It's always a terrible experience... I was forced to do same once and it almost got me pissed off - especially since I was planning on meriting another good post too with the left over SM.
I've been able to spot out these browsers; and in that process,i realized it doesn't happen in all of 'em... Some browsers would request permission for the repetition of the previous command .... Some don't just give a Fuck!!
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Topic: Request for sent merit edit button (Read 739 times)
You don't have to delete the default number #0, leaving it as it be. Then adding a number you want to send like 2, you will have 02 and click on Send. It's done, without mistake, without need to delete #0 at the starting place.
This is exactly what I used to do always and sometimes when I click on the default number 0 to add just 1 or 2(it's usually what I send of merit). However this time I didn't notice that I added 2 to the left side instead of the right side of 0 and without verifying I clicked on send. Well that was entirely my mistake and I wasn't focused at that time. So whether we received any update on adding another confirmation button or not it's no big deal to me. As you mentioned, Smerits don't matter that much, so it's better to send them to deserving users and useful posts instead of staking them.
Something like this:
Instead of requiring a confirmation button every time you send merits, this option is a better idea. Each user can set the number he want for the notification to prevent accidental sending of large numbers such as 20 or 100 merits for a post that deserves 2 merit and since it cannot be undone I support this idea. 
I have notice members like DdmrDdmr sending multiple merits in short period of time to different users, this will only discourage him
I think this can only slow down his operation in terms of spraying merits although for people like that could be other better ways to get themselves sort out of such counter. Maybe Theymos can exclude those merits sources to allow them distributes enough merits to others without limitations unlike other common users.
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Imagine merit sources like DdmrDdmr that sent out multiple numbers of merits to different users within a few seconds. How can they achieve that if there is a captcha to be passed before sending merit?Like i said merit source should be excluded, although is just a kind of suggestion not mean it will be instantly implemented.
To me if I could suggest adding a kind of warning sign like "are you sure want to send such amount to user "X"" along the line you will have something like captcha in form of multiplication or substraction ( 1+9, 4-4, 10+1) something like this could really help to reduce accidental discharge of smerit. Though we know isn't that good holding back smerits but we should also remember that those smerits are given to post we found useful and meriting instead of just mistakenly wasting it to single post that doesn't carry such load of merits.
Adding this warning or reminder will be good, but adding captcha will make the entire merit sending process very boring because people will be too lazy to send merit to quality posts because they will be thinking of the stress they will pass through doing captcha just to send out your smerit to someone. If people are too lazy to pass through that process, then lower ranks cannot easily rank up on time.Imagine merit sources like DdmrDdmr that sent out multiple numbers of merits to different users within a few seconds. How can they achieve that if there is a captcha to be passed before sending merit?
That's a nice idea. As a profile setting (that's off by default), I can see that largely solving the problem without rubbing anyone the wrong way.
Something like this:
Something like this:
This seems to me more like a better idea than what I first proposed. This way you don’t annoy those that have excess to send or those that see it as nuisance probably because they are use to being careful. If you don’t like it you can toggle it off.
To me if I could suggest adding a kind of warning sign like "are you sure want to send such amount to user "X"" along the line you will have something like captcha in form of multiplication or substraction ( 1+9, 4-4, 10+1) something like this could really help to reduce accidental discharge of smerit.
This will really be annoying let me be frank. I don’t know for other members but I don’t like captcha’s popping off eveytime. For someone like me it wouldn’t be that much of a problem but for some members that distribute many merits at once (merit sources) then it would be one hell of a thing to deal with. I have notice members like DdmrDdmr sending multiple merits in short period of time to different users, this will only discourage him
Like what other said above we need to double check before we do something and yes we can not say that we are perfect which is our every move is accurate then all I can say is that we must careful somtimes. An about your experience there's a lesson that learned , and also deleting the 0 before we enter a number in order to sent merits is very helpful to us to avoid mistakes which once we mistakenly send 20 instead of 2 then it will drain your sMerits unless you are a merit source so we must double check first before we do something or before er send merit's.
What happened to was at a cause of holding back much smerits if that you always dispatch your smerit I don't think you would face this mistake, I know is very painful seeing that you wasted your smertis to a post that doesn't worth it all. To me if I could suggest adding a kind of warning sign like "are you sure want to send such amount to user "X"" along the line you will have something like captcha in form of multiplication or substraction ( 1+9, 4-4, 10+1) something like this could really help to reduce accidental discharge of smerit. Though we know isn't that good holding back smerits but we should also remember that those smerits are given to post we found useful and meriting instead of just mistakenly wasting it to single post that doesn't carry such load of merits.
Even if they were to add the second warning that you're going to confirm your merit sending, a lot of people will still disregard it and it will just be another step that they don't have to read carefully. The better solution would be for a warning or confirmation message only when you're sending 10 or higher merits so those that send 9 or below don't really be bothered by a confirmation message.
Original poster has a good point in my opinion : it would be a nice addition putting up a confirmation message that everyone can, or cannot, individually flag about the smerit we are going to send or alternatively set the option of edit sent sMerit for a very short time frame ( like a minute or so).
Sent 2 merit to OP to allow him recovering some smerit he lost by misclick.
Sent 2 merit to OP to allow him recovering some smerit he lost by misclick.
Some months ago, I was doubting whether to send 2 or 1 sMerits to a given post, and ended up sending 21. It happens every now and then.
I recalled seeing a script to go with Tampermonkey that, though created in origin to speed-up somewhat the meriting process, was later enhanced to include an interface that could come in handy to reduce these type of mess-ups:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52249695
I guess one could yet evolve it to add a second confirmation for sMerit amounts sent when larger than X (a second confirmation for any amount would become a nuisance and, in any case, drive people to click yes by force of habit).
What actually messed mine up was like I just saw the post and was like let me send 2 then saw I had 24 smerits and in my head I would have 22 left after sending that two, then it was the 22 I ended sending. Maybe that’s punishment for hoarding something that was giving freely to me. But would have appreciated I splashed them on many posts or even a thread created not just a random reply. I recalled seeing a script to go with Tampermonkey that, though created in origin to speed-up somewhat the meriting process, was later enhanced to include an interface that could come in handy to reduce these type of mess-ups:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52249695
I guess one could yet evolve it to add a second confirmation for sMerit amounts sent when larger than X (a second confirmation for any amount would become a nuisance and, in any case, drive people to click yes by force of habit).
Second confirmation would be actually helpful. But maybe things like this is teaching one how to avoid mistake on this crypto space, imagine it was bitcoin, I would probably be on drips now.
You have given out a chunk of merits to a forum member and don't think that it is a waste of smerits because you still gave it to someone that you feel deserves your merit and that merits will elevate that user to the next rank, which you should be proud of helping someone to achieve his next rank easily. No smerit is a waste because it will add value to someones merit record and the person's rank.
We keep on learning everyday in the forum from our mistakes, I know that from hence forth, you will be very careful and observant when next you will be sending merits to forum members.
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Something like this:
This will be a very helpful setup.Something like this:
I'm sure that some generous smeriters want to always spend theirs at the end of each distribution cycle and they sometimes have to go it with mobile.
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And merit sources will not like this warning message
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Its easy, if you keep it unchecked, no warning message will popped up. And merit sources will not like this warning message
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Have a confirmation as a reminder is better than don't have it but it won't help careless people. They will continue to make mistakes and overspend bigger than the number of sMerit they want to send. Like they skip a reminder if they send a same number of merit to a same post within a short time like 15 or 30 seconds (I don't remember exactly the span triggers this reminder).
The merit cool down time is not a reminder, it makes it impossible to send merits to the same post within the time frame. That time frame is 60 seconds.There has been a sharp drop in complaints about double spending merits to the exact same post since the cooldown time was implemented so it's safe to say that it had an effect.
And merit sources will not like this warning message .
Are you sure you understand the specific proposal you're responding to?.You're saying that merit sources won't like an off-by-default option to protect against accidental over-spending (with a user-adjustable threshold)? Why would they object to that?
I think you might need a cup of coffee, or something. (Keep ingesting until you hear this sound.)
That's a nice idea. As a profile setting (that's off by default), I can see that largely solving the problem without rubbing anyone the wrong way.
Something like this:
Have a confirmation as a reminder is better than don't have it but it won't help careless people. They will continue to make mistakes and overspend bigger than the number of sMerit they want to send. Like they skip a reminder if they send a same number of merit to a same post within a short time like 15 or 30 seconds (I don't remember exactly the span triggers this reminder).Something like this:
And merit sources will not like this warning message
. I guess one could yet evolve it to add a second confirmation for sMerit amounts sent when larger than X (a second confirmation for any amount would become a nuisance and, in any case, drive people to click yes by force of habit).
That's a nice idea. As a profile setting (that's off by default), I can see that largely solving the problem without rubbing anyone the wrong way.Something like this:
Well, I came here to create the same thread as you and I found your case as well same as what happened to me. Just a few minutes ago on the Arabic local board I wanted to send 2 merits to someone. I'm using an iPad device, and I guess I didn't delete the 0. I noticed that I sent 20 merits by mistake.
You don't have to delete the default number #0, leaving it as it be. Then adding a number you want to send like 2, you will have 02 and click on Send. It's done, without mistake, without need to delete #0 at the starting place.I remember it can be send this way but not sure and I tested it seconds ago. Consequently, you got 1 merit from me. Actually when I sent it, it is 01 sMerit.
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The problem is, you can't edit or undo it and there's no going back once you click on send. I hope these settings for sending merits get edited soon. Many users have made the same mistake several times especially when using mobile, so adding extra confirmation button would be so helpful to prevent such mistakes IMO.
It is not necessary to undo or edit because you don't get any benefit from your sendable merit. What is valuable is merit, not sendable merit but of course you should send your sendable merit to only quality posts.
Well, I came here to create the same thread as you and I found your case as well same as what happened to me. Just a few minutes ago on the Arabic local board I wanted to send 2 merits to someone. I'm using an iPad device, and I guess I didn't delete the 0. I noticed that I sent 20 merits by mistake. The problem is, you can't edit or undo it and there's no going back once you click on send. I hope these settings for sending merits get edited soon. Many users have made the same mistake several times especially when using mobile, so adding extra confirmation button would be so helpful to prevent such mistakes IMO.
Sorry to here that buddy. But there is nothing you can do nor theymos would make changes to current merit sending system (I doubt). You should have been careful when sending merits. 22 sMerits are lot. The way I see it, you were saving those merits! And for whats? They are meant for given away others. Not keeping to yourself. What's done is done. Just be careful the next time.
But sending out on 22 merits for a post which isnt worth for those numbers then it would really be bringing out that upset feeling. 
There's nothing we can do since this is how the system works and this is why on the time that you would be inputting those numbers or digits then always trying to doublecheck
so that you would really be able to make yourself that sure on how much merit you would really be tending to send away and wont
really be making out this kind of mistakes.
Sorry to hear that buddy. But there is nothing you can do nor theymos would make changes to current merit sending system (I doubt). You should have been careful when sending merits. 22 sMerits are lot. The way I see it, you were saving those merits! And for whats? They are meant for given away others. Not keeping to yourself. What's done is done. Just be careful the next time.
Woke up this morning and was going through some threads and wanted to merit a post. My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts.
My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like ’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’
This system is not put in place because whoever you give merit to the post you must read the post properly and you will give him a fair merit. If you pass 22 while giving 2 merits then it is your failure. Because a person who can achieve Smerit in this forum cannot be such mistake. And if there is such a system, merit sources would get bored while giving merit because merit sources distribute merit in huge amount, they don't have huge extra time to give merit like us to sending Smerit.My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like ’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’
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Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made.
Merit is something that can never be deleted from a profile. Posts can be deleted and post deletion reduces activity but merit can never be edited and this system is perfect for forums. so adding this editing system seems pointless to me 
even though I have given thousands of merits I always have a stack of them to give.
Not everyone has that privilege, 
I remember even a few merit sources complain about the low allocation of source merit which is not enough to cover all the good posts they witness.But editing the merit after being sent is not likely in my choice. (Don't take away someone's joy, even if it happened due to a mistake).
giving a popup confirmation will defeat the actual purpose once they get used to it but it will be a real pain for people who used to send more merits. But what about giving a popup warning only for merit TX if it exceeds a certain amount, in my opinion, a warning for every merit TX for more than 10 merits can serve the purpose.
Your suggestion is nice
Not actually nice. It will make ranks more complicated. You rank up when having enough merit for a new rank, then someone demerit you, and you drop off, do you like it?It is less important and serious than how managers will pick participants. Their works to select participants for campaigns will be more difficult when applicant's earned merits can change quickly by demerit.
but after reading a few other comments from experienced members, I realise that there is more to it than just implementing that, as users can still have that option and still make the same mistake as they can fine-read through those warnings annoyingly and would not want to read them every time and can just be clicking on next till they get to the confirm page, which is why the main purpose of such an implementation has been defeated.
I think you have mistakenly press 2 more than once rather than pressing it once. I am sure you didn't double check or triple check before sending because once you click send it cannot be undone but before you can give merit, you need to click on merit button which doesn't send merit right away and that's the time where you input how many merits you are going to send ( quite sure you know about it). There's nothing you can ro about it now but to accumulate smerits again.
There is a very good way to avoid sending random merits, not to be greedy, and not to accumulate many merits. If you, OP, were more generous, then sending twenty-two merits at a time would be impossible. Such situations will never happen to people who do not accumulate their merits. Except for everything, don't be sorry; just please the person who got such a gift.
I don't remember having had 22 merits to send out, maybe when the merit system started and we had airdropped merits (I don't remember how many), but other than that I don't think I've even come close to accumulating 22 smerits. I'm sending them as they come along.
Some months ago, I was doubting whether to send 2 or 1 sMerits to a given post, and ended up sending 21. It happens every now and then.
As said, I think this happens to those who hoard merits and those of you who have a lot of smerits (top merit earners+merit sources). It doesn't happen to us commoners.
As the sender of tens of thousands of Merits, I'd hate to see a confirmation pop-up. Once you're used to it, you'll click it without reading, so all it does is waste your time.
I've made mistakes a few times, but in total it's about 0.2% of my sMerit that went wrong. It's not a big deal.
I've made mistakes a few times, but in total it's about 0.2% of my sMerit that went wrong. It's not a big deal.
I agree, looking for a solution for such a low error rate does not seem worthwhile.
yeah i have done 10 and 20 vs 1 or 2
and being a source my merits stack up.
even though I have given thousands of merits I always have a stack of them to give.
Woke up this morning and was going through some threads and wanted to merit a post. My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts.
My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like ’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’
Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made.
PowerGlove is there a way to go round this?
Definitely pained to have wasted all my smerits on a single post.
My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like ’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’
Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made.
PowerGlove is there a way to go round this?
Definitely pained to have wasted all my smerits on a single post.
Your incident just reminded me of another one that was done by me a few weeks ago. I wanted to send 2 smerits to a post, but due to a slow network or some other issue, 2+ 2 = 4 merits have been sent to a single post two times when the intention was to send 2 smerits. I think I can remember what happened at that time.
First, I sent two smerits, but due to the slow network, the page was loading for a long time, so I just refreshed it after a few minutes and bang! Two extra merits were sent to that post.
Nice to see. It seems that this 11 merits instead on 1 has happened so many times in the forum. This may not be the exact thread I am referring to. That one happened between lower ranked members which made the forum members more skeptical to believe it was unintentionally. Also, from the picture above it seems the one involving Sujonali happened far back 2019. I wasn't in the forum as of then.
This is a case of making a mistake and then blaming the forum for not having this feature, this request will be ignored so people will not be too lazy to check and double-check their actions If this happens to me I will just take it and blame myself not from forum's lack of of feature.
This is not about mistakes. It usually happen to newbies sending merits the first time. Anyone not familiar with the forum can make same mistake. I also made a merit sending mistake in another way. After sending merits to a user, I refreshed the page and the action happened twice but I didn't complain. If need be, his request should be put into consideration but it is not among the pressing issues in the forum. 
Woke up this morning and was going through some threads and wanted to merit a post. My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts.
My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like ’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’
Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made.
PowerGlove is there a way to go round this?
Definitely pained to have wasted all my smerits on a single post.
My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like ’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’
Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made.
PowerGlove is there a way to go round this?
Definitely pained to have wasted all my smerits on a single post.
I wish this request will be granted.
What if we have simple command if conditional statements, not like having complex system in merit system.
Something like "IF" or "WHAT IF" condition, it will be easier to manipulate this mistake without compromising the security log of the forum, atleast this is not an request that will be hard for the Moderators or Theymos to implement, we don't have to wait for mistakes that are going to be general or as some people are saying its a minor mistakes.
There are even more expert and programmers in this forum that will do more justice to some problems on the forum, we should allow proposal and review them before implementation, this is how bitcoin upgrade has been helpful, the forum shouldn't be left out because if we are talking about fear, many proposal that are impemented on BTC will have died so many years but more and more are still coming.
This has happened to me several times, but the solution is simple:
1) Install greasemonkey (firefox), or tampermonkey (chrome)
2) Download this code[1], developer ETFbitcoin and grue, source[2]
After that, you can send merits, and if you want to resend, you will not be able to send them again (unless you refresh the page).
Personally, I do not see any need to modify the current version, as the number of such errors is less than 1%.
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1) Install greasemonkey (firefox), or tampermonkey (chrome)
2) Download this code[1], developer ETFbitcoin and grue, source[2]
After that, you can send merits, and if you want to resend, you will not be able to send them again (unless you refresh the page).
Personally, I do not see any need to modify the current version, as the number of such errors is less than 1%.
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Code:
// ==UserScript==
// @name bitcointalk merit
// @version 1.3
// @author grue, minifrij, EcuaMobi, ETFbitcoin
// @source https://github.com/grue0/bitcointalk-scripts/
// @source https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2833350.0;0
// @description A very simple userscript that allows you to add merit without leaving the page
// @include https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=*
// @require https://code.jquery.com/jquery-3.4.1.min.js
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==
(() => {
var sMerit, source_sMerit, check_onClick = false, oneClick_amount = [1, 2, 5, 10, 50]
function check_sMerit(msgId){
// Added by EcuaMobi
$.post(
"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;msg=29048068"
).then((data) => {
sMerit = /You have ([0-9]+)<\/b> sendable/.exec(data)[1]
source_sMerit = /The next ([0-9]+) merit you spend will come from your source/.exec(data)[1]
show_popup(msgId)
}).catch(() => sMerit = null)
}
function show_popup(msgId){
if(sMerit!=null && source_sMerit==null) {
$("#em-smerit-count" + msgId).html('Available: '+sMerit+' ')
} else if (sMerit!=null && source_sMerit!=null) {
$("#em-smerit-count" + msgId).html('Available (yours | source): '+sMerit+' | '+source_sMerit+' ')
}else{
$("#em-smerit-count" + msgId).html('Getting sMerit amount... ')
}
$("#grue-merit-popup" + msgId).toggle()
}
// get csrf token from the logout link
let sc = $('td.maintab_back a[href*="index.php?action=logout;sesc="').attr("href");
sc = /;sesc=(.*)/.exec(sc)[1];
// Get remaining sMerit
check_sMerit()
// selector for the "+Merit" link
$('td.td_headerandpost div[id^=ignmsgbttns] a[href*="index.php?action=merit;msg="]').each((i, e) => {
const msgId = /msg=([0-9]+)/.exec(e.href)[1]
let oneClick_html = `
One-click send :
`
oneClick_amount.forEach((amount) => {
oneClick_html += `
`
})
const $popup = $(['
].join("\n"))
$popup.find("form").submit( (e) => {
e.preventDefault()
$popup.find('.sendButton')
.prop("disabled", true)
.val("Sending...")
$popup.find('.oneClick')
.prop("disabled", true)
const merits = e.target.elements["merits"].value;
$.post(
"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit",
{merits, msgID: msgId, sc}
).then((data) => {
//Error pages usually have this (rough heuristic)
if(data.includes("An Error Has Occurred!</title")) {<br /> throw "error"<br /> }<br /> //double check and see whether the post we merited was added to the list. Its msgId should be visible in the page source.<br /> if(data.includes("#msg" + msgId)) {<br /> alert("Merit added.")<br /> $("#grue-merit-popup" + msgId).toggle(false)<br /> if(!check_onClick){<br /> if(source_sMerit!=null && source_sMerit-merits>=0){<br /> source_sMerit -= merits<br /> }else if(source_sMerit!=null && source_sMerit>0){<br /> sMerit -= merits-source_sMerit<br /> source_sMerit = 0<br /> }else if(sMerit!=null){<br /> sMerit -= merits<br /> }<br /> }<br /> return<br /> }<br /> alert("Server response indeterminate.")<br /> })<br /> .catch(() => alert("Failed to add merit."))<br /> .always(() => {<br /> $popup.find('.sendButton')<br /> .prop("disabled", false)<br /> .val("Send")<br /> $popup.find('.oneClick')<br /> .prop("disabled", true)<br /> })<br /> })<br /> $popup.insertAfter(e)<br /><br /> $(e).click((e) => {<br /> e.preventDefault()<br /> if(check_onClick){<br /> check_sMerit(msgId)<br /> }else{<br /> show_popup(msgId)<br /> }<br /> })<br /> })<br /> $(".grue-merit-popup").toggle(false)<br />})()</div>[2] <a class="ul" href="/topic/m.52249695">https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52249695</a> </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like <span style="color: red;">’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’<br /></span></div>This will just bother the majority of people if they needed to confirm the merits they are sending before sending it everytime. If it is even considered it should be an option that can be toggled off and on depending on the user's preference.<br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made. <br /></div>This will have far reaching implications and should not be considered by the admins. Merits by design should not be reversible. </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890096">Quote from: stompix on September 23, 2023, 07:46:40 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Definitely pained to have wasted all my smerits on a single post. <br /></div><br />It's smerit, you would not benefit from hoarding it, and the fact that you had 22 of it, it means you've had it since at least last month, basically you're feeling bad for giving away something you're not keen on giving and you have no benefit from. So why?<br /></div>I assume that OP wanted to distribute the credits more evenly between different users.<br /><br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">~snip<br /></div>Next time you will be more careful and this incident is a lesson for everyone, not just you.<br /><br />Personally, I am quite happy with the current merit submission system, and such “stair” in the form of an additional pop-up window with a warning will only irritate me. There is no need to unnecessarily clutter the forum, which I personally like for its simplicity.<br /><br />It's a shame that you wasted your merits? Now you have a great incentive to accumulate new ones, which will have a positive effect on your rank. Take advantage of the new opportunity and don't be discouraged. </div>
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<div class="date">September 24, 2023, 01:12:56 AM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">✂️<br /><br />Definitely pained to have wasted all my smerits on a single post. <br /></div><br />Regarding sending sMerit, I still remember very well when I asked about messages that I thought were very useful that I saw under the topic or on the first page of each post. I created <a class="ul" href="/topic/m.62596189">custom topic to find the answer</a>. There came a legendary member warning me about my sMerit stack that I had never spent. At that time I found the answer I wanted because one of the legendary members answered my question correctly that it was factoids by attaching a link <a class="ul" href="https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo</a><br /><br />Since then I started to realize that my first mistake as a member of this forum was not implementing the merit system correctly and since then I started issuing sMerits to other users.<br /><br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890423">Quote from: philipma1957 on September 23, 2023, 09:05:18 AM</a></div><div class="quote">I will read your post later today and see what I think of you.<br /></div><br />I also want that for you <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif" alt="Grin" border="0" /> although I'm not the best poster. </div>
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<div class="date">September 24, 2023, 12:11:31 AM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62892400">Quote from: KingsDen on September 23, 2023, 06:40:48 PM</a></div><div class="quote">I think I have seen this kind of situation here in the forum. Although I cannot recall how it actually happened. All I can recall is that the lucky beneficiary of the unintended merit came back and handed the user some merits from the smerits. I may be wrong about this but I can remember Lovesmayfamilis also wrote on that thread. I don't know if she can remember what I am trying to recall.<br />Meanwhile, I have in other scenarios read where people sent number of merits than they intended, although this always happen with sending 11 merits instead of 1. This is my first time seeing the mistake of 2 and 22. <br /><hr />Op, I support your idea of getting a second confirmation before meriting. That is always applicable when actions are irreversible as in the case of merit sending.<br /></div><br />Yes, you are right. I remember that story well. This happened when there was an anniversary competition, and the user sujonali1819, instead of one merit, sent eleven by mistake. He did not ask to return, but the one who received so much merit returned all eleven to him, obviously thinking that such a loss for sujonali1819 would greatly upset him.<br /><br /><a class="ul" href="https://ibb.co/j58Pw1v" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><img class="userimg" src="https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FcvyS87c%2FScreenshot.png&t=655&c=lK5q0w6YU3LJ-Q" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a class="ul" href="/topic/m.53133959">https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53133959</a> </div>
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I think I have seen this kind of situation here in the forum. Although I cannot recall how it actually happened. All I can recall is that the lucky beneficiary of the unintended merit came back and handed the user some merits from the smerits. I may be wrong about this but I can remember Lovesmayfamilis also wrote on that thread. I don't know if she can remember what I am trying to recall.<br />Meanwhile, I have in other scenarios read where people sent number of merits than they intended, although this always happen with sending 11 merits instead of 1. This is my first time seeing the mistake of 2 and 22. <br /><hr />Op, I support your idea of getting a second confirmation before meriting. That is always applicable when actions are irreversible as in the case of merit sending. </div>
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<a name="msg62892287"></a> <a href="/topic/m.62892287">Re: Request for sent merit edit button</a> </div>
<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 05:54:02 PM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts.<br /></div>Well, it's your own choice to send smerits to one post or ten posts but if you sent those merits mistakenly still that's okay. The guy who got those merits was lucky today because instead of 2 merits he got 22. The smerits should always be send to the posts that deserve those merits because storing of those smerits won't help the one who stores them.<br /> <br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><br />My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like <span style="color: red;">’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’<br /></span><br />Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made. <br /></div>I don't think that members want to see that second confirmation warning especially the merit sources. The current way of sending merits is working fine for us and that's why changing it in any way will make it harder for members to send merits.<br /><br /><br /> </div>
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<a name="msg62891562"></a> <a href="/topic/m.62891562">Re: Request for sent merit edit button</a> </div>
<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 01:56:59 PM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Woke up this morning and was going through some threads and wanted to merit a <a class="ul" href="/topic/m.62882997">post</a>. My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts. <br /></div>That's a big mistake you have made here, but I think it's okay because in the crypto world, people make mistakes where they send their assets to another's wallet address by mistake, but you just spent your hardly earned Merits on a post that according to you don't deserve to get that much merits. <br /><br />I don't know if it is wise to ask that person for returns of merits, and I think you should really not do that, because that might come under the merit phishing technique, and you might end up with neutral tags. So, leave it now and start to work again and earn more merits. But I don't really understand why you saved those many smerits. <br /><br />You should use them and appreciate other's posts often, that way the merits you have earned will be in circulation and others will benefit from it. <br /><br />I think we don't need the edit button because this can be used for wrong purposes, and members can make foul use of it, and it needs so much modification in the forum code, so it is better this way. And you should be more careful next time. I think this mistake will make you confirm the number 10 times so that you don't make this mistake again. <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> </div>
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<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 12:44:44 PM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890432">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 09:06:21 AM</a></div><div class="quote">What actually messed mine up was like I just saw the post and was like let me send 2 then saw I had 24 smerits and in my head I would have 22 left after sending that two, then it was the 22 I ended sending. Maybe that’s punishment for hoarding something that was giving freely to me. But would have appreciated I splashed them on many posts or even a thread created not just a random reply. <br /></div>The mistake has been made and can never be reversed. I want you to take heart even though I know that you are probably complaining because the comment you merited was not worth such a huge amount of merit, but nevertheless, there is no offence in sending such a large number of merits to a comment or even a thread, and beside that, the merits are useless to your account since you are still sending them out to other users.<br /><br /><div class="quoteheader">Quote</div><div class="quote">Second confirmation would be actually helpful. But maybe things like this is teaching one how to avoid mistake on this crypto space, imagine it was bitcoin, I would probably be on drips now. <br /></div>Yes, a second confirmation will be helpful, but since it is smerit and it is given out for free, there is no need for more confirmation. If added, it will be good to take note and stop making such mistakes. </div>
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<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 12:31:35 PM</div>
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This is a case of making a mistake and then blaming the forum for not having this feature, this request will be ignored so people will not be too lazy to check and double-check their actions If this happens to me I will just take it and blame myself not from forum's lack of of feature. </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890504">Quote from: LoyceMobile on September 23, 2023, 09:23:15 AM</a></div><div class="quote">As the sender of tens of thousands of Merits, I'd hate to see a confirmation pop-up. Once you're used to it, you'll click it without reading, so all it does is waste your time.<br />I've made mistakes a few times, but in total it's about 0.2% of my sMerit that went wrong. It's not a big deal.<br /></div><br /><br />but for him it was 22/24 = 91.6 % <br /><br />I read more of his posts and found some decent ones so he now has received 8 merits from me. </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Woke up this morning and was going through some threads and wanted to merit a <a class="ul" href="/topic/m.62882997">post</a>. My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts. <br /></div>OMG, that's a big mistake, but your mistake is good for the youdacapt, as he received 22 merits. I am quite amazed to see that, you have that many smerits in your profile, to be honest, I am a man, who never held merits for a longer period of time, instead always found something good to give merit, due to my activeness, even sometimes I don't have merits but posts to give merits. <br /><br />I think the edit button can not be added, it's not that, it can not be implemented, but it will hurt the meaning of the merits. And people can use the edit button for many bad purposes because merit farming has been happening for some time here and then people can frame the merits sending and receiving. <br /><br />Besides that, a red statement would be wise, but if a person is in hype and giving merits in speed then there is no use of that alert notification. Because you will bluntly accept that notification and will still make the mistake. So, it is better to learn from your mistakes and be active in the future before giving merits. </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Woke up this morning and was going through some threads and wanted to merit a <a class="ul" href="/topic/m.62882997">post</a>. My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts. <br /><br />My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like <span style="color: red;">’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’<br /></span><br />. <br /></div><br />I don't think there is a need for this if you are just mindful or aware of what you're doing it will not happen, the forum should not create patches or modifications because somebody just got excited and carried away, anyway with this experience I'm sure you will be mindful next time, just charge it to experience the guy should thank you for being generous or your mistake. </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890331">Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on September 23, 2023, 08:43:38 AM</a></div><div class="quote">There is a very good way to avoid sending random merits, not to be greedy, and not to accumulate many merits. If you, OP, were more generous, then sending twenty-two merits at a time would be impossible. Such situations will never happen to people who do not accumulate their merits. Except for everything, don't be sorry; just please the person who got such a gift.<br /></div><br />I don't remember having had 22 merits to send out, maybe when the merit system started and we had airdropped merits (I don't remember how many), but other than that I don't think I've even come close to accumulating 22 smerits. I'm sending them as they come along. <br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890371">Quote from: DdmrDdmr on September 23, 2023, 08:51:15 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Some months ago, I was doubting whether to send 2 or 1 sMerits to a given post, and ended up sending 21. It happens every now and then.<br /></div><br />As said, I think this happens to those who hoard merits and those of you who have a lot of smerits (top merit earners+merit sources). It doesn't happen to us commoners.<br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890504">Quote from: LoyceMobile on September 23, 2023, 09:23:15 AM</a></div><div class="quote">As the sender of tens of thousands of Merits, I'd hate to see a confirmation pop-up. Once you're used to it, you'll click it without reading, so all it does is waste your time.<br />I've made mistakes a few times, but in total it's about 0.2% of my sMerit that went wrong. It's not a big deal.<br /></div><br />I agree, looking for a solution for such a low error rate does not seem worthwhile. </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890504">Quote from: LoyceMobile on September 23, 2023, 09:23:15 AM</a></div><div class="quote">As the sender of tens of thousands of Merits, I'd hate to see a confirmation pop-up. Once you're used to it, you'll click it without reading, so all it does is waste your time.<br />I've made mistakes a few times, but in total it's about 0.2% of my sMerit that went wrong. It's not a big deal.<br /></div><br />Unfortunately he wasn't used to sending out merits so he kept that much merit. Maybe from OP's point of view, you should keep your merits, don't share them anymore.... <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif" alt="Cheesy" border="0" /> </div>
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As the sender of tens of thousands of Merits, I'd hate to see a confirmation pop-up. Once you're used to it, you'll click it without reading, so all it does is waste your time.<br />I've made mistakes a few times, but in total it's about 0.2% of my sMerit that went wrong. It's not a big deal. </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Woke up this morning and was going through some threads and wanted to merit a <a class="ul" href="/topic/m.62882997">post</a>. My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts. <br /><br /></div><br />Considering that in this forum merit is something that is very valuable, you must be very sad because of this mistake. I never made a mistake like that because my merits always ran out, at most I had 3, and they ran out more often. That's why theymos warn against hoarding merits, so maybe this is karma for hoarding merits <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif" alt="Grin" border="0" /> </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889687">Quote from: Orpichukwu on September 23, 2023, 05:51:38 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Your suggestion is nice<br /></div>Not actually nice. It will make ranks more complicated. You rank up when having enough merit for a new rank, then someone demerit you, and you drop off, do you like it?<br /><br />It is less important and serious than how managers will pick participants. Their works to select participants for campaigns will be more difficult when applicant's earned merits can change quickly by demerit.<br /><br /><div class="quoteheader">Quote</div><div class="quote">it's just as similar as <a class="ul" href="/topic/ignore-user-confirmation-before-ignoring-5461934" title="Ignore user confirmation before ignoring topic">. Ignore user confirmation before ignoring </a>. This is where someone mistakenly adds another user to his ignore list without his knowledge, which leads him to make a suggestion for confirmation notification before approving the ignore list. If there is any chance that they can give this a second thought and consider it, then there will be possibilities of your suggesting to also be added to the to-do list of the admin, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.<br /></div>It is not similar, ignore a user can be done by yourself and it won't affect anyone else, only you. Nobody knows you ignore that user, this user or not, only you know it and it does not affect your rank or chance to join any signature campaign.<br /><br />It's different than merit and demerit. </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890371">Quote from: DdmrDdmr on September 23, 2023, 08:51:15 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Some months ago, I was doubting whether to send 2 or 1 sMerits to a given post, and ended up sending 21. It happens every now and then.<br /><br />I recalled seeing a script to go with Tampermonkey that, though created in origin to speed-up somewhat the meriting process, was later enhanced to include an interface that could come in handy to reduce these type of mess-ups:<br /><a class="ul" href="/topic/m.52249695">https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52249695</a><br /><br />I guess one could yet evolve it to add a second confirmation for sMerit amounts sent when <i>larger than X</i> (a second confirmation for <i>any</i> amount would become a nuisance and, in any case, drive people to click yes by force of habit).<br /><br /></div>What actually messed mine up was like I just saw the post and was like let me send 2 then saw I had 24 smerits and in my head I would have 22 left after sending that two, then it was the 22 I ended sending. Maybe that’s punishment for hoarding something that was giving freely to me. But would have appreciated I splashed them on many posts or even a thread created not just a random reply. <br /><br />Second confirmation would be actually helpful. But maybe things like this is teaching one how to avoid mistake on this crypto space, imagine it was bitcoin, I would probably be on drips now. <br /><br /> </div>
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<a name="msg62890371"></a> <a href="/topic/m.62890371">Re: Request for sent merit edit button</a> </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><…><br /></div>Some months ago, I was doubting whether to send 2 or 1 sMerits to a given post, and ended up sending 21. It happens every now and then.<br /><br />I recalled seeing a script to go with Tampermonkey that, though created in origin to speed-up somewhat the meriting process, was later enhanced to include an interface that could come in handy to reduce these type of mess-ups:<br /><a class="ul" href="/topic/m.52249695">https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52249695</a><br /><br />I guess one could yet evolve it to add a second confirmation for sMerit amounts sent when <i>larger than X</i> (a second confirmation for <i>any</i> amount would become a nuisance and, in any case, drive people to click yes by force of habit).<br /> </div>
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<a name="msg62890331"></a> <a href="/topic/m.62890331">Re: Request for sent merit edit button</a> </div>
<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 08:43:38 AM</div>
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There is a very good way to avoid sending random merits, not to be greedy, and not to accumulate many merits. If you, OP, were more generous, then sending twenty-two merits at a time would be impossible. Such situations will never happen to people who do not accumulate their merits. Except for everything, don't be sorry; just please the person who got such a gift. </div>
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<a name="msg62890320"></a> <a href="/topic/m.62890320">Re: Request for sent merit edit button</a> </div>
<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 08:40:19 AM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890096">Quote from: stompix on September 23, 2023, 07:46:40 AM</a></div><div class="quote">It's smerit, you would not benefit from hoarding it, and the fact that you had 22 of it, it means you've had it since at least last month, basically you're feeling bad for giving away something you're not keen on giving and you have no benefit from. So why?<br /></div><br />If you are a merit source or you get a lot of merit for your posts, then 22 or any other number of mistakenly sent merits does not mean anything - but if you are an average non-MS user or you get a few merits here and there, then such errors are not very pleasant. The OP would certainly distribute those merits to several users, just as I do with my sMerits, although I would much prefer to be able to reward some posts with more than 1 merit. </div>
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<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 08:35:33 AM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">PowerGlove is there a way to go round this? <br /></div>I don't have access to theymos' modifications to SMF 1.1.19, so there are things (merit system, trust system, etc.) that I'm unable to patch. Maybe one day theymos and I will come to an arrangement that broadens my reach, but for now, my hands are pretty much tied.<br /><br />I could see making some tweaks to the merit-sending UI (e.g. a passive notice when you're about to send merit to a banned user), but a confirmation dialog designed to prevent accidental over-spending is likely to annoy more people than it helps (I suppose it could be a profile setting that's off by default), and adding the ability to undo/edit merit transactions is inadvisable, IMO (I guess something like 180 seconds of "grace period" might be workable, but in general: I think it would be opening up a can of worms in exchange for very little upside, and it would confuse/break a lot of third-party tools).<br /><br />I'm sorry you accidentally drained your sMerit balance: be more careful in the future, yo. <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif" alt="Cheesy" border="0" /> </div>
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<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 08:03:00 AM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like <span style="color: red;">’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’<br /></span><br /></div><br />I believe what you said that from 2 to 22 sMerits was an accident, such an error can happen to anyone. While being in this forum for a few months now, I haven't seen anyone creating a post. Such issues on the forum happen rarely, it is not common to see some of the legendary members distributing a big chunk of sMerits. I cannot go and find those users now, nor do I think it is good to post links to such posts. <br /><br />Coming back to your question about whether a patch can be added or the admin can agree with that patch. The question from me to you is why? We are already using outdated forum software, the admin is least interested in upgrading it. I doubt your request would be accepted, it would be wise on your part to not commit such a mistake in the future. <br /><br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62890047">Quote from: Plaguedeath on September 23, 2023, 07:33:19 AM</a></div><div class="quote">It's really an accident or intentional? <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif" alt="Roll Eyes" border="0" /><br /></div><br />I was planning to ask the same question, let's assume it was accidental and give him the benefit of the doubt <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif" alt="Grin" border="0" />. </div>
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<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 07:46:40 AM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Definitely pained to have wasted all my smerits on a single post. <br /></div><br />It's smerit, you would not benefit from hoarding it, and the fact that you had 22 of it, it means you've had it since at least last month, basically you're feeling bad for giving away something you're not keen on giving and you have no benefit from. So why?<br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained,</div><br />Now imagine you would have sent 2 BTC instead of 2 mBTC <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> </div>
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<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 07:33:19 AM</div>
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It's really an accident or intentional? <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif" alt="Roll Eyes" border="0" /><br /><br />I disagree, adding new page to make sure we want to send our merit or not is time wasting. Actually I'd hope meriting could be more easier like having blank page in every post, fill the blank and then click send without need to confirm (pretty much similar like modify button in the right corner of our post). </div>
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<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 05:51:38 AM</div>
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This kind of mistake is actually kind of rude to make, as what was expected was to delete the first zero there and add your two there, and everything will be all right. The kind of mistake that I also think someone can make is a place where the person might try to send 1–5 merit and they add the number before the zero without remembering to delete the 0 and they end up sending 10, instead of 1, and 20 instead of 2, just like that, used 1–50 since someone can't send more than 50 merit at once. In your own line of mistake, you clicked on the merit page, deleted the zero, and added 2 twice. Maybe this was a result of a little distraction or a keyboard malfunction.<br /> <br />Your suggestion is nice; it's just as similar as <a class="ul" href="/topic/ignore-user-confirmation-before-ignoring-5461934" title="Ignore user confirmation before ignoring topic">. Ignore user confirmation before ignoring </a>. This is where someone mistakenly adds another user to his ignore list without his knowledge, which leads him to make a suggestion for confirmation notification before approving the ignore list. If there is any chance that they can give this a second thought and consider it, then there will be possibilities of your suggesting to also be added to the to-do list of the admin, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon. </div>
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<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 05:47:44 AM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889659">Quote from: Majestic-milf on September 23, 2023, 05:42:28 AM</a></div><div class="quote"> Ouch! I understand your pain, bruh but I doubt such will be considered. I hate to be the harbinger of bad news but these things are already there. While giving the merit, even though the words "are you sure you want to merit so and so" is not written, something like "this can't be undone" is there which clearly means you have to cross-check before doling your merits.. I hate to rub it in but you've just made someone's day <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif" alt="Grin" border="0" />..(esp if the recipient is someone looking to rank up)<br /></div><br />There’s literally a warning that sending merit can’t be undone right at the bottom of the send button. <br /><br /><div align="center"><img class="userimg" src="https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F09%2F23%2FP2GJ3.jpeg&t=655&c=ce9oxVSDXZZXyg" alt="" border="0" /></div><br />I agree this can't be edited just like trust feedback. Merit system is designed to become decentralized like Bitcoin. It's a "touch move". </div>
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<div class="date">September 23, 2023, 05:47:02 AM</div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">PowerGlove is there a way to go round this? <br /></div>PowerGlove is a helpful member for this forum, his badge shows his contributions as well as roles in the forum.<br /><br />The badge means "Responsibly disclosed forum security flaws".<br /><br />He does not have power to decide and change forum policies like adding demerit which has never been deployed in Bitcointalk.<br /><br /><a class="ul" href="/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350" title="Merit & new rank requirements topic">Merit & new rank requirements</a><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.28856522">Quote from: theymos on January 24, 2018, 06:00:11 PM</a></div><div class="quote">There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.<br /></div><br />When you click on Merit a post, at bottom, you see "This cannot be undone!". Yes, it cannot be undone. There are some merit transactions were reverted by theymos, a head admin, but he did it because of merit abuse. </div>
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<div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like ’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’<br /></div>That can not be done. Check and check the number of merits that you want to send again and again before sending it. <br /><br /><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.62889603">Quote from: EL MOHA on September 23, 2023, 05:26:08 AM</a></div><div class="quote">Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made.<br /></div>I do not see any reason for that, it is best as it is now that if you send merit already, you can not reclaim or reverse the merit that you have sent already.<br /><br />When you are about to send merit on the merit sending page, you will see it can not be undone immediately under the send button, that is enough as a warning that the merit sent can not be reversed. </div>
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<a name="msg62889659"></a> <a href="/topic/m.62889659">Re: Request for sent merit edit button</a> </div>
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Ouch! I understand your pain, bruh but I doubt such will be considered. I hate to be the harbinger of bad news but these things are already there. While giving the merit, even though the words "are you sure you want to merit so and so" is not written, something like "this can't be undone" is there which clearly means you have to cross-check before doling your merits.. I hate to rub it in but you've just made someone's day <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif" alt="Grin" border="0" />..(esp if the recipient is someone looking to rank up) </div>
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Nah! I doubt those will be implemented the first is a good suggestion though. <br />And again you’re not the first user who have mistakenly sent more than the amount of merit they want to send to a post, so when next you want to send merit just make sure you check what you typed again before you click “send” it takes less than 30 seconds to do so, so next time do not be in a hurry to release your merit. </div>
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Woke up this morning and was going through some threads and wanted to merit a <a class="ul" href="/topic/m.62882997">post</a>. My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts. <br /><br />My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like <span style="color: red;">’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’<br /></span><br />Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made. <br /><br />PowerGlove is there a way to go round this? <br /><br />Definitely pained to have wasted all my smerits on a single post. </div>
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// @name bitcointalk merit
// @version 1.3
// @author grue, minifrij, EcuaMobi, ETFbitcoin
// @source https://github.com/grue0/bitcointalk-scripts/
// @source https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2833350.0;0
// @description A very simple userscript that allows you to add merit without leaving the page
// @include https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=*
// @require https://code.jquery.com/jquery-3.4.1.min.js
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==
(() => {
var sMerit, source_sMerit, check_onClick = false, oneClick_amount = [1, 2, 5, 10, 50]
function check_sMerit(msgId){
// Added by EcuaMobi
$.post(
"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;msg=29048068"
).then((data) => {
sMerit = /You have ([0-9]+)<\/b> sendable/.exec(data)[1]
source_sMerit = /The next ([0-9]+) merit you spend will come from your source/.exec(data)[1]
show_popup(msgId)
}).catch(() => sMerit = null)
}
function show_popup(msgId){
if(sMerit!=null && source_sMerit==null) {
$("#em-smerit-count" + msgId).html('Available: '+sMerit+' ')
} else if (sMerit!=null && source_sMerit!=null) {
$("#em-smerit-count" + msgId).html('Available (yours | source): '+sMerit+' | '+source_sMerit+' ')
}else{
$("#em-smerit-count" + msgId).html('Getting sMerit amount... ')
}
$("#grue-merit-popup" + msgId).toggle()
}
// get csrf token from the logout link
let sc = $('td.maintab_back a[href*="index.php?action=logout;sesc="').attr("href");
sc = /;sesc=(.*)/.exec(sc)[1];
// Get remaining sMerit
check_sMerit()
// selector for the "+Merit" link
$('td.td_headerandpost div[id^=ignmsgbttns] a[href*="index.php?action=merit;msg="]').each((i, e) => {
const msgId = /msg=([0-9]+)/.exec(e.href)[1]
let oneClick_html = `
One-click send :
`
oneClick_amount.forEach((amount) => {
oneClick_html += `
`
})
const $popup = $(['
',
oneClick_html,
'
',
' ',
'
'oneClick_html,
'
',
' ',
'
].join("\n"))
$popup.find("form").submit( (e) => {
e.preventDefault()
$popup.find('.sendButton')
.prop("disabled", true)
.val("Sending...")
$popup.find('.oneClick')
.prop("disabled", true)
const merits = e.target.elements["merits"].value;
$.post(
"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit",
{merits, msgID: msgId, sc}
).then((data) => {
//Error pages usually have this (rough heuristic)
if(data.includes("