Topic: *REQUEST* 0.3 BTC payback 0.36 BTC in July (Read 571 times)

I agree with you that if this type of loan request could open by a reputed higher rank member then we would not say like this and the person may be able to took the loan. Reputed person is taking a good amount of loan without collateral. But as the person is newbie there is highly chance to default the loan and lock retain so called collateral by proofing that she/he is the real owner of the account.

I understand that you may be new to this forum and that you have not followed all the discussions here, but this issue has been discussed countless times before.
Please read the sticky post where it is explained what is and what is not a valid collateral for the loan. This is just one small well-meaning piece of advice. 

No question about the collateral since $CRO has sufficient liquidity in case the loan was defaulted. The only problem here is on how to secure the account which holds the coin. The owner can retrieve the account anytime especially if he do KYC on it. This will be very risky for the lender if ever someone attempt to grant this loan.

I understand the staking issue since I have some token stake there and it will be a waste of time to cancel it if you already stake your tokens there for a signicant amount of time.

I suggest that you take a personal loan in the bank since you can afford to pay it because of your collateral. There is only a slim chance/near zero chance that someone will grant  your loan here due to trust issue.

But I believe this case will work if the user who will request loan is trusted and not a newbie since the collateral is valid (collateral has value).

PS: I'm viewing this scenario in neutral mode.

You agree or not but your personal information is worth nothing because:
1. Your personal information might be fake
2. If real and we want to take action then it will take too much time to reach you
3. It will cost a lot to identify after by legal way
4. It will take a lots of time
5. You can try to say/proof that you have not took the money
6. You can say that your information has been leaked and many more.

It has already been explained to you in multiple ways that this is not a valid collateral, nor are your domains. There is also a sticky at the top of this board that you should have read before starting this thread. Continuing to argue this makes you sound more and more like a scammer. Lock the thread and go away unless you have an actual collateral that a lender or an escrow could take full control of.

Hi, first, thanks for some members here that are actually discussing and not only insulting. I understand that not everyone here is a "fan" of CRO and crypto.com as a company. Matter of fact is that 50k plus CRO are worth over 0.6 BTC today. Sure it could be that they are going down to nothing, however, all of us here are crypto guys, i assume. And the same goes for the 0.3 BTC i was originally asking for. Theoretically, they can of course be worth x% less or more in July or in September. None of us knows, so its a bit of a useless discussion.

As for alternative securities i can offer for the loan - the only "digital" assets i could offer if someone preferred is my domain portfolio which i could transfer to the lender until repaid. I could ultimately also include the domain that is associated to the project i am trying to finish up. Now i have also put up some of the domains for sale, if one of them gets done now, the amount i would need to lend would lower. If someone is seriously interested (terms if not involving the CROs anymore, 20% interest payback in July necessary. If not, forfeit the domains), i can send the complete list and proof of ownership.

On the general topic, i do disagree that personal information and contracts are "worth nothing" as one member here suggested. After all, there are laws and (in some countries) questionable justice in our world Also, some it seems would like 0.6 BTC as security to lend 0.3 - it is clear i would suggest, that thats not how things work. After all, i know its a risk, but i am also offering 20% interest for roughly 40 days of loan bearing in mind the risk involved for the lender. I did offer 50.000 CRO (current value 0.6BTC under the circumstances i explained as security and now alternatively a pretty neat domain portfolio. Yes, everything might not worth be much or anything in July, all is possible in todays world.

Again, thanks for productive feedback and non insulting comments by at least some here!

I don't think the borrower will offer anything else and if still the borrower offer anything then that will be scam attempt too like the borrower will offer scam token or such a token which buying price and selling price will be too much different and almost no trade volume. Or they will offer you a token which is not scam but they will give you the token which will seem same but scam.

For taking loan escrow is not mandatory but if they do not believe the lender then they have to consider escrow. As if lender can send first then no benefit of the collateral.

Can we agree to put those staked CRO tokens aside since they are not so good as collateral? Can you offer anything else as collateral for the loan?

Without a good collateral with a reputable escrow, I doubt you can get any offers for a loan since you are a newbie here. Your word (or your personal information) is worth nothing. Many members here have been deceived in this way many times before.

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Any time someone comes in asking for a loan, you have to think to yourself, "why are they asking for this loan?"

And then you think to yourself, "how are they going to pay it back?"

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Hmm...

Just one month ago, your 50k CRO tokens worth ~0.3 BTC, with possible pullback it is easily possible that your tokens will worth again 0.3 BTC in September. a quite unstable coin + locked for three months means high risk for potential lenders. I best case maybe you can ask for 0.05 BTC, but just maybe. Of course, the basic condition is fully accessed to funds on crypto.com or transfer to lender account. as far as I can see it is not possible.
I have some advice for you. if that money matters to you maybe are now time to go out from this coin. I know some coins who were promising, but at the end locking for staking was just a preparation for an exit scam.
Also, now is clear, you will not get a loan here, so it is best to lock this thread. Arguing and insulting you will not achieve anything. 0.3 BTC you will not get for sure.

lol, hop on your main account and say that shit to me you fucking dense headed scamtard.

As if I give a fuck what some stupid noob trying to scam a loan thinks about me. XD

Man, that you are dumb and primitive is quite obvious for everyone now. But probably you are also ugly and depressed if you have nothing else to do than type profane bs all day. Go get some psycho help and maybe work out a bit! A negative rating from you is like a world medal of honor anyone who gets a positive rating from scum like you must hate their life! Get some courage and finish what you have been thinking about so many times and end that pathetic life of yours

P.S. your account is fucked now. Should probably make a new one.. Because 2 red feedbacks and less than 30 messages screams of scammer.

Maybe reconsider coming in here trying to scam people next time you fucking scrub.

He says, trying to convince everybody that he is legitimate.

Go get a fucking job instead of wasting your time trying to scam people here you daft fuck. How many times do you need told off before you realize your little pipe dream isn't going to happen?
The very fact you're trying so hard to come off as sincere and sell yourself to someone like it's actually a good idea to loan BTC to newb accounts is fucking laughable.

To everyone else watching this shit.. If this fucking piece of shit noobie keeps trying to convince people to give him a loan, give him negative feedback.

Your attempt to scam is shit, your playing the victim role is shit and your pathetic whining that you're being told to fuck off is shit.

If you spent half the amount of time trying to learn marketable skills that you do trying to scam folks here you might actually make something of your life.

Sorry mate, i am NOT trying to convince you. What i want is just to talk normally here without insults. Nobody is forcing you to do anything, to believe anything or to appreciate CRO. I was just suggesting that you maybe check that coin before claiming that it isnt worth anything. If you do not want to do that and believe a company with 2 million users and a decent case for their coin is shit, absolutely fine with me! No problem whatsoever. I guess all the CRO investors are idiots and you know better. Just out of curiosity, which shitcoin do you like or would recommend to a friend? (That is if its possible to have a normal conversation on this platform)

You continue to try to convince us based on the false argument of a market cap price, which as you said doesn't matter. Sorry but I agree with MRKLYE on this. You just want to get BTC for nothing.

Hi Condoras, we all know that Coins can go up and down. I do not want to argue with you - you do not like my offer and that is absolutely fine! If you are investing in crypto - have a look at crypto.com and check out their CRO token. I do not consider it a bad shitcoin at all I think better 2 billion market cap and a working project rather than 6 years old - but that is only personal preference.

The posts that you see either was from newbies who want to get their hands in BTC for free like it's candies or from high ranked/trusted members.
How is it fair if you can't move them to the lender's wallet? Since if there is even the slightest possibility/chance to reclaim the collateral that you offer, this deal that you propose is nowhere near to "fair".


So what? Can you check how many tokens/ coins been in this spot before CRO and where they are now? I prefer to get collateral which is in 22nd place atm but it's more than 6 years around rather some bumping token.

Hi, yes - sorry, i did not know that there is predetermined colletaral here. I saw some posts with offer of zero collateral so i thought it was fair enough to offer CRO which arent magical bean token but rather have a 2 Billion USD Market Cap and are ranked 10th in Crypto.

Maybe you miss reading what is considered as valid collateral here. ID's, contracts and any kind of doxs are not among them. The same rule applies for tokens and coins that the lender cannot liquidate fast and easily in case of default.
As for magical beans, we have seen a lot of tokens that grow tremendously at their first period of time (1-3 months) and then go to dump faster than light, ending with a 100% loss. So unless you offer a well-known coin which is tradable in all the major exchangers, you stand 0 chances to see this request filled.
I imagine though that you don't have anything else to offer so I suggest to lock your thread.

Negative reputation left for being a new account asking for loans.

Get fucked nerd.

Thanks for your advice MRKLYE - duly noted. I have tried to explain you things in the simplest way possible, apparently without major success One thing you right with tho - i aint "fooling" anyone! Especially not the self proclaimed know it best Uberfool of Bitcoin Forum! Please keep your accusations to yourself unless you have at least a shred of proof, what you are doing is called defamation and is something you shouldnt do, not even hidden behind a nick on the www. As you will not know what that word means, here an explanation: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/defamation

Imagine coming on here, making a new account and talking about written contracts while trying to scam people out of money.

You aren't fooling anyone, liquidate your staked assets and go finish your project.

Again i am not going to your level using your type of language - although by now i would like to. I might not be "anyone" here - if you are anything here, i dont know if i really want to be "here"  I dont know in which dump you live, but in my jurisdiction, breaking a written contract by ultimately commiting fraud is a criminal offense which you wouldnt want to do, especially if you then are definitely going to loose the collateral assets which are worth double the loan amount. Now, since i realize that you are a tad bit mentally challenged, i will explain some real world facts to you: 1. CRO and MCO are not magic beans, at least the CRO have been quite magic lately, but not beans. 2. Maybe i am naive, but i assume that there are people around here that do understand real world stuff like contracts, IDs and non anonymous communication on a civilized level. 3. The reason why i cant sell the coins before the fixed staking term is up is exactly that, they are staked for a fixed period of time. If they were freely available, it wouldnt be a fixed term staking but rather a so called soft staking. If you need any more real world advice or terminology explained, hit me up - i will gladly help you out!

Listen "newbie"... I've seen thousands of fucks like yourself come on here and drop nearly identical posts, only to snag some sucker and fuck him out of his BTC.

You aren't anyone here, your account is brand new and the collateral you are offering is easily revoked resulting in a scam.

If you have coins staked, unstake them and sell them to get the 0.3 BTC. Why you think anyone would give you thousands of dollars on your word is some straight up mongoloid shit.
You type like a scammer, your proposition is that of a scammer and your inability to come up with any real reason or collateral just screams of trying to pull a fast one.
If this isn't the case, and you're not a scammer, sorry.. However you're either naive or an idiot in that case to think anyone would bother risking their money on a fucking newbie.

"I got some magic beans growing, give me your BTC and you can have the grown vines"

Hard pass, go liquidate your staked coins and finish your project. Don't ask people here for money when you supposedly have staked coins.

Dear MRKLYE, might be a waste of time - the following sentences i can not decypher as they do not make much sense in the english language. Again, if you believe someone will set up a 0.3 BTC scam by investing 50.000CRO and 500MCO (obviously with proper KYC, because otherwise not possible with crypto.com) be my guest. You are entitled to believe what you believe. I wasnt aware of the fact that PMs are a "red flag" - i consider exchanging personal identification in private "normal" and not a "red flag". Now to the point, what kind of language are you using?? I didnt do anything to you nor do you have any proof of "scam" - but you are very fast to make accusations without any evidence or base. Using profane language to a stranger in the anonimity of the www... I will not give a "plan on how to use the funds", i am offering a fair deal with written contract, and proper Identification plus of course full access to my collateral account. If you do not consider this fair or legit, fine - even voice your opinion about it. But jesus man, do not accuse people you dont know without any proof whatsoever and keep your f*bombs to yourself!

Waste of time man, so many red flags here, brand new account, telling people to PM if they have questions so they can manipulate them, false promises of collateral that can easily be revoked....
Anyone loaning this person money is never going to see it back, nor will they get the staked coin collateral. One of the oldest tricks in the books trying to be played out here.

What project do you need that type of money to complete CryptoBen76? I happen to be a developer and if you were actually looking to finish a project I might be able to help you out, but sure as fuck wouldn't loan on false promises of collateral.

The very fact you have a winking face after telling people to go check the charts should be enough to make anyone considering this bullshit to about face and run away.
Your offer is vague, your collateral isn't actually collateral and the lack of history on your account almost ensures this is a scam attempt. Kindly fuck off or cough up proper collateral and a plan of how the funds will be used.

So basically the fund is hold upto 3 months. There will have no benefir of those information of any lenders here who would lend you. As those cant be verified either legit or not also if legit still those cant work as the site may ask a signature by holding the id and write something with the face. As you are the real person you can do that but the lender never be able to do that. As a result all funds will be loss. Are you trying to recover those 0.3BTC which you have been scammed though I have not seen anything like that on your profile.

This is a scam in the making..

Anyone offering you access to their staking wallet is simply going to give you access, get the BTC sent to them, and then from there go and change the password locking the loaner out.

Anyone loaning a brand new account this type of money on the promise of access to a staking wallet is a fool.. Please don't be that fool.

Hi, i cant sell the staking as it is an investment staking which provides daily interest in CRO for a fixed term. The staking can be released in September. Of course i would provide ID, full details and we would set up a contract - i did not stake 50.000 CRO and 500 MCO on crypto.com months ago to "scam" 0.3 BTC here. This is a fair transaction, i pay back in time then you get 0.36 BTC for 0.3 BTC in July - if not, i forfeit my 50.000 CRO to you. Thats obviously not my plan, just check the CRO/BTC daily chart I would like that both of us, me and the lender exchange all personal details, ID etc. and make a mutually benefitial deal.

I have a couple of questions. Where do you hold your CRO and why don't you just sell the half of them, instead of getting a loan? You will save the 20% that you offer and it will be more likely to rebuy them then.

You will give the access of the stake wallet or you will send the fund as collateral? If you give crypto.com as a collateral then that might be recoverable by mentioning hacked.

Hi, i need BTC to finish a project i am working on - i can offer the following: Loan 0.3 BTC and i am planning to pay back 0.36 BTC in July. I will give my crypto.com Staking of 50.000 CRO (current value 0.59 BTC) as collateral which the lender gets in full if i fail to pay back in time. Cheers, Ben - contact me via PM if you have any questions!