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sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
January 18, 2019, 02:13:40 AM
#25
There is that as well, amd made the same thing to vega to what they are doing to radeon vii, make few thousands and jack up the price. Nvidia is the champion last year, they completely stopped supplying to retailers letting prices inflate and then crypto crashed and nvidia have thousands of chips laying around without knowing what to do with them, they could have sold each for $800 and now will have to sell each for $200-300 at most, nvidia failed hard, reason its shares/stock crashed hard, investors dont like idiotic actions.
newbie
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January 17, 2019, 08:57:56 AM
#24
Vegas have always been the best option for mining Cryptonight based coins.  At times they were even more profitable then a GTX 1080 Ti; there's a reason why they were sold out and then overpriced everywhere.  If they had stayed in stock at the original MSRP then allot more gamers would have them and have been pretty pleased with them too since they offered reasonable gaming value for their MSRP (but not the hugely overinflated crypto prices).


*For example, NVIDIA released the 1070 Ti specifically because the Vega 56 beat out the regular 1070 in it's price/performance bracket for gaming.

reason why amd would never sell radeon vii cheap, you trolls need to understand there is market for radeon 7 other than gaming and crypto mining. Actually i think amd knew its vega would sell very easily, at that time gpu was scarce and anything above rx 570 performance was selling for a thousand dollar hehe and trolls were buying it hehe

It's easy to sell your Radeon VII when you make an announcement at CES and then only make 5000 units.....
jr. member
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January 17, 2019, 02:51:49 AM
#23
Vegas have always been the best option for mining Cryptonight based coins.  At times they were even more profitable then a GTX 1080 Ti; there's a reason why they were sold out and then overpriced everywhere.  If they had stayed in stock at the original MSRP then allot more gamers would have them and have been pretty pleased with them too since they offered reasonable gaming value for their MSRP (but not the hugely overinflated crypto prices).


*For example, NVIDIA released the 1070 Ti specifically because the Vega 56 beat out the regular 1070 in it's price/performance bracket for gaming.

reason why amd would never sell radeon vii cheap, you trolls need to understand there is market for radeon 7 other than gaming and crypto mining. Actually i think amd knew its vega would sell very easily, at that time gpu was scarce and anything above rx 570 performance was selling for a thousand dollar hehe and trolls were buying it hehe

I wonder sometimes if we live in a different world. There are some trolls in mine, but you seem to meet them every second Smiley
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
January 16, 2019, 06:37:18 PM
#22
Vegas have always been the best option for mining Cryptonight based coins.  At times they were even more profitable then a GTX 1080 Ti; there's a reason why they were sold out and then overpriced everywhere.  If they had stayed in stock at the original MSRP then allot more gamers would have them and have been pretty pleased with them too since they offered reasonable gaming value for their MSRP (but not the hugely overinflated crypto prices).


*For example, NVIDIA released the 1070 Ti specifically because the Vega 56 beat out the regular 1070 in it's price/performance bracket for gaming.

reason why amd would never sell radeon vii cheap, you trolls need to understand there is market for radeon 7 other than gaming and crypto mining. Actually i think amd knew its vega would sell very easily, at that time gpu was scarce and anything above rx 570 performance was selling for a thousand dollar hehe and trolls were buying it hehe
sr. member
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January 16, 2019, 06:03:28 PM
#21
Wait...people actually CHOOSE to buy Vega's over basically any other mining card? This is news to me. I always thought they were kind of a joke.

Remember so few people mine with Vegas try to remember how long it took after they came out before any decent miners were released.

I would expect that it takes months after release before they are performing at anywhere near max capacity.

Vegas have always been the best option for mining Cryptonight based coins.  At times they were even more profitable then a GTX 1080 Ti; there's a reason why they were sold out and then overpriced everywhere.  If they had stayed in stock at the original MSRP then allot more gamers would have them and have been pretty pleased with them too since they offered reasonable gaming value for their MSRP (but not the hugely overinflated crypto prices).


*For example, NVIDIA released the 1070 Ti specifically because the Vega 56 beat out the regular 1070 in it's price/performance bracket for gaming.
legendary
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January 16, 2019, 06:05:47 AM
#20
Its specially for progpow, bandwidth hungry and eth soon will switch to progpow, radeon VII will be the king
Buy some before review came out Cool
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January 10, 2019, 07:44:43 PM
#19
The hardware is quite powerful, but much like you said they're a lot different to use and often aren't working at their maximum efficiency.
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January 10, 2019, 07:04:59 PM
#18
Wait...people actually CHOOSE to buy Vega's over basically any other mining card? This is news to me. I always thought they were kind of a joke.

Remember so few people mine with Vegas try to remember how long it took after they came out before any decent miners were released.

I would expect that it takes months after release before they are performing at anywhere near max capacity.
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Learn and Grow
January 10, 2019, 06:59:21 PM
#17
Here are the supposed specs for the card (taken from this source):

60CUs
3840 Stream Processors @ up to 1.8GHz
16GB HBM2, 4096-Bit @ 1TB/s memory bandwidth
Retail Price $699, Shipping Feb 7th

Depends what the availability of this card is and how it performs in mining. I'm not going to place any orders for this card 'till I see what it's capable of in mining, and the pricing is a bit high. It may still be more cost-effective to use older-generation cards like Vegas and Polaris cards for newer builds.

yes, you have nailed it sometimes they make all these cards look like the next big thing only to buy and get some crap of your money!!
jr. member
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January 10, 2019, 05:42:30 PM
#16
As a gamer, it doesnt seem all that great considering the price. At best it's comparable to a rtx 2080. As a miner, it looks very promising. It should be a decent upgrade over the vega 56/64. I'll be trying to get my hands on a few.
sr. member
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January 10, 2019, 03:57:37 AM
#15
I'm pretty interested in getting one for my personal desktop since it would pair nicely with my 4K monitor.  If I can subsidize part of the cost by mining that's a nice bonus of course. 

Does anyone know when the nda lifts for professional reviewers?
legendary
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January 10, 2019, 03:21:59 AM
#14
If it is 7nm there will be big improvement over Rx Vega and I expect to show really good behaviour in mining too. As far as I know 7 nm is the industry standard right now and is the best technology available. I see no reason why this card should not behave well if the specifics published will also be true in production.
sr. member
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January 10, 2019, 01:53:16 AM
#13
sr. member
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January 09, 2019, 08:04:23 PM
#12
Tb/s bandwidth. Sold.
sr. member
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January 09, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
#11
You can watch the AMD keynote live stream here:  https://www.guru3d.com/news_story/watch_the_amd_ces_2019_event_ceo_dr_lisa_su_keynote_live_stream_here.html 

I'm sure you can find it all over youtube directly as well.

Overall it's an interesting card for sure, but I think that gamers anyways would rather have just 8 GB of HBM2 for $100 less.  For miners that extra memory bandwidth is more interesting.
sr. member
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January 09, 2019, 05:53:11 PM
#10
25% more performance than Vega64 with same power consumption, this ist still Vega just in 7nm and some features are working now.
it is 7nm Vega with twice wider memory bus and higher clocks for the same wattage. It should give significant performance increase for ethereum and cryptonight variants. Especially for heavy (much mem required) algos.

Well 62% higher performance than Vega64 in opencl applications, this should give us a nice boost in mining.  Wink
legendary
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January 09, 2019, 05:40:23 PM
#9
25% more performance than Vega64 with same power consumption, this ist still Vega just in 7nm and some features are working now.
it is 7nm Vega with twice wider memory bus and higher clocks for the same wattage. It should give significant performance increase for ethereum and cryptonight variants. Especially for heavy (much mem required) algos.
sr. member
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January 09, 2019, 05:30:55 PM
#8
this don't look much impresive to me. Boosted Vega?
it has a 7nm chip, it's not a Vega definitely. power consumption shoud also decrease.

25% more performance than Vega64 with same power consumption, this ist still Vega just in 7nm and some features are working now.
jr. member
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January 09, 2019, 05:00:18 PM
#7
i think it's huge improvement.

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January 09, 2019, 04:45:57 PM
#6
this don't look much impresive to me. Boosted Vega?
it has a 7nm chip, it's not a Vega definitely. power consumption shoud also decrease.
hero member
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January 09, 2019, 04:34:35 PM
#5
62% increase in opencl performance is great, but if it costs 70% more than a Vega64, not that much greater in the end...

We'll have to see when real tests come out I guess.
jr. member
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January 09, 2019, 04:21:20 PM
#4
edit: maybe it's not that bad...as I think
legendary
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Bitcoin FTW!
January 09, 2019, 03:42:10 PM
#3
Here are the supposed specs for the card (taken from this source):

60CUs
3840 Stream Processors @ up to 1.8GHz
16GB HBM2, 4096-Bit @ 1TB/s memory bandwidth
Retail Price $699, Shipping Feb 7th

Depends what the availability of this card is and how it performs in mining. I'm not going to place any orders for this card 'till I see what it's capable of in mining, and the pricing is a bit high. It may still be more cost-effective to use older-generation cards like Vegas and Polaris cards for newer builds.
jr. member
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January 09, 2019, 03:39:56 PM
#2
this don't look much impresive to me. Boosted Vega?
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January 09, 2019, 02:55:33 PM
#1
AMD revealed the OpenCL performance of the VII was 62% better than the Vega 64  Shocked

what you think? will this new cards replace your Vega / Polaris setup?
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