Remotely monitoring mining equipment

notlist3d

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Quote from: Shiroslullaby on June 06, 2016, 08:36:27 PM

Yes I think what happened was someone got a list of hashes or passwords form another site (several have been breached recently) and people that were using the same email/ password on multiple sites got their Teamviewer accounts compromised.
If you use 2FA and a password manager you are doing WAY more for your security than the average user!

And I really like the physical token being part of it. Getting a Yubikey is honestly a great thing requiring a person to physically be at my computer pressing a button. I really like Yubikey's at this point - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hands-onyubikey-help-secure-your-digital-assets-including-blockchaininfo-1353231 There is some upfront cost but for me the security I feel I get was worth it.

There are other options to. I think what ever people decide to use if it's a physical token that cant be activated remotely is a great choice.

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Yes I think what happened was someone got a list of hashes or passwords form another site (several have been breached recently) and people that were using the same email/ password on multiple sites got their Teamviewer accounts compromised.
If you use 2FA and a password manager you are doing WAY more for your security than the average user!

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Quote from: Shiroslullaby on June 06, 2016, 05:06:45 PM

Hopefully anyone using Teamviewer has changed their password, and isn't using the same password for multiple sites.
With everything going on with Teamviewer in the last couple weeks, it would certainly not be a fun time to lose a bunch of bitcoins if your account got compromised.

They claim to not be at fault and like you said was caused from people using same password to many sites. I STRONGLY suggest people use a good password manager. I personally use one that requires a master password and a physical token (a Yubikey). So for someone to access my password manager they need to be physically at my PC and know my master password and then physically hit a button on my Yubikey.

Needless to say I have not been breached in past month (or anytime) with teamviewer. Also not using the same email for every single thing helps to.

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Hopefully anyone using Teamviewer has changed their password, and isn't using the same password for multiple sites.
With everything going on with Teamviewer in the last couple weeks, it would certainly not be a fun time to lose a bunch of bitcoins if your account got compromised.

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Quote from: CryptoBuddha on June 06, 2016, 04:03:45 PM

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Well that would be an unforgivable stupidity to keep a wallet on a PC used for remote monitoring Cheesy

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CryptoBuddha is right especially with latest revelations.
It seams that "unforgivable stupidity" reaches much further with same password used in many places.

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Quote from: notlist3d on May 16, 2016, 12:41:19 PM

I have used teamviewer since GPU mining long... ago it seems at this point.

Well, i used to mine with GPUs on x11 when it only emerged, but i've always did it at home, so there was no need to monitor the process remotely and now i'm a bit worried to leave S7 away from home.

Quote from: notlist3d on May 16, 2016, 12:41:19 PM

It is a great product honestly, and has Android and IOS apps even to connect. I have never had a problem with someone managing to get into them once... in years. So I feel pretty safe on using it as long as you use decent security for your username and password.With it I have a PC on and can check ether rigs, asics. So works great for that.

I agree completely. Running for about two weeks now and no problems or interruptions. Hope it will be so for years, as you said.

Quote from: notlist3d on May 16, 2016, 12:41:19 PM

I also have a camera security system for physical security, which I also can log in remotely. But it is not tied into team viewer I keep it separate.

What do you mean separate? Cameras conected to some web service to view them not through TeamViewer or you have a different internet connection for them?

Quote from: notlist3d on May 16, 2016, 12:41:19 PM

Also any PC I have the client on I do not keep wallets on. So worst case they get to my miners, but no actual wallet access.

Well that would be an unforgivable stupidity to keep a wallet on a PC used for remote monitoring Cheesy

fanatic26, smracer thanks for your advise abt CryptoGlance, have never heard about it, will give it a try.

And guys, being nice to a newbie gives a huge bonus to your carma. CryptoBuddha says )))

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Teamviewer + CryptoGlance works pretty nicely. Plus I have multiple cameras from different angles watching 24-7 that I can access from my phone or computer.

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Quote from: CryptoBuddha on May 15, 2016, 01:14:55 PM

Just had the same question as Westicles, as i need to move my s7 away from where i live.

Quote from: notlist3d on May 13, 2016, 03:44:16 PM

I doubt most will be trying to destory miners. I would guess most "bad guys" would be wanting to change to mining for them or try to infect machine to get any wallet info they can.

That said I personally use teamviewer for my GPU machines and also let's me access my asics when I'm away from home. It's always worked great for me and have not been compromised. I do not have wallets on any of these machines though.

Notlisted, and for how long have you been using TemViewer for monitoring your rig(s)? I only used TeamV for up to an hour long conferences, is it really working stable on a long run?

If soneone else has some experience with Antminer remote monitoring, your oppinions would be very helpful.

I have used teamviewer since GPU mining long... ago it seems at this point. It is a great product honestly, and has Android and IOS apps even to connect. I have never had a problem with someone managing to get into them once... in years. So I feel pretty safe on using it as long as you use decent security for your username and password.With it I have a PC on and can check ether rigs, asics. So works great for that.

I also have a camera security system for physical security, which I also can log in remotely. But it is not tied into team viewer I keep it separate. Also any PC I have the client on I do not keep wallets on. So worst case they get to my miners, but no actual wallet access.

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For remote monitoring my miners I use setup of:

Rapberry Pi 3 - with official Raspbian OS
12V to 5V converter to power R-Pi from same PSU as miners
RealVNC - full screen remote access to Pi
Weaved - on-demand VPN connection to Pi with zero config at router/firewall

Several weeks in use - no problems at all, it restarts/reconnects on power cut/broadband down, allow to access miners web interface as well as via SSH, quick and minimum power usage (Pi 3 even has idle auto power save mode)

CryptoBuddha

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Just had the same question as Westicles, as i need to move my s7 away from where i live.

Quote from: notlist3d on May 13, 2016, 03:44:16 PM

I doubt most will be trying to destory miners. I would guess most "bad guys" would be wanting to change to mining for them or try to infect machine to get any wallet info they can.

That said I personally use teamviewer for my GPU machines and also let's me access my asics when I'm away from home. It's always worked great for me and have not been compromised. I do not have wallets on any of these machines though.

Notlisted, and for how long have you been using TemViewer for monitoring your rig(s)? I only used TeamV for up to an hour long conferences, is it really working stable on a long run?

If soneone else has some experience with Antminer remote monitoring, your oppinions would be very helpful.

fanatic26

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You could take a look at cryptoGlance

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptoglance-v21-open-source-self-hosted-multi-rig-monitoring-tool-569924

It is software that has a companion Android app for remote monitoring. If you are only running a small number of miners this should work pretty well for you. Just make sure to read everything on their github about connecting remotely because I do believe there is a bit of configuration required to get it working.

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Quote from: Legacy2005 on May 13, 2016, 01:30:21 PM

Quote from: Westicles on May 13, 2016, 01:27:07 PM

Quote from: Legacy2005 on May 13, 2016, 01:19:49 PM

thats how i monitor mine, teamviewer on a spare pc. i dont leave anything logged in though. i dont even leave the ips as a favorite or history. i log in via my phone, type the ip, log in, view what i need. then close it all down.

honestly unless you have recently changed something or the weather is changing and you have them in a garage. watch them of a a few days and then call it good and not worry about them. i used to watch mine mulitple times a day and worry about a 1-2 degree C change. Now i just leave them be and check on them once a week, mainly to see if the high share has changed at all.

To be honest I JUST started mining, this machine has been running for 20 hours so far; I'm just incredibly interested in temps since this is new to me. Im happy to hear that you were able to do what I was speculating at but why are you so worried about IP history?

if someone hacks the machine then they have access to the miner.. which if left logged into they can change/screw with the miner itself. change firmware/mining address or just turn the miner into a paper weight by flashing the wrong firmware.

i also run a full node off the box pointed at kano.is

I doubt most will be trying to destory miners. I would guess most "bad guys" would be wanting to change to mining for them or try to infect machine to get any wallet info they can.

That said I personally use teamviewer for my GPU machines and also let's me access my asics when I'm away from home. It's always worked great for me and have not been compromised. I do not have wallets on any of these machines though.

Legacy2005

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changing the stock log in helps but nothing is full proof. i view it as why put more out there then needed. all my ips are easy to memorize so i do so. personal choice.

running a full node helps the network more then a "security" device. i have mine pointed at kano.is to help the pool propagate block finds to others nodes.

Westicles

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Quote from: Legacy2005 on May 13, 2016, 01:30:21 PM

Quote from: Westicles on May 13, 2016, 01:27:07 PM

Quote from: Legacy2005 on May 13, 2016, 01:19:49 PM

thats how i monitor mine, teamviewer on a spare pc. i dont leave anything logged in though. i dont even leave the ips as a favorite or history. i log in via my phone, type the ip, log in, view what i need. then close it all down.

honestly unless you have recently changed something or the weather is changing and you have them in a garage. watch them of a a few days and then call it good and not worry about them. i used to watch mine mulitple times a day and worry about a 1-2 degree C change. Now i just leave them be and check on them once a week, mainly to see if the high share has changed at all.

To be honest I JUST started mining, this machine has been running for 20 hours so far; I'm just incredibly interested in temps since this is new to me. Im happy to hear that you were able to do what I was speculating at but why are you so worried about IP history?

if someone hacks the machine then they have access to the miner.. which if left logged into they can change/screw with the miner itself. change firmware/mining address or just turn the miner into a paper weight by flashing the wrong firmware.

i also run a full node off the box pointed at kano.is

I have changed the stock login info for the miner; so I should have less to worry about? I am going to turn my pi3 into a full node, does this help with hardware security?
I really appreciate your help Legacy

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Quote from: Westicles on May 13, 2016, 01:27:07 PM

Quote from: Legacy2005 on May 13, 2016, 01:19:49 PM

thats how i monitor mine, teamviewer on a spare pc. i dont leave anything logged in though. i dont even leave the ips as a favorite or history. i log in via my phone, type the ip, log in, view what i need. then close it all down.

honestly unless you have recently changed something or the weather is changing and you have them in a garage. watch them of a a few days and then call it good and not worry about them. i used to watch mine mulitple times a day and worry about a 1-2 degree C change. Now i just leave them be and check on them once a week, mainly to see if the high share has changed at all.

To be honest I JUST started mining, this machine has been running for 20 hours so far; I'm just incredibly interested in temps since this is new to me. Im happy to hear that you were able to do what I was speculating at but why are you so worried about IP history?

if someone hacks the machine then they have access to the miner.. which if left logged into they can change/screw with the miner itself. change firmware/mining address or just turn the miner into a paper weight by flashing the wrong firmware.

i also run a full node off the box pointed at kano.is

Westicles

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Quote from: Legacy2005 on May 13, 2016, 01:19:49 PM

thats how i monitor mine, teamviewer on a spare pc. i dont leave anything logged in though. i dont even leave the ips as a favorite or history. i log in via my phone, type the ip, log in, view what i need. then close it all down.

honestly unless you have recently changed something or the weather is changing and you have them in a garage. watch them of a a few days and then call it good and not worry about them. i used to watch mine mulitple times a day and worry about a 1-2 degree C change. Now i just leave them be and check on them once a week, mainly to see if the high share has changed at all.

To be honest I JUST started mining, this machine has been running for 20 hours so far; I'm just incredibly interested in temps since this is new to me. Im happy to hear that you were able to do what I was speculating at but why are you so worried about IP history?

Legacy2005

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thats how i monitor mine, teamviewer on a spare pc. i dont leave anything logged in though. i dont even leave the ips as a favorite or history. i log in via my phone, type the ip, log in, view what i need. then close it all down.

honestly unless you have recently changed something or the weather is changing and you have them in a garage. watch them of a a few days and then call it good and not worry about them. i used to watch mine mulitple times a day and worry about a 1-2 degree C change. Now i just leave them be and check on them once a week, mainly to see if the high share has changed at all.

Westicles

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Anyone have a good idea to remotely monitor Antminer S7? It's giving me anxiety that I cant view my boards temperatures when I am at work, I was thinking about throwing Teamviewer on my PC at home and then logging into the miner through my phone using the PC. Has anyone tried that method with success or know of a better way to do this?
I greatly appreciate your time and feedback on this.

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