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That is also a problem. Poor government governance of people's personal identities is something that needs to be considered, because often "criminals" use other people's personal data that they get from hacking government databases or data leak trading sites. This problem is morally detrimental to the people whose data is used because they don't know about the data and suddenly it is used either for crypto projects or registering on gambling sites.

Excessive addiction is difficult to cure and even if they are kicked out or humiliated it will not have any effect on them. Addiction in gambling does look abnormal because this kind of person will do anything to be involved in gambling, whether it is fraudulent or not. Even if the casino enforces strict rules, there are times when fraudsters will continue to find ways to do something to cheat. That happens because the level of intelligence of a person in cheating can be seen from how far they have mastered technology and now there are many people who have the quality to do it.

The darknet is full of documents ready for sale. Packages of documents are sold for any needs and contain a lot of information. But besides this, some people are ready to provide their documents themselves for some temporary and small benefit. For me, this looks like "walking a tightrope," since once you show your identity online, you remain there forever, and the consequences for everyone can look extremely dangerous. Starting with loans taken out in someone else's name and ending with any crimes that may be of great interest to the police. There are many options here. Therefore, it is necessary not to scatter through verification every time you are asked, but to do it in extreme cases, each time protecting even the information provided.

Well, casinos will not just block your account, but I do not see it your way, they might do that for genuine or ingenuine reasons, we've read many cases and some casinos have even resolved some of them by taking responsibility and apologising to the customer. This proves that they can indeed make errors or even be overbearing in their service, that's why we should be making them accountable at times. Also, we have too many unscrupulous customers who are bent to cheat casinos and the bonus purpose example you cited is one out of many. But still, if such customers use the documents of their friends for verification and later abandon the account, this still means nothing. Why is the account blocked if I may ask you from your point?

Yes, if they return to the same casino and avoids the ban that they got, that is just show you that you are addicted to gambling. You don't know how to stop yourself from playing gambling and the intention to have another account in that casino proves to you that you can not let yourself stay away from gambling for a while. Yes, they even use other people's identities to verify the account and take the bonus. But they forget that the casino can know easily because they have a system that can check all of their members and make sure that they don't let the abuser comes.

This just goes to show you how truly addictive and how much of a strong hold that gambling can have on any one person. Think about what you're saying? These folks have probably been kicked out to the curb, they have been shamed and thrown out! Yet they still come back and even risk themselves of being a complete identity fraud. Crazy stuff man.

I have read the article to which you provided through the link, and have got the massage it is passing across which is a delicate message that people should be fully awear to avoid being set up. Because from this strategy a person may put you in trouble by just using your identity for registration of any only stuff that requires kyc. And if such register ACC is found with an ilicite or fraudulent activities the owner of the kyc document will be held responsible with or without your knowledge because your documents has proven to be you. The best way to stay safe is to be careful with who we give our identity documents to avoid being impersonated .

The cheater will still find a way to cheat the casino, even if it is tightened, the cheater will change their ways to keep breaking it. I think what casinos do to resolve their problem is take care of them. if that is indeed the casino case, invite them to come nicely, engage them in the discussion, and ask them what they want so that it continues to interfere with the business. Explain to them why their activities very disruptive to your business. So if they still remains like that, then your next action is call police and and track down where they live.

Casinos will not be able to completely block players, because players have various ways to get past every block from the casino, they can even find ways that other players may not have thought of yet. Casinos can only reduce the abuse that players do in their casinos, but there will always be loopholes to fix, but this problem has always existed



When you have done KYC even just once and on a website that you believe is trustworthy, then the chance of your personal data being leaked is there, and our activity in the online world makes it difficult for us to keep our personal data safe, hackers will use methods to hack and steal people's personal data.

More reasons why government still ban different casino due to common mistakes and act gamblers display. The best way IMO involves government ban. If this act continue I’m sure they’ll go as far as using personal verification for other purpose not just gambling leading to more risk. I’m not surprised seeing such news with the rate gamblers go just to play and win is unpredictable, how can one protect their details should be the important question now, nothing is safe especially when it’s expose to wider audience etc definitely or maybe they’re involved also.

Things like this are proof that in the end, regardless of the existence of KYC or not, everything can still be tricked and in my opinion something like this is bound to happen and may even become a common situation even though this method is clearly against the rules because it could become a criminal act if it continues to be forced to use other people's data.

Not that KYC is a bad thing but on some occasions for some people who really want anonymity or people who are only focused on their desire for profit sometimes can do this way so that they remain unrecognizable and still want to do gambling.
Will this be a disadvantage? technically for casinos it may not be affected but it is a different story for people whose data is used, maybe this is also divided for those who consciously lend their data but what about data that is taken without the person's knowledge of course this will be very detrimental in the end.

It will be difficult to limit them, because there are many ways they can access gambling sites, not only IP, but they can also use fake devices, so the stricter the casino site, the more they will find many ways to still be able to access online sites.

While you might argue it's a bit unfair to the casino that groups are creating arbitrage betting opportunities by taking over accounts that are freely lent to them, these bookmakers are making such huge profits that it's hard to have much sympathy when people are able to figure out a way to take money back from them. As long as there is no fraud taking place, like identity theft or using stolen cards, then good for the people that are allowing this to happen I say - if they were actually placing the bets directly and taking a small commission then it would be completely undetectable. It seems safe in the sense that no KYC documents are likely to be exposed after the account is validated, but I personally would never take the trade because it does still pose risks.

This type of gambling is not new here, and in my ear, even in this forum, there have been some few times I have come across threads on the service board where the OP asks to buy some high-profile gambling account of a specific casino, and they must be verified, which they could also be used for such type of betting. 
 
On the other hand, sometimes the user doesn't just give out their information willingly for it to be used by others to register and gamble with them on a gambling platform, but their identity can be bought from dark webs, where, from one breach of a platform, they submitted it to their information, which has been extracted and sold out.
 
It's very important we just try as much as possible to always protect the limit at which we release our information to online platforms; you don't know which ones are selling them to third parties.

There's always a way and if you are really that wanting or liking to do something then its part of human nature that you will really be trying out to look for some loopholes as long you could be able to push through then this would really be that your main priority. There are really just that those instances that you might fail but doesnt mean that you will be stopping there.
People would be only stopping on the time or moment that they do failed up or seeing having no chances. Restrictions or bans will really be imposed depending on the situation
but we do know that there would really be those people who would really be doing something forcibly.

If you would really be trying out to wander around on social media on which you would really be able to see those individuals who do offer such service on creating some fake id's with having fake information and names on which this is really that something be used by those people who are really that addicted to gambling on which with so much progress we do have into these years on which it will really be  that not hard on trying out to create or fabricate some fake ID's just to make use in to those other purposes on which this isnt really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things well on which if they are really that addicted or really that wanting to deal up with something then they will really be finding up ways and methods on which they can make use of it.

If you are already that becoming a gambling addict then you would really be finding out ways and methods on which you could be able to play neither online or offline by using up those fake id's or information.
You wouldnt really be caring out as long you do able to cater out your addiction on which this is something which is really that typical. One of the main reasons on why gambling is really that profitable
business into its owners due to that common human being behavior on which this is something that cant be easily be avoided.

LOL, this is what often happens even Data managed by my government in Indonesia with many users can be hacked and traded with many identities that can be used for anything. And this is very easy to get now if it is indeed going to be used for gambling purposes.

And some people also consciously sell their IDs for just a few dollars only, and this has happened in almost all crypto and gambling sectors.
But more often than not, crypto projects require KYC and will then get quite expensive coin rewards.

Cheaters and violators are very innovative; they know how the system works and they will do things to bypass that; they will just change the provider and log in from a different device, but they will still be caught because some casinos are using Google coordinates to track your location. Even though you changed your IP and device, you might as well change your location.
So the point is that it's costly and takes too much effort to bypass the security, so its better just to abide by the terms and not cheat.

In an online gambling platform, as long as the gambling platform does not impose a strict KYC where players have to do a video verification, or allow an anonymous gambling then it would be hard for the casino to restrict ban gambler from using their platform since these banned gambler will just register again bypassing the ban through creating a new account.

I do not think that an online casino can ban a player for good since they can be able to access the platform anytime this banned player wanted and I think the casino try to combat this exploit by implementing KYC before a player is able to withdraw any funds.  By that there is no reason for the gambler to use the platform because he won't be able to withdraw any of his winnings due to the restrictions imploemented.

The question you asked is really hard to answer without first thinking deeply about it, or trying to get ideas from other commenters..
But all the same, I guess the only way to permanently ban a gambler is to keep banning his or her account until he or she runs out of options to create new one..
The issue with borrowing other people's identity card to verify their account is one with a very simple solution, and the solution here is the introduction of live verification where the user will hold up that camera to his or her face, and the system will verify that the face matches the one on the submitted id card, if it doesn't, then it simply means that the gambler is trying to game the casino kyc system and such gambler can be banned immediately.

With the above, the issue of creating another account after a ban may be completely limited or eradicated because the gambler will no longer be able to use other people's identity to verify the account.

This is my thought.

Actually most people does that to their friends and family and not not to everyone, because I don't see a possibility for someone to do such thing to somebody who you dong know, or you can't just see somebody for the first time and ask for his id for kyc. Most people who gave out there doceument never know the purpose of why it is collected. If they know they will not give. But my advice in regards to this statement, is that we should be careful when people ask us concerning our sensitive document or any important information relating to us, for security reasons because no body know the plan of the next person.

You sound as if you are working with gambling site to find a permanent way of blocking sturbon customer who find way to bypass the ban and continue, lolz anyway I don't know you can  check the next comentor.

Nowadays, it is not that difficult for people to use other people's identities to do KYC. Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee. But there is nothing we can do about this, because no matter what, these people will continue to use other people's identities just to create new accounts on the casino platform. As long as they have access to new identities for their accounts, they will continue to do so. And I don't think all casinos have the same strict system regarding identity verification, so this loophole will continue to exist.

All this will make it increasingly difficult to pass KYC on various platforms. Of course, this will have a negative impact on ordinary users who register using their own documents. Attackers will always find a way to bypass KYC. I don't know if it is possible to pass KYC with video identity verification using dipfake, but it seems to me that it can be done for a lot of money if desired. What it boils down to is that abuse leads to increased security. In my opinion it's a race that will never end.

Right, they can find ways, anyone can find a way. If I am to find a way I will use my brother or sister's ID. I can easily submit other docs if the casinos request more.

Casinos can let them play until they deposit more funds inside their accounts before busting them. Freeze the funds so that they will not do it again. but then of course this is not the right thing to do. I think I read somewhere this had happened to someone too bad for him he used someone else account but the casino allowed him to withdraw the funds.

A gambler is a gambler and unlike any other addiction, an addicted gambler will always find a way to gamble, even if it requires them to borrow or steal an identity, just to play that sure odds they have or envision would be their big break.
Ignorance sometimes does more harm and causes more pain than knowing the right thing to do and simply just avoiding to do so. Thus, it is better for banned gamblers to find another platform rather than use a wrong or misleading identity on same site they were banned.

Usually, casinos don't ban people without a reason but there are many cases when they ban people to not pay them their winning but when this is the case, no one tries to register for the second time.

Btw that's very common when gambler asks you to register an account with your ID and then they use it to play because their old account got blocked. Of course that's expected from an addict or unfair gambler but the sad part of this is that too many people don't care about their identity. I know lots of people around me who registered an account for their addicted gambler friend and then they had a problem getting employed in public service because of having an account in a casino.
I also know many people who were uploading pictures of their verification documents to get $25 airdrop from Blockchain.com

Today casinos are advanced enough to identify those who were once blocked. Many addicts get blocked because they use offensive words in public chats and very frequently they use offensive words against live casino dealers. They can't change their habit and end up banning with a different account. Some make mistakes and log in via the same IP or the VPN. I'd say that casinos fight very well against abusers.

As a matter of fact vpn may not help  should casino has the sophisticated software with capability to gather the  digital fingerprint of the machines used by the banned customers. In this case to procceed gambling  those users would have to change their devices which might be too costly for them. Should this happened with me I would probably just leave that casino l^{uckily there are many places around to gamble}.

To combat this method of using "fake" identities, the casino can use the requirement for video identification. That is, a ban on withdrawing a deposit without completing this procedure. Although I am an opponent of KYC, I can't imagine any other ways to combat fake "identities".

It is unlikely that "your identity" will be used in completely criminal schemes and in the case of a casino, a surprise may be a sudden ban of your identity on playing in a specific casino. Or on all of them? Because of a joint blacklist.

There is more than one casino in the world, right? So if a gambler is not blacklisted forever, what are the problems with moving to another casino?

And gamblers don't necessarily have to steal "other people's identities" and use them in dubious schemes in casinos, because gamblers can use the accounts of friends or relatives.

I expect that in the future, one of the effective ways to ban any gambler will appear. This will be achievable only with the progress of technology, namely, with the total tokenization and digitalization of everything and everyone. With the introduction of the CBDC and the linking of specific wallets and biometrics, it will be impossible to outwit a casino with a fake identity. Transparent blockchain and AI will allow casino to immediately notice the catch.

The casinos are limited to banning IP devices and the information provided by the player because this is an online tracking system; they have no way to track players who pay people to verify or sell their account or use both IP and device. They take action based on the provided information.
But if the player continues to cheat, the casino can ban him again. Casinos are good at catching cheaters because they know there are players who cheat the system to have an advantage over the house.

It should be obvious that if someone were to make us an offer like that, we must reject it, after all if what that person was doing was legal and they were simply a good gambler, then they could gamble at any of the thousands of casinos that exist and be done with it, if they need another identity to keep doing what they are doing, then it should be clear they are doing something illegal, and when they eventually get caught, it will be you the one to pay the consequences.

Does this pattern not follow the same logic as them getting an account that has been verified already? Or purchasing documents to verify account? The reason I asked this is because I have seen several newbie accounts come to the forum and create thread about them having some verified account in some well known casinos so I was thinking if that’s the reason those accounts are being sold? I know a genuine person won’t just go to a site register an account submit his personal documents and then come to a forum and start selling it without being cautious of who is going to buy the account.

Sadly, casino can detect whether specific is banned from other casino when they submit KYC they are same game provider with all their games. Game provider usually the one who flagged user when they are using multiple account from different casino while the account connected has a violation.

You can’t experience a hassle free gambling life if your identity was already tagged as problematic gambler because you will experience the same on other casino once they are detected the connection.

I'm sure that most copies of documents end up on the black market not through the fault or stupidity of their owner, but because many public and private companies that deal with personal information employ people who don't care about other people's privacy, they just want money. That's why they sell user document databases at the first opportunity. I have noticed that in the last few years the number of cases of illegal use of other people's documents has increased significantly. I think these numbers will be even higher in the future.

If your friends ask your document to verify their account on the casino, you should not give it to them because that is break the casino rules. They can blacklist your document and when you want to playing gambling on the same casino, the casino will not allow you and will detect you have multiple account. You need to protect your document and not giving that to other people because they can abuse your document easily.

Those gamblers can be restricted by the casino by ban or block their access to that casino. Even if they use VPN, casino will know and do something to them. If they use your document to pass the KYC and the casino know about that, you can get limitation from the casino and the worst thing is casino can ban you from their casino.

Casino has their own way to detect VPN when use by players. I think the change of IP can be easily dodge through changing an ISP provider and other tweak which the casino can’t detect.

It’s impossible for an online casino to totally ban a user since there’s no way to physically verified whether a user can borrow someone identity or not. There’s a lot of people living in 3rd world country that is willing to sell their identity for money.

The responsible gambling clause is the only self defense mechanism of casino if ever an addicted user keep dodging the restrictions.

I have seen for myself that an addicted gambler will do anything to continue gambling. Anyway the nowadays people are more addicted to online gambling so you cannot stop the urge even if you want to. Unless gamblers face gambling directly and according to their true identity. In that case they will use the identity of others and may even use the identity of their own family. Even this is impossible to implement in online casinos because there are situations where faces are visible. So it is possible to identify fraudulent gamblers by making accounts visible by identity.

If people aren’t fully aware of the risks and they’re getting paid to do it, some might be tempted to sell their identity just to create online gambling accounts. This could be especially true in countries where the poverty rate is high. For $100 to $200, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone agrees to sell their documents for account verification.

Imagine the pure amount of black market KYC documents... Every single person who gave their documents to an ICO is going to have to worry about identity theft for the rest of their lives...

Getting banned from casinos is the least damaging thing they can do with someone else's KYC.

In fact, there will always be a way to get around the exception, especially if a gambler is addicted, which usually doesn't care, they will do anything just to be able to realize their desires and habits to gamble, you said the right thing OP that now IP exceptions can be very easy to get around and I have also done it where one of the casinos excluded me with an IP scenario but when I tried to use a VPN I could freely enter and register, but of course I don't think I would ever want to lend or give my identity to anyone else including some of my friends even if they gave me some money, it's too dangerous and the impact can be very serious, it is not uncommon for cases of identity abuse to trigger many problems.

It’s definitely illegal, but since it’s not their real identity, many don’t mind as long as they can gamble. In fact, some even buy fake documents from the black market to verify their accounts at casinos. As long as the casino doesn’t require a selfie, they can get away with it easily.

However, casinos have gotten stricter with verification processes lately, and selfies have become one of the most critical requirements. This makes it harder to use stolen IDs, but some people still find workarounds by hiring someone to verify the account for them using their identity. And since money could buy anything, there are plenty of people who’d take the job if the pay is good. It’s shady business, but as long as it works for them, they’ll keep doing it.

If all sorts of ways have been done by the casino to minimize the arrival of illegal gamblers but still make them succeed in entering, then there is no other way and just let them do it. What is clear is that the casino has imposed restrictions according to applicable provisions, regardless of the actions outside the gamblers looking for ways to still be able to escape, then that is no longer the realm of the casino.
With the note:
- The casino is not harmed by gamblers
- Gamblers who are prohibited from playing in their own way because when they do suspicious actions then they already know the risk of losing everything.

If a gambler gets ban because of not following the rules of the casino, there will still be a way for a gambler to come back to Continue with gambling activity. Gambling companies won't be too strick on their customers by following up and not allowing them to use their platform because if they should do that they will be the one to be at lose because they need people who will use their platform, they only need to regulate their platform for gamblers to make use of it in the right way.

The reason why casino ban gamblers who are not following the rules is to make them to do right thing if they have opportunities to get back to the casino again. Reason for ban is not to totally stop gamblers from using the platform again.

It's called "illegal" because people can't stop it or that there are methods to overcome blocking provisions that security made. Personally, I have no idea where it won't be THAT invasive. If that's possible then yeah, various means become possible like making the police involved, monitoring of user actions (yeah, as I said, invasive) and stuff like that. Sadly, gambling on a casino where you're banned isn't THAT big of an offense in the grand scheme of things.

You have already said it. A gambler who is ban from a casino can easily resolve to us VPN but I think such gambler may still be caught if he temporally succeeds in that because he will be flagged. Some gamblers are actually dubious and tries to cheat all the time, not following the casino rules and that is why they get banned.

I don't think there is other ways apart from VPN or going through another registration with a different identify and IP, otherwise the solution is to visit and sign up with a new casino and try to follow the rules to avoid being banned again.

What's the need of using someone else's identity for our personal needs? If one is into some illegal activity, then they might think of it. When a person copes with the terms of service from the gambling platform, there is nothing to worry about, and even if some issue arises, we can seek the support of the team and sort out the problem. Recently, one incident took place in which a gambling platform was developed, and in the name of betting, more illegal funds have been transacted from different addresses. It is not the gamblers, but the people who do illegal businesses try to borrow and use others documents. It is our responsibility to analyse and act if someone requests documents providing benefits.

If all the gamblers and the Casinos reason as one in regards to those who are banned there is no way they would have find another means to get back to the casinos even if they use a different IP or vpn because after registration it will still fall under the requirements of documents verification and there is no method they would use to bypass such way, so if perhaps all the gamblers will be very discipline that no matter the relationship they have with such person they would never share there gambling accounts and also if people will be educated enough to see the danger or crime of selling there private data for money there is no way all this bypassing would have happened, a lot of people are suffering in prison today out of ignorant of giving somebody there identity without knowing there purpose for it.

But methods like this are extremely risky, especially for the document owner. Personally, I would never allow anyone to use my identity to cheat—it’s not worth it, especially if you get caught. Cases like these are all too common, and it’s usually the owner who suffers the consequences while the person using the stolen identity gets away freely. It’s a reckless decision, really, especially when there are plenty of other sites to use instead of forcing ourselves to use one that no longer allows us.

This is exactly why casinos have tightened their KYC requirements. In fact, some even ask for a selfie as part of the verification process. That’s how far KYC approval has evolved to ensure security and fairness.

Definitely there would always be a way out for anything that people derives joy and more especially something that you get money from it, this is why sometimes people tend to use different description about them so they won't be noticed by the casino to avoid being banned. But I know for sure one can't hide under the mask for long and there would be ways they would be caught and their true identity revealed.

Any individual that is given out their details for such purpose is putting their self at risk because if anything happens on the process, it's not the person that used their details that will be held accountable for it but rather they will account for it. Some persons get blind by rewards and profit but they don't look at the risk of what they are about to do. If casino bands their customer for a valid reason, then the person should try a different casino.

Any casino firm that bans its users because of any suspicious act found on them should have in mind that the same banned user will find ways to register with them with any other identity to continue from where they stopped.

Nowadays, it is not easy to ban someone totally from what their interest are all the time, without having them back some other ways. They will borrow or pay for another person's identity, as the case may be so that they can beat the ban level against them. It's those whose identity will be used in that, is who will bear the cause of their action for letting their identity out for money or because of trust they have for the person.

          -     It is true and correct what you say op, where the reputed casinos here in the crypto space do not just threaten their users if they do not see bad activity on their platform. Because they are also doing some kind of investigation.

Then do not forget that there are other casino platforms here in the crypto industry that are also exploitative, where when they see that their players are going to withdraw a large amount because of the size of the winnings, they suddenly lower the gambler's account without any resistance.

Of course the casinos can not just decided to ban it user without being faulted for violations.
It could be of cheats or the user not being able to completely process a given procedure after several warnings that the duration given as a grace has limitedly exhausted.
So the penalty has to be served either by ban or temporarily restricted.

I think some casinos permits the revalidation of users to creat another account with their credentials if their formal account was banned or restricted but may void the users profile to their sites depending on the highly offense committed.

But that apart, I agree with you to be careful with how we exposes our documents because it could be used for some sorts of events that might implicate us on something we are innocent of.

We are talking about online gambling, right?

Casinos mostly ban users abusing bonus system since we don't have anything to do , like banned for misconduct and yeah they can simply borrow the identity of others for a certain price. Those can be stolen identity or simple people are ready to do that like for a price of 50 or 100 dollars which shows that they are unaware of privacy and identity theft.

Casinos should implement strict KYC rules to prevent this like live video verification from time to time but this only affect the casino because not everyone will be ready to verification once in a while.

For online yes, there could be a way to bypass this restrictions, like what you have said, they can uses other person's identification and then go and play again. But this loophole can be a pros or cons for casino themselves.

They can uses it as a weapon for players, like if they suspect that something is not right with this KYC, then they can suspend the user itself. So it's up to the users to proved that he is the person that he is saying and in the documents itself. Or casinos are right about their hutch that this users are not telling the truth and that they just exploited that loophole that everyone knows.

What an antithetic situation! No one wants to pass KYC still there are those that are ready to sell their information and data for the use of others in their gambling in exchange for some bulks.  I think people that sell out their information for strangers use do so out of proper ignorance of the underlying consequences the besiege such action.

However, it is not in every situation where casinos suspect some funny gambling behaviours of a gamblers leading to their ban that is truly a reflection of their suspicion. The implication of this act of ban carried out by casinos on users basically (out of suspicion) can lead to some users being wrongly accused and victimized.

Casinosites generally do not require KYC, but in some cases KYC is required even though the information is confidential. If a gambler wants to withdraw a large amount of money, his affairs may be scrutinized, this will usually depend on the team management of the casino sites.
 And there are many people who try to steal other people's accounts and if they want to withdraw money from that person's account then KYC may be needed because it is to verify that the right person is withdrawing the money properly. Generally, I think it is normal to do KYC verification when withdrawing large amounts of money from casino sites.

I guess we are talking about various scammers here... I think it's easy to find a way around some bans, but is it worth the risk for something like that? So I guess the scammers do it to get some money out somehow, and if they ever get caught in the end and the casino confiscates the remaining money, maybe they are in profit and want to keep doing the same thing over and over again.

I don't think there is any way a casino can ban someone forever... it's too easy to change internet provider, use a VPN, borrow/buy someone's documents, change phone number, etc. But again the question arises why do it and go through all that?

Until recently, there were groups on Facebook where many people traded gambling accounts that had KYC, or they sold with a high level for a little money or it could be that they could no longer afford to gamble... Another reason may make sense where they want to gamble not using their real identity so they buy from others.

This practice still exists today... Although the casino applies many rules in it, there are still many loopholes that can be tricked by other gamblers, so it will not be surprising if other people's identities are used or sold for a little money.

The answer to the question is a capital "NO", because though a casino can directly ban an individual from gambling, both online and physical, one thing certain herr is that they can never indirectly ban him/her from gambling, irrespective of whatever measures they take. So in such scenario, the best approach to resolving ban evasion is for a casino to implement the use of strong A.I which monitors all gambling activities and group those likely to have a similar consistent gambling pattern over time. As that's the only way to discover those who may have by passed a ban evasion to still gambling on the same casino while using other people's KYC details.

Left for the casinos alone, they don't care about KYC but your money, since government regulations are involved, KYC becomes the only way for casinos to keep their gamblers identity incase government asks for it to avoid them being shutdown by the government if they don't comply. A gambler that knows KYC is mandatory will want to use others documents to bypass his way into gambling. However, it's not only in gambling that using someone's identity to gain access to somewhere happens but it happens in many scenarios. Someone very close to you might have access to your documents and use it for his KYC what would you do about that when you are not aware. At least people that sell their documents can understand when they shoot themselves on their own foot but what about those that are not aware of it.

I wont stop saying, that gambler and especially addicted gambler (like alcoholics) are very creative people. They always find a way to either gamble or to find money for gambling, even though they are banned in casinos, in loans, have problems and so on. I believe that it is human nature. That if a person took a strong decision to do something, nothing will stop him. Using fake or someone else ID, vpn is only hip of the iceberg, as those bastards always find a way to play.

I wonder why someone will sale their identity to someone else, whether it's for financial gains or as a help, it doesn't make any sense, they should first wonder why the receiver wouldn't use their own identities. Gambling platforms have been tagged by many, including governments as a means of money laundering, so people who sale or give their accounts to others needs to consider the magnitude of risks that they're putting themselves into. Anything that involves your KYC is your property in the eyes of the law, if any crime is committed with it, that means that you'll be held responsible.

Unfortunately, there are many casinos that have banned people without valid reasons and people spend many months complaining on forums and casino review sites so that their problems can be resolved. But it is useless and the owners of these scam casinos are never punished. Regarding this issue of KYC and some people taking the risk of buying or selling identities, honestly in my opinion it is something that is not worth it. Because when casinos see that the person has won a lot of money, they ask for additional documents such as a selfie holding the ID, so it is useless and it is not worth buying ID to do KYC at some casino.

As you have already mentioned because it's very hard for a gambling site to have a thorough and a total control over the gamblers who are gambling in their site, what I can only say is that they should be more strict in checking some of the verifications and if possible they should implement a live video kyc to detects whether it's the real owner of the kyc that is in control of the gambling site. Then again, they should always check the kyc origin or residence and also detects the IP and if the IP doesn't correlate with the country of signup or login they should restrict such account for good.

Then about Identity management; To me it is very risky to keep selling one personal details or identification methods to other people because this is the most deadliest thing they are doing because if there are any money laundry that arises within the casino and through the identification someone that sold of his identity then they would have to track down the person who happens to sell of his documents to a stranger.

Wait, if the casino already ban that gambler's account, it means he will not able to gamble in that casino again because he still live in the same place. Not many casinos allow multiple accounts usage, that's why having borrowed/purchased identity won't help.

It's more make sense if they gamble on another casino, there are so many casinos available.

I don't think that there are other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good. The best a casino can do is to beef up their security to prevent hackers. Identitfy theft or even willingly giving up one's identity for a fee would always continue. The but is going to bear the consequences for this, it is not the casino but the accomplice. The people who do this are people with low income who need a little extra to survive they are the easiest victims of this. Someone who is in the middle class or at least isn't living in poverty won't risk it because their level of need has gone past above food, clothing, or shelter.

If they can able to provide KYC to reputable casino then continue if they want to gamble since with this this will never give them any issues.

But if they can't afford to do KYC then just leave it since there's nothing gonna happen and they cannot change what current implementation has been done. But in the case that they are been restricted in the casino due to some regulation happened maybe best for anyone to follow what has been implemented by the casino since bypassing or doing any forms of cheating may result to something that they don't want to encounter. So gamble with clean hands and don't cheat anything just to continue or try to take advantage on something.

This is why we should be careful of where we pass our personal information to nowhere we do kyc verification.. we should remember that ones your data gets online, it is there and cannot be removed.. it's obvious that these people are buying peoples kyc information from the dark web and using it to sign up on casino. I can't imagine what would happen if they end up committing a big crime on that accounts and creating a problem for the real owners of the data they had used to pass through kyc. We should just avoid passing kyc unnecessarily so it don't end up getting into the wrong hands..

Well, I believe it would be easy to catch out, knowing that it could easily be a standout and that there's a reason the people are banned. It's just how people are, and they find ways to make it work if they are forbidden.

It's complex, and maybe more behavioral tactics are needed to see the possibility of catching them again.

This is not actually about KYC and from the article, those guys do not care about privacy but they are after profits. What I understand from the article is that they use others documents to probably create a new account in order to enjoy the welcome bonus that most of gambling platforms offer new users. I pity people that give out their documents to them for peanut amount.

The victims obviously have no idea of what might come up in the future. I see no reason for handling out your personal identification documents to anyone irrespective of what they are using it for. The meager amount offered doesn't worth the consequences ahead. I think it's high time people start learning about privacy protection.

I think gambling system have those loopholes on purpose. If they close all of them, have strict customer service policy, force to pass KYC whenever they think gambler made a strange move or force to do it on registration stage, no one would gamble. Casinos must stay friendly or have such image. A lot of people go there only because they have heard how to cheat, heard someone won easily, heard stories of success, saw a win strategy. I think casinos close their eyes of several things and rule violations, just to make customers return.

If there’s a will, there’s a way....that’s the gambler’s mindset. But let’s not ignore the risks here. Using someone else’s identity puts the account owner in serious danger. What if the gambler uses the account for money laundering? The registered owner could end up in big trouble for breaking the law.

This method isn’t worth it, and anyone getting paid to do this should think long and hard. The risks are massive, and the small reward isn’t worth the chance of landing in jail.

Gamblers will found a way to keep playing gambling without we can think how they can do that. Casino can still block them by always checking all of their members and find the suspicious thing that their members doing. Maybe the casino can know by identifying the pattern that those gamblers doing so they can ask for more verification to make sure that their members are the same person with their documents. VPN can help gamblers to keep playing gambling on the same casino but if the casino strictly to that, they will know but we don't know how the casino can find the members who break their rules.

Yes of course, there are very many services offering Proxy KYC services, and they can be found in forums, Facebook groups and marketed on illegitimate sites. These proxy KYC is passed through borrowed identities and fake ones too. People leasing their identities for financial gains should be more aware that they are putting themselves in harms way if those that purchased their identities commit offenses.

Fake identities are frequently being detected recently and those that use them most times get their accounts blocked and funds forfeited. I also believe that reasons why most people opt for proxy KYC services is because most of them gamble from restricted countries and cannot provide their identities. There are always lots of loopholes and online casinos can only try, but people always tend to get their way most of the time.

Yeah, this happens. In case some gamblers are curious, check Telegram in gamblers groups and you will find a lot of people trying to buy an account from popular online casinos or sports bookies up to the lowest of them.
The first time I saw this I was quite shocked that someone would really give up their accounts that were already KYC verified. Yes, we are jeopardizing our profile by doing this, and in case the account was used for money laundering then we should not be surprised if suddenly the authorities are in our doorstep knocking on our doors.
One reason that I could only surmise is the financial problem of most people so they will not even hesitate to sell it to others. Another reason is that it's a syndicate group stealing profiles and selling those accounts after creation with a different identification.

Controlling this issue is the most challenging in online gambling. Currently, KYC cannot prevent minors from gambling. Taking some steps can help the casino ban or restrict a gambler for the good of the casino.
1. Using information from various national identity cards for KYC.
2. Completing KYC using face verification or fingerprint matching the national identity card.
3. Finger or face verification every time you log in. It must match the information used during KYC.
4. A file can be opened for gamblers of all sites or casinos. Where all the gambling information of each gambler will be there, how many shots a gambler has taken in gambling, how much money he has lost, how much he has received and how trustworthy he is. A file can be opened for inter-gamblers with this information. If a gambler is involved in a scam, all casinos or gambling sites will know that information.

Gamblers can be controlled by taking some more steps and can be banned or restricted from gambling by a person.

It is becoming difficult to keep personal information secret. Recently, there was leak of the details of civil servants in my country. Almost all their personal and financial information they submitted to the government for employee verification were in public domain. This information can be used by anybody for KYC.

If someone doesn't want to pass KYC with his personal information, then he should search for non-KYC casinos or quit gambling. Using another person's details is against the Tos of most casinos and is also a criminal offense. The casino has the right to sanction the account based on their rules.     

Casinos can’t do anything at present; these cheaters will always have the way to exploit the casinos. They have contracts that provide them fake identities and have premium proxies or VPNs to change locations. The only possible way for the casino is to do a video call verification, but I am sure many have found a way of bypassing it also. If a casino bans you, then go for others; why to run behind that old casino? I still don’t get it.

The forum here is full of scam accusations where gambling platforms have refused to pay out winnings. In 99% of cases, it turns out that someone tried to cheat the casino and, for example, played from banned countries with a VPN, used multiaccounting or carried out other practices excluded in the Terms of Use.

The casino therefore already has a very good lever: KYC and further identity checks when paying out winnings. Although it certainly costs them a lot in terms of support in such cases, it is still better than incurring penalties if they were to make payouts to blocked countries.

It would be possible to carry out the incoming identity checks during registration, but we all know how the crypto community feels about such things. This would put off a lot of customers in advance, even those who have nothing bad in mind.

yeah, there is a thousand ways to conceal you real identity nowadays, If I am not mistaken there is some thread here in the forum that discusses about why people sell their gambling accounts. Now I know maybe some people are getting banned or they just don't want to use their real identities to play on that site. I mean the are many of possibility here.

Casino has their own rule and some casino are strict and some are dont. If we read their TOS carefully I believe its going to be fine and there is no reason casino banned us.

There are lots of services who sell such data. The last time i saw about 10 identify packs for $1. Name, surname, birthdate, passport, some other data.
The employees from government organizations, banks, mobile operators, etc sell it for someone in darknet and anyone can buy it.
Add e-sim or virtual number and you are ready to register again and again.

If the casino has no KYC during the registration you can cheat casino this way for some time. Of course, they will ban you, but new account costs less than $1, 1 win is enough for 10-20 accounts.

But i think that it can`t become a serious problem for the owner of such data. He always can prove that his data was used by someone else.

If it is online gambling it is difficult to stop people who have been restricted in their gambling because they will do anything to be able to gamble, unless gambling face to face with the gamblers directly and in accordance with their real identity then those who have been restricted will not be able to gamble or borrow other people's identities, but it seems impossible for casinos online to implement something like this because in addition to threatening player security, user identities are also unsafe because their faces are visible. But currently that is the only way to eradicate gamblers who cheat.

This is a typical example of a thread where no one reads the source behind it.

And look that the article is short, eh? Four short paragraphs.

If someone had read it (apart from the OP) they would see that it's not about addicts, it's more about an organized group that the bookies have banned from playing more (which happens many times to winning bettors in sports betting) and have found a way to bypass the ban to keep making money.

Banning a gambler now doesn’t stop them from gambling with the current system of casino. They will either use other person’s account to play, like you stated. or can use others person’s information to create an account. So banning them doesn’t stop them from gambling.
Here’s what I think could be best to do if they want to ban a gambler for life. They need to upgrade there system in a way that anyone who wants to gamble will be requested of their Face ID to log in to their account. This way they’ll know who’s behind the account. Then they can dictate a gambler who’s been ban

➥ First, no one can stop those people as long as gambling is done online. Even if every login session must be followed by facial verification, they can still get around it.

➥ Second, why are you asking that, are you one of the online casino owners? if not, then it is none of your business to ask that, let it be the business of the online casino owners.

If you really understand that there is actually no Casino that wants to ban gamblers because they create sites for profit issues not as a community. But the problem is they need to make some policies regarding underage gamblers so that KYC is enforced so as not to get into trouble with the law. But what happens is the opposite, the issue of KYC identity can always be manipulated and now they are much smarter than their parents so that teenagers are involved in gambling.

Casinos will never completely ban gamblers because this is a business for them and what needs to be reviewed is how the gamblers themselves can control and parents also need to control their children so that they do not get involved in irresponsible gambling.

A gambler will definitely do anything to keep playing and regardless of all the exceptions and prohibitions that have been given by gambling sites, paying money and borrowing other people identities will always be the main way for those who want to gamble without having to use their own data.
Someone will not think twice, they will definitely give it because there is reward of money, especially for those who really need it and it will be difficult for gambling sites to really handle all problems like this, impossible about restrictions forever because there are many ways that gamblers can do.

I think the gambling system has many loopholes. And I guess it won't really be made perfect.

The age limit, for example, something that should be implemented very strictly, can easily be surpassed by minor gamblers. A single click of the "I confirm that I'm aged 18 blah blah blah" and you're good to go.

As regards identity borrowing, there are in fact services offering KYC to those who can't pass it because of certain restrictions. It's not just available to casino users but also to exchange users and other platforms.

No one want to pass kyc with there own personal documents that's why many re try to use another person documents by browsing or bought from black market. there is no problem still a casino site thik it as subspecies. They run into trouble when a casino site wants to freeze funds and verify documents when someone keeps depositing and withdrawing huge amounts of money. If the documents cannot be fully verified then they are restricted

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?