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Topic: [Re-loaned again]Request 3 BTC Loan - Repay 4 BTC in 7~10 days (Read 2175 times)

legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1029
See my golden eggs topic.
We will earn your losses back in no time.

Yes, his golden eggs are very valuable, so valuable, he had the great need to share it with us!
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
See my golden eggs topic.
We will earn your losses back in no time.
oys
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
I told you so.
Yes you did.

I guess he was just going for the ol' trust building scam then.
Things are more and more looking this way. Hopefully others will learn from my mistake.

Bigger BTC amounts every time.  Are you saying he did not respond to you in 10 days straight?
He didn't ask me for a bigger loan each time, just requested to extend the loan and paid the interest. Communication timeline looks a little something like this:
  • 12th of november: said things were looking good and that he was planning to repay
  • 14th of november: I reminded him that payment was due, but got no response
  • 16th of november: I got in touch again, and he replied that the change in exchange rate had caught him by surprise. Also said he had money on 145fanp1ewBQB5syTU4LoXdSn8EBPqUSVG, but that it was not available to him then and there. He asked for 2 weeks to get things sorted, since he was sure that the price of Bitcoin would not continue to go up, even though I warned him that this was a very real possibility
  • 28th of november: money transferred out of 145fanp1ewBQB5syTU4LoXdSn8EBPqUSVG, but not to me. For the record, I have no reason to believe these were in fact his funds.

A couple of days later he stopped appearing on Skype, probably because he blocked me. He has been on the bitcointalk forums since then, so I know he has been getting my PM's.

The reason I gave the loan is because it was my understanding that he had come across an arbitrage opportunity. I don't have collateral, and gave the loan based on the fact that I figured scamming me wouldn't be worth the loss in reputation.

The information I have about him is mostly based on his activity on this forum and from our communication on Skype. He uses 17Jjhm5rAWxM19cYm2ibpucWQpy6XfzpNi and 1CQHrpfRMRoLXHXnyiWqAVQEUqJqTWS6MU as his main addresses, and he has had funds to pay at least part of the loan since it expired, but chosen not to do so. I intend to send a 1 satoshi payment to these addresses with a link to this post if I see Bitcoin being transferred out of them without me receiving partial payment first.

His Skype name is eg.morph, and his birthday is 13. july 1994 according to his Skype profile. He also goes by the name elbashadodo and has been active on http://exchangemoneyforum.com/member.php/84980-elbashadodo. There are a couple of people on Facebook that go by the name Dodo Elbashado, but none that I can positively identify. He claimed to be studying Engineering in Cairo, so if a future employer googles him, hopefully this will show up.

Lol, will scammer tag soon, the least you could do OP is post here with a great excuse why you didn't pay back yet.

Since there has been no communication for over two weeks, I think this is only fair. I would also be interested to hear what actually happened to the money and what went wrong. My only realistic option for getting my Bitcoin back is for him to decide to do the right thing. I am down 1 BTC compared to when I gave the initial loan since he paid interest during the first two weeks, but he still owes me 4 BTC in total. A payment of at least 1 BTC will make me break even, and will change my opinion of him from outright thief to unlucky arbitrator.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1029
Quick update:

Loan of 3 BTC was given for a week, and 1 BTC interest paid on time.

Loan was extended for a week, and 1 BTC interest was paid on time.

Loan was extended for a month. Did not want to pay when payment was due because value of BTC had gone up, but promised to pay within 10 days. Over 10 days have passed with no communication.

No need for "I told you so" posts, but if anyone has anything useful to contribute, feel free.

I told you so.
I guess he was just going for the ol' trust building scam then.
Bigger BTC amounts every time.  Are you saying he did not respond to you in 10 days straight?
Lol, will scammer tag soon, the least you could do OP is post here with a great excuse why you didn't pay back yet.
oys
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Quick update:

Loan of 3 BTC was given for a week, and 1 BTC interest paid on time.

Loan was extended for a week, and 1 BTC interest was paid on time.

Loan was extended for a month. Did not want to pay when payment was due because value of BTC had gone up, but promised to pay within 10 days. Over 10 days have passed with no communication.

No need for "I told you so" posts, but if anyone has anything useful to contribute, feel free.
oys
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Loan extended for another 3 BTC with repayment 4 BTC after 1 month from now.

Payment 1 BTC
Paid to : 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu
Paid From : 1MQvy15tkatnKw9eTbU5bVP2Xv1y5Fevpw
Hash : https://blockchain.info/tx/a6e242da01c5aa8e81c0cbab55dcfe2c5ff77f7789bd793e80ca0ccf9b4b861d

Re-Loaned : 3 BTC
Payment : 4 BTC
Payment Date :  Before the 14th of november
Repay to : 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu
Address : 1MQvy15tkatnKw9eTbU5bVP2Xv1y5Fevpw
Message : I owe 4 btc payment to 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu to be payed no later then 14th of november 2013
Signature : GwevngQtZxRHuKS2HXk8VN1BNviTHMHTONsgx5uqz5Kcytf+mY1HvjSNAzhgD+5c73y2L+kWlC124q8I/dTpFes=

Confirm please.
confirmed
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
Loan extended for another 3 BTC with repayment 4 BTC after 1 month from now.

Payment 1 BTC
Paid to : 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu
Paid From : 1MQvy15tkatnKw9eTbU5bVP2Xv1y5Fevpw
Hash : https://blockchain.info/tx/a6e242da01c5aa8e81c0cbab55dcfe2c5ff77f7789bd793e80ca0ccf9b4b861d

Re-Loaned : 3 BTC
Payment : 4 BTC
Payment Date :  Before the 14th of november
Repay to : 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu
Address : 1MQvy15tkatnKw9eTbU5bVP2Xv1y5Fevpw
Message : I owe 4 btc payment to 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu to be payed no later then 14th of november 2013
Signature : GwevngQtZxRHuKS2HXk8VN1BNviTHMHTONsgx5uqz5Kcytf+mY1HvjSNAzhgD+5c73y2L+kWlC124q8I/dTpFes=

Confirm please.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
Bumping I will be either paying the loaner in the next day or we will set a long-term profit system as he was happy with the profit he was making from me.

I will post all the info here and if we are doing a long-term profit I will post the details here or in a new thread.

Next day is gone. Guess you agreed on a "long-term profit" system.
The guy is currently in-active for 1 or 2 more days he said.
I am waiting for him to skype me so we make the deal.
His bitcoins are ready to be sent.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Bumping I will be either paying the loaner in the next day or we will set a long-term profit system as he was happy with the profit he was making from me.

I will post all the info here and if we are doing a long-term profit I will post the details here or in a new thread.

Next day is gone. Guess you agreed on a "long-term profit" system.

AKA Ponzi.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
Cuddling, censored, unicorn-shaped troll.
Bumping I will be either paying the loaner in the next day or we will set a long-term profit system as he was happy with the profit he was making from me.

I will post all the info here and if we are doing a long-term profit I will post the details here or in a new thread.

Next day is gone. Guess you agreed on a "long-term profit" system.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
Bumping I will be either paying the loaner in the next day or we will set a long-term profit system as he was happy with the profit he was making from me.

I will post all the info here and if we are doing a long-term profit I will post the details here or in a new thread.
oys
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Loaner has accepted to get the 1 BTC winning and to reloan me 3 BTC for another 7~10 days.

Payment 1 BTC
Paid to : 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu
Paid From : 1MQvy15tkatnKw9eTbU5bVP2Xv1y5Fevpw
Hash : https://blockchain.info/tx/f2f52005063f9f488f180abaa74eae5ae673206fa78ef80597abafbc6e99206a

Re-Loaned : 3 BTC
Payment : 4 BTC
Payment Date : 9th~12th of october
Repay to : 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu
Address : 1MQvy15tkatnKw9eTbU5bVP2Xv1y5Fevpw
Message : 3 BTC borrowed from espen, 4 BTC will be payed back within october 9th~12th 2013
Signature : HCCH1+ChiJnWwLZLAxQyF5PZ1nIoGTU4bYXPSw8nfHkChbwXUs98a4nHh14mXZ4ivdbhO3ERa9aeBUh9T0g8r4I=

Waiting for him to confirm it.
I confirm Smiley
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
Loaner has accepted to get the 1 BTC winning and to reloan me 3 BTC for another 7~10 days.

Payment 1 BTC
Paid to : 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu
Paid From : 1MQvy15tkatnKw9eTbU5bVP2Xv1y5Fevpw
Hash : https://blockchain.info/tx/f2f52005063f9f488f180abaa74eae5ae673206fa78ef80597abafbc6e99206a

Re-Loaned : 3 BTC
Payment : 4 BTC
Payment Date : 9th~12th of october
Repay to : 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu
Address : 1MQvy15tkatnKw9eTbU5bVP2Xv1y5Fevpw
Message : 3 BTC borrowed from espen, 4 BTC will be payed back within october 9th~12th 2013
Signature : HCCH1+ChiJnWwLZLAxQyF5PZ1nIoGTU4bYXPSw8nfHkChbwXUs98a4nHh14mXZ4ivdbhO3ERa9aeBUh9T0g8r4I=

Waiting for him to confirm it.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Wow, you lie with such impunity.

Proof or it's a lie.

Prove your "lawyer friend" exists then, scammer.   Grin
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
I am that guy. I initially wanted to remain anonymous because I was wearing my tinfoil hat, but I guess it's not really that big a deal.

Signed from 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu: H1qy8QpJh97OXIiAV6a1h9uwD6c8fSK6KPZ+5tFrsqTviNQ6WnevDswI4AIQEfKc0MsiZFR1ZHz8bCpGNMKwZaQ=

Will update once repayed.

Thanks for replying and I will do my best to repay you before the time we agreed on Smiley
oys
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
After he confirmed I own those addresses with a signed messages we had a deal.

Received: 3 BTC
Hash: https://blockchain.info/tx/b2fab5029be319d6db0ac7744432d08e81fde6b614e2bd7ff6a1f75eb23d62fb
Repaying on: 2nd of October
Repay amount: 4 BTC
Repay to: 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu

The guy doesn't want to talk on bitcointalk to keep his name out of this trade and the addresses.
We have made our deal through skype and I can send proofs to a trusted member so he can make sure of this loan (As long as he won't mention the guy's name).

Thanks to that guy and hopefully I might repay before the scheduled time.

I am that guy. I initially wanted to remain anonymous because I was wearing my tinfoil hat, but I guess it's not really that big a deal.

Signed from 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu: H1qy8QpJh97OXIiAV6a1h9uwD6c8fSK6KPZ+5tFrsqTviNQ6WnevDswI4AIQEfKc0MsiZFR1ZHz8bCpGNMKwZaQ=

Will update once repayed.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
After he confirmed I own those addresses with a signed messages we had a deal.

Received: 3 BTC
Hash: https://blockchain.info/tx/b2fab5029be319d6db0ac7744432d08e81fde6b614e2bd7ff6a1f75eb23d62fb
Repaying on: 2nd of October
Repay amount: 4 BTC
Repay to: 1BMx9C43KvgdkS8uS8Rxry1vZYxatux4wu

The guy doesn't want to talk on bitcointalk to keep his name out of this trade and the addresses.
We have made our deal through skype and I can send proofs to a trusted member so he can make sure of this loan (As long as he won't mention the guy's name).

Thanks to that guy and hopefully I might repay before the scheduled time.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
I might do this.  Send me a PM and tell me something to make me feel good.  You've transacted 350 BTC - business accounts, I take it?


Some business going yah and I appreciate your offer but someone already gonna offer me.
We are talking on skype and when we are done he will post here Smiley

Post the transaction IDs to help build your rep.  Smiley


We are not done yet,we just made it I will post everything don't worry bro Smiley
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
I might do this.  Send me a PM and tell me something to make me feel good.  You've transacted 350 BTC - business accounts, I take it?


Some business going yah and I appreciate your offer but someone already gonna offer me.
We are talking on skype and when we are done he will post here Smiley

Post the transaction IDs to help build your rep.  Smiley
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
I might do this.  Send me a PM and tell me something to make me feel good.  You've transacted 350 BTC - business accounts, I take it?


Some business going yah and I appreciate your offer but someone already gonna offer me.
We are talking on skype and when we are done he will post here Smiley
msc
sr. member
Activity: 284
Merit: 250
I might do this.  Send me a PM and tell me something to make me feel good.  You've transacted 350 BTC - business accounts, I take it?
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Fourth richest fictional character
That's fine.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
Really? Why don't you look again. The loan to i3lome was funded by me, you might want to check it again.


Vod is abusing his power in regards to me. I don't know why he has a vendetta, but if he goes on threads spreading lies about me I am going to defend myself.


I really appreciate your offer and maybe I mistaken but as I said I don't feel safe for sharing my documents with people I don't know for a 3 BTC loan which is not that much or at least to me its not.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
Wow, you lie with such impunity.

Proof or it's a lie.

I do not ask for social security numbers. The only loans I have made are to i3lome, and russianbusinessman.
BOTH will attest I never asked for social #s, you are lying again Vod.
Can you move the argument to PM please?
I don't want my thread to be flood with this this.

And I am really not interested into borrowing from you,specially that I don't want to share my private documents for a 3 BTC loan when I posted links and transactions that I made deals of over $36k.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Fourth richest fictional character

I read the story myself,you refused to give the guy the loan because Vod gave you a negative balance which was a childish act from you and if you was really gonna loan him you would have did it and you would have understood that Vod has nothing to do with the guy.

And yah,speaking of you I dunno you but I know Vod and everybody knows him.
I trust his decisions and everybody does so what are you trying to prove here ?
I don't want my thread to be 6 pages of arguing I am here for a loan and I really don't need a loan from you specially with your requirements so I beg you not to spam my thread with some arguing.

Thank you


Really? Why don't you look again. The loan to i3lome was funded by me, you might want to check it again.


Vod is abusing his power in regards to me. I don't know why he has a vendetta, but if he goes on threads spreading lies about me I am going to defend myself.


And BTW, I didn't say anything about Vod in your thread, he's the one who started lying about me on YOUR thread.

Vod needs to learn to stop being a stupid troll smearing my name in every thread I post in.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Fourth richest fictional character
But I as you see VOD my transactions can tell you I am not a scammer and I have dealt with much more transactions than this stuff.
Also you worked as a middleman for my previous loan if you remember.

Ah yes!  I remember this now!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-06-btc-loan-repay-08-btc-in-1-week-239342

I'd be happy to escrow for again if needed.


Good call on Andrew Williams. At least one user has told me Andrew is asking for a social security number for loans.  Even without it, he can seriously affect your real life credit.  Only take a loan from him if the ID is send to a trusted third party.


Wow, you lie with such impunity.

Proof or it's a lie.

I do not ask for social security numbers. The only loans I have made are to i3lome, and russianbusinessman.
BOTH will attest I never asked for social #s, you are lying again Vod.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
That's OK, given your answers there is no way I would ever loan you.

If you took the time to actually look at the trust, you would see it was placed by a vindictive troll named Vod who was jealous I was lending someone he turned down. Vod has negative feedback to show for his despicable behavior. He accused me of ID theft with no proof or reasoning, and refuses to take it off even when the person who provided their ID docs attested that I was legit and had loaned him. I have no respect for people like that who lie about others in absence of proof, and look down upon those who refuse to fix their mistakes when they are proven wrong.


I have already successfully loaned two people on here for 4 BTC and 2 BTC so there.


I read the story myself,you refused to give the guy the loan because Vod gave you a negative balance which was a childish act from you and if you was really gonna loan him you would have did it and you would have understood that Vod has nothing to do with the guy.

And yah,speaking of you I dunno you but I know Vod and everybody knows him.
I trust his decisions and everybody does so what are you trying to prove here ?
I don't want my thread to be 6 pages of arguing I am here for a loan and I really don't need a loan from you specially with your requirements so I beg you not to spam my thread with some arguing.

Thank you
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
But I as you see VOD my transactions can tell you I am not a scammer and I have dealt with much more transactions than this stuff.
Also you worked as a middleman for my previous loan if you remember.

Ah yes!  I remember this now!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-06-btc-loan-repay-08-btc-in-1-week-239342

I'd be happy to escrow for again if needed.


Good call on Andrew Williams. At least one user has told me Andrew is asking for a social security number for loans.  Even without it, he can seriously affect your real life credit.  Only take a loan from him if the ID is send to a trusted third party.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Fourth richest fictional character
That's OK, given your answers there is no way I would ever loan you.

If you took the time to actually look at the trust, you would see it was placed by a vindictive troll named Vod who was jealous I was lending someone he turned down. Vod has negative feedback to show for his despicable behavior. He accused me of ID theft with no proof or reasoning, and refuses to take it off even when the person who provided their ID docs attested that I was legit and had loaned him. I have no respect for people like that who lie about others in absence of proof, and look down upon those who refuse to fix their mistakes when they are proven wrong.


I have already successfully loaned two people on here for 4 BTC and 2 BTC so there.

full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
Under trusted you put a question mark? lol.
You are playing poker, a gambling game, but NOoo, it's not risky?  Funny person.
I am putting my self in the place of the person who is gonna lend me which would ask if I am trusted,I have had trades for over thousands of dollars with one of the most known exchangers on EMF and I can give you link to their ratings and you can try to ask them about me
Also as you see I have done over 300 BTC trades with my addresses.
And yah I said its not risky,because unlike some people I know what I am doing.
I also mentioned that if anything goes wrong I will be paid in the end of the month before the time of the repayment I asked for.
So pretty much your reply has no meaning,I can see you put such kind of replies for every loaning request as if you don't want people to get loans because it hurts you I dunno why.

What do you have for collateral worth $600
I pretty much can't think of any collateral atm Vod but I play a game called "Fiesta Online" which I can prove that my accounts can get me over 1000$ if I ever wanted to sell them.
But I as you see VOD my transactions can tell you I am not a scammer and I have dealt with much more transactions than this stuff.
Also you worked as a middleman for my previous loan if you remember.
If the lender insists on a collateral (If he thinks what I put is not enough to trust me which I don't know why that would be) anyway I will be looking into a collateral that is worth 600$ but I really haven't thought about it yet I was in a hurry.

I would need to know what kind of business you are referring to, and you proportion of gambling to business you seek to do with this loan.

If you wish to keep your business private feel free to PM me.

Its a private business I am sorry,but its somehow depending on advertising and exchanges I can't explain to you how my business goes because it would be useless to take from you a loan when you can do my work to get what I would repay you.
And your trust system is not really making me want to deal with you,sorry.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Fourth richest fictional character
I would need to know what kind of business you are referring to, and you proportion of gambling to business you seek to do with this loan.

If you wish to keep your business private feel free to PM me.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1029
Under trusted you put a question mark? lol.
You are playing poker, a gambling game, but NOoo, it's not risky?  Funny person.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Loan Requested : 3 BTC
To be repaid : 4 BTC
Time to be repaid : 8 days
Reason : Some business and poker (I can guarantee you that its not risky and I asked for 8 days because it would be end of month and I will get paid)
Trusted ? :
iANDROID - Gave him a WoW prepaid card
snowcrashed - Loaned me 0.6 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=239342.40
zamazama - Exchanged 1 BTC for his neteller https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-15-5-btc-via-netellermoneybookerspaypal-246374
Can check my addresses :
1- 17Jjhm5rAWxM19cYm2ibpucWQpy6XfzpNi (Proof its my address is my other loan which I took and repaid from that address)
No. Transactions   150
Total Received   219.18072471 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/17Jjhm5rAWxM19cYm2ibpucWQpy6XfzpNi

2- 1CQHrpfRMRoLXHXnyiWqAVQEUqJqTWS6MU (Proof its mine is that I will receive the loan on it and you can check the transactions you will see some traces to my first address)
No. Transactions   192
Total Received   131.90987421 BTC
Can provide a screen shot from blockchain if you wanna feel more safe.
Had exchanges of thousands of $$ with an EMF popular members Yasir Majeed and Peter which can vouch for me (Can provide links of their EMF threads to know they are trusted and their yahoo ID so you can ask them to vouch for me while they already vouched for my EMF user anyway).

Please send the loan to 1CQHrpfRMRoLXHXnyiWqAVQEUqJqTWS6MU (Preferred) Or 17Jjhm5rAWxM19cYm2ibpucWQpy6XfzpNi I don't really care.

What do you have for collateral worth $600
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 100
Loan Requested : 3 BTC
To be repaid : 4 BTC
Time to be repaid : 8 days
Reason : Some business and poker (I can guarantee you that its not risky and I asked for 8 days because it would be end of month and I will get paid)
Trusted ? :
iANDROID - Gave him a WoW prepaid card
snowcrashed - Loaned me 0.6 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=239342.40
zamazama - Exchanged 1 BTC for his neteller https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-15-5-btc-via-netellermoneybookerspaypal-246374
Can check my addresses :
1- 17Jjhm5rAWxM19cYm2ibpucWQpy6XfzpNi (Proof its my address is my other loan which I took and repaid from that address)
No. Transactions   150
Total Received   219.18072471 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/17Jjhm5rAWxM19cYm2ibpucWQpy6XfzpNi

2- 1CQHrpfRMRoLXHXnyiWqAVQEUqJqTWS6MU (Proof its mine is that I will receive the loan on it and you can check the transactions you will see some traces to my first address)
No. Transactions   192
Total Received   131.90987421 BTC
Can provide a screen shot from blockchain if you wanna feel more safe.
Had exchanges of thousands of $$ with an EMF popular members Yasir Majeed and Peter which can vouch for me (Can provide links of their EMF threads to know they are trusted and their yahoo ID so you can ask them to vouch for me while they already vouched for my EMF user anyway).

Please send the loan to 1CQHrpfRMRoLXHXnyiWqAVQEUqJqTWS6MU (Preferred) Or 17Jjhm5rAWxM19cYm2ibpucWQpy6XfzpNi I don't really care.
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