I honestly never thought this place would allow this disgusting behavior. Unfortunately, it appears it has been infiltrated by some nefarious group.

I wonder who could be behind this?

People is saying mean things and moderators won't do anything about it! That must mean that the forum has been infiltrated by them and all of this is orchestrated by a cabal of (jews|palestinians|arabs).

You not getting your Illuminati payroll checks?

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You can use the "ignore" feature.
In any case it should not be a mods job to determine what is offensive. If someone is a child-like idiotic raciest then that's their problem, not yours and mine. Let the fools talk and dig themselves into a hole. Those people don't even count anyway.

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Quote from: CoinMode on July 01, 2014, 03:04:09 PM

You have admitted that you don't care if a bitcoin forum is free from racial slurs like "shit skin", "nigger", or "kike". Obviously, you should be banned and have no idea how to keep a forum civilized and inviting. I honestly never thought this place would allow this disgusting behavior. Unfortunately, it appears it has been infiltrated by some nefarious group.

I wonder who could be behind this?

People is saying mean things and moderators won't do anything about it! That must mean that the forum has been infiltrated by them and all of this is orchestrated by a cabal of (jews|palestinians|arabs).

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Quote from: KWH on July 01, 2014, 12:54:46 PM

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I can't wait until somebody important sees this and all three of you are permanently banned.

Good luck with that. You obviously know what is best for everyone. What's next? Are you going to tell me how much power I need for mining or I can't turn my A/C below 80?
While I await the impending banning, I will exercise my ignore button.

You have admitted that you don't care if a bitcoin forum is free from racial slurs like "shit skin", "nigger", or "kike". Obviously, you should be banned and have no idea how to keep a forum civilized and inviting. I honestly never thought this place would allow this disgusting behavior. Unfortunately, it appears it has been infiltrated by some nefarious group.

I wonder who could be behind this?

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Even if it's barbaric, it's not illegal and you can't be banned for it. Just click the 'ignore' button, or, go to Zoklet and see how bad it is over there.

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I can't wait until somebody important sees this and all three of you are permanently banned.

Good luck with that. You obviously know what is best for everyone. What's next? Are you going to tell me how much power I need for mining or I can't turn my A/C below 80?
While I await the impending banning, I will exercise my ignore button.

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You can always use Ignore button for racist people.

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Quote from: BadBear on July 01, 2014, 07:22:08 AM

Threats of violence aren't okay, I don't see any though. Being a racist is okay, though posts with strong political commentary of that sort tend to be off topic more often than not, and if it isn't off topic then the thread itself may need to be re-evaluated.

He said that he "knows a very direct way of dealing with [me]. Better yet, send [me] to the Palestinians." How you can percieve that as anything other than a non-idle violent threat is beyond reasoning.

Grow a thicker skin, this is the internet. I am offended that you're offended, where does this madness stop? Cries of bigotry and racism are far too common and used improperly daily. This has watered down the true meaning of these words. I would rather know what a person really thinks than have them hide it behind a smile, that way you can take action such as ignore them or go to another forum. One should be able to say pretty much what they want but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences. They could be ignored and no one will trade with them.
Crying for the censor police at every harsh word is ridiculous and petty.

So you think that calling somebody from the Middle East a "shit skin" isn't racism, and even if it is, it should be fully allowed? I am not misusing the word at all, and you are encouraging very uncivilized behavior on this forum. I pray to god that at least one sane moderator sees this bullshit and does something to help keep things peaceful on here. This is exactly the kind of insanity that we don't ever want to associate with cryptocurrency. That is, if you are actually here to support crypto.

This is downright shameful behavior and the responses I am getting are shameful all around.

I do support crypto, I also support people's rights to express themselves. No, I don't particularly like what he says or agree with it. Doesn't mean he can't say it. Being intolerant of intolerant people just justifies their beliefs and drags you down to their level.

"Hmm, I think I want to learn more about bitcoin. Maybe I'll go and check out some of the forums and hear what people are saying about it."

"Go screw yourself you kike nigger. I hope you get dealt with one way or another."

Yeah, that is going to leave a REALLY good impression with people who visit this website. Can a sane moderator please step in help to regain some civil discourse on this site? You "hero" members are making bitcoin look horrible right now.

To the other moron, I never said to ban people because somebody was being offended. Nice way to divert the argument. You might as well try to argue that people using racial slurs on here doesn't make bitcoin or cryptos look bad at all. Oh wait, you just did.

I can't wait until somebody important sees this and all three of you are permanently banned.

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I agree.
the racism should be stopped. some of the comments said by hero members constantly is pathetic.
people should only say things on the internet they would only say in real life.
i no 100% the racist scum here would not say a word in real life off the internet.

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Threats of violence aren't okay, I don't see any though. Being a racist is okay, though posts with strong political commentary of that sort tend to be off topic more often than not, and if it isn't off topic then the thread itself may need to be re-evaluated.

He said that he "knows a very direct way of dealing with [me]. Better yet, send [me] to the Palestinians." How you can percieve that as anything other than a non-idle violent threat is beyond reasoning.

Grow a thicker skin, this is the internet. I am offended that you're offended, where does this madness stop? Cries of bigotry and racism are far too common and used improperly daily. This has watered down the true meaning of these words. I would rather know what a person really thinks than have them hide it behind a smile, that way you can take action such as ignore them or go to another forum. One should be able to say pretty much what they want but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences. They could be ignored and no one will trade with them.
Crying for the censor police at every harsh word is ridiculous and petty.

So you think that calling somebody from the Middle East a "shit skin" isn't racism, and even if it is, it should be fully allowed? I am not misusing the word at all, and you are encouraging very uncivilized behavior on this forum. I pray to god that at least one sane moderator sees this bullshit and does something to help keep things peaceful on here. This is exactly the kind of insanity that we don't ever want to associate with cryptocurrency. That is, if you are actually here to support crypto.

This is downright shameful behavior and the responses I am getting are shameful all around.

I do support crypto, I also support people's rights to express themselves. No, I don't particularly like what he says or agree with it. Doesn't mean he can't say it. Being intolerant of intolerant people just justifies their beliefs and drags you down to their level.

KWH

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Threats of violence aren't okay, I don't see any though. Being a racist is okay, though posts with strong political commentary of that sort tend to be off topic more often than not, and if it isn't off topic then the thread itself may need to be re-evaluated.

He said that he "knows a very direct way of dealing with [me]. Better yet, send [me] to the Palestinians." How you can percieve that as anything other than a non-idle violent threat is beyond reasoning.

Grow a thicker skin, this is the internet. I am offended that you're offended, where does this madness stop? Cries of bigotry and racism are far too common and used improperly daily. This has watered down the true meaning of these words. I would rather know what a person really thinks than have them hide it behind a smile, that way you can take action such as ignore them or go to another forum. One should be able to say pretty much what they want but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences. They could be ignored and no one will trade with them.
Crying for the censor police at every harsh word is ridiculous and petty.

So you think that calling somebody from the Middle East a "shit skin" isn't racism, and even if it is, it should be fully allowed? I am not misusing the word at all, and you are encouraging very uncivilized behavior on this forum. I pray to god that at least one sane moderator sees this ..... and does something to help keep things peaceful on here. This is exactly the kind of insanity that we don't ever want to associate with cryptocurrency. That is, if you are actually here to support crypto.

This is downright shameful behavior and the responses I am getting are shameful all around.

I've been called far worse. Grow up.

Let me add to this:
"......you are encouraging very uncivilized behavior...." Offensive, you are calling me uncivilized.

"I pray to god..." Offensive. You didn't capitalize the G and you mentioned god! What does god have to do with BTC?

"......bullshit..." Cursing, again offensive!

"....at least one sane moderator...." Offensive. It implies all moderators are insane.

Do you see how this works? It never ends. You need to realize your opinion isn't the only one but you seem to think it trumps all others. You are free to join the myriad of other forums that are PC correct and happily censor all posts.

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Threats of violence aren't okay, I don't see any though. Being a racist is okay, though posts with strong political commentary of that sort tend to be off topic more often than not, and if it isn't off topic then the thread itself may need to be re-evaluated.

He said that he "knows a very direct way of dealing with [me]. Better yet, send [me] to the Palestinians." How you can percieve that as anything other than a non-idle violent threat is beyond reasoning.