Topic: Restart, is it a good thing for humanity? (Read 398 times)

Well, I don't think restarting is a good thing for us as once we make a mistake, we can't change it; instead, we will never allow it to happen again. However, having a fresh start when someone has made a huge error that needs to be corrected can assist to create a new plan.

The restart stuff would have been a better option if the human race have not gone too far on things that can benefit only them, the world is so civilized to extent that there are laws they can abide with at this time, when you look at the way things are going, you will understand that people don't think alike and this will amount to a serious problem if this opinion of yours is been adopted, at this point if some of the thing you mentioned is been removed, you will see that human beings are the most complex in reality, humans are very difficult to decide for, though this opinion would have been helpful but many people will adapt to it.

I like to think about it how the anime Shingeki no Kyojin, or Attack on Titan do it because of the fact that there are no weapons (The Titans) anymore but it's like humans to have that kind of conflict when something disagrees with their belief or some sort. It's always going to be there and maybe develop again someday when some people experience hurt.

If someone experiences negativity or just plain hurting, there would be vengeance and it's the circle again. Imagine experiences in your life that are small but since they hurt you, they somehow give you vengeance or something to that nature.

Restart wouldn't make that much of a difference IMO.

Without the Internet, things will go harder, and things will not go as we want again. In fact, without the internet, how can we even communicate effectively? I believe the Internet has made things easier for us. Even in the current generation, most people eat their daily food on the internet. They earn through the internet, so what do we think this people's lives will turn to? I believe these people will suffer economically and financially. So therefore, I think the Internet is contributing to our lives to make things easier for us, so anything that will make the Internet disappear will be no fun for people. People now study through the Internet; different conversations take place; secretly, all those things will be open if there is no internet, and there will be problems.


Exactly. And many people have done many things that they need to be punished for, and if they say restart, this people won’t know what they are doing or how it is to do such things to people, so it is better to get rid of these people before bringing up this type of idea because even if restarted, these same people will still do the same thing since they don't know how it feels. However, these people are the people who want things to be okay in a country, but for their own benefit, they don't want things to be right for the citizens, so how things become better is only by punishing those people, even without restart, if they will be able to handle the wicked souls and get them punished, there will be no problem.

You know. In my opinion one of the biggest obstacles when comes to addressing global problems is that many people have grown skeptical on the scientific approaches to solved them, it was not like that before.
For example, remember the problem with the ozone layer? Scientist got together and warned the world about the danger which was ahead if people did not stop using flour-carbon in cooling systems and aerosols, slowly but steadily people started to change those harmful chemicals and we managed to save the ozone layer before something even more serious happened.
Nowadays, with the climate change there are so many people who do not even acknowledge there is a problem or even deny the existence of climate change, a lot of the common sense has gotten lost since the 90s.

The offer mentioned reason are the many reasons why some are advocating for a restart and as a whole component we must have to come out with a lasting solution that will place the global class segregation into different classes that will freely interrelate and interconnect where both classes are dependent on each other because that way we solve the issues of inequality in the world and also pursue equal right and justice and a world where there will be no need for a restart or a conflict of interest among race and people.

challenges and conflicts persist, and the trajectory of human development is influenced by a multitude of factors, including social, political, economic, and environmental dynamics. Whether humanity as a whole becomes "better" is contingent on our ability to address global issues such as inequality, climate change, conflict resolution, and the ethical use of emerging technologies

Do you think a restart without the internet and military sounds good, it sounds strange cause a generation without the use of internet will be grouped into the analog generation, 65.7% of people make use of the internet for research, work etc so the world can't just do without the internet and modern use of technology
If the world is ready for a restart we should be aware that oppositions will always come, war, fight, hate speech etc,
A restart doesn't guarantee the end of conflict.
The best is the world should learn to live in peace first I think if the world can be united and live in peace where there's no war then there's no need for a restart.
Humans can never be a slave to new inventions rather new inventions keep shaping the growth of our society and promoting the digital era.

Let's not even go there because it's something that will take us back to where we are coming from, remember things will not just be like this including the forum we have, bitcoin, cars, phones, modern houses and all forms of developments that the world have earned throughout the years, so now i want to ask why should we go for the old ways we ever once thought of being tired of, are they detrimental to us now or we just want to have an extra bite of those past era.

I think even if we restart modern civilization, nothing will change, maybe a little will change, but the outcome of everything will still be the same. Greedy, evil people, people who want to be at the top will not disappear. Others want to explore, do something new, etc. It seems to me that this kind of behavior is the nature of people.

We will just repeat the history.

For example, if you watched the anime Attack on Titan, the same thing will happen. No matter what the character does to change history, the war is still not really avoided because there are people who are greedy, this is the nature of people.

Restart, is it a good thing for humanity?


It's a good thing. Why? Because it will give the people what they want... full righteousness or full corruption. The scary thing is the thing that will have to happen before a restart. And that is an END. Death is the end.

The restart is the resurrection on the last day. Believers in Jesus will be accepted into everlasting righteousness. But the unbelievers will go to the place they have chosen, everlasting corruption.

We will have peace after that.

If you want a restart of going back to the life without internet, this wouldn't change anything because the people that was existing then might be no more. So it will need us to go back to when we were all children or even go back into the womb of our parents, especially those of us that were yet to be born by then. And our dead families in power then will wake up and take over power. This is because it is was nice then in that time with the people in control.

Apart from that happening a restart will not have any impact on the society because people in this new generation already have the knowledge to build back whatever technology that is still existing now and their character and thoughts have not yet change. The only thing is that it will draw us backwards and this will hit the economy big time. This is because one can use bitcoin for p2p payment across boarder without a third-party for goods and services but you will now pass through a heck of stress by using gold to pay for commodity, making life more miserable for the digital world citizens.

Instead of you sending emails to someone in the US on a job, you have to go down to the post office and pay to the post service to send your mail to that person in US, which sucks and wastes time.

If you guys have played PlayStation exclusive game Horizon Zero Dawn, it could happened because humans keep improving their technologies until they become uncontrollable and it will be the same reason for Humanity to face extinction because they gonna create some deadly weapons that could erase not only our history but the entire civilizations except leaving a few survivors. this is the game all about and humanity will be back to the old era and no more machines will work because everyone doesn't know how to use it because all of those who can are killed instantly without leaving any trace of manuals for their technologies.

It's hard to figure out if this is a good thing for humanity. The modern age has undergone a great transformation of which people are increasingly moving towards the imaginary civilization that floats on the screen instead of the real civilization. A makey world has emerged alongside the real world the online world. As in the offline world there are all kinds of elements. The difference is in the place of feeling people are enjoying more things through the internet so it will take time to change.

human has the nature of adapting into whatever circumstances life throws at them and will always find a way of copping in the midst of whatever limitation it faces.

The internet is not the reason why we have consistent cases of wars happening here and there. If my assumption isn't wrong, there might be a greater number of wars in the past compared to this present age but the difference is that because of the role of the internet in passing out information easily across the globe, people now easily gets to know the different crisis disturbing the land. The past year's of living without the internet has gone and the world have moved on a great deal to enjoying the numerous advantage of this age and so I doubt that it is necessary to want to go back to those age where we didn't have the internet connection and I don't think a restart is necessary at all, what the world needs now is a means to reducing it current limitations and also finding a way of making things easier for the masses.

There is no guarantee that if we restart this whole change the world has experience we would be better off than what we are now.

Thomas  Hobbs tried as much as possible to give us a vivid definition of what the state of nature was at that time, and he tried to describe it as brutal, cruel and lawless, then anyone with strength will rule over his fellow since there is no laws or government to serve as a protector of laws and orders in the society.

Alot have chaged for good and modern society is muce better the internet has given birth to alot of positive development in the world and in this 21st century our generation has found the greatest tools for human development on the internet, so for sure I will never consider us going back to the era of cave men when there is no interconnectedness and no industrializations.

Singapore is one of the best.

The trouble is, there is no way to restart without allowing corruption to come in. Almost every new nation that starts up has this idea as one of its goals.

The only way a one-world-government could remain without corruption that would ultimately doom it, is that it is a kingship with a totally righteous king, and a king who can read the minds of everybody else... especially those in government.

And that is what will happen when Jesus formally returns. Up until then, the best leaders of governments will be true Christians who follow the ways of Jesus as written in the Bible.

A restart which would not allow anyone to become a corrupt person or a criminal ever again, sounds like something which would not be possible to be reached by common or even human means. You must be talking about the restart as a biblical simil of the Utopic times to come after all evil on the planet is destroyed.
Anyways, there are systems of government which nowadays have managed to step down corruption and criminality tk very low levels, Japan comes to mind, so does those countries called "Nordic ones" in the upper boundaries of Europe.

I think rather than a restart, which will not benefit the quality of life for those in modern countries, it is best to get the hell off this rock and find a long term stable second option. It is crazy to think that all life as we know it could perish for any number of reasons. This is why SpaceX is doing great work and why so many rich folks are exploring space programs.

The reason why restart is a bad thing is that the criminal leaders in banking and government, etc., will be forgiven for their crimes. Prosecute these criminals, first, and make them pay the people for their crimes in money and property, and with prison time, or execution. Then, do the restart in ways that nobody can become criminal leaders ever again.

Sorry if I can no longer respond here, I will ignore this board to focus on what matters, politics is no use, actions will speak.  It has been an honor talking to you all.

Restart, is just a new beginning, nothing scary, we will rise from the ashes once again stronger and united, if it ever happens.😉

Nobody cannot change for good and better in life, situations changes and people also changes, so how can we get used to something in particular for too long without having a change in such, in the race of life, it's not the survival of the fittest alone, but we need to consider those around us as well that we are all moving, in doing so, we are helping others while in position to also be helped for that desiring change we want about ourselves.

To be honest I would not be keen on the idea. I enjoy life the way it is, the people in power, the true elites terrify me. All their ideas of a Great Reset & total control. I would not like any huge changes to the way we live other than the gradual innovation that we currently have.

Guess you mean "no Modern Military" and "no Banking System" because Military and banking system are not really modern institutions. They have been in existence for many centuries, though the ancient ones may not be so modern compared to what we have today.

Secret is necessary unless in society where no evil exists and everyone is trustworthy. Things are kept secret mainly for safety reasons. If you are completely safe in a society where everyone is good no need to keep secret unless maybe for games/test.


Now to the topic, restarting humanity or society will only be good if the society will start with just/good law that must be followed always. A slight deviation from the law will definitely lead them back to the issues you highlighted. Besides, those issues are not unique to modern world. You can find them  worst in primitive societies.
In regards to the use of modern technologies, to be honest the issue is with the way they were designed or made, and the abuse/misuse of them. It's OK for society to be very creative/productive as long as what they produce is good/safe. There is a race by humans to be at the top and they believe having the best tech/stuff will get them there. And if you try to restrict yourself from producing such tech other people would do it and get there before you and probably have advantage over you. So, you see why it's hard not to be very productive in the world. You are always under pressure to get there first.

Unfortunately, the current world's way of advancement is preprogrammed to move in predetermined direction. Any invention you make that deviate from the program, no matter how good won't be accepted or would be modified to be compatible with the program. The goal of the program is to get societies to a point where they are completely controlled.

The truth revealed at the present time is not enough to connect people more together, but I have to think positively that we are still on the journey to upgrade civilization despite the chaos. I think it's a trade-off to get what we want.

Regarding the Internet issue, I don't think things that appear in current life are the problem, but each of us is the cause of the problem. Because of greed, narrow-mindedness, ignorance, arrogance, cynicism,... but the wrong point of view keeps us stuck in a rather stereotypical lifestyle, and really, I only think about improving people's morality, which will change things for the better. But to operate it, I'm not sure, because balance with all when unity is the result we want is still the process we seek after many other civilizations together.

I think their won't be life without all this, all this you mentioned have their own function to make life easy. People don't need the banking system accept money is not useful,  you don't need money to get a home , money is not needed  to get food,  money is not just needed to survive. I think the reason why have the military and the police to install peace and to put the society in other. If the society is a place that is peaceful and the people are law abiding their won't be any need for the military or the police. I think based on the nature of life their are somethings we can't really do without as humans.

First of all, I'm surprised to see some reasonable people here, which is a good thing, but have you ever thought about why the big flood occured? I mean aren't we close to that state? If we don't do it, God will decide, but if we try it ourselves, he will help us, we need to send the signal that we are still worthy of living on this planet, because history shows hundreds of modern and advanced civilizations vanished from the face of the earth over nights, we can only see their remnants, which should be a sign of warning.

Can you imagine what could have happened if satoshi was not forced to invent Bitcoin? I say forced, because he wasn't living in a palace with servants to come up with this idea out of boredom, no, a force from outside made him to make a move, and now what if we could destroy all the governments and their corrupted apparatus to build a decentralized government ruling the world? an AI  with admins being humans, or simply a network of nodes following a single protocol, with no discrimination when it comes to decide a course of action to be taken in order to have a result.

For instance, no favoritism in bureaucracy, or no bureaucracy at all, no control of wealth in to the hands of a few, but instead using the God given wealth to advance everyone's lives regardless of their color and "race", currently there is no justice, so we either fight for it, or lose everything we have.

We are so comfortable with modern civilization that we have forgotten about its drawbacks and how to avoid them. There will come a day when many people will be forced to reject modern civilization in favour of the ancient. I won't say the old age was better than the new age because I didn't spend much time in the old age and have already lived more of the modern age. All of this was done to make the world a better place, which it did, but we are now suffering from the negligence of its ramifications prior to the invention of all of these modern technological tools. Restart won’t be the best option but rather finding solutions to avert the problems that was accompanied by modern civilization.

Starting modernisation afresh? Nothing will change.
Curiosity will still make humans try out new things until they end up discovering and even producing things that will in turn be a problem to humanity. It is impossible for humans to live without trying to alter their environment. Humans will always be humans.

Humans are social beings and must interact with one another. Most times, while in the course of interaction, conflicts may arise, this has nothing to do with modernisation. It is in the human nature to disagree to agree most times. The only difference will be how conflicts are resolved  due to the fact that there will be no weapons of destruction. But know that humans are natural explorers and will explore till they advance technologically again.

Going back to the days of no internet and other globalization mechanizism you mention still wouldn't change the human race to be better in humanity, before the advent of all this there was still some good amount of wars and conflict infact ignorance persisted more on the minds of the people but now that there is internet the mindset of the people has changed greatly take for example the Gen z generation are just to pre occupied with innovative ideas to better humanity than going to wars I believe if there was to be internet connection ever since we wouldn't have gone into some uneccessary conflict.

If we where to restart civilization,  will we restart the human nature? So far as the human mind is not tampered with, it's only a matter of time before we start thinking of another restart. The only thing that changed between now and early times is technological advancements. Man has always wanted to conquer is fellow man, there has always been good and evil, there has always been war, colonies, nothing much has changed in human character. In fact civilization has abolished some evils like slavery and reduced the influence of wicked and powerful individuals that will commit evil and get away with it.

Restart a thousand times might not be the solution to a better world, it is for us to be the change that we want to see.

You might consider another option, you will have internet in such event, but there will be no secure communications, that means, NO more secrets, all the secrets will be revealed( wikileaks style but worldwide). You could still have video chats but anyone could also watch and listen.

If we are to categorize people based on their beliefs and ideals, we'd have to kill half of population because half of the world is totally insane and indifferent, so the best option is to take away the things making them rabid like NPC/zombies.

Good thing about this, Bitcoin will survive and we could fork to expand it worldwide where we will have a giant network of miners keeping the chain healthy and several layers each doing a different task. A total decentralization of life and power.

A bad idea.

this is impossible a lot of people’s lives are already intertwined with the internet 

there are so many processes that require the use of technology and the internet and cutting it all off would leave such a huge impact to everyone's lives it will be harder to connect with people and it will disrupt a lot of systems

do you think those who have heavily benefited from the internet can suddenly live without it? can you even live without the internet? we depend so much on the use of technology and the internet and it’s not necessarily a bad thing yes over the years it has been heavily taken advantage of and allowed for exploitation and other bad things but let us not forget what the internet has allowed us to do

we are talking to each other because of the internet


The answer is, yes.

wars have long existed even before technology was invented tribes were fighting each other for land and for resources

humans are naturally greedy and prideful wars have and will always exist the only difference is that those wars weren’t recorded because obviously there wasn’t anything or anyone to record it humans were fighting each other before learning how to read and write

Only by removing internet access most of people will start to freak out and there is a very high chance riots and civil unrest would ensue all around the planet. In that sense, such a reset would not be possible without also resetting the way of living or the brains of the population, it would be like taking the population of the planet and teach them how to live in the early 30s, when there was not Satellites, Internet, social media, etc.

If this is a thread which is supposed to be about the rejection of modernity over the simpler times we learnt about in our history classes, I dont think it would be a good idea. After all, humanity is about advancing and trying to reach new boundaries with technologies as far as we can.
We just managed to successfully get energy out a fusion reactor. Why give up on such important advances.?

See the problem factor in the idea is "humans"

We will as a specias endevour to outdo our colleagues and with that everyone will strive
to be better, faster, smarter, richer, stronger and greedier than others which will lead us to
having wars, technology, exploitation of other humans and nature...


absolutely! right off the stick it started with hunter gatherers defending the best forging spots
in order to survive. Just from a quick pick there have been wars and invasions of ancient Egypt,
Assyria, expansion of the Roman empire, Viking Invasions, Expansion of the Mongol empire, The
Crusades, The Napoleonic Wars, Expansion and colonisation by the United Kingdom, Spain, France
and many other European countries in the race to carve up Africa, countless civil wars in probably
every country, WW1, WW2, Vietnam . . .

Slavery!

Will a reset really -reset- humanity, I truly doubt it.

To be honest with you.  Unfortunately I do not think realistically there was or ever will be equality among humans.

Well, there will be no nukes to fire, because they will all be disabled, this restart is to take all the things we take for granted to punish us so that we appreciate what is left for us. If there are no mobile phones, people will use land lines. If there is no internet, people will watch TV.

True, but we will have equality, in fact all the powerful people now, will become the weakest and the weak will become the strongest. Every time humanity shows no change and correction, there has been such restarts many times, maybe God wants us to do it ourselves.  %80 of world doesn't deserve the comfort of technology, it makes them rabid. When they have to milk a cow every morning, they will understand what was lost. More importantly, no more injustice, all will be equal.

is it civilization that's the problem of humanity? Civilization made life simpler for us all, it's just a small number of men out of over 8 billion that decides to get too greedy and selfish wanting to have it all in the lead and that's how we all got to where we are now.

Supposing it's possible for a restart things will still move to this stage, maybe you will want us to be restarting over again each time we get to this stage.

Remove the Internet from our society and every body will go nuts.  Our society is not ready for a world with no Internet.  Particularly people born this century.  Remove the Internet out of their lives and all they know is Kardashian drama and 5 minute life hacks.

Even if we change for the better, it would be temporary only.  One day, some body who is smarter will raise up in influence again and will take the lead again with bad intentions.  This will always happen.  It has always happened along history.  There have always been wars, but maybe on smaller scales because a LONG time ago a lot of humans on this planet did not even know there were other continents.  Or maybe there were larger scale wars before no body has lived to write about.

I truly believe whatever we do, we will get to this point again one day.  It is never going to be better because some how the most influential are almost always the most ill intended.

I like the theory "we are just repeating previous civilizations" maybe billions of years ago we were more modern than now then everything disappeared suddenly because of our own technology. Yes, maybe now the "restart" is when whoever launches the nuke first.

The point is whether we are going to do things differently at the restart civilization.

Human always want to explore and the environment is one tool to do that. Taking a leaf from the bible in the creation story where eve was asked to eat from the tree of knowledge and she herself wanted to know what would be the outcome of it. So humans always want to know outcomes and that is why we are where we are today.

Now, are we going to say that life now with alot of comfort is not better than the medieval times, the times that Thomas Hobbes described in state of nature.

I don't believe that things would have been far different from what we are witnessing now.

What is your opinion about a restart of modern civilization?
Where no internet, no satellites, no military exist? Of course we will still have land lines, TV, but no secret, no banking system, no fighter jets, no drones, no missiles, nothing.

Do you think we will change as a race to become better? Or do you think we can never change and are doomed no matter what?

Did we have so many wars and injustice in the world before the internet?
Are we truly becoming the slaves of our creation? Who will be our John Connor to shut down the skynet, or do you think we will never reach there in reality? What if we could stop skynet before it spreads? Or maybe whatever we do won't make any changes and we should wait for the inevitable to happen?

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So many questions, yet 1 answer, we can only wake up to the truth, but we can never change.

Welcome to "restart".