Topic: Reality of Crypto Winter and what to expect from now on (Read 644 times)

I agree that some of the shitcoins were already died because of the bear season and I am hoping that on this coming years, Bitcoin and good Altcoins will rise up. Good projects will also reborn and investors will support these projects all the way. Looking forward that Crypto will have the great comeback after few years of silence.

one of the best ways to minimize risk is to invest in old projects, indeed many projects have lasted 4-5 years, such as Ethereum, Stellar, XRP, Waves, etc., you can get safe there

There is no doubt that many shit projects shut their doors and it is not easy to start a project and expect everything to be fine and if you look at the market even Litecoin is in financial crisis and asking for money from miner, if a project like that is in cash crunch then what will the situation of other projects.

I do not see anything specific to see a major acceleration in crypto adoption.

Adoption already started long time ago but the real question here is when the massive building stone for these innovative adoption. As you can noticed last two years, most of the crypto projects died out and this is due to bearish market. If you want to see a kind of market that occur last 2017, a need of demand on the crypto industry is a must. Dont invest on new projects that is only promoted for pump and dump but pick a stable or big marketcap coin that even 5years from now is still alive.

I agree with your hope for the acceleration of the adoption of crypto assets, but it must also be filtered out in the adoption of critical assets that have really good development. This is to prevent fraud cases when a large adoption has occurred, because if there is fraud that is disadvantaged is the public as a user. I look forward to the adoption of the crypto assets as soon as they are realized.

During next bull run someone probably will breath a little life to some of those nonsense projects too. They don't just die away. They live some sort of zombie life and refuse to die even though they should.

The credibility of new projects at this time will lie in the team and what they are ready to offer. I have started seeing new projects ready to give what it takes to be accepted because they too have noticed some of these changes. If they will make it now, there must be a product backing up the project.
This is what they should have done, not waiting for investors to provide all that they need.
Give us part of what you are ready to offer, let.s see how it is going to work and we will support you.

The last quarter of that year was generally dull and the prices are not favorable to sell the cryptos. Yet, it was also a good opportunity for some to buy cryptocurrencies ands start investing. The fluctuations of bitcoin and top altcoins are really helpful for those who grab that opportunity that time. I personally learned something from that "winter".

I doubt this is true, majority of this so-called nonsense project are on hibernation mode ready to be active once the market is back in it's full swing, don't kid yourself by thinking the long bear period successfully flushed them out, even though some are out, many are still hanging around waiting for the green light,
The only important thing is people should be wiser by now to know which project to support.

It seems this is surprising many investors but it makes complete sense, it seems that some people thought that icos and ieos could keep scamming people forever and that somehow there will be no consequences for this.

But even if this market has the potential to change the way world works people are going to notice sooner or later they are being scammed, I am happy this is happening, most of those projects should not get even a single penny and I hope that things continue to move in this direction, if someone wants to create a new project then he should do it and not ask the community for money.

Adoption is a slow process, market is growing as demand grows, and demand grows as more people enter the market. Of course not just people, from companies we expect much more, big companies, when they start entering they will be a trigger for the next bull run, and that bull run has the potential to be the bigger than the last one.
Reality is that bear markets hurts bad projects more, therefore bad projects are being flushed away in these times. Well that hurts people who have shit coins in their bags, each of us learn lessons about what is good to hold and what is good to dump as fast as possible.

whatever will happen this year i'm sure, the market will get a very positive change even though before we get a surprising correction but that is what must happen because the market is moving slowly and therefore, improvement and recovery will at least be expected to increase slowly and slowly no hurry

This year i didn’t expect not something big in crypto, last year i get so many bad news and so many hacking news, overall hacking news negative effect in crypto world,       

Regulations should not apply to Blockchain or cryptocurrencies themselves, but should protect investors. Regulations should ensure that the situation as with the ICO market never repeats, where at one point half of the projects were obvious scams. When investors are protected, they will return to the market and the bear market will end. I hope that this will happen this year.

A lot of the nonsens projects are not doing very well, I hope this will wake up people.
To not invest in any project that promises a lot, and ends up doing not nothing.
I guess people know now, that their investments have gone to almost nothing in such a short time.
Hopefully they will do research now and actually invest in something good.

The coins and tokens that have been here for a long time are here to stay tho and are a good addition to the cryptomarket.

Its perfect if they can build a blockchain have many useful thing to use the cryptocurrency and for all the country not only for few. But its hard now because of the many regulation in every nations. And build a blockchain can convinced all the nation to regulate the currency.

If there is a word that I will not use to describe the current growth in bitcoin is the word slow, the growth that we have been seeing during the last weeks has been simply too fast we reached a point in which a correction was inevitable and yesterday we saw that correction.

And now the bulls are desperately trying to protect what they have to gained and are trying to avoid that bitcoin goes lower than 8600 dollars, if they can achieve that goal then it is possible that a positive movement of bitcoin is going to resume but if they fail you better prepare yourself because the price is going to go down even further.

The main lesson is that the market is artificially controlled, with several different forces. At any moment, the market may begin to adjust against any predictions, to which no one will give an adequate answer why this happened.
It is for this reason that so many people have lost more than 90% of their deposits.

Its usually the ones who hold their BTC while the bears are dumping who loses money. They didn't lose their BTC but the value of it depreciates fast. Its not  just the BTC holder but also the altcoin holders who prefer to hold the tokens they have like a hopeful one thinking it will still rise up. This time around I guess a lot of us had learned the lessons and are very much responsive when markets correction happens.

In my opinion, most investors who do not understand the principles of the BTC’s work have lost more than they earned.
Even those who were able to earn eventually faced a correction. In fact, only a few could get out of this rally with full pockets of money.

Many people expect about that, and many people waiting for that because we are at a long time in the crypto bear market, and it still happens. With the halving of bitcoin price that will happen this year, it might trigger bitcoin price to increase so high, and maybe the price will be making another highest price. With the situation now, I think the market is trying to rise again after it sleeps for a long time.

Slight changes in bitcoin price actually pulled the altcoins up. Note that this is the effect that every bitcoin pump has. It does not imply any organic growth of the altcoins and they will drop on their own or with bitcoin drop in price. Now the point is that if you are going for altcoin options you can make some money but it is important to not get carried away and move money from bitcoin to altcoins because they are not going to be leading the  market in future.

I do think this pump is temporary, more stronger pump is needed even if gradual to increase the altcoins prices.

One good point of view. Well so many traps are booming in the market so we need to be careful about it,they always manipulating the market and can took advantage for many traders finances, but crypto is still making for good coins in the marketcap like the aci coin and many more ,there are also a few coins or tokens which this characterizes. Leys just hope that 2020 is a best year for all the traders here in the cryptomarket.

And what we see now is a market that has begun to improve day by day, so optimism for everyone will obviously always be there and hope for the best for cryptocurrency this year, but we also need to be more careful in making every step.

For me personally scammers will still be there and they will always look for gaps that exist to be able to generate profits for themselves by making others believe what they say and what they will do because for me personally there will always be people who want to make a profit by looking for weaknesses at a point that can make them able to benefit from these weaknesses and for me personally it is we who have to be more careful and maybe we should find a way to at least minimize it.

I don’t think there is going to be anything like an end to scam in cryptocurrency if we don’t bring a solution to ending it.
They are not going to disappear without us putting the effort to stopping them, if we don’t they are going to still remain there.

These scammers see scamming people as a job, so they never get tired of doing it, because they see it as their means of income unless they are caught and dealt with. It’s mainly left to us crypto enthusiasts and users to be very careful about what project we invest in.

One potentially bullish event coming up that could make 2020 a great year for cryptocurrencies would be the upcoming halving that is scheduled to happen in a bit over 100 days from the day that this post is made, though strong rises in price have historically happened after the halving occurs and not much has happened near halvings, though I don't expect history will fully repeat itself this time around. Even strong trends like the bearish one we've been in for a few months do eventually end, and I think we're just about near the tail end of that trend as sellers seem to have started to exhaust themselves.

Everyone is optimistic about this year hope we all get what we expect because if the market lingers still, the damages won't be repaired in a very long time. I'm optimistic the year will be a good one for adoption and institutionalisation of cryptocurrency

coins that are left today are still in the exchange and has the volume to it then it will still be in the future. we can see there are lots of coins still in the market that you can't believe they are still alive.


many are expecting more than $15K. if adoption is slower but the striking initiative of governments right now to be using digital currencies may accelerates the adoption that its possible we can already start buying anything with an app where BTC can be turned into a currency.

I do hope that this year would be fantastic with cryptocurrency. By the start of this year, bitcoin is slowly climbing up to 10k dollars which is a good thing and surprising. I'm getting an excitement this year on bitcoin. And this year would be the year when ETH 2.0 will come and bitcoin halving perhaps.

Adoption is quite slow, but I like what you're saying and wishing that it would be accelerated. Looking at it from afar, you could see that adoption we already have especially in Bitcoin is quite large now.  The bulls are taking the tables slowly like right now BTC = 8.5k USD. While this is still the initiation of the year 2020, we might have some more in the half of the year. 10k breach or push it up to 15k?

The mass adoption has started and the BTC google search is at a high level. There are so many signs of the upcoming bullish market and I don't doubt the bull market is near. Adding more altcoins and selling the useless coins will save our time and money in the long run. The bear market aka crypto winter will not revisit the crypto market for a few months at least, IMO.

Actually the adoption of crypto has begun and many new companies have adopted Blokchain technology to develop their own projects. but in this case the problem is that many developers don't care about the projects they have built and most of the crap projects occur in 2018-2019. maybe in 2020 the market can recover and the project can be profitable again for investment.

The market of cryptocurrencies has already gone through a very heavy correction during the last months, what we need is that investors recognize the truth and understand that the market of icos and ieos is not really a place to put their money because as we know there is a very huge failure rate in those coins and even the coins that do not fail are not really getting any interest from the community.

It is time that we abandon that way of investing and that we only consider the coins that have actually good developers that are working hard to reach their goal.

A lot of the scam projects were created by the same person as i have seen there was a team that was getting accused to run various projects with the same team. This will be a very good year for sure but we must waiting for the result of bitcoin halving. The bitcoin halving is the only chance for us to see the bullish trend of bitcoin that will give a lot of impact to the price of altcoin too.
Winter has nothing to do with the crypto trend caused by the fundamental is something that affects crypto in every moment.
This year will be a good year but again nothing to expect for the next winter.

Manipulation is there regardless of what coin you can think of, mostly to the coins that are centralized. This winter was said to be the last one but who knows? we don't hold anything here and all of us are assuming that it would be the end of it.

You've just said the reality and make it a lesson learned for you and also to everyone that shouldn't invest in crappy projects. And don't also join the force of being hyped because there's a high tendency that you'll lose money because you invest in emotions.

well so many traps in the market you need to look again for these coins or tokens ,they always manipulating the market and take advantage of traders finances that way crypto is still stagnant for good coins moreover we all know in the top 30 too on marketcap ,there are also a few coins or tokens which this characterizes

Over time a few coins I invested in for long term turned crappie because the hype died down and there is nothing much to show for with regards product release as purported and adoption. So many altcoin projects are trash, just created for team members to make money and zoom off. However, there is still hope since there are a few altcoin projects with really good team members and great development progress. I'm hoping 2020 will be a good year, I already accumulated Bitcoin and few altcoins hoping grace shines on me.

There’s no assurance that every year the price will be the same just like the old season because anything can happen the important here is that, the past trend teaches us a good lesson. This year can be a different year because of so much hope in halving and many says the bull is already here well whether you believe or not the price of bitcoin will still continue to go up.

The long bear market really flushed out many weak projects, but yet there are still so many shit altcoin projects. Talking about expecting accelerating crypto adoption this year, let's be hopeful but adoption has been happening gradually at a very slow pace. I really wish more regulations will come, that's the only way to fast track adoption in the real sense since it will definitely build confidence to use crypto and products developed by crypto projects.

Stock exchange or cryptocurrency all market needs correction. Some old coin should die without developing or update because this type of project hasn't strong community. That is hard to accept that some new coin also die in future although this coin already listed in good exchange with good volume. Altcoins acceleration will start after ETH blockchain 2.0.

When we say we "flushed out" all the nonsense project in the market we are talking about completely eradicating them from the market which in this case didn't really happen at all. The bear market might have slowed down the demand for this junk projects but it really affected the crypto market overall. Besides do you really think that it will stop because of the bear market? With the ever growing industry we have it doesn't matter on whether we are in the bear market or the bull market since the interest for investors as well as the junk projects and scams will always be there especially when you think that the advantage they have on this industry being run digitally it would be easy for them to cover their asses and hide their tracks.

It doesn´t matter hat you expect as a retail investor. It was proven that you need only 100 millions of USD to manipulate the market, just 12 500 Bitcoins.
What does information give to you? That this market is very very small and we need more money into it, nothing else. You can´t predict anything when someone could easily manipulate ir, right.

I won't agree tat the crypto winter did flush out these rubbish projects until exchanges start delisting them and have no place to trade them, there are thousands of tokens today trading on exchanges, even some on Binance that have no reason to still be trading. I have said before some of these tokens would pump during another bull run, just wait and see.

Those tokens that weren't distributed yet are waiting for the bullrun to actually happen and once its confirmed, they will pay exchanges to list their token which the token price will also go up. Right now they are in hibernation and will just wake up one day to surprise us its not listed on a scam exchange but were trading with a volume up to 100kUSD.

We all expect the best for crypto world, many project will came with new idea & platform, good news about bitcoin adoption and hackers get arrested. My opinion is classic but that's our hope, as bounty hunter we're wasting time and energy in 2018 - 2019. My wallet already full with shit coin and i don't know how to clean it. I'm really happy about bounty using popular coin ( btc, eth, etc ) reward, even difficult to get involve but this is good for us. Let's pray in 2020 many bounty release with popular coin, it will make forum stay alive and crypto look's interesting again.

Without a doubt many projects disappeared because of the bear market that we experimented, the problem is that as soon as a coin disappears it is replaced by another one, scammers are never going to get tired of this game because they are obtaining profits even in such difficult market conditions, there are still people that out of desperation for their losses that they have accumulated through the months or even the years decide to gamble away all the capital that they have and see if they can make money with a new coin.

We know what is going to be the outcome of such investment but as long as scammers keep obtaining even small profits out of those useless projects then they will keep replacing those failed coins and people will keep falling on those scams in a cycle that doesn't seem to have any kind of end

Under the recent market, circumstances expecting the %10 weekly increase will be very naive behavior for the average traders, especially in the crypto markets. The alt season will come eventually but trying to catch the falling knife can cost a lot. The crypto world is changing itself and the toxic projects will be excluded from the crypto ecosystem with the bear market or regulations.

This year is not a worrying year in my opinion it is not the right thing, there is always concern with every investment made by everyone when what they predict is not in accordance with what happened they will start to worry about the next step they will take and this is reasonable thing. Indeed, the previous year has taught us a lot about how we can continue to survive in cryptocurrency and maybe this year will be a year that provides good news for us all.

Although there's no clear parameter how you could determine whether a market is maturing or not, it's true that the massive bearish market and the stable price have succesfully getting rid of all the wannabe and shit project. At this point I expect the current project that could survive the winter of crypto to function and deliver their promise thus contribute to the whole crypto community.

It's called ATH for a reason and most of commodities or currency will always have its highest point. To compare the ATH and the current price is by no means depressing considering back then most of crypto was really overvalued.

It did flushed out many nonsense projects but it does not stop nonsense project to appearing in the crypto space.  And I think crypto asset adoption will move the same way as before because the crypto space is yet to be regulated and lots of scam projects are still emerging.  Crypto adoption will be accelerated once these scam projects is stopped from reaching the crypto market through regulations.

This year may be a year without worries, what we experienced some time ago made some people stop and not continue their steps here, but now good fortune has been seen, everyone here is equally struggling to recover prices and improve cryptocurrency and used as an option for business. Hopefully this trend continues and continues to experience good fortune. And I think all of us have also learned a lot from moments back

Yes, I believe that this year things are definitely going to turn around for the better . I have seen a lot of people tag cryptocurrencies as dead through out last year (2019) because of the price decreased, and that was the same thing they did before the last time the price an all time high; whenever the price goes up and falls they start with news that it’s going to die.

They are still going to be disappointed again because cryptocurrency is not going to die, they will all continue to go high, except those bad ones, they will all die off and the good ones will stay.

I'd liked to call it a purge and it's just right that these shitcoins and useless coins should get out in the market, 2020 is very much different now, because, investors are now maturing, any new projects will be scrutinized and every project will be screened, the market now is better because now only projects that has huge potential can get in.

The reality is that most of the crypto market is just speculation. Most crypto projects are created only for speculation, and continue to be created for the same purposes, albeit on a much smaller scale. However, 2019 showed that sooner or later any speculative financial bubble comes to the point of no return and that ultimately leads to its collapse. Only real businesses and working ideas in the crypto sector will survive in the future, for me this is obvious.

It is a pity that so many projects are in hibernation and no news is heard from them, and some even stopped giving feedback. What should happen to start a bull run?

there are no nonsense projects only they don't achieve what they are targeting for example softcap or hardcap on their projects so they leave the project and give hope to others to wait for projects that are really dead, the bear market is long killing dead crypto projects, plus some many crypto exchanges are closed, adoption cannot be done that fast, let's see in 2020 hopefully it will bring good effect to the better crypto market that is everyone's hope

All people who are in cryptocurrency also expect this of course, but what will happen later we do not know, hopefully what you hope can happen. For me personally it is true that for now it is better to keep holding the coins we have and wait for the right time to sell them, don't rush in making decisions and keep trying to look for opportunities on a coin that can provide benefits.

Yes, I totally agree with this.
Due to the fact that fake project makers will continue to innovate and take root even in the latest systems. Because of money, they are always looking for ways to get it easily and of course according to the latest circumstances. What we need is a platform that can filter all the projects that go into bitcointalk so that it can clean this room of the parasites. In this way, a trust will grow slowly which acceleration in the adoption of crypto assets.

I know that in 2018-2019 it is a dark year for bitcoin because it does not appear to be the highest bitcoin and coin, I know this is also speculation about bitcoin as I used to hope the bear market will go this year.
Perhaps because of the effects of many scamer of new projects so that year bitcoin experienced a very drastic decline.
But this year a lot of adoption about blockchain block and this will involve various countries and this is also a lot of news about this year's big event, hopefully it will happen.

I think if you are a good investor, you will have to adapt to different stages and during the past 2 years, I still make good profits from this market and have a reasonable investment strategy. I never predicted the future of this market but it is likely that this year will be the year most people look forward to and hope that the market will be bustling again like 2017.

Of course, it takes a lot of factors for this market to rise but instead of waiting, you should learn some new knowledge and find ways to make money during this time.

Comparing the price of bitcoin everytime with the ATH of $19K would surely be depressing. But bitcoin still has a high price and enough volatility for traders to make a profit.
Bitcoin would certainly rise to new ATH one day but it's not a good idea to call last year and this year a crypto winter when many of the alts have rise by folds.

But there will be so much more nonsense projects with the next bull market. The amount of them will be insane compared to last time. I am not sure in what form they will come but they will come, and they will be copycats of those who succeed this time. If those were originally icos, there will be more icos, if nfts, there will be even more nfts and so on...

Well said.

The bear market was actually a positive event in the sense that it got rid of a lot of projects that had absolutely nothing to do in the cryptospace, were flat out clones and/or had fake teams and no development roadmap, etc. etc.

These projects, created for the sole purpose of furthering the founder's wealth, deserved to die off during the bear market. You could almost see it as crypto's way of self-cleansing

After a prolonged fall in 2018, many expected a reversal in 2019. But that didn't happen. Now everyone is expecting it in 2020. I think that it is not necessary to hope for a turn, for the long-awaited bull run. Learn how to make money in any market and then life will be much easier.

The only project that delivers the product and good progress are being adopted by the crypto users. Just take a look at so many scams and fraud platforms are getting eliminated caused by the trend but it's very sad to see so many investor's money is getting robbed by the scammer and this is not a good thing that might happen before. if crypto can be considered as a place to store value and it must become a commodity like bitcoin but the majority of cryptos are assets which mean it can also be considered as security and not so many crypto can be used to store our value.

I think this year will be a good year for crypto, i expect to have a new ATH maybe, but more after halving i think will happen, we can only wait and try get some more coins and hold them for bull run.

We have the same hope and principle for this year. It wouldn't be winter all of the time and there's always the moment to be expected as the opposite of it.
Just noticed the pumping of bitcoin within few hours but then it has corrected quickly but isn't it a good sign for early this year?

Can't agree more with that. Ethereum is good, it's evolving but slowly, it's a Legacy and old blockchain.
The way you describe that new tech looks really interesting. I had to take a look.
I understand Helios is aiming to develop a decentralized web platform, what we commonly call the Web 3.0.
From this article, it looks like Web 3.0 will be the new face of the word wide web in the next coming years, and it is satisfying to see Helios Protocol leading the way on the blockchain front.
https://blockgeeks.com/guides/web-3-0/

We can easily see that the development in terms of adoption continues unceasingly. The only issue with the crypto market is about the bloody prices, especially in altcoins. But, since 2018 the thoughts are positive about 2020. Every time prices went down, the majority kept their last bullet for this year. Indeed, we all know that nothing is certain. Nevertheless, expectations and thoughts are positive.

If you read the post properly, you will see that the user said "many nonsense project" by which he meant most of the projects that made unrealistic promise and probably was talking about shitcoins too. He never said anything about all shitcoins being gone for good. But I am not sure how a dropping of the price is actually helping us clear out the shitcoins. Like as if the price are related to bitcoin in anyway. And also, wouldn't they be able to chip in more coins when the price of Bitcoin is lower?

ive said similar things as this, so i agree.   
most of these projects are not original, they are only following in a firsts footsteps, and trying to capitalize on their mistakes
like how many smart contract "dapp" coins do we need?  its funny when 1/2 of them are ERC20 tokens too, like wut? haha
thats why in 10 years only maybe 25 of the top 200 will even be alive anymore imo

Crypto winter is old news, institutional money is in now,every 5% gain will be followed by big money taking profits and dumping it again : /

 
It doesn't mean the ones that are left today does make sense to still be in the market.  There are still projects up there that weren't purged, the team are just too great at making their project look good that its been trading in many platforms. If they are going to be alive til the next bullrun, they are going to be here in crypto for life. A coin that cost less than a cent today may cost $1 by the time the bulls rally, looks good to buy them now.

Honestly out of 100 new projects out today its hard to see 10 of them really living up to their standards, its better to look for something new, something that we never had in crypto space that can fix issues, these projects are the only ones that will succeed

Who tell you the all so called Shitcoins have been flourished away, just wait for the bull run to start then you will see some projects that have hibernated for months wake up from their sleep, what this period teaches is that market goes up and down, that even good projects is also affected

The entire cryptocurrency market and all investors are hungry for good information and price increases. I think the bear market is already behind us and now spring for altcoins will start. Of course, we can't expect 10% increases every day, but I think 10% per week is quite real for the cryptocurrency market.

It's simple really. If you want to have a chance of making it big like in 2017 then you have to pick a few coins that are actively developed and actually have a use or solve existing crypto problems. These coins will bring something new to the market. Any of the old coins that have not brought anything new or don't really have a use will hopefully wither and die off.
There is a place for smart contract coins that bring something new or a better way to do things than existing options should do well. What i don't get is why people just loyally stick to a project because it's one of the biggest or oldest. There are way better options than Ethereum out there now for instance. Remember the crypto kitties fiasco where the Eth network got blocked up and fees went sky high? Nothing much has changed since to mitigate that happening again.
Blockchain tech is truly groundbreaking and will justifiably take over how things are done in time. But again there is a better option called Dags. now if you can marry dag with multiple blockchains then you truly have something that can scale and keep scaling.
That tech is just being born right now and has the potential to change everything. A little hint for anyone who is really interested in how the future could look, take a look at the project in my signature. Read about it and decide for yourselves. sometimes it just doesn't pay to stick to the old ways

Many coins disappeared and many are on the verge of disappearing, you are not wrong on that but for every coin that disappeared two or three took their place and the market is still full of bad coins that no one cares about.

The most important is the change in the attitude of most investors, many are not bothering themselves with new altcoins anymore and only care about bitcoin and a few selected altcoins but if a new bull market comes and many newbie investors come to this market then you can be sure those coins will receive massive investment once again since those newbies will not know anything about the history of this market and how bad those coins really are.

Nice evaluation you got there. Let's hope things turn out in our favour.

The crypto winter of 2018 and 2019 did flushed out many nonsense projects and the market has significantly matured over the last few years, it's exactly what i expect from the long crypto bear market.

In this year i expect accelerating crypto asset adoption and the key building blocks will come into place for crypto to achieve it's long term potential of revolutionizing how value can be stored and send around the world.