Topic: RECOVER BITCOIN.COM DOMAIN NAME (Read 201 times)

LOL you failed
dollars : bitcoin
US dollars : bitcoin CORE

your confusing yourself by proclaiming US dollars are the only dollars
australia are not proclaiming to sell US dollars at a AU rate
australia are selling AU dollars at the AU rate

i doubt anyone paid euro0.62 for a U.S dollar
i doubt anyone paid euro0.82 for a A.U dollar

i doubt anyone paid under $1500 for a btc
i doubt anyone paid over $8500 for a bch

EG
if you had 620euros and you wanted a dollar. first you need to mention you want U.S or A.U.
if not
you would if on an australian website get 1000 A.U dollars
you would if on an american website get 750 U.S dollars

if you then made the realisation of the mistake you made of receiving 1000 A.U dollars. you can just buy U.S dollars with your A.U dollars
giving you 750 U.S dollars..
yep you end up getting the same amount as you would if you simply proclaimed that you want U.S dollars

EG
if you had 1000 and you wanted bitcoin. first you need to mention you want core or cash.
if not
you would if on an cash website get 0.666 bitcoin cash
you would if on an american website get 0.1 bitcoin core

if you then made the realisation of the mistake you made of receiving 0.666 bitcoin cash. you can just buy bitcoin core with your bitcoin cash
giving you 0.1 bitcoin core..
yep you end up getting the same amount as you would if you simply proclaimed that you wanted bitcoin core

now..
remember.. vrey argument you have about bitcoin.com
swap .com with .org
and you can have the same argument that .org is over promoting bitcoin core as the one and only.

EG

dollar.org:  US dollar is the only dollar. AU is just a crap currency thats a fraud, fake and not real. no one uses au dollar and no one should ever buy
au dollars. we at dollar.org want to take dollar.com off of australia because australian are not anything to do with dollars. we need to centralise dollar to only being owned by the U.S

bitcoin.org:  bitcoin core is the only bitcoin. cash is just a crap currency thats a fraud, fake and not real. no one uses bitcoincash and no one should ever buy bitcoin cash. we at bitcoin.org want to take bitcoin.com off of bitcoin cash because bitcoin cash are not anything to do with bitcoin. we need to centralise bitcoin to only being owned by core

now take the core defence cap off. and true take 2 steps back and see the big picture of decentralisation
and please dont rebut with anything that rsembles that core network is the only bitcoin.

the fork seen to that. (research bilateral split)

We are talking about him owning Bitcoin.com and NOT representing the greatest financial instrument humankind has ever produced. It will be a huge deal when bitcoin touches $100,000. (Spiderman)

it doesn't matter who owns  a website as long as they are not pushing their own personal opinion down the reader's throats. specially when they are misleading newbies.
unfortunately bitcoin.org guys are no better in this case, last year they tried convincing everyone that bitcoin fees need to be high. they even removed every trace of "cheap fee" from bitcoin.org and if we let them they will eliminate every trace of bitcoin being a currency too because a lot of code devs are idiotically thinking bitcoin is a "store of value" not a "currency".

all you can say is that what Roger Ver is doing should be stopped immediately. or we as a community need to fight back. there is no centralized authority to fight for us.

1- America/Australia/Canada dollars are NOT forks
2- America/Australia/Canada are NOT selling you US dollars and then give you Australian dollars (like bitcoin.com does confusing newbies)
3- Australia/Canada are NOT saying all the f*cking day that their dollars are the REAL dollars, and talking sh*t about US dollars.

As Max Keiser said: “Bitcoin cash is an alt-coin that has its fans just like many alt-coins. I don't think anyone who uses bitcoin's name and applies it to an alt-coin like bitcoin cash does is adhering to acceptable business practices. In other words, bitcoin's brand is being stolen by a competitor that calls itself bitcoin cash and this is outright fraud in my opinion, just like it's fraudulent to use Coca-Cola and Nike's name to sell soft drinks or shoes.”

We can't dispute and recover the domain on just some beliefs.He's the owner, he can run a porn gallery & still it will impossible to recover it by a dispute.
As an owner, it's his decision to make.

That guys is a businessman and will act for his profits always.I mean,  replace him with me & I would have done the same things.That guy seems to care more about him than others.Most people do.Lets deal with it .-.

How would one file a lawsuit to a person who clearly isn't doing anything wrong by just holding the domain? I mean, bitcoin has no registered trademark or whatsoever so why is this necessary? It's true that Roger has misled some people using the site but that's not enough grounds for a lawsuit re: domain but more of a fraud. There's no way that court rulings will hint towards him being stripped off of the ownership of the said domain name . He'd be likely placed behind bars or pay a fine but taking the website off of his ownership via a lawsuit regarding fraud isn"t gonna happen IMO.

and core is using bitcoin.org to promote bitcoin core as bitcoin.. maybe the community should take bitcoin .org off theymos's hands aswell as bitcoin.com off vers hands. and then treat bitcoin like dollar... EG
bitcoin core as U.S dollar
bitcoin cash as A.U dollar

meaning no bias
but im guessing all im gonna see are arguments that core monarchy should own "bitcoin", if so, get a tissue, your nose is a lil brown, and your lips are a lil chapped

It's just a site. If it was requisitioned to save us all then all one needs to do is get another domain and start spending until it's up the top again.

It's someone's opinion. It's up to users to sift through all of the agendas out there and find something that works for them. Otherwise we may as well give up on the whole thing and go back to banking fun because at heart it's appealing to authority again.

If you don't dig it then get to work on whybitcoindotcomsucksbutt.com and get it up those search results.

As much as we wanted to recover bitcoin.com from Roger Ver our hands are really tied. Only thing I can think of right now is to:

1. Offer him money to relinquished the domain
2. File a lawsuit

However, since he has a lot of money, I don't think that we even have a chance against (1) and the second option might be drag for years and might involved money which we don't have it right now. I mean who will cover the cost for the bitcoin community? I know he's using the domain to promote Bitcoin Cash as the real Bitcoin that Satoshi envisioned, and that is completely wrong. But what can do we is to educate newbies around and inform them who the man behind that domain and what is his real intentions are.

before rebutting with anything that resembles defending core and thinking bitcoin core deserve full and sole ownership of "bitcoin" ask yourself this
1. isnt handing bitcoin.com to one central group (core team) anti-decentralisation
2. replace the word "bitcoin core" with U.S dollar.. "bitcoin cash" with canadian dollar. and BITCOIN with "dollar"
then take a step back and run your rebuttle argument through your mind.
(imagine having your bitcoin argument but talking about fiat dollar and  america vs canada)

P.S
try your hardest to not wear the U.S / core defensive cap when following point 2. instead wear a "bitcoin decentralised" cap



theymos/cobra and the core clan already own too much of "bitcoin"

so here we ago again
NO ONE OWNS BITCOIN. and core definetly should not. this "ver drama" is all just a ploy to hand the brand and trademark to one central team

lets make it simple, bitcoin brand is like dollar brand

america have dollar
australia have dollar
canada have dollar

in normal conversation a canadaian CAN happily say they have dollars in their pocket but it aint U.S dollar
in normal conversation a american CAN happily say they have dollars in their pocket but it aint canadian dollar

an australian forex CAN put.. "buy dollars or buy U.S dollars"
an american forex CAN put.. "buy dollars or buy A.U dollars"
a bitcoin core exchange can put buy bitcoin or buy bitcoin cash
a bitcoin cash exchange can put buy bitcoin or buy bitcoin core

EG
if a european wants dollars, so the conversation is.. "do you want U.S at ~0.8Eur/$ or A.U at ~0.6/$"
if a fiat holder wants bitcoin, so the conversation is.. "do you want core at ~$9,000k or cash ~$900"

so the conversation is there is U.S dollar AND A.U dollar
so the conversation is there is bitcoin core and bitcoin cash

there would only be fraud if Australia was selling australian dollar at the american dollar rate

there would only be fraud if bitcoin cash was selling bitcoin cash coins at the bitcoin core rate

an american can say "i got 99 dollars but a A.U dollar aint one"
an australian can say "i got 99 dollars but a U.S dollar aint one"

an american cannot say "australia is fake,fraud, non existant, a myth, a dream they dont have dollars"

once you stop being a foolish sheep protecting core as a centralist group... and instead ignore the core team and think about DECENTRALISATION and noone should own bitcoin. then you see that this social drama of lawsuits/banning/reporting. is just cencorsip to drive out consensus/decentralisation/competition.. and just promote centralisation towards the core team becoming a monarchy

so, how did it all occur you may ask..

the 2017 event was a bilateral split instigated by the core team and their partners (blockstream: samson mow... Bloq:jgarzic) to do a bilateral split where BOTH SIDES become an altcoin
yes both blockstream guys and bloq guys(the main paid devs involved in core) who are all paid by the same investors created both bitcoin core and bitcoin cash
yes we all know that the core team are point fingers at jihan and ver.. but it was actually BLOQ that made bitcoin cash.. yes thats how desparate to cause propaganda they are that they wont admit their own partner made it

anyway the bilateral fork..
unlike UNILATERAL forks like clams. .

its not a
_________________core
            \_________cash
(unilateral)

or a
             _________core
_______/_________cash
(unilateral)

but was a
           __________core
______/
          \__________cash
(biilateral)

yes BOTH sides split

this whole thing would not have happened if the bilateral split did not occur and REAL consensus was used. but no.. core hated that they only had 35% of the vote and so forced a bilateral split using their partner and then tried blaming a third person.
(facepalm) at cores shadiness to try making bitcoin centralised


so. the solution is simple..
when thinking of bitcoin. think of it as the same conversation you would have travelling around the world and talking about dollar.
"is that U.S, A.U. CAD your talking about/want"

then things become simple

if anyone sent coins to the wrong address.. just get the private key from the wallet and use it on the correct wallet for the coin that got sent

as for the lawsuit.
(analogy) i doubt anyone bought a A.U dollar at a U.S rate
(analogy) i doubt anyone bought a U.S dollar at a A.U rate

i doubt anyone bought a bitcoin cash coin at a bitcoin core rate
i doubt anyone bought a bitcoin core coin at a bitcoin cash rate
so no fraud.

It could be possible, but I wouldn't bet on it. This guy has a lot of power and I would bet he would squash any lawsuit coming his way. I wouldn't be against taking this action though, I just don't know what kind of results to expect.

DOMAIN INFORMATION:

Registrar: NameCheap Inc.
Registrant Name: Roger Ver (known as the bitcoin terrorist n.1)
Registrant Organization: Saint Bitts LLC
Registrant Street: 858 Zenway Blvd
Registrant City: Frigate Bay
Registrant State/Province: none
Registrant Postal Code: none
Registrant Country: KN
Registrant Phone: +1.8697631853
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4084865650
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]

Bitcoin.com domain name is too important to be owned by Roger's own interests/business

Who do you think should have it? Bitcoin.org? the community? and what for?

Would you agree if Bitcoin.org claim it to the ICANN? (like many brands/celebrities did)

Related: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/dispute-resolution-2012-02-25-en