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But, what's wrong? a Newbie with only two posts so far, and the time gap between two post is nearly one year, jumped in Meta, in the topic, and say aggressive words.

If wearing signature of Best Mixer or any kind of shut-down sites are risky for the forum, admin would have definitely done something to wipe out Best Mixer avatar or signature days ago. It is not my or your role to say about that.
In a nutshell, there is nothing happened, and even no warning about this, I think it is safe to wear signature or avatar of Best Mixer if users want. Nevertheless, it is a bit nonsense to do it.

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Quote from: hd49728 on June 04, 2019, 09:38:51 PM

I don't see anything wrong if someone wear avatar of Bestmixer or any companies here. Best Mixer, was one of biggest mixer services for years, and they did not dissapear just after a click of mouse to wipe out their site and their platform. In addition, I don't see potential troubles for users whom still wear Best Mixer avatars, no matter what they are active users or permanent banned users.

However, if avatars of permanent banned users won't be automatically removed. Why not allow permanent banned users rights to take their avatars off? I am not sure that currently those perm-banned users can do this or not (guess not).

I'm not sure if avatar functionality is disabled or not. However, a crafty person could attempt to use avatars to convey messages, which would be a work around to the posting ban.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on June 04, 2019, 06:14:53 PM

We have 5 or 6 accounts banned/temp-banned that are still wearing Bestmixer avatars.

Perhaps it is not a bad idea to at least remove those after all their mixer was seized by the Dutch authorities.

I don't believe they are interested in some random people on a forum advertising but still...as precautionary measure remove those avatars.

I don't see anything wrong if someone wear avatar of Bestmixer or any companies here. Best Mixer, was one of biggest mixer services for years, and they did not dissapear just after a click of mouse to wipe out their site and their platform. In addition, I don't see potential troubles for users whom still wear Best Mixer avatars, no matter what they are active users or permanent banned users.

However, if avatars of permanent banned users won't be automatically removed. Why not allow permanent banned users rights to take their avatars off? I am not sure that currently those perm-banned users can do this or not (guess not).

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We have 5 or 6 accounts banned/temp-banned that are still wearing Bestmixer avatars.

Perhaps it is not a bad idea to at least remove those after all their mixer was seized by the Dutch authorities.

I don't believe they are interested in some random people on a forum advertising but still...as precautionary measure remove those avatars.

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Quote from: hd49728 on June 02, 2019, 09:40:46 PM

If theymos won't code something to do this, it will be unrealistic thing to do.

Automatic tools were meant, of course. Removing avatars of banned members should be simple as a disabling signatures.

Quote from: hd49728 on June 02, 2019, 09:40:46 PM

It will burry them with huge workloads if there are unnecessary tasks to remove avatars of banned users.

A significant part of such avatars are ads of outdated ICO's, they often contain annoying animated images, and I believe they are littering the forum.

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Reasons are likely only admins or global moderators are able to do permanent bans or uplift permanent bans. They are too busy to check reports from moderators, implement permanent bans; check ban appeals, uplift permanent bans, then add text of signature bans. It will burry them with huge workloads if there are unnecessary tasks to remove avatars of banned users. If theymos won't code something to do this, it will be unrealistic thing to do.

Quote from: Mr. Big on May 12, 2019, 06:40:56 AM

That's time consuming, there are hundreds of accounts that needs banning, and the mods have to click many times in the profile,the Ctrl+ A, C, V, Tab few times if we need to do that...

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Since the original suggestion was not accepted by administrators, I changed the first post and the title of the topic.

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Quote from: tranthidung on February 24, 2019, 02:34:18 AM

Because, without specific indicative avatar like this, it will be a trick for new users.
They don't have enough knowledge about the forum to know that those accounts got banned or not.

I mean, my image suggestion wasn't obviously 100% serious(but I'm definitely 100% for placing a "banned" avatar). But what's so tricky about it that people need knowledge to understand it? The word "banned" is written on the hammer; heavily implying that the user was hit by a "banhammer".

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Quote from: mk4 on February 22, 2019, 10:46:37 PM

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Agreed.
Avatar is needed and essential to help others know that which accounts got banned.

Quote from: LoyceV on February 23, 2019, 04:51:11 AM

No, leave the avatar: an avatar without signature is an easy indicator that the account is banned.

Nevertheless, I think that the specific avatar designed by the forum is better than keeping the avatar each user used before got banned.
Like this one:

Quote from: mk4 on February 22, 2019, 10:46:37 PM

Because, without specific indicative avatar like this, it will be a trick for new users.
They don't have enough knowledge about the forum to know that those accounts got banned or not.

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 24, 2019, 12:58:55 AM

Avatar

Admins are against this, but they might at least to remove avatars of banned members because many of them contain dated ads.

Quote from: hilariousetc on October 24, 2018, 12:09:04 AM

<...> It seems like theymos is likely even against showing which users are banned publicly (not sure why, especially when people are reporting dozens of users a day that are already permabanned and it's time-wasting for both users and staff to have to report and handle these).

Similar topic: Icon for banned user

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I think that the avatar of a banned user should be clearly visible and give information that the user has violated forum rules. I think that such an avatar is very good for this.

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Quote from: HODL2090 on February 23, 2019, 01:48:39 PM

I do not think any company would be thrilled to have their ads on the profile of a forum member who broke the rules and got banned. That could be negative publicity. Removing the avatar would suffice to prevent any damage that could arise. Although the forum does not moderate scams.

Good point. It definitely doesnt give a good impression towards the brand itself.

Anyway banned accounts dont need to be cared about since there's like a bajillion of mostly low levels. What advertisers mainly care are from active posters.

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Or put there profile like in a way you see your ignore list, but at least show the post they have done, we may not know some post he/she done has some use or knowledgeable for some users.

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Quote from: mikeywith on February 22, 2019, 07:51:03 PM

I second that , or maybe they should be put up for ads auction ? just some extra income for the forum for a rainy day Grin

I do not think any company would be thrilled to have their ads on the profile of a forum member who broke the rules and got banned. That could be negative publicity. Removing the avatar would suffice to prevent any damage that could arise. Although the forum does not moderate scams.

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Quote from: Taki on February 23, 2019, 06:13:08 AM

Banned accounts with avatar and signature play a good work for long term campaigns, such member won't be paid anymore, but the promotion is still going Cheesy

Right?
I'm also for doing something to cut such things. Should be done something to everyone knew that this member is banned temporary or permanent.

Well, with most cases it would be beneficial for the campaigns; but what if the site/service being advertised is non-legitimate? It may be quite unlikely, but the possibility is still there. And yes, though they wouldn't be able to post when they're banned, their posts and their avatar/signature could potentially still be seen by a lot of people especially if the banned user posted on a hot/active topic.

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Quote from: Veleor on February 22, 2019, 07:42:22 PM

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I understand that currently the stance is to avoid marking banned accounts explicitly, but removing the avatar, especially if it is promotional, seems a decent thing to do. Since obviously nobody is going to decide on a per case basis, removing then seems a pretty orthodox approach in my opinion (better an avatar removal that a dummy avatar).

I figure that the idea of not wanting to mark accounts visually as banned may have something to do with the projected image that that may leave when visualizing threads where the banned accounts have posted (picture for example seeing some Ann threads with say 20% of the accounts with a banned status).

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Quote from: morvillz7z on February 23, 2019, 07:19:23 AM

If I'm not mistaken, I had a similar proposal earlier this month [...]

Yes, you're right. Maybe I have seen your post before, I don't know exactly.

Quote from: morvillz7z on February 01, 2019, 12:23:58 PM

[...] I also have a suggestion in regards to permabanned accounts. When they receive their ban, their signature is automatically removed, but their avatar remains. Wouldn't it make sense to also be removed? More often than not these profiles have an image of a scam ICO, I don't know...it feels kinda wrong. A free post-mortem advertisement. Just take it away along with their sig space.

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If I'm not mistaken, I had a similar proposal earlier this month, nevertheless, I fully support the idea of removing avatars from already banned users.

I wouldn't replace them with a generic image of bitcointalk.org though, which of course will indicate accounts are banned, and theymos obviously isn't a fan of that idea.

Quote from: hugeblack on February 23, 2019, 06:17:08 AM

I do not think this forum will change your personal information. "No one will be happy about that."

Welp, their sig space is also considered personal information, but it disappears with a ban, it only make sense to strip avatars too, since many of these have links to already exit scammed ICOs.

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Quote from: Veleor on February 22, 2019, 07:42:22 PM

A lot of banned profiles are continued promoting companies in the avatars, therefore many irrelevant ads have accumulated on the forum.

Does anyone know what happens after the account is banned? I think it will not be possible to change that avatar, so no one will pay you for a service you do for free.

Quote from: Veleor on February 22, 2019, 07:42:22 PM

I suggest to replace avatars of blocked accounts with the default image. For example:

From profile:

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You can change your personal information on this page. This information will be displayed throughout Bitcoin Forum. If you aren't comfortable with sharing some information, simply skip it - nothing here is required.

I do not think this forum will change your personal information. "No one will be happy about that."

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Banned accounts with avatar and signature play a good work for long term campaigns, such member won't be paid anymore, but the promotion is still going Cheesy

Right?
I'm also for doing something to cut such things. Should be done something to everyone knew that this member is banned temporary or permanent.

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Quote from: JetAid on February 23, 2019, 02:11:38 AM

I liked the old idea of replacing the coins in the profile with red crosses. Removing avatars would be a good idea as well.

I think, you're talking about this badge?

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Quote from: suchmoon on February 22, 2019, 08:02:31 PM

This would be equivalent to having a ban label, which theymos is not willing to do, not yet anyway. So perhaps he should just remove the avatar like he does with signatures.

No, leave the avatar: an avatar without signature is an easy indicator that the account is banned.

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I liked the old idea of replacing the coins in the profile with red crosses. Removing avatars would be a good idea as well.

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Quote from: Veleor on February 22, 2019, 07:42:22 PM

A lot of banned profiles are continue promoting companies in the avatars, therefore many irrelevant ads have accumulated on the forum.

I don't think they are advertising, I think they are just not bothering to change their avatar. Even change avatar I don't believe someone will pay them for it since they are unable to make new post. I believe no one using banned account on the forum for reading post, we can see active them sometime because they login for see their bounty report or something else. I think most of banned user creating new account and we can see sometimes ban evasion topic. So it's not a big deal.

It will better remove their avatar after got ban, may be sometime their avatar will annoy other users.

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or something like this one LOL:

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Quote from: Veleor on February 22, 2019, 07:42:22 PM

I suggest to replace avatars of blocked accounts with the default image.

This would be equivalent to having a ban label, which theymos is not willing to do, not yet anyway. So perhaps he should just remove the avatar like he does with signatures.

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I second that , or maybe they should be put up for ads auction ? just some extra income for the forum for a rainy day Grin

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A lot of banned profiles are continue promoting companies in the avatars, so many irrelevant ads have accumulated on the forum.

Therefore avatars of banned members perhaps should be removed, along with the signatures (credits to suchmoon).

Edit: ~~I suggest to replace avatars of blocked accounts with the default image~~.

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