Topic: Ranking System (Read 415 times)
Merit system have been implemented to clean up the forum because the moderators have seen that there are users tgat are spamming and posting out of topic or with no sense. This forum should be the knowledge base to people who wants to know deeply abiut crypto. But with the amount of spammers in this forum won't meet that vision. Although I thought also that it's quite hard to gain merits but as users we should follow rules and try our best to meet up.
I think he's missing the point of democracy... The merit system IS a democracy. It's based on users giving merit for posts that THEY deem meritorious. It's not like the staff of the forums are the ones who are choosing who gets merit and who doesn't... The merit system is as democratic as you can get lol
As much as I like the Merit system, I have to disagree that it's a democracy. "Voting rights" are unevenly distributed, and Newbies don't get to vote.That's actually a good thing, because (as a rough estimate) about 90% of the users is Newbie. If this would be a democracy, the spammer with most accounts would get to decide.
Create a new account, and try again to rise up to the legend with merit system.
Posts like this make me curious about your post quality. Let's summarize: "twitter links", "Great airdrop", "joining airdrop", "joined the airdrop", "more twitter links", ... let me see how many of your posts I can report.Considering tringt's suggestion, I'm guessing that is his one of his personal airdrop/spam alt account and not his main one to be honest.
Quoting my old post so I can delete it.
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Although it does feel very Black Mirror themed. I would prefer everyone had the option of 3 up or down votes a day maximum. But to avoid spammers and bad posts, the Merit system seems to work smoothly.
3 up and 3 down for everyone? Although it does feel very Black Mirror themed. I would prefer everyone had the option of 3 up or down votes a day maximum. But to avoid spammers and bad posts, the Merit system seems to work smoothly.
That makes users make several newbie accounts and just start downvoting when someone foils a scam they were hoping to pul off or something. I can see many users going negative from this that aren't so bad at posting, just make average non spammy posts.
There would have to be a defense against this therefore and that'll be difficult to come up with.
I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank.
That's intentional. Have you seen your post history? The Merit system is created to prevent users like you go up in rank.I think he's missing the point of democracy... The merit system IS a democracy. It's based on users giving merit for posts that THEY deem meritorious. It's not like the staff of the forums are the ones who are choosing who gets merit and who doesn't... The merit system is as democratic as you can get lol
As much as I like the Merit system, I have to disagree that it's a democracy. "Voting rights" are unevenly distributed, and Newbies don't get to vote.That's actually a good thing, because (as a rough estimate) about 90% of the users is Newbie. If this would be a democracy, the spammer with most accounts would get to decide.
Create a new account, and try again to rise up to the legend with merit system.
Posts like this make me curious about your post quality. Let's summarize: "twitter links", "Great airdrop", "joining airdrop", "joined the airdrop", "more twitter links", ... let me see how many of your posts I can report. 
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
Why would the owners of the forum care if you rank up or not? This forum is designed to be a resource for information about bitcoin, not a bank. The owners don't care how much you earn from signature or bounty campaigns. The simple fact is, if you were a high quality member, you would have enough merit to rank up, it has been weeks since the merit system was introduced and you've only earned 1 merit. There are other users who are new to the forum who have earned hundreds of merit, and easily ranked up. The goal of the merit system is to ensure that only those that deserve it benefit from ranking up, the forum should not reward low quality members.
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
I suggested downvotes and upvotes for everyone, that way it would enable a balanced community. Seen it happen on tonnes of other forums (although not bitcoin related)
But the system at the moment is to help and enable the community to have a improvements, like the black box thinking theory (google it).
Although it does feel very Black Mirror themed. I would prefer everyone had the option of 3 up or down votes a day maximum. But to avoid spammers and bad posts, the Merit system seems to work smoothly.
According to my shitposter radar op is one.. merit this merit that oh my I didn't level up.. merit ruined my life.. bore off and leave the forum if it is so bad. Stop polluting our eyes with these posts or learn English and integrate into the community by helping out and contributing in a positive way
Or even find a local subforum you can post in with good constructive posts if English isn't your primary language. I assume theymos made all moderators merit sources.
According to my shitposter radar op is one.. merit this merit that oh my I didn't level up.. merit ruined my life.. bore off and leave the forum if it is so bad. Stop polluting our eyes with these posts or learn English and integrate into the community by helping out and contributing in a positive way
This sounds like a BRILLIANT idea! I know how we can democratize this place, let's have you set up a poll in Meta that asks for a "yay" or "ney" vote on the current Merit system. Let's let the people decide!
Lets create a true democracy. We can all vote to determine if a post should be awarded a merit, or if it should be deleted. Of course democracy comes at a price - each member will need to contribute one Bitcoin every month to cover the server costs.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
Are you joking? Maybe you're just one of the newbies that keeps on posting nonsense just to gain activities on the previous system that's why your proposing such shitness on this forum. Many of the people here are trying to do their best just to embrace and understand the new system, and now you want it to be gone?
Seriously, why would you propose such thing? Is it that you can't make a thread that has sense? You're just thinking of your own good mate, even if the others will try to agree with you, with that kind of perception you can't gather or earn anything.
This post is making my nerves completely insane!!! (I wish people like you would go back to kindergarten)
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
We don't need to start a poll for the merit system, you know full well how it will go. Many will be against it because there are really a lot of shitposters in this forum that are having a hard time ranking The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
I totally agree with this... there are too many of them amd you can't beat them tru their type of personality together with their perceptions and mindsets.
Did you know that the forum is centralized, even from the start 
There's always an admin who maintains this forum, first it was Satoshi and now Theymos.
When Theymos says that Merit system are here to stay, that's it, no point in arguing.
If the polling did happen, it will be cheated by alts anyway, it's fast to create a new account with 5 minute burner email
You are free to leave/find your own democratic forum if you want
There's always an admin who maintains this forum, first it was Satoshi and now Theymos.
When Theymos says that Merit system are here to stay, that's it, no point in arguing.
If the polling did happen, it will be cheated by alts anyway, it's fast to create a new account with 5 minute burner email
You are free to leave/find your own democratic forum if you want
I agree to you that creating a poll here before starting a new feature is not a good idea. However, the admin created a post before introducing this system. He created a post asking members to give their opinions on different ways that can help to improve post quality on this forum. Merit system was also mentioned as a solution by him and a lot of members supported the idea. We should also consider the fact that any forum or blog owner will not take a harsh decision like this until it is essentially required.
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
We don't need to start a poll for the merit system, you know full well how it will go. Many will be against it because there are really a lot of shitposters in this forum that are having a hard time ranking up. The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
Make worthwhile posts that bring about quality discussion. Pretty solid option.
Well that is the problem. They can't make such quality and they are bitching about how hard it is to rank up. Anyways, as what Saltyspitoon says, put effort and thought to your post and for sure you will gain enough merits to rank up.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
Did you know that the forum is centralized, even from the start There's always an admin who maintains this forum, first it was Satoshi and now Theymos.
When Theymos says that Merit system are here to stay, that's it, no point in arguing.
If the polling did happen, it will be cheated by alts anyway, it's fast to create a new account with 5 minute burner email
You are free to leave/find your own democratic forum if you want
The pursuit is over.
You have two ways to earning merit. First and recommended to write constructive post and improve discussion and second way is to try deceive merit system and upgrade your rank buying merit or begging for them.
Do the 2nd option and there will be a punishment by DT, this forum has many eyes You have two ways to earning merit. First and recommended to write constructive post and improve discussion and second way is to try deceive merit system and upgrade your rank buying merit or begging for them.
Although, I did see a few topics that offered their merits to be sold, this usually happens on Local sub-forum
That's why in adakanny system merit, so that members can provide insight to the members of the forum. Order to in this forum, it could provide a solution, what matters in the tread of the forum and not out of conversation in whenever we post.
I think you are a self-centered piece of NUT pretending that you actually care about others. It's pretty clear that you are begging to rank up for higher rates which I think won't happen until you accept the essence of the new system.
If you can't give a good conversation and information that would actually benefit the forum, why would you expect something from it ? I think with you complaining, you don't even deserve what you are gaining today as a member.
Help the forum, then I guess it is reasonable for you to gain more. If that is your only goal.
If you can't give a good conversation and information that would actually benefit the forum, why would you expect something from it ? I think with you complaining, you don't even deserve what you are gaining today as a member.
Help the forum, then I guess it is reasonable for you to gain more. If that is your only goal.
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Your "rank" does not stop you in any way from meaningful participation in this forum.
These people don't really care about making any meaningful contributions, hence why the merit system is needed. They got used to lazily making their one line shitposts day after day just to breeze through the ranks and get paid by crapcoin campaigns in the process.
I love when low-ranked members say shit like this.
Reaching Legendary takes over two years. Earning 1,000 merits within that time shouldn't be that hard to do.
Reaching Legendary takes over two years. Earning 1,000 merits within that time shouldn't be that hard to do.
This is the point that people are missing but for those people who have dozens of accounts shitposting their way through ranks now isn't so easy and that's what most people are annoyed about. No more easy ticket to the rank of their desire just by logging on once a fortnight to splurge some half-assed post out. Now they have to put some effort in and that's why they feel so robbed.
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
Everyone will rank up. It will only take longer time and also not predictable any longer. The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
For you to rank up, your activity and merit must rhyme. Activity is predictable but merit is not. We just have to find a way of earning merits because I don't think the system will be changed from what it is now.
The pursuit is over.
You have two ways to earning merit. First and recommended to write constructive post and improve discussion and second way is to try deceive merit system and upgrade your rank buying merit or begging for them.
I think he's missing the point of democracy... The merit system IS a democracy. It's based on users giving merit for posts that THEY deem meritorious. It's not like the staff of the forums are the ones who are choosing who gets merit and who doesn't... The merit system is as democratic as you can get lol
when they left behind, they would say it's not democratize enough for them The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
would you say it's democratize enough if the poll only available for Full members and up. you would say no.but allowing lower rank members to vote is easily abused by account farmers times hundred accounts
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
Yeah, you're right. You've got it rough! Damn!
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
This sounds like a BRILLIANT idea! I know how we can democratize this place, let's have you set up a poll in Meta that asks for a "yay" or "ney" vote on the current Merit system. Let's let the people decide!
But how can we trust that your intent is true? If you're going to challenge the worthiness of the system, the People also should have the right to vote on your post quality. I can set up that thread and let's see where the chips land with this mess...sound good?
I think he's missing the point of democracy... The merit system IS a democracy. It's based on users giving merit for posts that THEY deem meritorious. It's not like the staff of the forums are the ones who are choosing who gets merit and who doesn't... The merit system is as democratic as you can get lol
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
Yeah, you're right. You've got it rough! Damn!
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
This sounds like a BRILLIANT idea! I know how we can democratize this place, let's have you set up a poll in Meta that asks for a "yay" or "ney" vote on the current Merit system. Let's let the people decide!
But how can we trust that your intent is true? If you're going to challenge the worthiness of the system, the People also should have the right to vote on your post quality. I can set up that thread and let's see where the chips land with this mess...sound good?
You don't like the fact that people are voting that your posts aren't good enough to merit, so why are you invoking democracy here? Because it serves your needs?
Sorry you're late to rank up, but that's how it's supposed to be, and that's because of the shitposters. Keep trying, be patient, and you'll eventually rank up--or go away.
Create a new account, and try again to rise up to the legend with merit system.Sorry you're late to rank up, but that's how it's supposed to be, and that's because of the shitposters. Keep trying, be patient, and you'll eventually rank up--or go away.
I love when low-ranked members say shit like this.
Reaching Legendary takes over two years. Earning 1,000 merits within that time shouldn't be that hard to do. If you are active in the forums, and contributing to active topics via informational posts and great content, this shouldn't be that big of a problem. It may take you longer to earn the required merit than the required activity time to hit Legendary status, but remember... It's "Legendary". I quite like that it's going to be more difficult to obtain than the previous ranks.
It's not like you can become a Legendary member overnight, regardless of merit reqs or not.
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
How about we all suggest theymos to make these changes:The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
- change back (remove) the merit requirement for ranking up
- then remove abilities to add images, avatar, and signature from rank level
- and add those abilities to appropriate merit level
- so rank only works for posting wait_time and sending pm limit
and guess what would happen?
there will be an uproar and many will start screaming (again) the same thing but different approach
Your "rank" does not stop you in any way from meaningful participation in this forum.
i second what he says.
that opinionlets just be frank! the idea behind merit is for stopping massive accounts farmer which solely purpose is to spam and gain higher rank for joining signature campaign and then continuing their spam fiesta to get maximum weekly payment.
whew... that is a long sentence. so if you can't conform, might as well
stop participating in this forum 
Your "rank" does not stop you in any way from meaningful participation in this forum.
i second what he says.
i understand what you mean but i honestly think right now, the member rank is just used for campaigns. (im not different in this sense, but i only do it for the projects i feel are worth)
Many new people can come and get involved.. some maybe more knowledgeable than legendary ranked member here.
If what you say is sound and promotes good discussion then what does a rank on a forum matter.
With the merit system at work right this moment, it will take ages for an individual to achieve a new rank system. What I will suggest to everyone is this. Forget about the merit stuff for a while, go about your daily activities here like before, post constructively and things will be fine.
Those things that you are talking about will never happen. Merit system is permanent and it is not going to be changed even a little in nearest time. I understand you and all of those who need tons of sMerits to raise up. You have to concentrate on quality posting. There are high rank users who give merits for good posts, I have seen their threads with such suggestion several times already and I guess it is going to be a new tend here on the forum. So, comment wise and wide for some time and after apply for an attention of such user, that way seem to me as the only option in your case.
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
Everyone will rank up. It will only take longer time and also not predictable any longer. The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
For you to rank up, your activity and merit must rhyme. Activity is predictable but merit is not. We just have to find a way of earning merits because I don't think the system will be changed from what it is now.
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
Everyone will rank up. It will only take longer time and also not predictable any longer. The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
For you to rank up, your activity and merit must rhyme. Activity is predictable but merit is not. We just have to find a way of earning merits because I don't think the system will be changed from what it is now.
Create a new account, and try again to rise up to the legend with merit system.
I'm not obsessed with rank here, and that has been true from the beginning. I realize it's hard to advance now, but that perquisite was spoiled by the hundreds of idiots who use bitcointalk as a means to spam as a full-time job. If you joined this forum to make money in campaigns that base their pay rates on rank, you're hit and I have absolutely zero sympathy for you. Those are the kinds of members that I hope will just abandon their bitcointalk dreams of steady "work" and go out and seek a real job that benefits not just them but society as a whole.
Yes, I'm in a campaign, but I'm not here for just that. For me it's just a bonus for doing something I'd be doing anyway.
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
Make worthwhile posts that bring about quality discussion. Pretty solid option.
Your "rank" does not stop you in any way from meaningful participation in this forum.
You don't like the fact that people are voting that your posts aren't good enough to merit, so why are you invoking democracy here? Because it serves your needs?
Sorry you're late to rank up, but that's how it's supposed to be, and that's because of the shitposters. Keep trying, be patient, and you'll eventually rank up--or go away.
Create a new account, and try again to rise up to the legend with merit system. Sorry you're late to rank up, but that's how it's supposed to be, and that's because of the shitposters. Keep trying, be patient, and you'll eventually rank up--or go away.
You don't like the fact that people are voting that your posts aren't good enough to merit, so why are you invoking democracy here? Because it serves your needs?
Sorry you're late to rank up, but that's how it's supposed to be, and that's because of the shitposters. Keep trying, be patient, and you'll eventually rank up--or go away.
Sorry you're late to rank up, but that's how it's supposed to be, and that's because of the shitposters. Keep trying, be patient, and you'll eventually rank up--or go away.
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
I think it'd have made more sense to give everyone the merit of the next user rank just as a starter to the merit system. It seems like it'll be extremely difficult for a lot of people to rank up now. We could probably do with more merit sources (although I don't think there is an actual number of merit sources - unless someone knows otherwise).
Edit: move from the altcoin section of you want a tip.
According to my Activity and posts my rank should be Full Member by now but it is still Member. I know that Merit system is also implemented now but it will make almost impossible for me and thousands like me to advance to next rank. I hope there will some options for me and many members like me.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
The best way is to take back this merit system and simply democratize the forum another way is to start a poll where members can vote in favor or against this system and the results should be implemented.
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