Ralobot: Concerns about the dodgy nature of the owner

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Quote from: ndnh on October 18, 2015, 12:08:40 PM

https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/e22d8dfba99c523f4867d3c1df02728b22124e1744377f72f7d0158393b5a745/analysis/

BitDefender has identified the site as containing malware.
My AV blocked me from accessing the site.

Proceed at your own risk. Cool

The operator is accused of scamming $127.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11874419

Confirming that as OP said the operator is dishonest, shady and a liar.

Thanks for the info about the malware on this weird site. Regarding the issue on its operator (was kayenpal before), this new alt (ralobot) said that kayenpal is only one of his advertisers for his site (I do not believe it

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12668206

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Fixed.

https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/e22d8dfba99c523f4867d3c1df02728b22124e1744377f72f7d0158393b5a745/analysis/

BitDefender has identified the site as containing malware.
My AV blocked me from accessing the site.

Proceed at your own risk.

The operator is accused of scamming $127.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11874419

Confirming that as OP said the operator is dishonest, shady and a liar.

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Quote from: vervolioman on October 13, 2015, 02:49:22 PM

Quote from: ndnh on October 13, 2015, 02:19:55 PM

Quote from: vervolioman on October 13, 2015, 02:12:40 PM

This site was ran by https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kayenpal-511366 His ann https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/3-winners-next-3-loosers-infinity-no-luck-just-skillz-make-bitcoins-1052883 he talks/posts and acts the same I would think twice.

Good find.

Appears to be the same guy

It is the same guy ndnhc. The thing is I remember him saying he only created the site to scam and closed it down when he knew he could not. I am now going to go and get the post as to warn others. If nothing else he is persistant lol

Good luck!

edit : people are free to play a game they love and they will play what they like if you give a neg trust , we will give you the same if you help ralobot we will help you back with rewards and promos, if you have your own dice (casino site) and you feel ralobot will take over your site than get ready cause we are comming with huge rewards and we will always GIVE A PURE LEGIT GAME.

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I have add a negative trust for owner of Ralobots, i have write one question, because other user of forum write "you have delete my reply" and his have delete already my reply.

Gambling site can't have a automoderator thread, delete all accusation reply

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Quote from: ndnh on October 13, 2015, 02:19:55 PM

Quote from: vervolioman on October 13, 2015, 02:12:40 PM

This site was ran by https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kayenpal-511366 His ann https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/3-winners-next-3-loosers-infinity-no-luck-just-skillz-make-bitcoins-1052883 he talks/posts and acts the same I would think twice.

Good find.

Appears to be the same guy

It is the same guy ndnhc. The thing is I remember him saying he only created the site to scam and closed it down when he knew he could not. I am now going to go and get the post as to warn others. If nothing else he is persistant lol

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Quote from: ndnh on October 13, 2015, 02:19:55 PM

Quote from: vervolioman on October 13, 2015, 02:12:40 PM

This site was ran by https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kayenpal-511366 His ann https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/3-winners-next-3-loosers-infinity-no-luck-just-skillz-make-bitcoins-1052883 he talks/posts and acts the same I would think twice.

Good find.

Appears to be the same guy

Our first game was advertised here and other forums from lots of members anyways about the house edge you were always right and we are trying hard to make our players happy (The first lunch on the new game);

For the rest Please watch our main thread for updates .

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Quote from: ndnh on October 13, 2015, 02:15:55 PM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 13, 2015, 02:03:35 PM

@ndnhc, the method of choosing the "boss" hasn't been declared,

Quote from: ndnh on October 13, 2015, 01:17:14 PM

The site lacks information on how the boss is picked and also what the payout on win is.

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so until then the game is negative edge to players at 1.8x.

No, you don't understand. I am saying it is 0% edge to the player because the boss is NOT the house at the moment. It was 1JUVegNWquDxHJN37CHPp6V7rLTnaDcgmS (could be the house or a player. idk) and now me.

All I am stating is house edge was 0%. Not 10%. Not 20%.

My answer to that would be that he s trying to keep up the heat down as low as possible, to keep the big fish coming, and like a ponzi , run away when a big deposit is recieved. At any rate, care to share how much you have recieved from the Boss promo?
And have a look at vervoliman's post as well.

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Quote from: vervolioman on October 13, 2015, 02:12:40 PM

This site was ran by https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kayenpal-511366 His ann https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/3-winners-next-3-loosers-infinity-no-luck-just-skillz-make-bitcoins-1052883 he talks/posts and acts the same I would think twice.

Good find.

Appears to be the same guy

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 13, 2015, 02:03:35 PM

@ndnhc, the method of choosing the "boss" hasn't been declared,

Quote from: ndnh on October 13, 2015, 01:17:14 PM

The site lacks information on how the boss is picked and also what the payout on win is.

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so until then the game is negative edge to players at 1.8x.

No, you don't understand. I am saying it is 0% edge to the player because the boss is NOT the house at the moment. It was 1JUVegNWquDxHJN37CHPp6V7rLTnaDcgmS (could be the house or a player. idk) and now me.

All I am stating is house edge was 0%. Not 10%. Not 20%. I do not disagree with anything else you said.

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This site was ran by https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kayenpal-511366 His ann https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/3-winners-next-3-loosers-infinity-no-luck-just-skillz-make-bitcoins-1052883 he talks/posts and acts the same I would think twice.

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 13, 2015, 02:03:35 PM

In all this discussion one fact seems to have been lost, they have no
1) Maximum bet limit
2) Cold storage wallet, hot wallet has only 0.01 which I think is not a good sign considering the bet limit.
And some more facts, owner himself is confused about house edge , I don't see how he is trying to money off it or if he is going to scam and run when he gets a big deposit like 0.05+ .
@ndnhc, the method of choosing the "boss" hasn't been declared, so until then the game is negative edge to players at 1.8x. And the reason to make it at 2x seems that, owner is trying to make it look as least shady as possible for making a big scam. Lastly , consider the post from DannyHamilton in shorena's post.

the full answer will be on our thread , and all i want is to see what players want , but all i get is hate and useless comments (mostly) anyways thank you .

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In all this discussion one fact seems to have been lost, they have no
1) Maximum bet limit
2) Cold storage wallet, hot wallet has only 0.01 which I think is not a good sign considering the bet limit.
And some more facts, owner himself is confused about house edge , I don't see how he is trying to money off it or if he is going to scam and run when he gets a big deposit like 0.05+ .
@ndnhc, the method of choosing the "boss" hasn't been declared, so until then the game is negative edge to players at 1.8x. And the reason to make it at 2x seems that, owner is trying to make it look as least shady as possible for making a big scam. Lastly , consider the post from DannyHamilton in shorena's post.

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Quote from: Esally on October 13, 2015, 01:43:54 PM

Do not play on ralobot

There are three giant red flags:

Their provably fair system is completely vulnerable. A miner has complete control of what timestamp it uses and routinely generates fake ones, as the nonce is not big enough. They a miner just needs to only pick timestamps that would make them win, and not propagate the transactions. Or alternatively this vulnerability against players if ralobot control hash power by only putting losing transactions in a block. Both of these cost nothing to do.
They use a self-moderated thread, like other scammy sites like gawminer, pocketrocketcasino and fortunejack to hide what customers are really saying
Running with 0 house edge is not viable unless your plants involve some sort of scamming. No one is going to expose themselves to unlimited risk for no return. Right now they have a negative house edge, which means they have unlimited risk and are playing players to pay. Either idiots or incompetence

Conclusion is that it must be avoided at all costs.

intersting Comment Tongue

!! anyways for some members above i say thank you very much for supporting ralobot and our site is currently on maintenance. please be patient

We will update our thread after max 2 hours.

i'm still intersted to get more replies about the house edge should we change it back to x1.8 as we are paying 20% to the boss

, and thank you all again .

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Do not play on ralobot

There are three giant red flags:

Their provably fair system is completely vulnerable. A miner has complete control of what timestamp it uses and routinely generates fake ones, as the nonce is not big enough. They a miner just needs to only pick timestamps that would make them win, and not propagate the transactions. Or alternatively this vulnerability against players if ralobot control hash power by only putting losing transactions in a block. Both of these cost nothing to do.
They use a self-moderated thread, like other scammy sites like gawminer, pocketrocketcasino and fortunejack to hide what customers are really saying
Running with 0 house edge is not viable unless your plants involve some sort of scamming. No one is going to expose themselves to unlimited risk for no return. Right now they have a negative house edge, which means they have unlimited risk and are playing players to pay. Either idiots or incompetence

Conclusion is that it must be avoided at all costs.

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Quote from: shorena on October 13, 2015, 01:24:14 PM

Quote from: ndnh on October 13, 2015, 01:17:14 PM

Conventional definition of house edge is “the ratio of all money lost by players to the total money they wagered.” Unless you consider players individually, the house edge in the previous set up was indeed 0%.

wizardofodds seem to disagree with you.

The house edge is defined as the ratio of the average loss to the initial bet. The house edge is not the ratio of money lost to total money wagered.

No, both are the same. (you are ignoring the role of "boss" while taking into account the average loss)

Case scenario.
Players have say 10% chance of becoming a boss and getting refund. 45% to win and 45% to lose.

Player makes 100 bets.
45 wins. 36 profit.
45 loss. 45 loss.
10 boss. Expected profit is 9. (20%*10*10*0.45)

Or simply, the EV of the player and the EV of the house adds up to zero. In this case, the house has no advantage, so the player has no advantage either. (when the payout was 1.8x)

tl;dr when the payout was 1.8x, the house edge was 0%.
If the payout is made to 2x and the house also gives 20% of lost bets to the boss, the house edge would be -10% and the player's EV would be +10%.

Edit: EV seems to be 10% to the players now Shocked

Quote from: joksim299 on October 13, 2015, 01:28:24 PM

I said high instead of 20% because of self-moderated thread.

It is either 10% if you go by shorena's interpretation, or 0% if you go by mine (i.e. house edge is EV of the house).

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Quote from: joksim299 on October 13, 2015, 01:28:24 PM

They had problems with the previous version of the site and deleted all threads and posts.
Is there any working 'copy' of Bitcointalk to find the old topics?
I said high instead of 20% because of self-moderated thread.

Try this -> https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ralobot-com-worlds-first-blockchain-game-pure-fairness-big-rewards.504355/

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They had problems with the previous version of the site and deleted all threads and posts.
Is there any working 'copy' of Bitcointalk to find the old topics?
I said high instead of 20% because of self-moderated thread.

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Quote from: ndnh on October 13, 2015, 01:17:14 PM

Conventional definition of house edge is “the ratio of all money lost by players to the total money they wagered.” Unless you consider players individually, the house edge in the previous set up was indeed 0%.

wizardofodds seem to disagree with you.

The house edge is defined as the ratio of the average loss to the initial bet. The house edge is not the ratio of money lost to total money wagered.

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Conventional definition of house edge is “the ratio of all money lost by players to the total money they wagered.” Unless you consider players individually, the house edge in the previous set up was indeed 0%.

The house is not the boss at the moment (I am), so the house does not have any advantage at the moment.

Ralobot.com should consider to revert it back to 1.8x instead. At the moment, the players have a high positive EV.
The site lacks information on how the boss is picked and also what the payout on win is.

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 13, 2015, 11:23:18 AM

..show that the house edge is 20%

Even as per that interpretation the HE is 10%. Wink

OP stated 1.8x payout on win and also explained the boss feature (though not how it was won), so I don't think any misstatement was involved. He shouldn't have deleted your posts though.

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Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 13, 2015, 11:05:57 AM

-snip-
Edit : The word "dodgy" & "Owner" are both Wrong. (Please show some respect).

But thank you.

So you do not own the site? What is your role with them?

Quote from: poorhurt on October 13, 2015, 11:30:03 AM

I think he mean 0% house edge, because 20% go for boss (last winner)

if you sum 1,8x + 0,2 from boss winning, you have the full 2x, with a 50-50 chance... so it's a "0 house edge" at the end for users
-snip-

Yes, the "big boss" does not show on the site. It is also not clear how the big boss is picked. It does not mean there is no house edge though, see here -> http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/

On a 50:50 chance a 0% house edge would pay 2x on win.

Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 13, 2015, 11:41:09 AM

-snip-
Sens i replied to you about the house edge my friend "its now x2 So their is no house edge) i see that i'm done, Good luck.

You did not update the OP in your thread or your (or the owner did not) site.

The most odd thing IMHO is that this thread here is more informative than the thread for the game itself. I think you Ralobot.com should delete less posts and answer them as best as you can.

Edit: While we are here, I would still like to hear your solution to the possible miner attack on your game. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/urgent-question-to-prevent-cheating-1207556

I will leave this quote for those that do not want to read the thread.

Quote from: DannyHamilton on October 13, 2015, 12:08:49 PM

Unless you changed the rules of your "game", there is no fair way to use confirmation time to determine a "winner".

Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 13, 2015, 10:16:44 AM

There is NO exploit im here asking about the transaction confirmation time
- snip -

Any solo miner or mining pool operator can choose an odd or even timestamp in the blocks they solve if they want. They can create their own transaction and confirm it in their own block. That way they will always know if the timestamp will be odd or even when they create the transaction.

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well, i'll wait 1 day to get confirmed... if not i'll contact you...

at least you gave a answer now, best than my first try -.-

I don't want to break down your business, i just want what i deserve... hope you can understand.

Hope you can learn a little how to talk with your customers, good luck

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Quote from: poorhurt on October 13, 2015, 12:09:38 PM

Quote from: armadilo on October 13, 2015, 12:02:49 PM

To the "OP" Your game is Good and awesome. Please ignore the people above.

Good luck!

Yes, i also think the game is good, i never said it is bad, but the management not good as expected...

Man... i can't use my winning payout until now, (more than 3h)... because it's unconfirmed, and you want me to be happy with it? And when i ask for a explanation admin tell me to shut up my mouth... something very wrong.

Your transaction will be confirmed if Not Send a msg to [email protected] and we will be happy to pay u again.

Good luck.

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Quote from: armadilo on October 13, 2015, 12:02:49 PM

To the "OP" Your game is Good and awesome. Please ignore the people above.

Good luck!

Yes, i also think the game is good, i never said it is bad, but the management not good as expected...

Man... i can't use my winning payout until now, (more than 3h)... because it's unconfirmed, and you want me to be happy with it? And when i ask for a explanation admin tell me to shut up my mouth... something very wrong.

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To the "OP" Your game is Good and awesome. Please ignore the people above.

Good luck!

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https://blockchain.info/address/13oTtHGFp82mcnXf6R55giAU3wRJjrZKWM

is his hotwallet, and all winning payments came from it, all deposits are redirected to this address (i traced my deposits)... not "changing" all time... always the same

the question is... so many unconfirmed transaction... and hotwallet with so low money. I don't understand what you want with it. also if you making a 0 house edge, and a 20% from boss, how you profit with it?

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Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 13, 2015, 11:41:09 AM

Sens i replied to you about the house edge my friend "its now x2 So their is no house edge) i see that i'm done, Good luck.

I still think the concern is poorly addressed to lock this topic, seeing how you can easily change the payout, who knows if you change it back to 180% on win again. At any rate I see you have a wallet with only 0.01 and are providing more or less unlimited max bet amount, care to share how you are going to pay those , do you have a signed cold wallet address?

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 13, 2015, 11:36:37 AM

Quote from: poorhurt on October 13, 2015, 11:30:03 AM

I think he mean 0% house edge, because 20% go for boss (last winner)

if you sum 1,8x + 0,2 from boss winning, you have the full 2x, with a 50-50 chance... so it's a "0 house edge" at the end for users

That is not what is meant by house edge, you still lose 20% of what you should have won when you get only 180% of payout on a win. Doesn't matter if it goes to other people, as it should have gone to you. And 20% of amounts bet by users can vary.
As for your question probably this is the answer: "Our hot bitcoin wallets are automatically changing & note to all players, this is the first bitcoin game based on the blockchain confirmation time " , from their thread. Although I don't believe it for a minute, seems they are just taking player losses and giving the winners payouts from the ones who lost, although I can't prove it.
Lastly a opinion from shorena would be valuable and he has told he will be posting his opinion in a 1-2 hours.

Sens i replied to you about the house edge my friend "its now x2 So their is no house edge) i see that i'm done, Good luck.

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Quote from: poorhurt on October 13, 2015, 11:30:03 AM

I think he mean 0% house edge, because 20% go for boss (last winner)

if you sum 1,8x + 0,2 from boss winning, you have the full 2x, with a 50-50 chance... so it's a "0 house edge" at the end for users

That is not what is meant by house edge, you still lose 20% of what you should have won when you get only 180% of payout on a win. Doesn't matter if it goes to other people, as it should have gone to you. And 20% of amounts bet by users can vary.
As for your question probably this is the answer: "Our hot bitcoin wallets are automatically changing & note to all players, this is the first bitcoin game based on the blockchain confirmation time " , from their thread. Although I don't believe it for a minute, seems they are just taking player losses and giving the winners payouts from the ones who lost, although I can't prove it.
Lastly a opinion from shorena would be valuable and he has told he will be posting his opinion in a 1-2 hours.

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Quote from: poorhurt on October 13, 2015, 11:30:03 AM

I think he mean 0% house edge, because 20% go for boss (last winner)

if you sum 1,8x + 0,2 from boss winning, you have the full 2x, with a 50-50 chance... so it's a "0 house edge" at the end for users

what i don't understand is his hot wallet... that have alot of unconfirmed transaction. (i'm afraid he can double spend it or whatever). also his hotwallet is like empty. Look at all last bets, all unconfirmed until now... and my deposit already have more than 20 confirmation
But i see i can't ask him a explanation, because he'll say to STOP SPAMMING -.-

Good explanation but the boss is not the recent winner its a random reward from ralobot anyways for the unconfirmed transactions. i think they will get confirmed soon , there is no double spend from ralobot.

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I think he mean 0% house edge, because 20% go for boss (last winner)

if you sum 1,8x + 0,2 from boss winning, you have the full 2x, with a 50-50 chance... so it's a "0 house edge" at the end for users

what i don't understand is his hot wallet... that have alot of unconfirmed transaction. (i'm afraid he can double spend it or whatever). also his hotwallet is like empty. Look at all last bets, all unconfirmed until now... and my deposit already have more than 20 confirmation
But i see i can't ask him a explanation, because he'll say to STOP SPAMMING -.-

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 13, 2015, 11:23:18 AM

Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 13, 2015, 11:20:50 AM

i think what you are trying to say is that on win we pay x1.8 from the whole deposit amount, right my friend ?

Yes which means you should display it clearly on the OP and show that the house edge is 20% not 0% which is totally misleading "customers", if you do so, I will be happy to lock this thread.

anyways the house edge "the real meaning is something else.

Our game Now changed to X2 on win. (No house edge right ?)

thank you.

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Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 13, 2015, 11:20:50 AM

i think what you are trying to say is that on win we pay x1.8 from the whole deposit amount, right my friend ?

Yes which means you should display it clearly on the OP and show that the house edge is 20% not 0% which is totally misleading "customers", if you do so, I will be happy to lock this thread.

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i think what you are trying to say is that on win we pay x1.8 from the whole deposit amount, right my friend ?

And please note : Our hot bitcoin wallets are automatically changing. Wink

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I have been played sometimes in his ralobot website

After I win a transaction
I have noticed that his hotwallet has only 0.0008 BTC lol, not even could pay 1 win

Also, all win transaction are unconfirmed... i just gave a alert to admin, and looking for a answer (still unconfirmed)...

and what he answer: "STOP SPAMMING" omg .-.

that's how managers treat their customers nowadays?
i already tell him i'm out his website. good luck

i was in chat as TheOne

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Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 13, 2015, 11:05:57 AM

Please explaine what do you know about the house Edge so we might change our plans

Anyways The main thread is: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-most-profitable-game-pure-fairness-multiplayer-1206776

thank you

An gambling site owner who doesn't know about house edge? Please tell me its a joke. At any rate while you keep deleting my posts , all of the dodgy behaviour and other concerns will be discussed in this thread.
Edit: I have received a PM from shorena, he will be looking into it and it seems your site has a whopping 20% house edge.

Quote from: poorhurt on October 13, 2015, 11:08:33 AM

I have been played sometimes in his ralobot website

After I win a transaction
I have noticed that his hotwallet has only 0.0008 BTC lol, not even could pay 1 win

Also, all win transaction are unconfirmed... i just gave a alert to admin, and looking for a answer (still unconfirmed)...

and what he answer: "STOP SPAMMING" omg .-.

that's how managers treat their customers nowadays?
i already tell him i'm out his website. good luck

i was in chat as TheOne

Thanks for posting your concern, I have informed Vod and shorena about this, got a PM from shorena that he will be looking into it. Lets wait and see.

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Please explaine what do you know about the house Edge so we might change our plans

Anyways The main thread is: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-most-profitable-game-pure-fairness-multiplayer-1206776

Edit : The word "dodgy" & "Owner" are both Wrong. (Please show some respect).

But thank you.

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As you may/may not know, I have posted three times in Ralobot's thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-most-profitable-game-pure-fairness-multiplayer-1206776 , both of which were deleted for raising a valid concern, the house edge of the site + the dodgy nature of the owner. Here are my posts that got deleted:

Quote from: Decoded on October 13, 2015, 08:39:02 AM

Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 12, 2015, 07:23:10 PM

Quote from: joksim299 on October 12, 2015, 07:17:06 PM

I won the free bet,received coins.
Why house edge is high?

Hi "joksim299" , Congratulations! Grin

Please Note : There is NO house edge just pure betting . Wink

Thank you.

There is a house edge, my first bet was .0009 and wins but i only recieve .00162 so the house edge is too high :/

I had said that before as well and still do. Owner is acting dodgy by deleting any valid concerns for example:

Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 13, 2015, 09:51:09 AM

The is No house Edge in this game the winnins are x1.8.

That is what house edge means Roll Eyes

, someone with some gambling knowhow should know that.

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You delete my post? i have add a negative trust, if you write negative to this site this scammer delete reply

You are free to add negative trust i will talk to the admin about this & your misleading comments , and for deleting posts i said clearly that NO SPAM OR USELESS COMMENTS ALLOWED .

Lol you think admin will come here and post his opinions when he has many serious things to deal with, oh please. And @sguegliam , could you repost your post again? I don't think I have seen any "misleading" comment here. And @OP(means you site admin) , how was my concern "misleading" at all, I was raising a valid issue and you are trying to mislead others into thinking that the site has no house edge while it clearly has a whopping big one , something like 5% + which is huge considering most dice sites give you only 1% house edge and winning chances are much higher.

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Quote from: Ralobot.com on October 12, 2015, 07:23:10 PM

Quote from: joksim299 on October 12, 2015, 07:17:06 PM

I won the free bet,received coins.
Why house edge is high?

Please Note : There is NO house edge just pure betting . Wink

Thank you.

There is no way you guys are going to make money in that case, mathematically without any house edge you will stay more or less near the amount you started with.
Lastly, who said it is the "first" blockchain based game? I know satoshidice used to operate blochchain based as well. And blockchain based games were the first ones to come up when bitcoin gambling started.

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