Red trust account users can still introduce good bounties

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 17, 2019, 10:48:12 PM

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum

members with red trust means they comitted a mistake

Mistake are always means they committed it.

not really tho. i have seen a couple of users on the past that are only posting but they dont scam people or do any other bad doings but they still got negged by some users . idk maybe the accuser dont like the post of the user that he gave he gave a neg trust. i think this was the reason why some campaign especially the bounty ones still accept red trusted accounts and make an excuse depending on how severe the account was

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

Yes red trust accounts are being used to join some bounties.
But I think only few are still around I think most of the bounty hunters are already tired and sick of being scammed for their work.
And accepting a red trust account on bounty or signature campaign all depends on the bounty manager there are some who are willing to accept them and there are some who are strict .

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Quote from: tukagero on November 17, 2019, 10:16:31 PM

Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

members with red trust means they comitted a mistake which is not allowed in this forum, and most of red trust members are not accepted on bounty campaigns because this might give some low profile to the project.

Yes, you are right, without doing anything other people will not give red trust to the users. Red trust is a very indication which we will not deal with them any more, same thing with the bounty campaign the owners will not encourage them to promote the campaigns. That's why most of the bounty managers will not allow negative trust users.

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Quote from: tukagero on November 17, 2019, 10:16:31 PM

Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

members with red trust means they comitted a mistake which is not allowed in this forum, and most of red trust members are not accepted on bounty campaigns because this might give some low profile to the project.

Mistake are always means they committed it. Some red trust have been allegedly apply to those suspicious one. I know of red trust managers but clearly they have been affected only on the complained of some participants in the campaign but it doesn't mean his guilty of whatever he did. Cause sometime, carelessly they accept projects that pay them for their services but chances that the project could be a scam is still feasible. When that happened on the latter, of course in some way manager is also responsible for promoting it. Anway just avoid some red trust people to deal with but dont judge them directly cause not all are guilty of having red trust.

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

members with red trust means they comitted a mistake which is not allowed in this forum, and most of red trust members are not accepted on bounty campaigns because this might give some low profile to the project.

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Quote from: Aabcde on November 17, 2019, 06:38:04 PM

Yes indeed, someone who has been hit by a red trust has been labeled as a negative offender. But if we talk on occasion, I think users affected by the red trust may have the ability to promote, or make articles, videos better than normal users.
I am not defending them but just trying to see other possibilities. On the other hand, bounty managers should also pay more attention to them when they join bounties that BM handles. Because just in case they do not commit fraud again as they have previously obtained.

For sure, someone given a red trust is most probably violating a forum rule. That is the presumption. We always think that there is a reason for the respective staff or moderator for giving a particular member that tag. And we also presume that the reason is itself reasonable. But we cannot also say that all red tags are perfectly done or are deserving. But if we talk of skills and abilities red tags do not usually reflect them. Unless the tags are for copying other works or plagiarism.

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Yes indeed, someone who has been hit by a red trust has been labeled as a negative offender. But if we talk on occasion, I think users affected by the red trust may have the ability to promote, or make articles, videos better than normal users.
I am not defending them but just trying to see other possibilities. On the other hand, bounty managers should also pay more attention to them when they join bounties that BM handles. Because just in case they do not commit fraud again as they have previously obtained.

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Quote from: Brunus on November 17, 2019, 06:27:39 AM

A red trust can be a sign of abuse and dishonesty, but many times it is given by someone just for envy or personal dislike.
Someone will remember that there were moderators who gave red trusts to everyone for really meaningless things.

You will get red trusted only if you behave in shady behavior and there were some shady characters in the mod positions in the past but they are not longer holding those position but majority of their decisions were meaningful and if they are not taking care of those shady activities the forum would have been a spam land a long back and now there are new users who are taking care of it, you only need to worry when dealing with a user if there is a red trust from DT members as they do not usually put negatives without concrete reasons.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 17, 2019, 12:41:25 PM

Quote from: zenhu on November 17, 2019, 08:58:19 AM

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There are various reason why someone will get red trust in this forum and I think it doesn't matter when it comes to bounty because I have worked under bounty managers who had red trust but still managed the bounty perfectly and got rewards as well unlike scam projects, there are bounty manager who got red trust just because they were a part of scam projects without their knowledge as they missed to do proper background checks.

Yeah sometime when we join a bounty campaign that manage by red trust member we can get huge reward unlike campaign by netral member. It because people just looking at their reputation forum and don't know exactly what the project is.

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I believe by @SocialCloud managing the projects even if they are still Red trust account but still they can introduce good bounty projects in the thread. In this case if the red trust account can still make a good reputation it should be clear his name for the mistakes he/she has done to served as a model in the community.

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Quote from: Ferris419 on November 17, 2019, 12:53:53 PM

Yes, sometimes the red trust bounty manager brings a high-class bounty campaign than a regular bounty manager. Recently Alchemy bounty attracted me, that project is too good and I have a plan to do that bounty but you know what, the bounty manager has several red trusts! Therefore Wapinter has red trust for over years but still, he is coming with good bounties regularly! So, it doesn’t matter who is managing the bounty, the project only matters here!

Yeah, I also think like that. Red or Green trust manager, can't give us guarantee offer a good bounty, but both can be a good campaign manager, yes it can be. Also Wapinter is one of my favorite campaign manager, most of his campaign ended well and participants got their pay.

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Quote from: bassbity on November 15, 2019, 10:29:40 PM

@SocialCloud good manager , there are many bounties that he managed well before, but he was given a red trust because in his bounty he was capellaenergy scamed and he didn't know anything about just launching the bounty and the team was not responsible for all this.
Sessia is a successful project managed with red trusts

I agree notice this also some of the boynty project handlie by the red trust manager are get success, some of the red trust account get mark because he/she didn't know the deicde plan of the devs thats why they get red trust people accused as scammer.

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

I believe that the red trust should not affect the user's participation in the bounty.Any startup does not care who and how advertises project.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on November 17, 2019, 10:36:07 AM

Redtrush on the bounty manager will affect the trust of participants in the bounty that is managed, indeed the bounty that is managed is not necessarily scam or fake, but of course participants will lose interest because there is a redtrush that indicates the manager has made a mistake so that the redtrush is given. I myself still check projects that are managed if I find majaer with redtrush.

As stated in the topic, it is possible to consider at the issue differently when red trust members are the bounty managers. Being a BM is not as easy as it seems from the edge. As a hunter, you only lose $10-15, but BM loses his monthly effort, money and reputation. Actually, others do not hurt, but your reputation for years is ruined by an any damn project. Now, change sides and consider the theme from the other side.

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Yes, sometimes the red trust bounty manager brings a high-class bounty campaign than a regular bounty manager. Recently Alchemy bounty attracted me, that project is too good and I have a plan to do that bounty but you know what, the bounty manager has several red trusts! Therefore Wapinter has red trust for over years but still, he is coming with good bounties regularly! So, it doesn’t matter who is managing the bounty, the project only matters here!

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Quote from: zenhu on November 17, 2019, 08:58:19 AM

I think the project is not the problem, we must know the reason an account got red trust from forum. If that caused the owner's mistake that doesn't mean all project that announced by them are bad project.
Its all depend on us, how we can find good project and avoid scam project, choose your project wisely.

There are various reason why someone will get red trust in this forum and I think it doesn't matter when it comes to bounty because I have worked under bounty managers who had red trust but still managed the bounty perfectly and got rewards as well unlike scam projects, there are bounty manager who got red trust just because they were a part of scam projects without their knowledge as they missed to do proper background checks.

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Quote from: bassbity on November 15, 2019, 10:29:40 PM

@SocialCloud good manager , there are many bounties that he managed well before, but he was given a red trust because in his bounty he was capellaenergy scamed and he didn't know anything about just launching the bounty and the team was not responsible for all this.
Sessia is a successful project managed with red trusts

Rules are rules, that everyone needs to follow or they should accept the punishment regarding about the mistakes that they have made, this happens a lot for those good managers, you could also include @atriz on the list, though he committed a big mistakes therefore the authorities here did what they have to do, it doesn't matter who they are, if they disobeyed the rules, they will be punished so there would be no biased system here in this forum.

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Quote from: LouVandetta on November 17, 2019, 08:38:50 AM

Well, as long as the manager in charge was not a part of the project itself, I think it won't kill you if you joined their bounty. But remember always do your research first, to avoid getting scammed either by the manager or the project. And I believe mods has a good reasons to give them a red trusts or anything. But most cases people will avoid such bounties if managed by a negative trust manager, In case something went wrong. But really, even if you joined a bounty managed by a green trust account manager, it doesnt always mean that the projects are good either. If it comes to this, looks like fortune must've on your side.

Trust is an important reference for bounty managers, a fatal mistake that unfortunately does not erase their negative reputation, but I see only a small number of managers with good reputations and this is quite worrying. There needs to be a reassessment of some managers who can still be given the opportunity, unless indeed the case is already severe and repeatedly carried out, especially in ensuring the projects they manage.

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For me those bounty managers who got tagged is not a big issue, what matters most is the project itself but I believe that aside from managing bounties, the bounty managers have a duty to make an initial investigation about the project before they promote it, to minimize fake project on this forum but bounty hunters still need to make their own research before joining because it does not guarantee that a respected or tagged bounty manager campaigns are all legit.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on November 17, 2019, 10:36:07 AM

Redtrush on the bounty manager will affect the trust of participants in the bounty that is managed, indeed the bounty that is managed is not necessarily scam or fake, but of course participants will lose interest because there is a redtrush that indicates the manager has made a mistake so that the redtrush is given. I myself still check projects that are managed if I find majaer with redtrush.

It's really obvious that bounty manager is promoting something fishy that's why he got redtrust. with that feed back I lost interest either. we know that there are many different feedback they receive but a feedback of a DT member are different from others thats why they get red mark of their account. they did not obey any rules of this forum. we couldn't blame other users had negative think about this because they are victims as well. we had our own choice to participate or not. if you take any risk of this bounty managers, its your choice. just remember this that all members here warn you to not waste your time to this doubtful managers.

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Redtrush on the bounty manager will affect the trust of participants in the bounty that is managed, indeed the bounty that is managed is not necessarily scam or fake, but of course participants will lose interest because there is a redtrush that indicates the manager has made a mistake so that the redtrush is given. I myself still check projects that are managed if I find majaer with redtrush.

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I think the project is not the problem, we must know the reason an account got red trust from forum. If that caused the owner's mistake that doesn't mean all project that announced by them are bad project.
Its all depend on us, how we can find good project and avoid scam project, choose your project wisely.

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In order for a bounty campaign to be good, it should has criterias such as a good bounty manager, a good project and a good team members of project. However, in a bounty campaign, i don't think that a rule that allows or disallows users who have negative trust in participating in the campaign is one of the criteria that will make this bounty campaign good. And yes, there are bounty campaigns that accept users who negative trust. And like other campaigns, some of them are bad and some are good.

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Well, as long as the manager in charge was not a part of the project itself, I think it won't kill you if you joined their bounty. But remember always do your research first, to avoid getting scammed either by the manager or the project. And I believe mods has a good reasons to give them a red trusts or anything. But most cases people will avoid such bounties if managed by a negative trust manager, In case something went wrong. But really, even if you joined a bounty managed by a green trust account manager, it doesnt always mean that the projects are good either. If it comes to this, looks like fortune must've on your side.

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as far as I know, if he (a member affected by the red trust) is not directly involved in the project, I think it's worth checking. accounts that have a red trust will not have an effect on a strong project and have a perfect concept. however, personally, I will do an in-depth study of the member. if the member often scams, or other things, I think projects related to him need to be checked.
in addition, this applies to members who have neutral trust or green. some members who have that kind of trust also sometimes give projects that are not so good or end up with a scam. so, to make sure the project is worth or not, do your own research.

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It is just the reputation that stains by red trust but it doesn't mean the project was untrustworthy at all just because they got introduced by users that marked by it. Sometimes those with red trust are more real than those without it. In addition red trusts can be acquired by different cases so, it doesn't lie upon by scamming case or what. So, those that introduced projects with marked are an indication that such user have done things which is against the rule in this forum more likely generally.

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Yea, the red trust system wasn't really introduced because of bounty managers, it was originally introduced as a warning mechanism so that people would not automatically trust people especially those with high ranking accounts in the forum when it comes to financial deals, so anybody could introduce a good project here and even newbie accounts tend to introduce good projects all the time and be the bounty managers in the campaign, so I don't look at the trust level of a bounty manger, I look at the project itself and if I like it, I will participate in it.

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Quote from: breathlessz on November 17, 2019, 07:21:40 AM

Quote from: ajeef on November 17, 2019, 06:41:24 AM

Quote from: Brunus on November 17, 2019, 06:27:39 AM

A red trust can be a sign of abuse and dishonesty, but many times it is given by someone just for envy or personal dislike.
Someone will remember that there were moderators who gave red trusts to everyone for really meaningless things.

Hmmm i think the moderators have it's own logical reason to give someone a red trust, not based on envy or something like that. I've never seen a mods give someone a redtrust with meaningless fault. Can you tell me what is your meaning ? of you can give us the example for clearing your statement

I agree the reason to give red trust is because of dishonesty, there are some cases where it often happens, where they cheat and do not obey the rules. but if based on jealousy, I think it's not true, if where because of jealousy then you can complain, if you still feel right, then it can also be published on the forum

That jealousy as the reason for the red trust is basically a subjective point of view. It can hardly be proven because if there is an instance such as that it will definitely be brought up and discussed among the moderators and staff. It cannot just be left unattended like that. And for sure we can always hear a justification from the moderator or staff for tagging a certain manager as not trustworthy.

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Quote from: ajeef on November 17, 2019, 06:41:24 AM

Quote from: Brunus on November 17, 2019, 06:27:39 AM

A red trust can be a sign of abuse and dishonesty, but many times it is given by someone just for envy or personal dislike.
Someone will remember that there were moderators who gave red trusts to everyone for really meaningless things.

Hmmm i think the moderators have it's own logical reason to give someone a red trust, not based on envy or something like that. I've never seen a mods give someone a redtrust with meaningless fault. Can you tell me what is your meaning ? of you can give us the example for clearing your statement

I agree the reason to give red trust is because of dishonesty, there are some cases where it often happens, where they cheat and do not obey the rules. but if based on jealousy, I think it's not true, if where because of jealousy then you can complain, if you still feel right, then it can also be published on the forum

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Surely. The reason for the red trust might not depict who really the users are. For all we know, it might have been a mistake that led to red trust. And, projects have little to do with whoever is introducing them.
However, it is still good to keep an eye out for red trust. It should serve as a guide and not as a judge.

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During a well-managed bounty campaign I have no problem about being the manager I am exposed to Redtrush. There are some managers who have Redtrush because of mistakes that are made and cannot be fixed. But until now it still provides a pretty good project. Even though managers don't have Redtrush, projects aren't necessarily successful.
Redtrush is only a marker if they make a mistake and can be corrected if they did not make a mistake.

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For all beginners its best if you stay away from red trust users, they are tag because they have done bad things on the forum like cheating and scamming

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Quote from: Brunus on November 17, 2019, 06:27:39 AM

A red trust can be a sign of abuse and dishonesty, but many times it is given by someone just for envy or personal dislike.
Someone will remember that there were moderators who gave red trusts to everyone for really meaningless things.

Hmmm i think the moderators have it's own logical reason to give someone a red trust, not based on envy or something like that. I've never seen a mods give someone a redtrust with meaningless fault. Can you tell me what is your meaning ? of you can give us the example for clearing your statement

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

Sessia was one of the successful bounty this year and I missed token for KYC. Trusted bounty manager is better than negative trusted. But fake campaign can bring you down reputation as did SocialCloud manager.

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A red trust can be a sign of abuse and dishonesty, but many times it is given by someone just for envy or personal dislike.
Someone will remember that there were moderators who gave red trusts to everyone for really meaningless things.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on November 17, 2019, 01:37:37 AM

Quote from: timmmers on November 16, 2019, 10:50:54 PM

It doesn't mean that red trusted accounts are in hands of bad people, it only tells you that you should be more cautious when you trade with this account.

Red trusted managers of higher ranks are more preferable to a newbie account, higher ranks must have managed a lot of previous successful bounties with a proven records I always checked their profile to find out the cause of the red trust before deciding to promote their bounties, the negative trust might not be related to scams however I will be cautious to work with them again.

It's true and if the reason for having a red trust is somehow not related to promoting scam ico or trade issue in this forum, I think it is okay to participate in such project. The reason behind their trust might affect the project if it won't give any attention, so doing research is a must when it comes to this matter.

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While it's true that some red trust members could introduce good bounties and be a good contributing member in this forum, we have to understand that the red trust system was introduced for a reason and many people who got it also got it for legit reasons, ofcourse I am an optimist and I believe that people can change especially after they have been caught and got the red trust to show for it, but we still have to be careful to avoid a falling into a scam especially when the red trust serves as a glaring warning.

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Quote from: timmmers on November 16, 2019, 10:50:54 PM

It doesn't mean that red trusted accounts are in hands of bad people, it only tells you that you should be more cautious when you trade with this account.

Red trusted managers of higher ranks are more preferable to a newbie account, higher ranks must have managed a lot of previous successful bounties with a proven records I always checked their profile to find out the cause of the red trust before deciding to promote their bounties, the negative trust might not be related to scams however I will be cautious to work with them again.

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One of the best bounties I have participated in was introduced by a red trusted member in this forum, EOSBet and GoWithMi bounties were also introduced by a red trust member and that was one of the best bounties I have ever participated in and some others as well, when it comes to bounty campaigns, what you should look at is the project itself and once you are satisfied that it would do well, you can join the campaign, although there are a few bad eggs in the forum who deserves the red trust they got, some of them are just honest people who made mistakes they regret later.

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It doesn't mean that red trusted accounts are in hands of bad people, it only tells you that you should be more cautious when you trade with this account.

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The reason is an addition to advertising the product either by signature or thru the social media campaign.
Red trust tagged users mostly are because of plagiarism. It had been proved.
But it is still one user who could keep on going thru a different platform and that is why they are joining different kind of campaigns.
Facebook, Twitter, Telegram or Medium. Those types of campaign can still be done by them.

I guess it will still depend on the manager.

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

First of all, users who were caught committing plagiarism doesn't receive a negative trust but rather they get permanently banned without any further warning. For the second point, joining bounty campaign with negative rating manager is too risky because they may manipulate your tokens without worrying for their accountability and they won't care if the project they're handling is whether scam or legit as long as they are paid to manage it so. For conclusion, it's better to stay away with them and look for bounty campaign with trusted bounty managers instead for your own good.

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Quote from: StephenJH on November 16, 2019, 07:58:41 AM

I don't deny this possibility but there is no exact relation between the red trust accounts and managing the bounty campaign. The experienced bounty manager can still manage the bounty effectively and the other determinant as important are not as the expected duties from the campaign manager. I wish all bounty campaigns will give positive results for the bounty hunters due to their hard work and expectations.

There might actually be a connection between a red tag and how a manager is properly doing his thing. A manager is somehow responsible that he is not actually managing a project that is intended to scam investors or lure them into investing and losing money out of it. Although they cannot be held responsible for the actions of the project he is under the payment of, he still should do enough research to make sure what he is working with is clean and not criminals.

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I don't deny this possibility but there is no exact relation between the red trust accounts and managing the bounty campaign. The experienced bounty manager can still manage the bounty effectively and the other determinant as important are not as the expected duties from the campaign manager. I wish all bounty campaigns will give positive results for the bounty hunters due to their hard work and expectations.

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Quote from: HabiebRiziq on November 16, 2019, 07:13:26 AM

Some bounty projects do not prohibit accounts with red trusts to participate in the projects they bring, maybe because more people participating in the project can encourage the project to develop or can make many people know about the projects they bring so that they can attract investors to invest in the project to develop and run the project to success.

Mate, you missed the whole point. It is not about the bounty participants.
The point here is a certain bounty campaign, which is the sessia bounty project has been managing by a user with red trust.

There are really some good projects that have been introduced in this forum by red trust users, but it still depends on the user feedback.
As the feedback of the manager of sessia, it is promoting a scam ico, and that is not a good sign.

Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

Not all red trust bounty managers introduce bad projects. Some of the feedback in their accounts may be because they made themselves wrong without knowing it and that does not mean they always work with scam projects. Investigate the project itself, if it is successful, the bounty will also be successful, and this has nothing to do with bounty manager.

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yes, I totally agree with what you think, not all red trusts have no hope of finding a bounty but also have to be careful in looking for it because not all bounty allow beginners, keep the spirit for all

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

Some bounty projects do not prohibit accounts with red trusts to participate in the projects they bring, maybe because more people participating in the project can encourage the project to develop or can make many people know about the projects they bring so that they can attract investors to invest in the project to develop and run the project to success.

KimmyF

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

No one wants to earn red trust or break rules. When your experience will gathering, you will make some mistake. But you are expert by did something wrong. Or you should wait long time to gather information from others wrong paths. Sessia was a very good example for this topics. They are selecting project by their experience.

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

I think red trust is not determining factor of any good and honest projects, Even some bounty manager has also a red trust in their account but still running a successful bounty but it serves as warning to anybody, somehow most of the Bitcointalk base bounties are prohibiting users that has red trust in their account to join in their respective bounty campaigns well that was the part of there rules so we cant do anything about it.

Coltpython

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That is true. I think many people are unfairly given red trust including the legit ones. The justice system in this forum is not 100% perfect but I think it could be better. Also, a cheater or violator of the rules can change over time and turn a new leaf. Maybe red trust should expire after a certain date

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Yes it can be done in other project but it has negative issues in other people ,they might be going to apply that project but see what will be the reaction of others,they gonna think that how can it be a successful project if it has a participants that has a red trust or negative trust. We do know that red trust is not good or you did wrong here in crypto.

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actually it doesnt matter if you have red or green when introduce some bounty. red mean some rule that violated. and often when some red trust wear bounty and thats good bounty. and all depend on manager to manage the particulipant. some will allow, the other will deny it, back to how great the project made.

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Yes they can, but it is in the decision of the bounty project or management to hire bounty participants with red trust. For a project to be successful, it should be supported by reputable members of the forum, how can we believe a project supported by numerous red trusted member? It will just make a negative impression for the project itself, people might even think that the project is in fact fraud and misleading already. So the most appropriate consequence for members who aren't doing their best and what is right is to not accept them in bounties.

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Having a red trust does not mean that you are a bad member many at times. Some were awarded red trust for promoting scam project and he or she may not be aware from the once set that the project is a scam. Some got red trust as a result of what they knew nothing about.

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

If you see thee feedback given maybe they are making an ICO before and they use fake team and that was the reasons why he got negative trust. if you look for other feedback you will see other members is also complaing about the bounty distribution that dont pay enough.
What he is doing before will never change even he is managing a good campaign right now.

Greatchu

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If i have to give newbie an advice on this i will surely say that Bounties from red trust users is not recommended but if newbies did know how to do research very well on bounty projects they might be able to know if a bounty from redtrust user is worth it or not.

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I belive every red trust have a reason and explanation to it. Some red trust users are still very useful and contribute immensely to the growth of this forum. I participated in the sessia bounty, at first i was complacent about it due to the red trust of the person that introduced the bounty but on a second thought i just took out time to research on the project and i participated in the bounty and it ended well. Most red trust that bounty managers have came as a result of the scam project they handled which sometimes its not their fault

Doranile432

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Behold most accounts with red trust get the tag for a reason, its either their ways are not pure, scammy, or others but still this doesn't say it all, bounty hunters are the ones that need to be extremely careful

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Quote from: Snowwy on November 16, 2019, 01:23:10 AM

Either an account owner with red trust or not, anyone can introduce good bounty based on their experience in this industry and their opinion about the project. I don't close my eyes to projects introduced by red trust members, what I used to do is do personal thorough background checks of the project to see if it worth my time and this is expected of any serious bounty hunter.

yes, to participate in any project. do not look at it with one eye, I mean like the case of the red trust manager / no, but that does not mean I say that the red trust manager has a good reputation. because the most important is the project road map, the experience of the team & developers in managing the previous project, and don't forget to do your own research about the project.

Snowwy

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Either an account owner with red trust or not, anyone can introduce good bounty based on their experience in this industry and their opinion about the project. I don't close my eyes to projects introduced by red trust members, what I used to do is do personal thorough background checks of the project to see if it worth my time and this is expected of any serious bounty hunter.

bitcoinposts

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If red trust bounty members can do bounty then it is good step for taking bounties we get maximum participation in the ico or ieo projects

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

Good bounty project from red trust account users happens once in a blue moon, i hope newbies will do their part on any project coming from any body, either new account or legendary member accounts, it doesn't say a thing, find answer yourself by doing research

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Quote from: shadowdio on November 16, 2019, 12:30:12 AM

Most of the bounty managers have red trust because they managing the scammy projects which they don't know, bounty managers are also bounty hunters and I agree we should do our own research the project not the bounty manager, they are just managing.

in most cases the red trust bounty manager can be caused by a number of reasons such as intentional or unintentional mistakes. but not all bad managers manage bad projects too. And I also agree that doing my own research before joining any project.

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

Nope. Can't agree with you.

And you need to remember that spamming and plagiarism can't get you a red trust here. Spamming can get you a temporary ban and if you indulge in plagiarism, then you may be permanently booted out of this forum. Red trust is reserved for those users who indulge in scams, fraud and cheating. And that's why they should not be promoting the ICOs, because trust matters a lot in the ICO market.

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Do not get it wrong people, many projects from users with red trusts are mostly scam like 95% of them, so it is better to first do research on any project before joining, and do not forget that we have reputable bounty managers for a reason, fairness reward distribution of course so think twice

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Most of the bounty managers have red trust because they managing the scammy projects which they don't know, bounty managers are also bounty hunters and I agree we should do our own research the project not the bounty manager, they are just managing.

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For bounty managers, red trust is not a big problem to promote the bounty of the team that is working on it. because red trust for bounty managers is not a benchmark of whether the bounty will be good or not. the problem is the rules of the bounty which do not allow participants with red trust to join. Those are the rules and we cannot refute them, and support every bounty manager even though they are red trusts.

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In my opinion a bounty manager is responsible solely for taking care of the bounty participants and *not* for verifying the legitimacy of the project that those participants are advertising. In the case of SocialCloud, he wasn't involved in the Capellaenergy project (as far as I know), so I don't think he should have gotten tagged so hard for the project's scam. If SocialCloud knew about the fake team members beforehand or if he continued the bounty after the scam got exposed, then he's fair game for red trust...but I'm pretty sure neither was the case.

You always have to check what the red trust is for, as well because different dt members hand out tags for different things and not everything is for a pure scam. Most of these ico's are scams, tho, and I think dt members are getting pretty sick of everyone involved in them, including marlboroza.

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a red trust account is a sign that someone has a negative reputation. but in this case I don't think that for all users of red trust, like gift managers or prize hunters it doesn't mean that they are bad. Most importantly before you join any project, prioritize your time for a moment to examine it in more detail.

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Quote from: BlackFor3st on November 15, 2019, 11:18:54 PM

Let's say that 98% of bounty campaigns that were introduced by red trust members are scam or either shit projects so if possible it will be best that you will stay away from those projects that were being redtrusted.

We can say that your example is part of the 2%, so they are very rare therefore as bounty participants we should choose wisely on what project to support. Don't hurry because the bounty pool is very promising instead look for the project that has potential with a reasonable bounty allocatoions.

because not all campaign managers who have negative beliefs promote project scams, but if the manager does not have a big name that is already well known by the bounty hunter community I think it will be hard to believe. Some managers who already have negative beliefs will certainly be considered a project that they are promoting because it is related to the community to participate in the existing campaign. if anything works, it's all because of the luck of the project and the campaign participants.

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Yes red trust doesn't mean that users and bounty campaign managers cannot be trusted anymore and cannot manage another bounty campaigns but for the bounty hunters, they will think twice before joining on it because of the red trust that they received.

Still, there are some good projects that is being handled by a red trusted campaign manager. Probably this is because he has a good reputation already and his red trust is not enough to be doubtful for the bounty hunters. One thing too is that, these campaign managers doesn't know that the campaign they are managing will end up being a scam project.

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Sometimes managers are given red trust because of the campaigns they are managing and not because they themselves cannot be trusted as a person. But it does not mean that these managers are only promoting projects that are scams or projects that turned out as scams. Many managers are managing both good and bad projects. What they lack probably is background check on the projects that ask them to be as managers.

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Quote from: DDante on November 15, 2019, 09:43:17 PM

As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

Let's say that 98% of bounty campaigns that were introduced by red trust members are scam or either shit projects so if possible it will be best that you will stay away from those projects that were being redtrusted.

We can say that your example is part of the 2%, so they are very rare therefore as bounty participants we should choose wisely on what project to support. Don't hurry because the bounty pool is very promising instead look for the project that has potential with a reasonable bounty allocatoions.

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You are right, but for most beginners especially like me, seeing a project managed by a red trust manager is doubtful, but the facts are different. for example the Sessia project is a large success project, costing $ 1- $ 1.5 in August-September luckily for those who passed the KYC then immediately sold tokens that month.

calandra78

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It all depends on the rules created by the bounty manager. such as Buballex also allows accounts with negative credentials to join his campaign but with the provision that negative trust is not given by DT member. but not many managers allow members with negative beliefs to join their campaigns. In essence, accounts with negative beliefs have difficulty joining a bounty campaign.

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Bounty managers works with several projects and most of the time they don't even know the project is a real one or a complete fake. There are a group of scammers that creates fake team and project to get some gullible investors to invest in the project. It's really difficult to know whether the bounty manager was aware of it or not and that often lead to gaining a negative trust for the bounty manager. It doesn't mean a bounty manager would always take a legit project or a scam ones. That's why it's better to decide for individual projects rather than following a bounty manager.

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Ofcourse, just because a bm has a red trust don't mean the project is not to be trusted, this are two separate things, maybe the project owners didn't have any knowledge about bm red trust or don't understand it entirely, but since the bm has nothing to do with the project itself nor is he a member of the team I don't see why not.

Bm are equally taking a risk managing all this project because it is very difficult to tell if the project will be scam or not, some will look genuine enough but later turn out to be scam, can't blame bm for that.

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You can create a comparison about how many projects that have been running by him that are scam projects and that legit one. I will say that the manager looks getting a legit bounty and he was so lucky for that. Not so many managers are so lucky to get the legit bounty. As far as i know what makes that becomes a successful project caused by bitforex IEO.

But that's the only one compared with so many scam projects around here right now. The bounty must do more research and they must feel worry about that because the reward will depend on the result of ICO.
Even not all of successful icos are paying the reward to the bounty participants.

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@SocialCloud good manager , there are many bounties that he managed well before, but he was given a red trust because in his bounty he was capellaenergy scamed and he didn't know anything about just launching the bounty and the team was not responsible for all this.
Sessia is a successful project managed with red trusts

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Yes, they can somehow introduce good bounties as long they are not directly part of the project. But bounty hunters still need to be cautious and do their research, they should think advance seeing redtrust to users will serve an initial warning to those who attempt to be part of their activities.

DDante

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As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdrop-sessia-300-000-tokens-15-token-5118659

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project

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