EDIT: After I made this post, I did get a refund from Adam. See the other replies in the thread. I'm now marking this as resolved.
Adam B. Dada runs
7bucktees.com, and ran the now-defunct
coinsmiths.com. On July 5th, 2014 I ordered a wooden "Bitcoin Accepted Here" sign from CoinSmiths. It was $10, plus $3.45 shipping, which I paid via Bitcoin. Not a huge amount of money, but I feel that this is still worth warning others about.
By July 29th (24 days later), my order hadn't even shipped. The "from" address on my email receipt was
[email protected], so I responded to it:
Hi-
I ordered this item over three weeks ago, and it's still listed as
"processing". Why is it taking so long?
-Chris
The response was surprisingly prompt:
Chris:
I shut down CoinSmiths this weekend due to another team dropping the ball
completely. I will be posting about it tomorrow, and I will be moving all
orders over to my other print shop at 7bucktees.com. In addition, I will
be giving a store credit in an amount equal or greater to the order total.
This is the third team of people I have hired and paid in Bitcoin that has
failed the site. I've been involved in Bitcoin since the first year, and
while I love the currency and use it daily, it's become impossible to hire
and motivate people for some reason. Very frustrating, and costing me
thousands of dollars a month in wasted effort, ugh.
I'll email you tomorrow and I have my guys at 7bucktees.com processing all
the failed jobs as we speak.
Me:
Thank you for the prompt reply. I had ordered one of your wooden table
signs, not a shirt. Will 7bucktees be able to deliver that?
Adam:
Yep. I shut down the CoinSmiths shop on Saturday from out of town, and had
my 7bucktees manager go over and take the laser engraver, the sticker
printer (which weighs like 1500 pounds) and some other hardware. I know
they're setting everything up, getting drivers to work, and trying to
figure out what orders shipped and didn't. I am hopeful orders will start
going out tomorrow -- as long as the wood isn't warped. I ordered a fresh
batch of wood on Monday but I haven't heard if it's coming today or not!
Would you do me a small favor? Please go over to
www.7bucktees.com/helpand create a new help desk ticket with your CoinSmiths order number. This
is only so that my customer service people have a better view of the
discussions. I am on that help desk as well (you'll see my name and face
when I reply), but my customer service reps will do a better job of
updating you!
Me:
Will do. Thanks!
I don't see a way to create an account on 7bucktees without placing an
order, and I need to log in in order to create a helpdesk ticket.
Adam:
Oh crap. Stupid me. Sorry about that. Give me an hour, I have my webdevs
on speakerphone right now!
My ticket on 7bucktees:
Haven’t received CoinSmiths order
I ordered the medium-size wooden “Bitcoin Accepted Here” table sign from CoinSmiths on July 5th, and have yet to receive it. I talked to Adam Dada via email, and he said I should open a helpdesk ticket on this site. My order number is 540.
The receipt from my order:
(snip)
Me to Adam via email:
All set now. Thanks again.
Adam posts a comment on the ticket:
Got it, thanks. One of my customer service reps will bounce in here when they open for the day!
Adam via email again:
i responded to it just to get myself in the updates. i believe we open the
shop at 11am today (an hour from now), so someone should bounce in after
that.
i just hired a stay-at-home mom yesterday who will monitor the help desks
outside of regular business hours, but we haven't trained her yet, so i
doubt she'll be saying anything yet. her job is to make sure everyone else
does their job!
sorry again for the confusion. bitcoin is awesome, i love it, but it's a
real headache when you let other people into wallet access, etc. learning
lesson for me, big time.
Me:
No worries. I'm actually not in a huge rush to receive my order, I just
wanted to make sure it hadn't been forgotten about.
I don't know if he took that as a cue that I'm safe to ignore or what, but all of my communication attempts after this point have gone unanswered.
On September 17th (50 days after my conversation with Adam, 74 days since my original order), I posted a comment on the support ticket:
So it's been another month and a half or so. What's the hold up?
No response. On September 24th (7 days later, 81 days since the order), I try emailing Adam:
Hi Adam-
After you had me open up the support thread on 7bucktees, I never
actually received any further communication from your customer service
staff. Is this thing actually going to get made? If not, can I get a refund?
Here's the support thread link:
(snip)
-Chris
Still nothing. On September 30th (6 more days, total of 87 days), hoping to get the attention of the support staff, I open another ticket on 7bucktees:
Refund Request – it’s been THREE MONTHS
I placed an order for a “Bitcoin Accepted Here” sign on CoinSmiths on July 5th. My order number is 540. I’ve waited nearly three months to receive it. At this point I just want a refund. The total cost of the order, including shipping, was $13.45. I have a previous ticket here which has been ignored: (snip)
You can send the money to my Paypal account (snip), or I can give you a Bitcoin address to use if you’d prefer that.
I also sent an email to Adam directly:
No one has responded to my support ticket, so I've opened up a new one
requesting a refund (see below):
(snip)
I placed an order for a “Bitcoin Accepted Here” sign on CoinSmiths on
July 5th. My order number is 540. I’ve waited nearly three months to
receive it. At this point I just want a refund. The total cost of the
order, including shipping, was $13.45. I have a previous ticket here
which has been ignored:
(snip)
You can send the money to my Paypal account (snip), or
I can give you a Bitcoin address to use if you’d prefer that.
No response to those either. It's October 10th as I'm writing this up, 10 days since my last communication attempt, and a grand total of 97 days since I ordered the sign. I have not received the product that I ordered and I have not received a refund. I have not gotten any response from Adam Dada or from anyone working for him since July.
It looks like this isn't just an isolated incident either:
According to the Reddit thread, some people apparently do receive their orders. I'm not sure if this is an intentional selective scam on Adam's part, if he's just incompetent, or if he's simply too lazy and indifferent to make sure that his customers receive the products that they pay for. In any case, beware of any business that he's involved with.