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Quote from: DaveF on May 22, 2024, 05:55:12 AM

With the pause in posts between 2014 and 2017 and then 2018 and early this year, when at the same time the account also registered at the altcoin forum
And the plagiarism accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63604416
And the stolen account accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63729071
And the AI posts

I looked at the post history of the OP and also found that particular pause as well a other posting habits somewhat noticeable: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kuriboh-112675

Quote from: logfiles on May 22, 2024, 07:54:03 AM

Let's settle this. If you are indeed the original owner of the account. Can you please sign a message from any of these addresses you repeatedly posted in 2013-2014?

There was a case I was involved with when a spammer AI using account was enrolled in the Stake campaign had purchased the account but also signed a message when updating the address therefore it gave him support. Eventually he received multiple negative tags and gave up on that account only to no doubt use his other accounts in the hope they do not receive tags.

I could be wrong but in my opinion any signing of a message of known addresses has now become effectively worthless because it has become a prominent part of account sales to include signed messages as tool to prove account ownership. The account traders now include signed messages/private keys and email addresses in order to make detection more difficult.

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Let's settle this. If you are indeed the original owner of the account. Can you please sign a message from any of these addresses you repeatedly posted in 2013-2014?

1. 19BRyUFxNcXwNQvxYr6zv8AghSDr4Uqp5o
2. 1JZLm9ApczmHSG2DktYx8Y7EJ6Ja2TpdDi
3. 1BjR36M1YBr5r2gwymJEMZewq81Zn5FkQQ
4. 12pEP81giVeqfJ2ChCM96xVMNXsmTRYrZS
5. 1QAotfbY6xYncaf6yafWB9YKGRjZqkMYG8

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If you fail to prove that you are the original owner of the account, I might add my negative tag on your profile as well. We can not trust the new person behind the account.

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With the pause in posts between 2014 and 2017 and then 2018 and early this year, when at the same time the account also registered at the altcoin forum
And the plagiarism accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63604416
And the stolen account accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63729071
And the AI posts

It all points to this account not being with the original owner.
The negative trust is deserved.

-Dave

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I wouldn't remove a negative tag just because the OP was already dishonest on the forum by posting using AI. If you, OP, are not capable of writing on your own, how can you qualify for a rank higher than beginner? Learn one rule that will be a good lesson in your case: “Money can’t buy everything.” You can't buy brains. Yes, you bought an account to quickly participate in subscription campaigns. But how are you different from those people who didn’t? Because they persistently go step by step in their rank and thereby become filled with knowledge. In your case, with an empty head, it is difficult to talk about the rank of the senior participant.

If you cheat once, you will cheat several more times.

The tag is supported.

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Quote from: kuriboh on May 21, 2024, 02:18:44 PM

I was in no way prepared for what happened to my account. It was a mistake that I was given a natural warning for taking the idea of the AI, which is acceptable, but to be given negative trust for this simple mistake is not fair at all. I checked my post quality, and nutildah gave me a natural tag for my mistake. after giving me a chance

Quote from: nutildah on February 03, 2024, 08:37:35 PM

So its hard to believe anything you have to say from this point going forward. If you want some real advice, I recommend trying to be more human in your posts.

Poker Player gave me negative trust. What happened? My account has been compromised, and so many storms have passed. I will tell you to remove my negative trust and look into my matter. Request to withdraw my negative trust. Please consider my issue and remove my negative trust.

What does AI have to do with you having recently purchased the account?

As nutildah says, not everyone has the same opinion regarding red tagging people who buy accounts.

In my case I want to specify that I came to a conclusion some time ago: you bought the account 10 years ago and since then you have been a good forum member? No red tag, at most a neutral tag. Have you bought the account recently, after the introduction of the merit system? Yes, it is worth it.

In your case I see that I put "recently" bought account.

There could be intermediate cases, of someone for example who bought the account in 2020 (after the introduction of the merit system) and since then has been a good forum member. But that is not what usually happens. What usually happens is that someone who takes the fast track we usually find out that they have also broken the rules in other ways, like with other alts joining campaigns, sending merits to each other and things like that.

FYI, a single red tag nowadays does not prevent you from joining signature campaigns. It can make it more difficult, though.

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Quote from: nutildah on May 21, 2024, 08:14:38 PM

Let's get one thing straight first: you bought your account.

Second, I'm not for red tagging people who purchased accounts, but I'm not against it either. Opening a thread complaining about the situation is more likely to have the effect of gaining additional red tags than removing the one you currently have. No one is going to change their trust settings based on your complaint.

I know: you paid good money for this account and you hate to see it go to waste. I suggest to you instead to concentrate on ranking up your other accounts rather than restoring the reputation of this one.

Reply to kuriboh (sorry for being a pain in the ass dude)

If this is the case, the tag belongs to you kuriboh and it's nothing to discuss IMO. Even tho I am fresh here I still think buying accounts is very wrong, and not even fun? Isn't it much more fun to farm your way up in the ranks yourself and earn it yourself? And it's also unfair for the people that have farmed for years to get where they are today and then a random guy just buy a account and get all advantages like a reputable member, it's not fair.
And a tag is right in this case.

Same in WoW (World of Warcraft) people buy accounts their to, but it's no big deal, but it's so much more fun to start from scratch and farm your way up to rankings and get your own Achievements Points etc.

But sometimes some users get a very easy way to the top, and others need to fight very hard for years I guess and it all depends on who you are and what you support.
But follow my previous advice, don't take tag's so seriously, instead show what and who you are with your own actions, but you maybe already did that? Cry

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Let's get one thing straight first: you bought your account.

Second, I'm not for red tagging people who purchased accounts, but I'm not against it either. Opening a thread complaining about the situation is more likely to have the effect of gaining additional red tags than removing the one you currently have. No one is going to change their trust settings based on your complaint.

I know: you paid good money for this account and you hate to see it go to waste. I suggest to you instead to concentrate on ranking up your other accounts rather than restoring the reputation of this one.

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I wont name any user because I ain't involved in the Feedback-war but IMO sadly it's to many keyboard warrior's on this forum and the only thing they can do to feel strong is giving feedback and they don't even care if it's legit or not. They are addicted to do this so if i was you I shouldn't care much about it. Just let your action's speaks about you and who you are and what you do and not some feedback that a person left in a dark room while he was holding his three centimeter penis at the same time he got erection. They get endorphins when they giving feedback, most normal people get it from exercise, having sex or doing something fun or being with friends and family, but keyboard warriors is another short of ___!

But if you doing something wrong you should get feedback so future users can be warned of course!

But we also got a lot of people that leaving feedback and doing it in a legit and good way and I got huge respect for them and it's them that keeping this forum alive!
But sadly many is abusing it to max and it's destroying the forum and nothing else! But it's a life outside this forum to so don't care to much.

Only my worthless shitty opinion / BabyB.

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No one would be able to remove negative trust even mods can't able to remove them.

Have you tried to contact who gives you negative trust?
That should be the one you contacted to and tell him the reason or point him to this thread for discussion.
Because he is the one who can remove it or change it into neutral.

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It is called neutral tag and not natural tag. You repeated natural tag which I do not think is a typo.

Account sales should be discourage because it can lead to scam, it can be a compromised account, it may lead to ban after finding a mistake. That is why it is good to tag account sellers with negative trust.

But you are the buyer, I do not agree with Poker Player red tag. Neutral tag is enough as a warning to let forum users know that your account is a bought account. Not that you scam someone or you cheat in any campaign or participate in a contest with alts. No bad allegation against you. So why reg tag @Poker Player? Please it would be good if you change it to neutral. It is enough for people to know what you are saying. I am only suggesting it.

But why buy an account when it is simple to rank up on this forum? Many people see it hard because they are only here for money through signature campaign. Change that kind of mindset and prefer to begin with quality posts. You can grow an account successfully.

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I was in no way prepared for what happened to my account. It was a mistake that I was given a natural warning for taking the idea of the AI, which is acceptable, but to be given negative trust for this simple mistake is not fair at all. I checked my post quality, and nutildah gave me a natural tag for my mistake. after giving me a chance

Quote from: nutildah on February 03, 2024, 08:37:35 PM

So its hard to believe anything you have to say from this point going forward. If you want some real advice, I recommend trying to be more human in your posts.

Poker Player gave me negative trust. What happened? My account has been compromised, and so many storms have passed. I will tell you to remove my negative trust and look into my matter. Request to withdraw my negative trust. Please consider my issue and remove my negative trust.

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