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Monero is really not that anonymous, many other privacy coins failed too but I don't know anything about VDS, the only coin I'm waiting for now his GHOST (the first crypto coin from the government hater) John McAfee, Ghost privacy coin is coming on MAY 25, and if you are ESH Holder you will get free Ghost tokens 1:1
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I have heard a lot about VDS but haven't had the time to study more about it, and from reviews so far it looks like a good one. About anonymous coins, so far the crypto space is still existing there will always be anonymous coins because privacy matters a lot to many people. Also, because of the nature of privacy coins that's why most exchanges are delisting them, maybe because of regulation, however even with the delisting, there are still new exchanges listing them as well (a good example is Monero); thus confirming the fact that privacy coins have come to stay.
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In this age, it's important to retain some degree of financial privacy because the online world is littered with companies with the intent to sell your personal data to advertisers and government agencies.

It can also be inconvenient to be personally tracked online, even if the site you are visiting is not taking any personal information, and you have opted in to not be tracked.

There are some choices you can make.

Disconnect from all online services that require personal information on both sides

If you've opted in, do not opt out.
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I do not know why you have copied other content and paste it here. If you do that, then of course you have to give the writing credit. Copy-paste content does not allow on BitcoinTalk.org. This content is exactly what you submit: https://forum.bitcoin.com/alternative-cryptocurrencies-altcoins/real-anonymous-coins-are-free-from-restrictions-t127163.html
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Firstly, i think the OP didnt understand that there are semi-centralized and totally centralized exchange site and the last time i checked  none of the anonymous coins are listed on centralized exchange site. With that been said, the reason why most of the anonymous coins experienced decline in price is because of the governments against anonymous coins and i dont see any reason now why previous Anonymous coins or tbe mentioned by the OP will be free from restrictions..

Note : Ignore the hype OP crypto investors are no longer stupid.

yes, it can be dangerous if misused, as well as tools or other objects.
while poisonous plants can be used as medicine if they are used and handled correctly.
so it would be great if it was according to the procedure they said.
Argument is correct if being used correctly it's okay to exist but knowing how eager the government wanted to get control about anything that exist from their jurisdictions especially when it talks about financial concern.
Anonymous coins can be used as mentioned but most of the investors and traders are treating this venue as source of incomes by dealing with day trading and they are very much willing to take the risk working with centralized exchange.
Privacy is a much-desired feature in the virtual world. Anonymous coins work better for those who prefer to keep their identities as well as their transactions concealed.
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Coins of confidentiality will always be the objects of close attention of states and their governments, since by their nature states do not tolerate financial anonymity. It has always been known that someone who does not control finances does not have real power. Governments will always try to limit the circulation of coins in a high level of confidentiality. Craftsmen from the people will oppose this and decentralized cryptocurrency for the first time provides a good chance in this matter. We will witness a long struggle around anonymous coins.
A long way ahead of us and attempts will never stop. Just like building Rome:)
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How exactly does this decentralized OTC process work?

Surely it's not anonymous when there are bank transfers involved? Unless you've got some sort of way to also mix fiat funds before sending them out?

Is there a document I can read about how VDS' decentralized OTC works?
Bitcoin is converted into Vollar after Resonance Trade, this operation has already made your Bitcoin "clean". Then exchange Vollar into other fiat through group OTC function, use somebody else's bank cards if you'd like to get cash.
Here's a video about OTC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x35Hj27V5JQ
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Coins of confidentiality will always be the objects of close attention of states and their governments, since by their nature states do not tolerate financial anonymity. It has always been known that someone who does not control finances does not have real power. Governments will always try to limit the circulation of coins in a high level of confidentiality. Craftsmen from the people will oppose this and decentralized cryptocurrency for the first time provides a good chance in this matter. We will witness a long struggle around anonymous coins.
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Firstly, i think the OP didnt understand that there are semi-centralized and totally centralized exchange site and the last time i checked  none of the anonymous coins are listed on centralized exchange site. With that been said, the reason why most of the anonymous coins experienced decline in price is because of the governments against anonymous coins and i dont see any reason now why previous Anonymous coins or tbe mentioned by the OP will be free from restrictions..

Note : Ignore the hype OP crypto investors are no longer stupid.

yes, it can be dangerous if misused, as well as tools or other objects.
while poisonous plants can be used as medicine if they are used and handled correctly.
so it would be great if it was according to the procedure they said.
Argument is correct if being used correctly it's okay to exist but knowing how eager the government wanted to get control about anything that exist from their jurisdictions especially when it talks about financial concern.
Anonymous coins can be used as mentioned but most of the investors and traders are treating this venue as source of incomes by dealing with day trading and they are very much willing to take the risk working with centralized exchange.
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If privacy coins can be sell off without the involvement of any centralized organization or platforms then it will remain anonymous, I think that's one fine use case that all anonymous coins don't have presently
VDS has achieved a distributed OTC Exchange by combining smart contracts onto chat groups in the Secret Chat function. Vollar is used as the primary medium of exchange to perform frictionless transactions with currencies across the globe.
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How exactly does this decentralized OTC process work?

Surely it's not anonymous when there are bank transfers involved? Unless you've got some sort of way to also mix fiat funds before sending them out?

Is there a document I can read about how VDS' decentralized OTC works?
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The future of cryptocurrencies looks very centralized due to the expanding influence of regulators.
Private coins to one degree or another leave the market, which in the future may lead to their complete or partial disappearance from the market.
Although I doubt that it will lead to this because decentralization is the heart of the crypto market, which means that anonymous coins will live.
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Most of the coins are free from restrictions but the users themselves give up their anonymity while trading the coin in or out from fiat currency. This is the point where the government can really track users. If we are able to create a self sustaining market around privacy focused coins, there's no stopping it. Though real estates and large physical goods won't remain out of government radar.
You are right about the acquisition of any property. With real goods that you can touch or use anonymity is practically excluded. They will not track the currency for which the “product” was purchased, but the product itself and its current owner

And you can't avoid those circumstances as we need tangible products in everyday life. It is not that we can use virtual equipment or gadgets or virtual properties. So with these actual properties in possession, that's where we need to comply with government taxes.

Government taxes will be implemented, so if some establishment will try to skip on it I believed they're subjected by the punishment of the law. Legit products will aim a trusted users, so much better to reveal your identity once found out that you're involved with virtualized coin as part of cryptocurrency adoption.
US already implemented the taxation to the crypto users on all of the US-based major exchange sites. Those developers can be traced anytime and i think if they will never try to doa mistake to avoid the regulation. We could see what happened with some developers and they were even getting sub-poena from SEC caused by they were trying to avoid to be compliant with US regulation.
As long as we just follow all of the regulation and nothing happen with us. So many projects are being anonymous already appeared as it was getting threatened by the regulators.
It's better to keep everything transparent when it's related to the exchange site rather than taking a big risk that can make us become the next criminal.
When people wanna get their privacy and just do direct transactions that used anonymous tech and that's enough to make them all become untraceable.
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Firstly, i think the OP didnt understand that there are semi-centralized and totally centralized exchange site and the last time i checked  none of the anonymous coins are listed on centralized exchange site. With that been said, the reason why most of the anonymous coins experienced decline in price is because of the governments against anonymous coins and i dont see any reason now why previous Anonymous coins or tbe mentioned by the OP will be free from restrictions..

Note : Ignore the hype OP crypto investors are no longer stupid.

yes, it can be dangerous if misused, as well as tools or other objects.
while poisonous plants can be used as medicine if they are used and handled correctly.
so it would be great if it was according to the procedure they said.
jr. member
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Most of the coins are free from restrictions but the users themselves give up their anonymity while trading the coin in or out from fiat currency. This is the point where the government can really track users. If we are able to create a self sustaining market around privacy focused coins, there's no stopping it. Though real estates and large physical goods won't remain out of government radar.
Most of the centralized exchanges require identity certificates with no anonymity at all.
Through the decentralized resonance trade in VDS, anyone can convert Bitcoin into Vollar without any personal identification, and transfer Vollar to an anonymous address after the resonance transaction is completed, making it impossible to trace the money.
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Most of the coins are free from restrictions but the users themselves give up their anonymity while trading the coin in or out from fiat currency. This is the point where the government can really track users. If we are able to create a self sustaining market around privacy focused coins, there's no stopping it. Though real estates and large physical goods won't remain out of government radar.
You are right about the acquisition of any property. With real goods that you can touch or use anonymity is practically excluded. They will not track the currency for which the “product” was purchased, but the product itself and its current owner

And you can't avoid those circumstances as we need tangible products in everyday life. It is not that we can use virtual equipment or gadgets or virtual properties. So with these actual properties in possession, that's where we need to comply with government taxes.
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I think the "free from restriction" on real anonymous coins is just an illusion.  I agree anyone can send anon coins to anyone not being tracked but due to its nature, it was restricted to be used in mainstream trade.  Several anonymous coins were delisted from the different exchanges, restricting them to be traded on that platform.   Aside from that governments are doing its best to combat this anonymity things due to the reason for money laundering.  In a world where transactions are governed by a central authority, I cannot say that anonymous coins do not face any restrictions from these institutions.
As long as corruption exists, there will be decentralized pseudo anonymity as part of an agreement by a group of government fraudsters. But this anonymity will be anonymous as long as the amount of anonymous funds does not exceed the amount that can interest large players or regulators. In short, while you sit quietly and do not stick out ... the anonymity will be anonymous, as soon as you start to chic and drive on a lambo, anonymity will come to an end
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I think the "free from restriction" on real anonymous coins is just an illusion.  I agree anyone can send anon coins to anyone not being tracked but due to its nature, it was restricted to be used in mainstream trade.  Several anonymous coins were delisted from the different exchanges, restricting them to be traded on that platform.   Aside from that governments are doing its best to combat this anonymity things due to the reason for money laundering.  In a world where transactions are governed by a central authority, I cannot say that anonymous coins do not face any restrictions from these institutions.
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Most of the coins are free from restrictions but the users themselves give up their anonymity while trading the coin in or out from fiat currency. This is the point where the government can really track users. If we are able to create a self sustaining market around privacy focused coins, there's no stopping it. Though real estates and large physical goods won't remain out of government radar.
You are right about the acquisition of any property. With real goods that you can touch or use anonymity is practically excluded. They will not track the currency for which the “product” was purchased, but the product itself and its current owner
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If privacy coins can be sell off without the involvement of any centralized organization or platforms then it will remain anonymous, I think that's one fine use case that all anonymous coins don't have presently
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Most of the coins are free from restrictions but the users themselves give up their anonymity while trading the coin in or out from fiat currency. This is the point where the government can really track users. If we are able to create a self sustaining market around privacy focused coins, there's no stopping it. Though real estates and large physical goods won't remain out of government radar.
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Coins may be free but delisting from exchanges mau hurt them
Anonymous coins are bound to be hampered by centralized institutions if they rely on exchanges to make transactions.
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Monero has always been a different one, it is bitcoin of privacy coins and I doubt it would ever be broken. The team also has been trying really hard to keep it asic resistance as well. So, they are both the best but also getting the most attention as well and funding too which means they have more funding and more power to fight everything bad as well.

If you give that much funding and that well team behind any coin that coin will go up, not just monero or privacy or even bitcoin, if you give this much funding time and great team to ANY coin ever, they will go up as well. So, I would say stay with monero if you can, no need to dilute the investments to other ones.
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Last time I checked few privacy coins are getting delisted from exchanges since then I sold my XMR, I think there will be problem with this privacy coins in the future because it's certain that many will be against them and only criminals will embrace privacy coins
BTC, some people still use it to do bad things, people who have privacy coins do not necessarily participate in doing bad things.
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I don't know about VDS, maybe I will look into it, seriously I opted to other privacy coins from Monero because they offer better security features, I choose veil and Apollo over Monero, I will definitely look into VDS now maybe if good enough I can add to my portfolio
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I'm wondering what would have happened now if top exchanges are DEX, privacy coins feels perfect for DEXs instead of centralized exchanges, on decentralized exchanges who cares which coin is or what?
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Many new privacy coins are crap, they offer new features that the teams aren't ready to back up, that veil coin promised a stealth function, sending coin from a stealth address to another but that feature doesn't work till date and team aren't saying anything about it, another one is mask coin, failed in the end

This is why some exchanges are delisting those privacy coins since they arent the types that centralized market will love to. In exxeption with the monero which is the most sophisticated and I believe the good one amongst the rest. Its up to you to interpret how this projects will roll. But I dont have much hate with them as their object is pretty simple and nurturing the true decentralized.
In this case the problem is anonymous coin will never be free from the regulation. The problem is to get the users and this anonymous coin will always need the help from centralized exchange site. The majority of centralized exchange site that comply with the regulation will always give responsibility to the users to complete the verification. Anonymous feature can be used only for people to people transaction only.
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There needs to be a truly decentralized exchange for all of these coins to exchange hands, at least at that level, you can still use bitcoin to go into fiat if you want or come into crypto using fiat to bitcoin but when it comes to doing stuff with your privacy coins you should be able to.

However at where do we really draw the line, it is great to not want your government to know you have money, it is even understandable that you may not want to pay taxes because lets be real we are not in Norway and my taxes are going into some politicians pocket but when we are talking about too much privacy that you can actually buy a nuke (okay maybe too much but you get the idea) and not get caught, that is kind of too much privacy don't you think? We can't have just a bit of privacy I know that but we need to draw a line as well.
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Many new privacy coins are crap, they offer new features that the teams aren't ready to back up, that veil coin promised a stealth function, sending coin from a stealth address to another but that feature doesn't work till date and team aren't saying anything about it, another one is mask coin, failed in the end

This is why some exchanges are delisting those privacy coins since they arent the types that centralized market will love to. In exxeption with the monero which is the most sophisticated and I believe the good one amongst the rest. Its up to you to interpret how this projects will roll. But I dont have much hate with them as their object is pretty simple and nurturing the true decentralized.
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Many new privacy coins are crap, they offer new features that the teams aren't ready to back up, that veil coin promised a stealth function, sending coin from a stealth address to another but that feature doesn't work till date and team aren't saying anything about it, another one is mask coin, failed in the end
Yes, many privacy coins fail, but as far as I know, this VDS coin keeps improving itself, I see their dev team keep posting updates and release new versions both for the PC-end and mobile App.
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this is indeed interesting, freedom of data, wealth, chat and all our information. but behind it all, isn't this actually a danger when this anonymous is actually used for crime, such as cases of hacking that might occur. and because this is all anonymous, tracking is not possible. but if this anonymous can actually increase security, surely many will use this coin.
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Not all crypto exchange will be able to delist Monero and other privacy coins, even on few exchanges Monero has the best trading volume and liquidity, delisting won't do any good to such exchange, the hate for privacy coin from government will make privacy coin better, let's wait and see what happens in future
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Firstly, i think the OP didnt understand that there are semi-centralized and totally centralized exchange site and the last time i checked  none of the anonymous coins are listed on centralized exchange site. With that been said, the reason why most of the anonymous coins experienced decline in price is because of the governments against anonymous coins and i dont see any reason now why previous Anonymous coins or tbe mentioned by the OP will be free from restrictions..

Note : Ignore the hype OP crypto investors are no longer stupid.
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Government are the first threat to privacy coin's life and if any exchange are regulated they can easily delist privacy coins but this might even make privacy coins more interesting, I'm not ready to wait around and see what they will become in future without investing some affordable cash
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Last time I checked few privacy coins are getting delisted from exchanges since then I sold my XMR, I think there will be problem with this privacy coins in the future because it's certain that many will be against them and only criminals will embrace privacy coins
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Many new privacy coins are crap, they offer new features that the teams aren't ready to back up, that veil coin promised a stealth function, sending coin from a stealth address to another but that feature doesn't work till date and team aren't saying anything about it, another one is mask coin, failed in the end
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I don't know about VDS, maybe I will look into it, seriously I opted to other privacy coins from Monero because they offer better security features, I choose veil and Apollo over Monero, I will definitely look into VDS now maybe if good enough I can add to my portfolio
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Monero is routinely seen as the gold standard of the privacy niche, and for good reason. It’s the longest running of the major contenders, boasts the largest market cap, and has successfully protected XMR transactions from unwanted eyes for years.
But that hasn’t stopped Monero users from being identified and reprimanded, over and over again.
While other privacy coin fail, VDS might be the ultimate solution..
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Since the second half of 2019, numerous anonymous coins were delisted by crypto exchanges and prices have plummeted. Zcash once drop by more than 50%. The reason why anonymous coins are removed from the shelves is that financial offences such as money laundering cannot be prevented since it is difficult to trace specific transaction records. These anonymous coins have reached the current state of decline, mainly because they have single function of trading and most of their transactions rely on centralized exchanges. Once trading is restricted, anonymous coins are bound to be hampered by centralized institutions.

Real anonymous coins should be free disoriented from centralized exchanges. Anonymous coins are born to protect privacy. However, most of the registration and transactions of exchanges require verification of personal identity info, which are contradictory in nature. VDS, on the other hand, gets rid of the current predicament of anonymous coins. In addition to a variety of application scenarios, VDS also comes with a decentralized OTC function to break away from the centralized limitations and truly realizes decentralization.

VDS adopts zero-knowledge proof to make anonymous transactions, it is the most complete and thorough way to remain anonymous without leaving any records. Moreover, there’re plenty of application scenarios for Vollar, the only circulating medium in VDS, such as running smart contracts, creating VID-the unique identification in VDS ecology, building super master nodes, etc., so that Vollar could effectively play its role in circulating.

The biggest difference from other anonymous coins is that VDS has its own decentralized OTC function that free from the limitations of centralized exchanges. VDS’s OTC function is implemented on a distributed anonymous network composed of super master nodes with hidden IPs. Super master nodes are only responsible for data operation and information transmission, not storing data. Each piece of information will be broken into fragments and each fragment is encrypted in different method and transmitted through various nodes. It only cost a certain amount of Vollar to create a VID, no personal identifiable information is required. The entire network is designed to be completely decentralized and anonymous to eliminate the obstacles from centralized exchanges such as institution intervention and restrictions on docking legal notes for its on-built OTC function. You can trade Vollar freely in OTC for any fiat currency, security, or even other cryptocurrency, making global currencies easily convertible. VDS’s design of high-level freedom has brought upon a large, distributed and anonymous OTC market.

Apart from the OTC function, VDS’s anonymous network also enables us to have secret chat. The distributed “fragmented information transmission” guarantees privacy and makes it impossible for any third party to obtain chatting content, so that everyone is blessed with real freedom in speech. Here you don’t have to worry about your sentences being monitored by the relevant departments. In this network, everyone is equal, feel free to express your thoughts and ideas.

VDS also carries out the development of smart contracts. A lot more people now have access to present creativity, thus bringing more possibilities for the development of Vollar’s application scenarios, adding scalability to the VDS ecosystem as well as limitless potential. VDS makes full use of the advantages of decentralized system, and offers us a free, private and fair ecology, which is also the original intention of blockchain and anonymous coins. To protect privacy is to protect freedom. In the ecosystem of VDS, everyone’s privacy is well-protected, your asset privacy, chatting privacy, personal information privacy, etc. are all taken care of. In this way, we can truly achieve freedom of wealth, freedom of speech, and even freedom of thought.
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