Red trust = 0 stakes in any bounty campaign?

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Quote from: pghr12aditya_s on June 17, 2018, 11:53:01 PM

I'm managing one of the bounty campaigns and one of the translators got a red trust for excessive and blatant merit farming.
In my opinion, this person should not get any stakes.

But this guy is abusing me and threatening that he'll get me a negative trust. Just seeking suggestions on what are possible
courses of action for me here. Suggestions are welcome.

Before the start of your bounty campaign you should have at least put clearly the rules such as, red trust accounts doesn't get any stakes/payments upon applying. And about the negative trust, only DTs staffs can make someone's trust negative/red but still you can put some negative trust on his side if he keeps on trolling or harassing you, after all it is just our own opinion why we put a negative trust so such users.

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whatever it is, all the rules should be announced before start of the bounty program to avoid unnecessary misunderstandings and debates. because lately is not just a matter of red trust but there are many other problems that are often a debate such as KYC, Gas fee and others

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on June 18, 2018, 04:24:43 AM

If you've set at start the rules that negative feedback makes users lose their stakes, they you may have to proceed, else others should give you negative feedback for cheating them.
If you didn't set such a rule and you find such a rule fair, ... it's harder to change the rules in the middle of the game, but maybe you give him the stakes until now (since there were no rules).

I agree with this mate, if you set such a rules in your campaign that earning a negative feedback while enrolled will cause suspension of payment, you have the right to suspend his/her payment. But if you don't, you don't have the right obviously even though you're the campaign manager.

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Quote from: pghr12aditya_s on June 17, 2018, 11:53:01 PM

I'm managing one of the bounty campaigns and one of the translators got a red trust for excessive and blatant merit farming.
In my opinion, this person should not get any stakes.

But this guy is abusing me and threatening that he'll get me a negative trust. Just seeking suggestions on what are possible
courses of action for me here. Suggestions are welcome.

This is deep and not as straight forward as it seems the reason why I would say you should call his bluff would be

1. Did you put it as part of the conditions that anyone who gets a negative trust would be denied payment? If yes then you don't owe him anything if no, then you still have the can call him bluff and if he gives you a negative trust, he would only be wasting his time because it won't show to others since he is not a DT member.

2. On the otherhand, you need to also take a step further to justify you action. The service you require from him, did he discharge it fully without cheating if yes, then I would say on a personal note cut his pay and let it slide however, if its proven that he has cheated in discharging such duty, fall back to earlier suggestion.

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If you had rule that you aren't paying to participants who have red trust rating - you don't have to pay him. Otherwise you are forced to pay if you didn't had this rule.
And you don't need to worry if he will give you negative trust rating. That guy isn't DT member and if he will leave negative trust rating, it wont affect your trust score and nobody will pay attention to that feedback.
My message to you and other bounty managers - please don't accept users with negative trust - it gives bad reptutation to the project and it also harms reputation of bounty manager.

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Quote from: pghr12aditya_s on June 17, 2018, 11:53:01 PM

I'm managing one of the bounty campaigns and one of the translators got a red trust for excessive and blatant merit farming.
In my opinion, this person should not get any stakes.

But this guy is abusing me and threatening that he'll get me a negative trust. Just seeking suggestions on what are possible
courses of action for me here. Suggestions are welcome.

Didn't you included to the bounty rule that if someone gets a red trust he'll no longer eligible to join the campaign and receive a payment?

Quote from: NeuroticFish on June 18, 2018, 04:24:43 AM

And I think that in most cases the feedback from DT (and maybe high ranks too, I don't know for sure, maybe somebody gives more exact info) is the one that makes the account become "red".
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Maybe somebody can give clearer info about when negative feedback makes the account red and when it doesn't.

It becomes red to the person who gave him red trust alongside with people that put that person(red trust feedback giver) on their trust list.

If OP's concern is he's afraid to get a red trust, that red feedback won't show to everybody except that guy.

But if you are concern about eligibility of his payment, as a campaign manager you have to set your own rules and you've got to stick with your own words.

This is why campaign managing isn't an easy thing to do.

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Quote from: pghr12aditya_s on June 17, 2018, 11:53:01 PM

I'm managing one of the bounty campaigns and one of the translators got a red trust for excessive and blatant merit farming.
In my opinion, this person should not get any stakes.

But this guy is abusing me and threatening that he'll get me a negative trust. Just seeking suggestions on what are possible
courses of action for me here. Suggestions are welcome.

Depending on the rules you had set out when you start up the program or bounty.Some bounty campaigns do allowed negative trust users and most of the time they arent. So basically, if you had set out this one since the beginning then that negative trust would be effective and he should really be removed and would not deserve any stakes and dont mind him when hes harassing you since he cant do anything. Negative trust? Dont be afraid only DT had the capability on putting red paints on everyones account.

evandy

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Should you talk with them, explain to them. Another way, when you create a thread about bounty, you should first talk detail about red trust.

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you have given just few info. If we knew more of the rules you set we could say more. Just for example if you had mentioned that accounts with negative trust doesn't receive stakes. Than you yourseve can make a request to admin that this person is abusing you. If not, well better check his translation. It hard work. I'm making translations myself, and perfectly understand that person if he hasn't slept for several nights just to finish your translation faster

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as far as I know if someone who gets a red trust account is difficult to join the project. dn very few projects are accepted. if he joins and works for the project it is just useless to get nothing. but if diya threaten to get rewards. You are the manager why you should be afraid.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on June 18, 2018, 04:24:43 AM

Quote from: pghr12aditya_s on June 17, 2018, 11:53:01 PM

I'm managing one of the bounty campaigns and one of the translators got a red trust for excessive and blatant merit farming.
In my opinion, this person should not get any stakes.

If you've set at start the rules that negative feedback makes users lose their stakes, they you may have to proceed, else others should give you negative feedback for cheating them.
If you didn't set such a rule and you find such a rule fair, ... it's harder to change the rules in the middle of the game, but maybe you give him the stakes until now (since there were no rules).

Quote from: pghr12aditya_s on June 17, 2018, 11:53:01 PM

But this guy is abusing me and threatening that he'll get me a negative trust. Just seeking suggestions on what are possible
courses of action for me here. Suggestions are welcome.

This is a more complicated story. Negative feedback, especially retaliatory negative feedback does happen and you should have thought about that when you started to manage the campaign.
After all negative feedback is somebody's personal opinion - fair or unfair - and it's not regulated. And yes, I know that this can make your account useless (for bounties), depending on who that red trust is (and that's why I know it's more complicated).
And I think that in most cases the feedback from DT (and maybe high ranks too, I don't know for sure, maybe somebody gives more exact info) is the one that makes the account become "red".

If you can be easily threatened by a cheater (if it's the case), then maybe bounty campaign management is not for you. Sorry if it sounds harsh...
Maybe somebody can give clearer info about when negative feedback makes the account red and when it doesn't.

You are right it depends on how he set the rules at the beginning of that campaign,but I thik he should get the stakes because that is a translation campaign so the trust of the person is not important other than the signature campaign so if he done his translation work then it is fair to allocate his stake in my opinion.

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Quote from: pghr12aditya_s on June 17, 2018, 11:53:01 PM

I'm managing one of the bounty campaigns and one of the translators got a red trust for excessive and blatant merit farming.
In my opinion, this person should not get any stakes.

If you've set at start the rules that negative feedback makes users lose their stakes, they you may have to proceed, else others should give you negative feedback for cheating them.
If you didn't set such a rule and you find such a rule fair, ... it's harder to change the rules in the middle of the game, but maybe you give him the stakes until now (since there were no rules).

Quote from: pghr12aditya_s on June 17, 2018, 11:53:01 PM

But this guy is abusing me and threatening that he'll get me a negative trust. Just seeking suggestions on what are possible
courses of action for me here. Suggestions are welcome.

This is a more complicated story. Negative feedback, especially retaliatory negative feedback does happen and you should have thought about that when you started to manage the campaign.
After all negative feedback is somebody's personal opinion - fair or unfair - and it's not regulated. And yes, I know that this can make your account useless (for bounties), depending on who that red trust is (and that's why I know it's more complicated).
And I think that in most cases the feedback from DT (and maybe high ranks too, I don't know for sure, maybe somebody gives more exact info) is the one that makes the account become "red".

If you can be easily threatened by a cheater (if it's the case), then maybe bounty campaign management is not for you. Sorry if it sounds harsh...
Maybe somebody can give clearer info about when negative feedback makes the account red and when it doesn't.

pghr12aditya_s

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I'm managing one of the bounty campaigns and one of the translators got a red trust for excessive and blatant merit farming.
In my opinion, this person should not get any stakes.

But this guy is abusing me and threatening that he'll get me a negative trust. Just seeking suggestions on what are possible
courses of action for me here. Suggestions are welcome.

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