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Quote from: Patrix_1 on November 22, 2019, 04:05:10 AM

For sure it can go wrong, nothing is protected from failures. Especially, if a project has a real use case, but greedy management, bad community and poor roadmap. There are more important things that a working product.

For a project to be successful everything needs to go right, a project that the only thing that has going for it is its use case does not really have anything.

The developers need to have the abilities to make the project a success, even something as basic as the chemistry between the team members is critical since I have seen some projects failing precisely for that reason, they also need to set realistic goals if they do not then the community will get restless and may sell their coins and stop their support to the project.

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For sure it can go wrong, nothing is protected from failures. Especially, if a project has a real use case, but greedy management, bad community and poor roadmap. There are more important things that a working product.

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Well, we have already seen that the cryptocurrency use case for blockchain is a winner. However, I also believe that we are only just beginning to see the beginning of what smart contracts can do.

Right now, most smart contracts are used for rudimentary tasks like delivering tokens for ICOs and handling funds for investment pools. I think their main use case will be in IoT, which is an emerging tech.

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Real estate is just the basic option which every guy like you is thinking about when talking about serious investing. It's very popular among masses and people like it because it's "physical" enough, you can see and touch your investments. But that's not the best option as for me.

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Scammers wants money one way or the other and so is investors too, if project like BOMB token that only offers nothing but burning off tokens with deflation function can gain investors mind like that well i think that scammers will always find themselves who to prey on

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Not many cryptocurrencies actually have any "real world use cases" and are designed just to profit the project's creators for developing a token that has no real world value in terms of adoption so when you invest make sure you're investing in the kinds of assets that will last long term as these will likely benefit you the most

Agreed. Many projects even though they are not appropriate for blockchain is really doing a token crowd funding for their incoming project. I dont know why so many projects introduced that are connected into real state which I found very mismatch and not useful at all. I will understand if its about financial management purpose or bank affiliate but real state is something out of blockchain needs.

It caused by money and no more. Even some scammers have made non-sense projects. So many projects have been using the idea to create further development in the financial system combined with crypto. that makes those scammers are not getting a lot of ideas and they started to take the crap and non-sense approach.
The problem is why so many investors could not even see which is a sensible idea and non-sense idea. Those projects were using non-sense approach just wanna try to scam investors only. After they have issued assets and they will be running away with the investor's money. some crap projects even declared if they are doing ICO to get donations only.

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Quote from: starblocks on November 20, 2019, 07:01:11 PM

Not many cryptocurrencies actually have any "real world use cases" and are designed just to profit the project's creators for developing a token that has no real world value in terms of adoption so when you invest make sure you're investing in the kinds of assets that will last long term as these will likely benefit you the most

Agreed. Many projects even though they are not appropriate for blockchain is really doing a token crowd funding for their incoming project. I dont know why so many projects introduced that are connected into real state which I found very mismatch and not useful at all. I will understand if its about financial management purpose or bank affiliate but real state is something out of blockchain needs.

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Not many cryptocurrencies actually have any "real world use cases" and are designed just to profit the project's creators for developing a token that has no real world value in terms of adoption so when you invest make sure you're investing in the kinds of assets that will last long term as these will likely benefit you the most

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It's also a good idea to always keep in mind the use-case isn't the only thing that matters with a project either. There's been plenty of projects over the years where a good idea was present but various details in the execution were wrong and led to things never working out, or more commonly projects that just weren't original at all.

This particular use case the OP mentioned just does not make sense to me either; there are already ways to use existing crypto to buy property such as with Bitcoin or Ethereum, and those larger coins do the job perfectly well without any major disadvantages over a coin or token designed solely for the purpose of being used for real estate at the moment in my eyes.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Your introduction is somehow self contradictory "real use case is different from real use case" but I believe you imply that some use cases are better than others or some use cases are more valid. Talking about a utility token used in real estate, that's a good use case per say, some good uses cases include; being accepted exclusively for an online shopping mall, tokens which represent equity shares, tokens used for medical bills or as payment for target adverts etc.

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Seem a centralize idea to me. how's that you can only use the token for that real estate investing purpose?

Maybe this is where the blockchain is going to end after all. Centralization. Most of the ideas for blockchain projects seem explored already and had turned scam in the past. Use case won't matter if its centralized, it can be taken down one day and your money will be gone.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Actually you sites a good example of an investment which will give good long term rewards; real estate is one of them. But I tend to believe this happens in the outside because coming to the crypto space, I have seen many real estate blockchain platforms which either operated for a short time and die off and didn't even enter the crypto market. This shows that the right knowledge is yet to be gotten on how to correlate blockchain with real estate. Of course real estate in the blockchain space will be a good use case if there are developers or team willing to pilot it.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Some time ago I also thought that investing in real estate is a profitable type of investments. Nope, it is not true at all. There are some reasons why so. I can enumerate several reasons. First of all real estate is not a liquid asset that means you cannot buy/sell an asset in a simple way. Professionals know that the market of real estate may be in a downtrend or stagnation and in that case you can sell your assets only with a big discount what is not good for you. You probably must be informed that real estate is a passive asset which generates a negative cash flow (taxes, payments, maintenance and so on).
What about me, I do not buy real estate unless a particular asset costs a ridiculous small price.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case

Oh, that makes sense.

Quote from: avikz on November 18, 2019, 07:59:28 AM

What exactly you are trying to establish? Is it a promotion of an utility token which invests in real estate?

I think this guy is off his rocker or doesn't know how to write in english or has brain damage to some extent. Could be a bot as well.

Quote from: masterrex on November 18, 2019, 07:31:56 AM

Sounds confusing to me! since it was repeatedly mention (*Real use case is different from real use case) whats your point about it?

And it's confirmed, op is a dip shit. If he's trying to link cryptocurrency with real estate somehow, he is doing a piss poor job of it, and there aren't many examples I know of where crypto has been used to buy property. Yes there are a few but it isn't common. But I'm sure op is long gone from this thread and won't be back to clarify what the hell he's talking about.

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I used cryptocurrency to pay my phone bill and also saw a cafe when I was in Europe where I could pay with bitcoin, but I did not use this opportunity because I did not have a password from my wallet with me. This was the only time. But the tokens that are stamped on the blockchain eth have never met, although in white papers they write about a bunch of possibilities to use the token in real life. As it turned out so far, it looks like only a hoax.

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Of course, there are a lot of cases of real use of crypto, but I am far from them. I have not used crypto for any purpose other than trading. This is very cool, but so far the use of crypto in real life is not very common, it should take time for crypto to become commonplace.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on November 15, 2019, 12:37:52 AM

If you look at the prices of other real estate blockchain projects, the crypto community seems to have little interest on this market.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/iht-real-estate-protocol/
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/real/

They might have a valid real use case as you claim but if the market doesn't agree, there must be something wrong.

In my own opinion tokenization and blockchain technology is a huge improvement in the real estate industry but due to the complexity of rules and regulations in property investment, crypto investors are still doubtful in this kind of project. Real estate platforms are still in the stage of maturing just like other projects so it will take some years before we see some progress but for me, it's not a bad idea to invest in real estate projects because they have a big potential.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

If you include quantity, it is better accompanied by evidence and relevant sources so that your statement can be verified. Because I see many members questioning the truth.
Whatever it is, realistic and real-use projects that are able to provide tangible evidence of progress that has been achieved are a good signal to attract more investors.

Quote from: Dart18 on November 19, 2019, 08:11:31 AM

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Real estate had been the booming industry ever since the population is getting higher.
People need shelter and they need land first to build that shelter.
Me, if I have the chance then I would really invest there. But here in crypto, I will never ever invest in an ICO or something else that is about real estate.

Many doubted that real estate was adopted with blockchain and ICO, because many failed and stopped, so it is natural for you to choose like that. However, there is one successful project related to real estate that I have participated in, Atlant. Indeed, overall it looks more promising than similar projects.

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On your watch? And what is it?
Try to name one if you are advertising something.
Maybe something like what others do, an article. But please keep it short.

Real estate had been the booming industry ever since the population is getting higher.
People need shelter and they need land first to build that shelter.
Me, if I have the chance then I would really invest there. But here in crypto, I will never ever invest in an ICO or something else that is about real estate.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

I don't think there are many projects that work on property business. If the property sector is in tokenisasi, I think it will be more interesting especially if the project has assets and has a partnership with a well-known property company.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

A token for a property can mean a security token because it is backed up by an asset. Tokenisasi is a new thing and I think it will continue to grow not only as a utility token because with security tokens, every company can easily issue global bonds

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Real use case requires real users before it can truly establish itself as a real use case.
Real estate investment is great and investors have a very low chances of loosing their money but the interest of the crypto community often shift from longer investment projects to a short and quick returns on investment, this in my on thought normally lead to acceptance of any project.

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The real use case would be integrating crypto with system. A general purpose crypto can be used for buying or selling anything but a use specific crypto would be required to get a service or product. Consider a bus network that can be paid only through tokens. No one would trouble buying those token unless they get some privilege whether in price of facility. Integrating payment on blockchain would make it easier for the company to track statistics of use and money spent. These data can be used to upgrade the service.

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I cannot remember how many ICO projects I saw back in 2018 whose aim was to do exactly that, some of them were altestate, Brickblock and a lot of others and I am not sure if they ever amounted to anything worthwhile, atleast I haven't been hearing news about how major apartments were tokenised and owned by several people on the blockchain and the amazing things is that there are still more and more projects popping up daily that are claiming that they would do the exact same thing and it's such a wonder that people are still showing interest in them at all.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

There have been many coins like what you are describing in the past and it does not matter if they have a real use case what it matters is if the coin is going to be actually used for its purpose.

And I do not see it why anyone will use an utility token for this when they can use fiat and if they want to use a cryptocurrency they can always use bitcoin which is the coin that is universally accepted in this market, so this is a good idea but it will fail as all the projects that came before it.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Not only tokens that are tied to real estate are valid real use case, other tokens tied to health,agriculture,financial sector can also been seen as utility tokens with real use case, between how many real estate tokens have you seen in the market that are 80% working as of now? plus you did not exactly give an example of any tokens of such.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

I think most rich person got their money from being a smart investor at an early age and mostly on stocks markets. Of course real state is a good investment as well, as the price of of a real state will continue to appreciate through the years.

However, I still have my doubts if it involves a utility token for real estate investments because I haven't heard any of them being successful, just saying.

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Quote from: jacafbiz on November 18, 2019, 07:52:27 AM

There is nothing that can not go wrong, you site an example of real estate invest good, but do you know there are many failed real estate business. The main issue in the space is gaining users traction, just look at the top 100 projects in the space and check if most of them have 1000 daily users, it would be difficult most of the transaction is from the exchanges. If you have no users then no demand and no use case for your token

Realestate projects needs a high amount of Investment to pursue the progress and process. Before there are good real estate project that are all successful by year 2017 like primalbase, antlant and etc. But now it's hard to reach project target due to market's down in price so it's better to diversify and invest in projects that can operate even the market falls a bit since they have backup sources.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

What exactly you are trying to establish? Is it a promotion of an utility token which invests in real estate?

From an investor's point of view, real estate has been a safer investment vehicle excluding few exceptions! But how can you ascertain that a token company is indeed investing in real estate and how can you ensure the integrity of their claim?

Please address the concerns!

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There is nothing that can not go wrong, you site an example of real estate invest good, but do you know there are many failed real estate business. The main issue in the space is gaining users traction, just look at the top 100 projects in the space and check if most of them have 1000 daily users, it would be difficult most of the transaction is from the exchanges. If you have no users then no demand and no use case for your token

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Sounds confusing to me! since it was repeatedly mention (*Real use case is different from real use case) whats your point about it? as far as i know real use case is the term used for a sequence of interactions that a user makes with a product to achieve a goal. Like the exact uses of a product and its purpose, to create demand through its use cases and i think it cannot be wrong if it was a truly achievable since the very beginning.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Even the drug lords, if you meet them on the road, they will also tell you that they are into real estate. Most rich men in my own country will also tell you too that they are into real estate and I wonder who are the people really patronizing them to make them have such a huge amount of money from real estate.

There is no doubt that real estate business is a very lucrative one, but not all the business men that you see are rich are into this business, but for the genuine ones that we know, it will be a very good idea to invest into their utility token when we spot one, but we also have to make sure that the utility token is from the real real estate business, because we have so many tokens too that are just duplicate which you see listed on some of the exchanges.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate, now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Actually I don't believe there are good or bad real use cases. I believe in actual real use case (like using bitcoin for store of value) and in fake real use case (like using altcoins for storing loyalty points in shopping, because I supported a project like this and in the end realized it was tough to do and not possible in today's economy).

Real estate investment can happen without altcoins. Just because it is valid doesn't make it an actual use case.

actually I am also still in doubt about the news that states "Real Estate Magnate Sells New York Condo for $ 15.3M in Bitcoin". real use cases with crypto currency are still things that make people still in doubt, because the value is fluctuating and it is not impossible that real estate investment with crypto can make a loss. except if you stick to investing in the crypto market, it can still bring big profits.

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Another crazy idea Grin

I have not seen it work until now. There are a few projects with the same concept that are struggling to stay afloat. Returns from those projects are pathetic.

Why will anyone invest in a real estate project in a different country?

If I want I will go ahead and invest in real estate in my country without blockchain and create an asset for myself, which will be far better than gold.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate, now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Actually I don't believe there are good or bad real use cases. I believe in actual real use case (like using bitcoin for store of value) and in fake real use case (like using altcoins for storing loyalty points in shopping, because I supported a project like this and in the end realized it was tough to do and not possible in today's economy).

Real estate investment can happen without altcoins. Just because it is valid doesn't make it an actual use case.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate, now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token?

There is already real estate involving blockchain system and accepting digital payments. Definitely, there is a real use case like that. But I'm not sure that majority of rich men's source of money and income are came from real estate investment.

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It is better you back your claims with reliable statistics. Most rich people don’t focus on one investment. Real estate is a good investment opportunity but it can be said that rich people get 80% of their money from there.
I agree with you that real use cases of crypto differ but that is because some are implemented on already profitable ventures while others are just cropping up. Just because something is coming up does not mean it is not going to be real-use-case.

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I refuse to accept, real use cases is not enough when the teams or developers are bad or inexperience, no matter how low the idea of a project is what matters is the experience of the teams, i have seen few real estate projects that failed due to this reason of mine

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We have this fresh news from US.

Real estate Magnate Sells New York Condo for $15.M in Bitcoin

And this is a perfect example of use case for bitcoin and I think there will be for some other altcoins too if the seller decides to accept a specific token as an alternative coin of payment.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate, now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

Those 80% people are not using cryptos for their investment,they are using something which has real value that is why they are using fiat for buying lands which is not a great way of investment but for someone who interested in very long term then it could be a way.They can do the same thing with bitcoin which actually got value so token has no real use since we have a better thing.

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate, now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

80%? is there is valid proof about that? As far as i know, the majority of the rich people (in this case, I called billionaires)are coming from the finance and investment industry. That idea has already used so many times, and none of them gets success. It's different when it comes to the finance and investment industry in which crypto investment goes perfectly (there is a lot of successful companies).

you don't need to use utility to do this and when you can consider it as an investment and this will be concentrated in the capital gain. I ask you now how can you say if that will be a utility token?

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Lol most rich men i knew of in my country are simply business men, i doubt they are into real estate but no way to know either, i agree with you that real estate based coins or tokens will see huge demand if they are legit for example Chellecoin which raised million of dollars successfully in 2018 and they are working hard to launch AQRE platform for real estate investors, the most impressive thing about chellecoin is its deflationary token

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Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

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if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate,

Did you? Site a source if you only read this 80% stat somewhere

Quote from: Furryball on November 15, 2019, 12:19:00 AM

now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong,
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I have been involved in at least three projects that're into real estate so far. Out of the three, only one is listed on CMC but it's a security token.

If you look at the prices of other real estate blockchain projects, the crypto community seems to have little interest on this market.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/iht-real-estate-protocol/
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/real/

They might have a valid real use case as you claim but if the market doesn't agree, there must be something wrong.

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Real use case is different from real use case, some are good and some are not, every one keeps talking about their own understanding of real use case, if you ask rich men where they get their money from 80% and above will say real estate and businesses , now how about a real estate investment where you can only invest using an utility token? this is a 100% valid real use case on my watch, they can't go wrong, do your own research and if you have another example of high rated real use case do not hesitate to drop, thanks

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