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as far as i learned at school, these craters were formed because the moon was hit by a meteor and that caused craters that could be seen from the earth. because unlike the earth, the moon does not have an atmosphere that can burn objects that enter it. it is possible that millions of years ago a large meteor hit the moon, causing craters with very wide diameters. we don't know for sure because we didn't live in that era lol. or is it the work of aliens? we know that this creature has been watching the earth for a long time, it could be, right?
Why do I think there are craters on the moon?
I'll tell you why. What we see in our telescopes is not the moon today, it's the moon 100 years from now. And Bitcoin has been reaching the moon so many times already that it has created all those craters.
I'll tell you why. What we see in our telescopes is not the moon today, it's the moon 100 years from now. And Bitcoin has been reaching the moon so many times already that it has created all those craters.
No, that's only your telescope... because you have pasted some of your nonsense over the lens.
I know that it's difficult to think. I don't do it properly, and neither do most other people. But we all see the difference between science and sci-fi... if we look, that is.
It was a sci-fi joke, man, jeez, relax.
Oh, whew. I was afraid for a second there, that we would wind up supporting you at the funny farm.
That's a joke. Don't get all 'A. E. Housman' on me.
Why do I think there are craters on the moon?
I'll tell you why. What we see in our telescopes is not the moon today, it's the moon 100 years from now. And Bitcoin has been reaching the moon so many times already that it has created all those craters.
I'll tell you why. What we see in our telescopes is not the moon today, it's the moon 100 years from now. And Bitcoin has been reaching the moon so many times already that it has created all those craters.
No, that's only your telescope... because you have pasted some of your nonsense over the lens.
I know that it's difficult to think. I don't do it properly, and neither do most other people. But we all see the difference between science and sci-fi... if we look, that is.
It was a sci-fi joke, man, jeez, relax.
Why do I think there are craters on the moon?
I'll tell you why. What we see in our telescopes is not the moon today, it's the moon 100 years from now. And Bitcoin has been reaching the moon so many times already that it has created all those craters.
I'll tell you why. What we see in our telescopes is not the moon today, it's the moon 100 years from now. And Bitcoin has been reaching the moon so many times already that it has created all those craters.
No, that's only your telescope... because you have pasted some of your nonsense over the lens.
I know that it's difficult to think. I don't do it properly, and neither do most other people. But we all see the difference between science and sci-fi... if we look, that is.
Why do I think there are craters on the moon?
I'll tell you why. What we see in our telescopes is not the moon today, it's the moon 100 years from now. And Bitcoin has been reaching the moon so many times already that it has created all those craters.
I'll tell you why. What we see in our telescopes is not the moon today, it's the moon 100 years from now. And Bitcoin has been reaching the moon so many times already that it has created all those craters.
Perhaps these craters are the remnants of ancient lunar civilizations’ grand constructions or the result of cosmic-scale artistry by unknown celestial beings. Who knows 
Well, isn't that what happened in the movie The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/ ? Except in the movie, it was the Earth that had been destroyed, and some jokers were rebuilding it... a big construction project.
I need to quote this so that others can view it, it shouldn’t be in the dark lol 😂
What an instant order from above
What an instant order from above
I hadn't read much of the rest of that website I linked above, but now that I have read more, I think I know why D-8218 doesn't want this info out there. The reason? It destroys the symmetry of the Jewish religion of today.
The timing of the last Mars Earth flyby in 701 BC, coincides with the time of God announcing through His prophets that Jerusalem and Israel were going to fall to some nation. There were actually two nations - Ancient Assyria and Ancient Babylonia.
What the flyby did was to disrupt the timing of the Jewish Passovers, and other timing that was based on the movement of the moon, and a 360-day year. The Jews have adapted to the current 365-day year - changed by the last flyby - but the flyby knowledge in the website would prove to them that God had rejected them because of their disobedience.
The alternative for average Jews if they understood this, would be to understand that Jesus was/is the Messiah. It would overturn all their thinking about God and their religion, and show that they had thrown away their specialness... their being the chosen nation... by their rebellion against God's laws. It's not that God has rejected them individually, but that He has accepted any believing Gentiles... a thing that they can't stand as Jews.
The idea of craters on the moon, and the fact that SeeBiscuit started the thread, and the way I answered it, are all part of many wake-up calls that God is doing for the Jewish people. Can't say for sure, but probably D-8218 is Jewish and understands that this might change his people.
Perhaps these craters are the remnants of ancient lunar civilizations’ grand constructions or the result of cosmic-scale artistry by unknown celestial beings. Who knows
What an instant order from above
Interesting thread. Is there any chance that the craters of the moon were damage done to it over the years of its existence?
Stop with your logic talk.
Interesting thread. Is there any chance that the craters of the moon were damage done to it over the years of its existence?
We don't hear about the Mars-Earth-flyby for the same reasons why we don't hear about free energy, and cars that get 100 mpg. The big business people have us in their grip so that they can make money. They want everything to remain just the way they want it to. But we are gradually breaking out of their control, because there are flaws in many of the things that they try to push on us. Craters on the moon is one of them. Here is the real reason why there are craters on the moon and Mars.
There is a lot more info at the site than what is listed below. In fact, the below is simply the beginning of chapter 11 of a lot more about this. But the way to find it isn't always to be using standard search engines. Try Yandex - https://yandex.com/search/?text=book+detailing+mars-earth-flyby+theory&lr=90&search_source=yacom_desktop_common.
I actually read a book showing much of the, below, stuff back in the 1960s... in a public library. People have known about this for a long time.
The First Nine Clues
https://www.creationism.org/patten/PattenMarsEarthWars/PattenMEW11.htm
This model of planetary catastrophism includes first, Mars making a flyby of Venus, an energetic inside flyby of Venus at the 76th longitude. It was on January 24, +/- 1 day, 701 B.C.E. This was where the orbits of Mars and Venus crossed as Mars approached its old perihelion in that era.
Next and last, Mars is modeled as having made an even more energetic flyby, this time a unique outside flyby, of the Earth at longitude 179 or 180. That is where the orbit of Mars crossed the Earth's orbit for the last time. This second energetic flyby, 55, 56 or 57 days later, occurred on the night (Near East Time) of March 20-21, 701 B.C.E.
This model, for the year 701 B.C.E., is one of double-barreled catastrophism. Evidence might be found either contradicting or supporting this model. For instance, the position of the Moon, modeled as being at full moon on the night of March 20-21, 701 B.C.E., can be retro-calculated. Does the Moon retro-calculate back, using a 365.256-day year, to a full moon on March 20-21, 701 B.C.E.?
And what about retro-calculating the positions for Mars, Venus, and Jupiter? Will their retro-calculations give testimony for or against this model?
If such retro-calculations were correctly made, and were in disagreement with this model, this model would be flawed. If only some of the clues were in agreement, the model would be partly flawed. If retro-calculations of all three planets and the Moon are found to be in agreement with the model, it will be a confirmation. It is comparable to a murder mystery, where a detective listens to the alibis of the four suspects of the crime. Next he proceeds to verify the veracity of the alibis.
Chapter 11 includes nine of twelve categories of clues; each is a test for the validity of the model. Chapter 12 contains clues 10 to 12.
Four clues, or tests, for this model are retro-calculations back to March 21, 701 B.C.E. for the positions of the key planets, the Moon's position, and the positions of Venus, Mars and Jupiter. These are discussed in clue 1 (the Moon), clue 2 (Venus), clue 4 (Mars) and clue 6 (Jupiter).
The third clue is the semi-major axis, and the location of the perihelion of Venus. Does its position also contain some kind of a clue of Mars-Venus catastrophism? Evidence of violence on the surface of Venus has been found, but the specifics have not been cited herein. If there was violence to its crust, perhaps there was violence to its orbit as well? Perhaps there is evidence thereof.
The fifth clue is the modern orientation orbit of Jupiter and its semi-major axis. It is modeled that Jupiter's orbital period and the Earth's were in a 12:1 resonance, and the Martian orbit was in a 6:1 resonance with Jupiter. Are there vestiges pointing to such a former relationship?
A seventh clue involves the distribution of asteroids in the asteroid belt. There is a certain feature, a gap in the distribution of asteroids at the 2:1 resonance location. It may be instructive. It concerns asteroids that have been perturbed out of resonance, and a characteristic of them. Does the modern orbit of Mars contain a parallel characteristic?
It is recalled that the Earth is modeled as formerly having been in 2:1 orbital resonance with Mars. But no longer. Is there anything common about asteroids that have left 2:1 resonance and planets that have left 2:1 orbital resonance? These are technical questions, but such is the nature of little clues.
The eighth clue involves the twin spin axis tilts of the Earth and Mars. Both tilts are close to 22.5°. This was discussed in chapter 8. Is there any way other than alternating, reciprocal planetary catastrophism for those two spin axes to have twin tilts?
The ninth clue involves the spin axis of the Earth. It responds to lunar and solar tides, and in its response, the spin axis follows a great circle in the northern heavens, a circle which takes 25,800 years to complete. Today, Polaris is the North Star, where the spin axis points. It will point there again in 25,800 years. Where did the spin axis point during the Catastrophic Era according to ancient accounts?
Ursa Minoris was the pole star when the Final Flyby occurred, 2,700 years ago. It is "Kochab" in Arabic, which means "The Pole Star". Has luni-solar tides, and consequent spin axis precession been ongoing forever in 25,800-year cycles? 1,550 of them would cover the last four billion years? Or is there evidence that planetary catastrophism has disrupted and reorganized luni-solar precession?
The tenth clue is the 360-day calendars, calendars so popular with the ancients on five continents. And the tenth clue cites their 360-degree circles, also popular with ancient mathematicians and surveyors on three continents.
If the Earth has always had a 365.256-day year, why were 360-day calendars used on every continent and 360-degree circles were also used in China, the Middle East and the Near East? Perhaps calendars, like other time pieces, can tell a story and if so, what is their message? Is it that the ancient mathematicians and calendar-makers couldn't count?
The eleventh clue is the mystery clue.
The twelfth clue involves the development of the English language from a variety of ancient languages, including Anglo Saxon, Scandanavian and Germanic languages, French, Latin, Greek and a smattering of other ancient sources. Their words for Mars included words such as Ares, Baal, Bel, Horus, Indra, Mars, Nergal and the Chinese dragon star.
Perhaps the ancient Greek words for little Deimos and Phobos also have left their imprints in modern English.
How many words in modern English are derived from various ancient words for Mars? 100 words, 200, 300, 400 or even 500 words. What kind of thoughts or experiences do those Mars-related words suggest? "March", for instance. Or "dis-aster" (aster = planet). Or cat-astro-phe. "Cata" means thrown downward from the heavens.
What kind of words and thoughts would these modern words in 20th century English tend to convey? Are these words linguistic vestiges of the Mars-Earth Wars? Are they linguistic scars of Mars?
There is a lot more info at the site than what is listed below. In fact, the below is simply the beginning of chapter 11 of a lot more about this. But the way to find it isn't always to be using standard search engines. Try Yandex - https://yandex.com/search/?text=book+detailing+mars-earth-flyby+theory&lr=90&search_source=yacom_desktop_common.
I actually read a book showing much of the, below, stuff back in the 1960s... in a public library. People have known about this for a long time.
The First Nine Clues
https://www.creationism.org/patten/PattenMarsEarthWars/PattenMEW11.htm
Introduction
This model of planetary catastrophism includes first, Mars making a flyby of Venus, an energetic inside flyby of Venus at the 76th longitude. It was on January 24, +/- 1 day, 701 B.C.E. This was where the orbits of Mars and Venus crossed as Mars approached its old perihelion in that era.
Next and last, Mars is modeled as having made an even more energetic flyby, this time a unique outside flyby, of the Earth at longitude 179 or 180. That is where the orbit of Mars crossed the Earth's orbit for the last time. This second energetic flyby, 55, 56 or 57 days later, occurred on the night (Near East Time) of March 20-21, 701 B.C.E.
This model, for the year 701 B.C.E., is one of double-barreled catastrophism. Evidence might be found either contradicting or supporting this model. For instance, the position of the Moon, modeled as being at full moon on the night of March 20-21, 701 B.C.E., can be retro-calculated. Does the Moon retro-calculate back, using a 365.256-day year, to a full moon on March 20-21, 701 B.C.E.?
And what about retro-calculating the positions for Mars, Venus, and Jupiter? Will their retro-calculations give testimony for or against this model?
If such retro-calculations were correctly made, and were in disagreement with this model, this model would be flawed. If only some of the clues were in agreement, the model would be partly flawed. If retro-calculations of all three planets and the Moon are found to be in agreement with the model, it will be a confirmation. It is comparable to a murder mystery, where a detective listens to the alibis of the four suspects of the crime. Next he proceeds to verify the veracity of the alibis.
Chapter 11 includes nine of twelve categories of clues; each is a test for the validity of the model. Chapter 12 contains clues 10 to 12.
Four clues, or tests, for this model are retro-calculations back to March 21, 701 B.C.E. for the positions of the key planets, the Moon's position, and the positions of Venus, Mars and Jupiter. These are discussed in clue 1 (the Moon), clue 2 (Venus), clue 4 (Mars) and clue 6 (Jupiter).
The third clue is the semi-major axis, and the location of the perihelion of Venus. Does its position also contain some kind of a clue of Mars-Venus catastrophism? Evidence of violence on the surface of Venus has been found, but the specifics have not been cited herein. If there was violence to its crust, perhaps there was violence to its orbit as well? Perhaps there is evidence thereof.
The fifth clue is the modern orientation orbit of Jupiter and its semi-major axis. It is modeled that Jupiter's orbital period and the Earth's were in a 12:1 resonance, and the Martian orbit was in a 6:1 resonance with Jupiter. Are there vestiges pointing to such a former relationship?
A seventh clue involves the distribution of asteroids in the asteroid belt. There is a certain feature, a gap in the distribution of asteroids at the 2:1 resonance location. It may be instructive. It concerns asteroids that have been perturbed out of resonance, and a characteristic of them. Does the modern orbit of Mars contain a parallel characteristic?
It is recalled that the Earth is modeled as formerly having been in 2:1 orbital resonance with Mars. But no longer. Is there anything common about asteroids that have left 2:1 resonance and planets that have left 2:1 orbital resonance? These are technical questions, but such is the nature of little clues.
The eighth clue involves the twin spin axis tilts of the Earth and Mars. Both tilts are close to 22.5°. This was discussed in chapter 8. Is there any way other than alternating, reciprocal planetary catastrophism for those two spin axes to have twin tilts?
The ninth clue involves the spin axis of the Earth. It responds to lunar and solar tides, and in its response, the spin axis follows a great circle in the northern heavens, a circle which takes 25,800 years to complete. Today, Polaris is the North Star, where the spin axis points. It will point there again in 25,800 years. Where did the spin axis point during the Catastrophic Era according to ancient accounts?
Ursa Minoris was the pole star when the Final Flyby occurred, 2,700 years ago. It is "Kochab" in Arabic, which means "The Pole Star". Has luni-solar tides, and consequent spin axis precession been ongoing forever in 25,800-year cycles? 1,550 of them would cover the last four billion years? Or is there evidence that planetary catastrophism has disrupted and reorganized luni-solar precession?
The tenth clue is the 360-day calendars, calendars so popular with the ancients on five continents. And the tenth clue cites their 360-degree circles, also popular with ancient mathematicians and surveyors on three continents.
If the Earth has always had a 365.256-day year, why were 360-day calendars used on every continent and 360-degree circles were also used in China, the Middle East and the Near East? Perhaps calendars, like other time pieces, can tell a story and if so, what is their message? Is it that the ancient mathematicians and calendar-makers couldn't count?
The eleventh clue is the mystery clue.
The twelfth clue involves the development of the English language from a variety of ancient languages, including Anglo Saxon, Scandanavian and Germanic languages, French, Latin, Greek and a smattering of other ancient sources. Their words for Mars included words such as Ares, Baal, Bel, Horus, Indra, Mars, Nergal and the Chinese dragon star.
Perhaps the ancient Greek words for little Deimos and Phobos also have left their imprints in modern English.
How many words in modern English are derived from various ancient words for Mars? 100 words, 200, 300, 400 or even 500 words. What kind of thoughts or experiences do those Mars-related words suggest? "March", for instance. Or "dis-aster" (aster = planet). Or cat-astro-phe. "Cata" means thrown downward from the heavens.
What kind of words and thoughts would these modern words in 20th century English tend to convey? Are these words linguistic vestiges of the Mars-Earth Wars? Are they linguistic scars of Mars?
Clue # 1 - The Moon And The Final Flyby Of Mars
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